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Adrian Peterson's turn to get the boot from the NFL (1 Viewer)
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otello
Footballguy
Good point. I also think that if they hope to continue to attract women fans, they can't afford to be viewed as treating these issues as less than priority #1.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Doubt it. This particular issue is a fairly simple one, and ultimately shouldn't hurt the NFL. Goodell screwed up in handling this, but the overall point is that fans now want the NFL to give a #### and punish these guys. They are and will continue to do so.
Now, the long-term effects of Thursday Night games, further market oversaturation, long-term player health and the sport being one many reasonable parents would never allow their children to play...those should be a much bigger problem for the NFL.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Right now getting off is the least of Petersons worries. AP has already been convicted in the court of public opinion, and convicted by his peers on all the pre-games shows. I have never seen so many ex-players bash a player like they did AP yesterday. For the NFL and AP this could not have come out at a worse time. The ex-players on the pregames were all imploring the NFL and Goodell to take the harshest stand possible against Peterson including removing him from the league.
timschochet
Footballguy
as we have seen over and over, it is very difficult to convict celebrities of crimes. Not only do the hire the very best lawyers, juries more often than not are eager to give them the benefit of the doubt.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
short term no, but long term i think people will begin to change there viewing and appetite for other things, we are just on the cusp of this changing.
Just my thought...
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timschochet
Footballguy
Da Guru is right. As bad as what Peterson did, if the Rice video had never happened the situation would be entirely different. That video has changed everything; it's like 9/11 for the NFL.
Fennis
Footballguy
minus the airplanes crashing in to the buildings by Islamic terrorists and the thousands of innocent people dying and the wars that followed. Other than that its exactly like 9/11.
culdeus
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
You guys are eager to jump on every remark and take it to the most literal extreme. All I meant is that, like 9/11, the Rice video changed the culture of the NFL, and we will see this specifically in terms of how they handle bad behavior from now on. I used 9/11 because there are very few clear cut examples of single incidents which create a before and after dividing line, not because of the magnitude of events which aren't in any way comparable.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Yes..and the Breast Cancer Foundation will get their 5% of the scraps that is left over from all the Pink NFL Gear sales. There is a lot of fingers in that pie.
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bigbottom
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IvanKaramazov
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JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
back this week (along with a homophobic special teams coach). Sweet franchise in the city I live in...
The following statement is from Vikings Owners Zygi Wilf and Mark Wilf:
Today’s decision was made after significant thought, discussion and consideration. As evidenced by our decision to deactivate Adrian from yesterday’s game, this is clearly a very important issue. On Friday, we felt it was in the best interests of the organization to step back, evaluate the situation, and not rush to judgment given the seriousness of this matter. At that time, we made the decision that we felt was best for the Vikings and all parties involved.
To be clear, we take very seriously any matter that involves the welfare of a child. At this time, however, we believe this is a matter of due process and we should allow the legal system to proceed so we can come to the most effective conclusions and then determine the appropriate course of action. This is a difficult path to navigate, and our focus is on doing the right thing. Currently we believe we are at a juncture where the most appropriate next step is to allow the judicial process to move forward.
We will continue to monitor the situation closely and support Adrian’s fulfillment of his legal responsibilities throughout this process.
The following statement is from Vikings Owners Zygi Wilf and Mark Wilf:
Today’s decision was made after significant thought, discussion and consideration. As evidenced by our decision to deactivate Adrian from yesterday’s game, this is clearly a very important issue. On Friday, we felt it was in the best interests of the organization to step back, evaluate the situation, and not rush to judgment given the seriousness of this matter. At that time, we made the decision that we felt was best for the Vikings and all parties involved.
To be clear, we take very seriously any matter that involves the welfare of a child. At this time, however, we believe this is a matter of due process and we should allow the legal system to proceed so we can come to the most effective conclusions and then determine the appropriate course of action. This is a difficult path to navigate, and our focus is on doing the right thing. Currently we believe we are at a juncture where the most appropriate next step is to allow the judicial process to move forward.
We will continue to monitor the situation closely and support Adrian’s fulfillment of his legal responsibilities throughout this process.
SIDA!
Footballguy
I don't think a lot of people can envision themselves punching their wife in the face with a left hook. I think many, many parents (myself included) have found themselves in a situation where their anger and frustration got the best of them and resulted in them taking the punishment with their kids too far. Now, I never broke skin or anything like that, but I know that I went to a place that I wasn't comfortable with once I had calmed down.
I also know that many women can probably say the same and many women can probably recall a time when they felt their husband/father of their child went too far in punishing their child. And they also know that despite their husband going too far in that instance or on occasion that he loves and cares about his children and family.
At the end of the day, I am not standing up for Peterson. I think he crossed the line. But, I don't think the line he crossed is the same as punching your wife in the face. Some people say, but it is a child, it is worse. I don't think that that is the case and I respect the opinion of those who disagree. My feeling is that Peterson needs less in the form of punishment and more in the form of education/counseling.
Feel free to crucify me.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Oooh boy. The proverbial #### is going to hit the fan.Announced he's playing this weekend vs New Orleans
gianmarco
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
couldnt resist could ya?
timschochet
Footballguy
who announced this please?Announced he's playing this weekend vs New Orleans
DanfromBoston
Footballguy
AP is playing next week: The Vikings. I guess he's not done yet.
timschochet
Footballguy
EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. — The Minnesota Vikings are reinstating Adrian Peterson this week after he was charged with child abuse and say he will play on Sunday against the New Orleans Saints.
Vikings owners Zygi and Mark Wilf made the announcement Monday, one day Peterson was benched during a 30-7 loss to the New England Patriots after he was charged for striking his 4-year-old son with a tree branch this summer.
The Vikings say they take the issue very seriously and have given it considerable thought. But they also say they want the legal process to take its course before making any final decisions.
Peterson’s lawyer says the star player was just disciplining his child and did not mean to cause harm.
Here is the Vikings statement:
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Today’s decision was made after significant thought, discussion and consideration. As evidenced by our decision to deactivate Adrian from yesterday’s game, this is clearly a very important issue. On Friday, we felt it was in the best interests of the organization to step back, evaluate the situation, and not rush to judgment given the seriousness of this matter. At that time, we made the decision that we felt was best for the Vikings and all parties involved.
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To be clear, we take very seriously any matter that involves the welfare of a child. At this time, however, we believe this is a matter of due process and we should allow the legal system to proceed so we can come to the most effective conclusions and then determine the appropriate course of action. This is a difficult path to navigate, and our focus is on doing the right thing. Currently we believe we are at a juncture where the most appropriate next step is to allow the judicial process to move forward.
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We will continue to monitor the situation closely and support Adrian’s fulfillment of his legal responsibilities throughout this process.
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Vikings owners Zygi and Mark Wilf made the announcement Monday, one day Peterson was benched during a 30-7 loss to the New England Patriots after he was charged for striking his 4-year-old son with a tree branch this summer.
The Vikings say they take the issue very seriously and have given it considerable thought. But they also say they want the legal process to take its course before making any final decisions.
Peterson’s lawyer says the star player was just disciplining his child and did not mean to cause harm.
Here is the Vikings statement:
‘
Today’s decision was made after significant thought, discussion and consideration. As evidenced by our decision to deactivate Adrian from yesterday’s game, this is clearly a very important issue. On Friday, we felt it was in the best interests of the organization to step back, evaluate the situation, and not rush to judgment given the seriousness of this matter. At that time, we made the decision that we felt was best for the Vikings and all parties involved.
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To be clear, we take very seriously any matter that involves the welfare of a child. At this time, however, we believe this is a matter of due process and we should allow the legal system to proceed so we can come to the most effective conclusions and then determine the appropriate course of action. This is a difficult path to navigate, and our focus is on doing the right thing. Currently we believe we are at a juncture where the most appropriate next step is to allow the judicial process to move forward.
’
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We will continue to monitor the situation closely and support Adrian’s fulfillment of his legal responsibilities throughout this process.
’
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Goodell could step in here and make a statement. With all that has transpired the last couple of weeks and ex-players calling for him to suspend Peterson that would not be surprising.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
I'm starting to think 44M/year is not enough for commish of NFL
Ookie Pringle
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
bigbottom
Footballguy
I think there are a lot of people who share your opinion. But I'd ask the following:
1) Have you seen the photos of the injury?
2) Do you realize that those were taken a full week after the incident? If they look that bad at that point, imagine how bad it looked before a week's worth of healing.
3) Did you know that the photos don't depict the worst of the injuries, namely the laceration on the front of the four-year-olds thigh, and the injury to his genitalia?
4) Did you know that this wasn't a couple strikes, but many of them? AP himself estimates 10-15, but says he didn't keep count.
5) Did you know that the boy's body still bore marks from prior physical punishment?
6) Have you imagined what a video of this "punishment" would look like? A father stripping down his four-year-old and lashing him 10, 15 or more times, causing lacerations and drawing blood, bruises across the back and cuts on his butt, legs, hands and genitals, so bad that the welts and scabs would still be visible a week later. I've imagined what that video would look like, and I'd be willing to bet it is absolutely horrifying.
Is it worse than punching your wife? I don't know, both things are pretty darn heinous.
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
Cool start to the week, Vikings... Zygi Wilf, the racketeer, reinstates Mike Priefer, the homophobe, and Adrian Peterson, the child abuser.
Stinger Ray
Footballguy
bigbottom
Footballguy
And this is all the undisputed stuff. It doesn't even take into account the boy's statement that AP threatened to hit him in the face, stuffed leaves in his mouth, "has lots of belts" and has a "whooping room." Even if you don't consider that stuff, it still seems pretty horrible, and at least in the same neighborhood as punching an adult female.
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Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
The only way I see Goodell stepping in here to prevent AP from playing this weekend is if this was already planned out by him and the Vikings.
Punishment that goes beyond what many would consider normal punishment, is still not as bad as cold cocking your wife in an elevator, and then dragging her out.
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Guest
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It's going to be interesting to see what Goodell does.
jonessed
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Boy what a dilemma for Goodell to be in this time. If he moves to suspend Peterson, people will say that he only did it to try to restore his image after Rice. If he lets the Vikings reinstate Peterson without comment, people will say he's weak. And let's not forget that Goodell suspended Big Ben prior to Ben being charged with a crime (and as it turns out, he never was.)
RhymesMcJuice
Footballguy
Goodell needs to stop suspending players before the legal process is finished. Teams are welcome to do whatever they want but the league should stay out of it until someone is found guilty.
timschochet
Footballguy
Here's what I would say, if I were Goodell:
"Adrian Peterson has not been found guilty of any crime. But we have his admission that he beat the child, we have the testimony of the child, and we have these photographs, which are absolutely sickening. So I am overriding the Vikings and suspending Adrian Peterson indefinitely. When and if he has either been found not guilty or served his sentence, then I will reinstate him. Not before then."
"Adrian Peterson has not been found guilty of any crime. But we have his admission that he beat the child, we have the testimony of the child, and we have these photographs, which are absolutely sickening. So I am overriding the Vikings and suspending Adrian Peterson indefinitely. When and if he has either been found not guilty or served his sentence, then I will reinstate him. Not before then."
timschochet
Footballguy
Why not? The NFL is not a court of law. If public opinion is outraged by what they perceive to have been Peterson's behavior, why shouldn't the NFL step in?
timschochet
Footballguy
Has anyone here posted Peterson's religious statement on this? I don't want to get attacked for doing so if somebody already has...
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
That is what Tom Jackson said he should do and I agree. The NFL is in a crisis type moment in terms of it`s image.
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