Adrian Peterson's turn to get the boot from the NFL (1 Viewer)

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Wait. .. there's another kid?

I don't even think he knows how many kids he has.

Not from a morality standpoint but from a business one, these guys just have no sense whatsoever. Antonio Cromarte has 12 kids by eight different women, three of the kids are about the same age. So many of these guys end up going broke two or three years after football, mostly because of all these ####### kids they have on the payroll. Stupid.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/shutdown-corner/years-epic-irresponsibility-antonio-cromartie-figures-life-level-041622621.htmlI remember reading this. Good for him trying to sort out all the responsibility before its too late.

I also think I read he is now snipped.

Good story, thanks for posting.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

Just got done putting my boys to bed. I was a little more patient with them tonight, held them a little closer, and told them I loved them a few extra times.

did you cut back on the switch?

Well, it is only Monday.

 

[SIDA!]

he just soaked the walls again and again.

ROLLING. Nice homage to AR!

 

[Guest]

Can't suspend him. He needs that money to pay child support. Have any of AD's sponsors chimed in?

 

[dparker713]

In many countries Adran Peterson would be headed for jail.

Fewer than the countries in which they wouldn't.

 

[Sammy3469]

So a guy quoting the bible as justification for beating his kids has multiple 4 year old sons by multiple women?

 

[Christo]

So a guy quoting the bible as justification for beating his kids has multiple 4 year old sons by multiple women?

No

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

So a guy quoting the bible as justification for beating his kids has multiple 4 year old sons by multiple women?

No

Yesno

 

[Sammy3469]

So a guy quoting the bible as justification for beating his kids has multiple 4 year old sons by multiple women?

No

Yesno

Maybeso?

 

[bosoxs45]

Vikings brass probably wishing they'd waited another 24 hours before announcing their decision.

Cancel the plans for a boat party.

 

[93_Confirmed]

Wait. .. there's another kid?

I don't even think he knows how many kids he has.

Last I heard it's 7 kids by 4 women. Not sure if that includes the son who passed away last year from child abuse (baby mamma's boyfriend).

 

[93_Confirmed]

Wait. .. there's another kid?

I don't even think he knows how many kids he has.

Last I heard it's 7 kids by 4 women. Not sure if that includes the son who passed away last year from child abuse (baby mamma's boyfriend).

Peterson didn't make the list but this is interesting nonetheless.

Athletes with the most kids by the most women

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/06/athletes-with-the-most-children-by-the-most-women/

 

[Guest]

So a guy quoting the bible as justification for beating his kids has multiple 4 year old sons by multiple women?

No

Yesno

Maybeso?

The bible quoting was about how he is being judged.

ETA: It looked like one of those Bible verse-a-day calendars. And the guy can't use a highlighter.

 

[timschochet]

1979 Sweden

1983 Finland

1987 Norway

1989 Austria

1994 Cyprus

1997 Denmark

1998 Latvia

1999 Croatia

2000 Israel

2000 Germany

2000 Bulgaria

2003 Iceland

2004 Romania

2004 Ukraine

2005 Hungary

2006 Greece

2007 Netherlands

2007 New Zealand

2007 Portugal

2007 Uruguay

2007 Venezuela

2007 Chile

2007 Spain

These are the countries that have outlawed corporal punishment, and the year they did it. In these countries, there is no debate about whether such treatment is "discipline" or abuse. It's all abuse, and it's illegal. Why don't we just make it illegal here?

Many countries have immigration laws different than ours. Based on this logic we should implement those laws too.

Nicely done. You got me. I could answer in various ways, but I won't. You win this one.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I'm still amazed that

1. The Vikings are actually going to let him play this Sunday

2. Thus far, the NFL has not taken any action

I don't understand what the heck they're thinking about. Public image is everything to the NFL. This is TERRIBLE public image for the NFL.

Tim, you're smarter than this. Can we please recognize that there's some nuance to these issues?

Does not make what AP did right. It disgusts me.

However, if you think that even abusive discipline of a parent equates to punching your wife out with a left hook, that's ridiculous. This is not a clear black and white issue. There is a large swarth of the culture for whom this is understandable, possibly even acceptable.

If anything, this can hopefully bring about a constructive dialogue so kids don't end up being beat like this (or at all).

Don't get the point of debating if one is worse than the other. No grown man should do either of these things.

If you are saying that a large % of our culture thinks it's acceptable to be physical with your child as punishment, I would agree with that (unfortunately). If you are saying that a large portion thinks that what AP did specifically is acceptable, that would make me very sad indeed.

 

[KarmaPolice]

http://khou.mlnwap.com/article.html#!/52370/3afdfe95ed122262c4fbd9dc632fce52

HOUSTON -- Photos and text messages obtained by the I-Team reveal another incident in which Adrian Peterson is accused of injuring another son while disciplining the boy.

The four-year-old is by a different mother than the alleged victim in the Montgomery County case, in which Peterson is charged with felony injury to a child. In that case, Peterson admits to repeatedly striking the boy with a tree branch or "switch," but has maintained he did not intend to harm the child, and was using his judgment as a parent to discipline his son.

The latest incident allegedly occurred last June, while the boy, who lives out of state, was visiting Peterson at his gated home in Spring. A photo, allegedly texted by Peterson to the boy's mother, shows a head wound to the boy covered by two bandages. Other photos, allegedly taken weeks later, reveal a scar over his right eye.

The text messages also describe an exchange about what happened. They contain numerous misspellings and shorthand:

Mother: "What happened to his head?"

Peterson: "Hit his head on the Carseat."

Mother: "How does that happen, he got a whoopin in the car."

Peterson: "Yep."

Mother: "Why?"

Peterson: "I felt so bad. But he did it his self."

The text messages go on to show Peterson saying he was disciplining his son for cussing to a sibling.

"It's absolutely criminal," said Randy Burton, a former chief prosecutor of family crimes in Harris County, and founder of the advocacy group Justice for Children.

"You break the skin, you have bleeding, much less permanent scars, that is a crime," Burton said.

But no charges were ever filed. Sources confirm the mother filed a report with Child Protective Services, but the outcome of any CPS investigation is unclear.

So is the method of the delivering the wound, according to the text messages.

Mother: "What did you hit him with?"

Peter never directly answered, but later replied: "Be still n take ya whooping he would have saved the scare (scar). He aight (all right)"

"This is very damaging information," Burton said.

Damaging, Burton said, because prosecutors in Montgomery County can use it as evidence in the felony case against Peterson.

"To prove intent, that it was not an accident, and to show that it was a course of conduct," Burton said.

"It wasn't a one-off," he said.

A spokesperson for Peterson's attorney said the law office of Rusty Hardin and Associates had no comment.

WTF. What a doosh.

 

[Phil Elliott]

Can't suspend him. He needs that money to pay child support. Have any of AD's sponsors chimed in?

Not AD's sponsor, but Radisson (hotel brand under Carlson Companies headquartered in Mpls) has "suspended" their sponsorship with the Vikings as they didn't appreciate having their logo in the background during a press conference today when it was announced AD would be able to play this week.

http://www.carlson.com/news-and-media/news-releases.do?article=8660785

Radisson Statement on the Minnesota VikingsMinneapolis | September 15, 2014

Radisson takes this matter very seriously particularly in light of our long-standing commitment to the protection of children. We are closely following the situation and effective immediately, Radisson is suspending its limited sponsorship of the Minnesota Vikings while we evaluate the facts and circumstances.

 

[Koya]

Can't suspend him. He needs that money to pay child support. Have any of AD's sponsors chimed in?

Not AD's sponsor, but Radisson (hotel brand under Carlson Companies headquartered in Mpls) has "suspended" their sponsorship with the Vikings as they didn't appreciate having their logo in the background during a press conference today ..

http://www.carlson.com/news-and-media/news-releases.do?article=8660785

Radisson Statement on the Minnesota VikingsMinneapolis | September 15, 2014

Radisson takes this matter very seriously particularly in light of our long-standing commitment to the protection of children. We are closely following the situation and effective immediately, Radisson is suspending its limited sponsorship of the Minnesota Vikings while we evaluate the facts and circumstances.

For the NFL, #### just got real.

Notice the use of "LIMITED sponsorship"

Companies do NOT want to be associated with this.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

I'm still amazed that

1. The Vikings are actually going to let him play this Sunday

2. Thus far, the NFL has not taken any action

I don't understand what the heck they're thinking about. Public image is everything to the NFL. This is TERRIBLE public image for the NFL.

Tim, you're smarter than this. Can we please recognize that there's some nuance to these issues?

Does not make what AP did right. It disgusts me.

However, if you think that even abusive discipline of a parent equates to punching your wife out with a left hook, that's ridiculous. This is not a clear black and white issue. There is a large swarth of the culture for whom this is understandable, possibly even acceptable.

If anything, this can hopefully bring about a constructive dialogue so kids don't end up being beat like this (or at all).

Don't get the point of debating if one is worse than the other. No grown man should do either of these things.

If you are saying that a large % of our culture thinks it's acceptable to be physical with your child as punishment, I would agree with that (unfortunately). If you are saying that a large portion thinks that what AP did specifically is acceptable, that would make me very sad indeed.

I hope that Peterson receives zero punishment and people become so outraged that they force laws to be changed. My worst fear is that people get their "pound of flesh" and nothing is done to protect kids who are getting this every day.

 

[pollardsvision]

So a guy quoting the bible as justification for beating his kids has multiple 4 year old sons by multiple women?

No

Yesno

Maybeso?

Can you repeat the question?

 

[Guest]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

 

[Guest]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

The NFL doesn't follow the law. As mentioned earlier, players in Denver and Seattle can't smoke pot.

 

[bigbottom]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

He was indicted. At least one grand jury and a DA think he broke the law as currently written.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

He was indicted. At least one grand jury and a DA think he broke the law as currently written.

Will it make you feel good if Peterson gets convicted but the law doesn't change and kids continue getting the switch? Because that's what will happen if Peterson is found guilty. Everyone will tell themselves - "See, the system works to protect kids" - while kids are still getting abused.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

In both text messages he sent the mothers a pic of the abuse...saying he feels bad for what he did,but they needed it ...i see a pattern here.....maybe he has kids so he has someone to slap around and teach them respect , for there own good of course...btw ,the kid who swore learned that from an adult im guessing

 

[timschochet]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

 

[bigbottom]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

He was indicted. At least one grand jury and a DA think he broke the law as currently written.

Will it make you feel good if Peterson gets convicted but the law doesn't change and kids continue getting the switch? Because that's what will happen if Peterson is found guilty. Everyone will tell themselves - "See, the system works to protect kids" - while kids are still getting abused.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I'm fairly certain that there is no outcome to this situation that will make me feel good.

 

[bigbottom]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

Maybe the Montgomery County prosecutor will pull a Matthew McConaughy during close. "Now imagine he's white."

 

[bigbottom]

Statement from Rusty Hardin:

"The allegation of another investigation into Adrian Peterson is simply not true. This is not a new allegation, it's one that is unsubstantiated and was shopped around to authorities in two states over a year ago and nothing came of it. An adult witness adamantly insists Adrian did nothing inappropriate with his son. There is no ongoing or new investigation."

 

[dparker713]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

Being famous hurts you in a legal case, being an anonymous rich person is a boon.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Ray making a fool of himself again.

 

[timschochet]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

Being famous hurts you in a legal case, being an anonymous rich person is a boon.

I disagree with this. I'm sure you can name a few celebrities who have gone to jail, but I bet I can name a whole lot more who didn't.

 

[General Malaise]

Deadspin has the khou report of this other kid. Gave that one a scar over his eye. Neat dad.

But at least he's not a sissy!

 

[jonessed]

It's hard to take ESPN seriously when they have Ray Lewis up there.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

He was indicted. At least one grand jury and a DA think he broke the law as currently written.

Will it make you feel good if Peterson gets convicted but the law doesn't change and kids continue getting the switch? Because that's what will happen if Peterson is found guilty. Everyone will tell themselves - "See, the system works to protect kids" - while kids are still getting abused.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I'm fairly certain that there is no outcome to this situation that will make me feel good.

What about Peterson learning how to parent better, never hitting his kids again and the spanking being made illegal?

 

[Zow]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

Dude, I have little doubt that Peterson would be facing charges in every state for these actions. What laws do you want changed?

 

[Zow]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

Odds are he will reach a plea agreement.

 

[Zow]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

He was indicted. At least one grand jury and a DA think he broke the law as currently written.

Will it make you feel good if Peterson gets convicted but the law doesn't change and kids continue getting the switch? Because that's what will happen if Peterson is found guilty. Everyone will tell themselves - "See, the system works to protect kids" - while kids are still getting abused.

Again, what "law" do you want charged? Abusing a child is a crime in every jurisdiction. Additionally, just because something is made illegal, doesn't mean such action will stop. I am fairly confident in saying that no matter what changes are made to "the law" that children will still be abused. It sucks, but it's reality.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

He was indicted. At least one grand jury and a DA think he broke the law as currently written.

Will it make you feel good if Peterson gets convicted but the law doesn't change and kids continue getting the switch? Because that's what will happen if Peterson is found guilty. Everyone will tell themselves - "See, the system works to protect kids" - while kids are still getting abused.

Again, what "law" do you want charged? Abusing a child is a crime in every jurisdiction. Additionally, just because something is made illegal, doesn't mean such action will stop. I am fairly confident in saying that no matter what changes are made to "the law" that children will still be abused. It sucks, but it's reality.

I want spanking made illegal in every state, just as it is in Delaware.

It won't completely stop abuse but it will stop the people like Peterson who think they can avoid going over line with physical punishment. Maybe parents can actually learn to parent instead of relying on fear and pain to make their kids behave properly.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

Odds are he will reach a plea agreement.

It's very likely that he pleads down to domestic assault, which is a misdemeanor with no mandatory jail time. Still going to miss 6 games though.

 

[Zow]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

He was indicted. At least one grand jury and a DA think he broke the law as currently written.

Will it make you feel good if Peterson gets convicted but the law doesn't change and kids continue getting the switch? Because that's what will happen if Peterson is found guilty. Everyone will tell themselves - "See, the system works to protect kids" - while kids are still getting abused.

Again, what "law" do you want charged? Abusing a child is a crime in every jurisdiction. Additionally, just because something is made illegal, doesn't mean such action will stop. I am fairly confident in saying that no matter what changes are made to "the law" that children will still be abused. It sucks, but it's reality.

I want spanking made illegal in every state, just as it is in Delaware.

It won't completely stop abuse but it will stop the people like Peterson who think they can avoid going over line with physical punishment. Maybe parents can actually learn to parent instead of relying on fear and pain to make their kids behave properly.

Oh. So you want numerous laws changed and/or modified to take away the justification defense.

 

[dparker713]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

Being famous hurts you in a legal case, being an anonymous rich person is a boon.

I disagree with this. I'm sure you can name a few celebrities who have gone to jail, but I bet I can name a whole lot more who didn't.

You're free to disagree. You're wrong, but free to disagree.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

He was indicted. At least one grand jury and a DA think he broke the law as currently written.

Will it make you feel good if Peterson gets convicted but the law doesn't change and kids continue getting the switch? Because that's what will happen if Peterson is found guilty. Everyone will tell themselves - "See, the system works to protect kids" - while kids are still getting abused.

Again, what "law" do you want charged? Abusing a child is a crime in every jurisdiction. Additionally, just because something is made illegal, doesn't mean such action will stop. I am fairly confident in saying that no matter what changes are made to "the law" that children will still be abused. It sucks, but it's reality.

I want spanking made illegal in every state, just as it is in Delaware.

It won't completely stop abuse but it will stop the people like Peterson who think they can avoid going over line with physical punishment. Maybe parents can actually learn to parent instead of relying on fear and pain to make their kids behave properly.

Oh. So you want numerous laws changed and/or modified to take away the justification defense.

Correct. Then we stop having this idiotic "Is it abuse, is it discipline" discussion. As most laws are written there's far too much leeway in how much physical pain a parent can cause before it's considered abuse - hence the reason I've been supportive of Peterson during this.

 

[bigbottom]

So you get suspended for abusing dogs, and for abusing your wife, but your kids are fair game?

The law - change it.

He was indicted. At least one grand jury and a DA think he broke the law as currently written.

Will it make you feel good if Peterson gets convicted but the law doesn't change and kids continue getting the switch? Because that's what will happen if Peterson is found guilty. Everyone will tell themselves - "See, the system works to protect kids" - while kids are still getting abused.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I'm fairly certain that there is no outcome to this situation that will make me feel good.

What about Peterson learning how to parent better, never hitting his kids again and the spanking being made illegal?

I'll never really know whether Peterson becomes a better parent and never hits his kids again. And I'm not yet convinced that making spanking a crime is the best approach. So, again, I don't think that there is an outcome to this situation that will make me feel good.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Who got to Chris Carter? That was Bill Polian redux.

 

[Henry Ford]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

I don't know. He's still a black man in East Texas.

 

[johnnycakes]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

I don't know. He's still a black man in East Texas.

And he played college ball for Oklahoma.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

I don't know. He's still a black man in East Texas.

He's a black feller in east Texas that played for Oklahoma and has hired an expensive out of state lawyer to try confuse matters. Also, his behavior could make them all lose their right to corporal punishment if they are not careful.

Still, I expect a pleas bargain, a contrition show, a very generous donation to a charity relevant to the issue, useful public service where the judge, prosecutor, head of probation, etc. can hug the nuts of the "Star" and his legal case to be put to rest.

Of course that may discount the new witch trial mentality sweeping the country where each statement or example has to outdo the last. Precedent is becoming irrelevant as we all seek to outdo the last person to demonstrate our commitment to the new order. If Peterson is not careful he may become an offering to this new God.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Do you agree with Vikings Decision to reinstate Adrian Peterson?

Yes - 63%
No - 37%

(Total votes: 355,983)



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