fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Ya, I don't think we can expect much of Stephen Alexander from here on out. Good call.
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schooner44
Footballguy
I'm a Bills fan and even when TO was available the off-season that Phily signed him, I said I would never want him on the Bills because his athletic ability doesn't justify having to deal with the cancer he brings. The ONLY team he would be happy with is the same team who would put up with his crap...the Raiders.He'd do wonders for the confidence and development of Losman.I voted yes. Maybe if T.O. came to the Bills, we could actually throw deep? Evans, Owens, Moulds...
I didn't include what I voted for in my other post. I voted other. I'm not sure who would sign him but I didn't like any of the choices. I can't think of a team, that fits the requirements that I'm thinking of:Good QBGood DefenseGood RBOkay WRsGood Offensive lineI believe a team is going to take a chance on Owens only if they think he is truly the final piece that they need. If they don't think he's the missing piece, I believe they'll spend the money elsewhere to improve their team.edit: After looking at my post again, KC comes to mind, but their defense isn't living up to the improvements that they made, so TO couldn't be thought of as the final piece, could he?
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Shark Attack
Footballguy
I vote Balt. only because Ray Lewis would rip him a new one if he acts up. But he will likely go to a team with a QB who TO thinks will get him the ball the best. Mort just reported that the Eagles are going after 1.8 million of his signing bonus..getting even uglier now
ComfortablyNumb
Footballguy
Black Sox scandal guys?OJ Simpson?Tonya Harding?Mike Tyson?Ty Cobb?Barry Bonds?Cassius Clay/Ali (lots of old-timers hated him)?Rickey Williams?Kobe Bryant?I'll vote for TO. Totally self-absorbed ego maniac. Didn't kill or rape anybody, but he's just a total punk. Have to respect his talent, but he's the worst "teammate" of all time.Why can't the members of the national media just STOP putting microphones in front of him? If we just ignore him, he'd just fade away...
diesel7982
Footballguy
Hes a punk, but Id still rather have him that Darrell Russell or Bill Romanowski.
Tom Collins
Footballguy
BILL ROMANOWSKI
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Tough to argue with logic such as this. Sure, OJ probably killed two people, and Sure -- Ty Cobb beat up a cripple, but TO has a bad attitude!
How about Rae Carruth?? Owens may be a vindictive little baby but I hate killers more. As for a teammate I nominate either Chuck Knoblach or Jeff Kent. They were/are just as bad as Owens in the sense that they care only about themselves, ignore their teammates, and spite their fans. At least TO doesn't mind his fans and will celebrate with teammates and he did show some small respect for Rice. Nada from Knoblach or Kent. Only reason their unpleasantness isn't known is because they don't have the star power that Owens does and neither player, while each being very good, stood out significantly during a game.
Cool Papa Bell
Footballguy
I voted KC but I'm not too sure that'll happen. Someone will pony up some cash for him though.If NBA GMs will line up begging for the services of Latrell Sprewell after he choked his own coach, I'm certain several NFL GMs will fight over TO.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
I have a quote (more like a monologue) from Chuck Knoblauch after the Yanks were eliminated by Arizona in the '01 WS that goes against the notion that he cared little for his teammates.Oh, and I hate Bill Romanowski with every ounce of my being.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
TO is fun to hate, and he's a ####, but there are literally hundreds of worse sports figures out there. I hate every single NFL player who gets caught beating his girlfriend/wife (I'm talking to YOU, Ahman Green/Michael Pittman/Randy McMichael ect.) waaaaayyy more than a guy like TO.
throatpunch
Footballguy
Why does T.O. do a radio show in Miami? He lives in Philadelphia and is from Atlanta. I heard this mentioned over the weekend.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. After all is said and done and we are looking back on sports in five years, this story will just be about a superstar who got into a contract dispute, was suspended and deactivated by the team. TO may be hated by his team, but he's not hated by the entire sportsworld. Pete Rose is 500x more hated than TO.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Again, TO isn't going to win any of the "worst human beings of the world" awards.But, he's one of the most vilified sports figures because, as a teammate, he's the embodiment of all that is bad about teammates. Selfishness. Disrespect of teammates, authority. Whiny. All that.So, he's no Juice or Carruth. But, he's worse than Romo, in my opinion. Romo wasn't a bad guy to have ON your team...he was just an ingrate for the rest of the league, and a bad representative of the NFL.
Brintey Spears
Footballguy
I agree with this guy.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Are you kidding? Deluded? With whom would he play? The Eagles? Have you been in a dark, remote cave the last 72 hours? I know you're a supporter of t.o. and all, but you don't have to have many more brain cells than t.o. does to figure out there's not a scintilla chance he'll be playing again in an Eagle uniform this year. Ergo, he won't be playing at all for the rest of the year.
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
Why do people think KC? Because Vermeil drafted L. Phillips?You tell me how you think Terry fits with this group?GonzalezRoafShieldsGreenRichardsonKennisonHallheck.....PriestHalf of thsoe men are CHristians, and I know that there is no way ever that a guy of Terry's character will EVER see a Cheifs uniform under Vermeil's watch. Carl Peterson learned his lesson with the mutiny in 1998. Remember the Monday Night Meltdown? Peterson has obviously changed. The times of Dale Carter, Andre Rison, Wayne Simmons, Tamarick Vanover, Bam Morris, and others of that kind in KC are over.Think about this: If Larry Johnson's whining has caused such a stir, how do you think Terry's antics would go over in this city?Like OZ said, now way he comes here.
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
I don't waste any emotional energy hating a guy like TO. I pity his sorry ### far more than I could ever hate the man. A product of our "Me Generation," just look what wealth- talent, money and fame -he is squandering.His loss far more than ours...
...and he's on my $$ league roster.
Easy genius, if the Eagles cut TO another team can pick him up on waivers. There is a chance the Eagles cut him after he serves his four game suspension. If you have been in a remote cave for the last 72 hours the top two teams are the texans and packers. I hate it when people jump all over somebody on here especially if they don't know what they're talking about.
FairWarning
Footballguy
Eagles will pay him to sit. They will not put him on waivers. Good for them.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Yeah but when he was an athlete he was loved by all. He's hated long past his stardom for being a black man that got away with killing 2 white people. He doesn't really belong in the list. Comparing TO's actions to OJ is a real injustice that even TO doesn't deserve.
B Maverick
Footballguy
conflicting reports. One said they will deactivate him for the rest of the year. Meaning he gets the Keyshawn treatment and doesnt play this year, anywhere.Another says they will release him, meaning someone can sign and pay him but they will need to pick up the remaining part of his salary, something like 2.5 mill.I hope he is given the Keyshawn treatment.
packersfan
Footballguy
Tell it to the guy whose career Romo ended because he was juiced out of his gord.If we're talking about athletes who were hated while their careers were ongoing than TO may be near the top of the list. Obviously that would exclude O.J., who was a beloved figure during his playing career and probably Rose too, who a lot of people couldn't stand while he played but the hatred became much worse after he retired (and deservedly so; I've met him and he's just a despicable human being on a number of levels). Muhammad Ali was also hated by a large number of people during the 60s for his anti-war stance (a far more controversial issue than anything TO has done).
So while it's possible TO is the most disliked athlete at the current time I'm not sure where he would rank all-time on such a list. But I would imagine he'd be near the top of the list.
you never cease to crack me up with your posts 
RC94
Footballguy
I think this depends on when you are asking the question. Someone mentioned Ty Cobb - from everything I know about him he was extremely hated and it was well deserved. If this question was asked when he was still playing ball, I am sure he would have been at the top of the list, but that has been tempered over time. Ray Lewis was pretty hated, but someone else took his place when Ray dropped out of that spotlight. Now is TO's spotlight time, so he is certainly getting a lot of hate. If we ask this question 2 years from now when someone else has acted like an ###, that guy will top the list. Anyway, I agree with the people who said that he isn't the worst human being in the world since he doesn't get into trouble with the law, but being a criminal isn't the only reason to hate someone.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
This is kind of like comparing apples and oranges. TO can be the most loathsome athlete for his sports-related incidents based on the sportsmanship scale. And these guys who are criminal in their civilian life, non-sports-related, ARE worse overall than TO on a humanity scale. As long as you don't differentiate the two then you can't really make a good comparasin. Just my .02.
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
John Rocker has gotta be in the mix.At least in New York, anyway.
Cool Papa Bell
Footballguy
Well, half the guys you mention could easily be gone to retirement and/or trades by next season. Plus, I've learned to trust nothing that Peterson tells the media. He'll do whatever he can to get the upperhand in a negotiation. I don't know how many times I heard the Surtain trade was never going to happen and then, boom, he was a Chief. Also, yes, Vermeil likes to play daddy to troubled individuals. He just might like the idea of teaching TO how to cry. Ya never know.
