El Floppo
Footballguy
Every season has been rough for food, so I think they're just playing it safe, regardless. Like getting fit for a marathon or Iron Man, but in reverse.
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Alone ( A real survival type show) (1 Viewer)
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JaxBill
Footballguy
That, plus when you're already starving it's tough to spend the energy to go hunting/fishing.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Which one was it who was going to build his shelter much later, while opting to concentrate on hunting/eating earlier? (And who got rained on day one?)...was that Benji? It's an interesting strategy, but the calorie output needed to build the shelter seems historically better done early rather than later when they're already in caloric defecit... Let alone getting rained on. I don't see him lasting.JaxBill said:
El Floppo
Footballguy
That's kinda why I think the Juan Pablo guy has a shot here...added to his previous 100 days in the cold thing and his background (like all of them).
Great cast though. I started laughing remembering S1 where iirc they had more weekend warrior types. I recall a cop(?) tapping day one with bears sniffing around his tarp. Meanwhile these guys are already thinking about hunting bears.
It does seem like an all star cast season. I think the winner is the one that can take down some big game like the past couple of seasons.
El Floppo
Footballguy
We've already seen most of these guys make great shots with bow or fishing line...I wouldn't be surprised to see more than one pull something in.
El Floppo
Footballguy
The older woman is seriously kick ###, but also looks most likely to get hurt via fall or accident. I hope she lasts a long time, but seems most likely.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I was wondering why that guy wasn't using a net or trap in his tidal pool...seemed an obvious place for it.
Beef Ravioli
Footballguy
The one guy who caught all the fish said he was eating all of them and would not ration any of them. I was wondering if that is his overall strategy or just that particular night.
In previous seasons some have stored gobs of food away while they were starving. I always feel like eat the food while you have it is the way to go.
Obviously, if someone gets a big game animal that can be stored but eat all the fish, squirrels, birds and bunnies you can while you can!
In previous seasons some have stored gobs of food away while they were starving. I always feel like eat the food while you have it is the way to go.
Obviously, if someone gets a big game animal that can be stored but eat all the fish, squirrels, birds and bunnies you can while you can!
UOFI_316
Footballguy
Is it considered "passive" fishing if you anchor one end of a net, and then walk the other end around his tidal puddle? Or if it truly is separated after the tide goes out, seems like an easy place to set up some sort of funnel that he can chase them into and then have easy pickings with a normal net
Salt seems like an interesting choice, I get the idea just seems like there are better options in their list of things.
Beef Ravioli
Footballguy
TripItUp
Footballguy
I get why they put people like her on to mix it up and make it interesting, but hard to see her outlasting the younger guys who almost always win. She's going to need a lot of luck.
rustycolts
Footballguy
Yea the other was a guy from my neck of the woods. Umatilla there's bears around there all the time it's on the edge of the Ocala National Forest. I bet their in his back yard all the time. Wanna be redneck.
TripItUp
Footballguy
The tarp omission seems pretty brilliant if you have the capability to build a waterproof roof.
Not sure I'd go salt over rations, but I get it
I'm actually surprised more contestants haven't worked rations into their items...seems like a slam dunk to me.
Not sure I'd go salt over rations, but I get it
I'm actually surprised more contestants haven't worked rations into their items...seems like a slam dunk to me.
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Runkle
Footballguy
In the episode he explained his reasoning was that salt would make it better replenishing electrolytes for energy. Not sure if that's accurate or not, but that was his thought process.
UOFI_316
Footballguy
Yeah, you lose sodium in sweat and urine. Having extra salt will help replenish that. I am not sure of the other potential factors. Maybe keeping your sodium levels higher will help to hold off dizziness or some of the other symptoms of starvation some people have. He could also use it to preserve food, but I don't think that one big rock would be enough for that. Also, seems like something that could potentially bring in unwanted guests (or maybe he could use a rock of it to lure in an animal), or be lost to a leak in your roof.
I guess if you use it correctly early on, and use the extra energy to build a kick ### water proof house, it would have served its purpose.
krista4
Footballguy
I don't think she has a shot at winning, but depending upon your definition of "young," it's not the young guys who win. Other than Sam, who was in his mid-20s, the winners have ranged from ages 35-50. The young guys don't tend to have the mental makeup to win it IMO, which is why I'm not betting on the 24-year-old this year even though he's had good success hunting in the first episode.
krista4
Footballguy
JaxBill
Footballguy
I'm wondering if that was because he caught a bunch of small fish. Wondering if he had caught a larger fish if he would try to preserve part of a filet.
rustycolts
Footballguy
I agree with the older folks usually kids are grown so there is no missing babies growing up. Plus I'm really starting to believe there are real differences in generations when it comes to facing adversity.
TripItUp
Footballguy
Yeah, I was thinking of those younger than 60....the older guys never seem to make it either.
Sam(I think his name was), did pretty well in the vancouver season.(or somewhere around there). I think he was in his lower 20s, but he's the only really young guy I recall making it close to the end.
Seems like the sweet spot is men from 35-55? Without looking at anything.
I really wanted the younger lady in the arctic series(Cali?) to win...she was all skin and bones though, gave it everything.
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krista4
Footballguy
Agree regarding Carli - really liked her a lot. Wish she had bulked up before the filming.
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TripItUp
Footballguy
oh sheesh, read your post too fast and didn't realize you mentioned Sam...that was weird.
Agree regarding Carli - really liked her a lot. Wish she had bulked up before the filming.
krista4
Footballguy
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Beef Ravioli
Footballguy
Perhaps, but I think you need a whole lot more salt than that rock can provide to preserve a big animal????
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Roland probably moved there for fun.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
When I saw the 23-year-old kid with the baby face I thought, 'I like him but he's got no chance.'
I don't know the names/personalities of this year's group yet, but they ALL 'seem' likeable enough.
The most interesting thing to me so far was the find of cans and how the guy immediately turned that into a stove. I liked that a lot.
Not impressed with any of the shelters at this time.
In the past the shelters were interesting where we could see personalities/creativeness of the group come out.
None of the shelters look like they will help once the first bitter cold comes.
UOFI_316
Footballguy
So after 7? days he was worried about the memories he was missing from his wife and dog? I could maybe understand if it was your first kid, but.....
The guy who left his kindling out in the rain seems like a good choice to be this seasons guy who just swears at himself all the time.
Dying your hair before going out to give yourself fly making material was not an idea I had thought of.
Honest question, can a single arrow take down a charging bear?? Or do they need to sneak up and get it from the side in a "kill zone" or main organ/artery and then follow it until it dies.
The guy who left his kindling out in the rain seems like a good choice to be this seasons guy who just swears at himself all the time.
Dying your hair before going out to give yourself fly making material was not an idea I had thought of.
Honest question, can a single arrow take down a charging bear?? Or do they need to sneak up and get it from the side in a "kill zone" or main organ/artery and then follow it until it dies.
snogger
Footballguy
Beef Ravioli
Footballguy
Really? We thought the tree house builder from Arkansas built a great shelter. Tall, sturdy, built moss walls which they said were great for insulation, plus a door and a window. I thought it was one of the better shelters I’ve seen. He is calling it “Moss House” which I am sure is a nod to Rolan and the “Rock House”.
I thought the Hispanic young man that built a stove out of the cans had a good shelter as well.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
Charging bears are hard to kill, they have dumped adrenaline and even kill shots aren't immediately effective.
https://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/big-game-hunting/just-stop-charging-bear
Bears are incredibly fast despite their size, so speed of response is essential. Even if a potential victim sees the bear coming, time may be short. In a typical attack, the victim may have as little as .5 to 1.5 seconds to react. Training and practice are essential to survival. But just shooting the bear may not be enough to stop the attack. Bears are tough with heavy muscle and hide and very strong, thick bones. So, the first challenge is for the bullet to penetrate deeply enough to get to vital organs which, when damaged sufficiently, will cause the animal to stop the attack immediately. However, even if the heart or lungs are destroyed, the bear may still have enough oxygen and blood in its system to carry out the attack and kill the victim. Sure, the bear may die, but not before the victim is dead.
The best bet to immediately stop an attacking bear is to turn off its central nervous system, which requires a brain shot or a shot which severs the spinal cord. Since the spinal cord is so small, it makes sense to aim at the brain. But bears have thick, strong skulls shotgun slugs or even rifle bullets may not penetrate. The weakest part of a bear's skull is behind the face, in a small triangular shaped area roughly bounded by the eyes and the tip of the nose. A bullet striking this area has the greatest chance of penetrating the skull, hitting the brain and stopping the attack immediately. But it's a small area, the bear is moving, and the victim is under tremendous stress to respond instinctively before the bear makes contact.
El Floppo
Footballguy
While I get Jr's reasons for tapping, even if it's easy to see the flaws in them...how many people audition for this? He took a spot from some other worthy (as it turns out, more worthy) contestant and then got homesick for his girlfriend and puppy?
I do often find myself unhappy with these people killing animals essentially for my entertainment...so I think I get his struggles killing stuff a bit.
I do often find myself unhappy with these people killing animals essentially for my entertainment...so I think I get his struggles killing stuff a bit.
El Floppo
Footballguy
"being a doctor is expensive"
Ok, doc. Tell that to the guy who's an alpaca shearer.
But anyways, the Doc has some cool skills...loved his firepit. looking forward to seeing him and others adjust as things get harder.
Also really dug the guy with the tin can fireplace and chimney...very cool.
And of course the guy who included a window (nice to have the natural light, but not so nice to lose the thermal mass when it gets cold.
Ok, doc. Tell that to the guy who's an alpaca shearer.
But anyways, the Doc has some cool skills...loved his firepit. looking forward to seeing him and others adjust as things get harder.
Also really dug the guy with the tin can fireplace and chimney...very cool.
And of course the guy who included a window (nice to have the natural light, but not so nice to lose the thermal mass when it gets cold.
El Floppo
Footballguy
A lot of these people are talking about hunting bears...I assume that means getting the first couple shots off before the bear reacts, charging or not.
Either way...I appreciate your post a lot. Seems insane to try to even hunt a bear with the equipment on hand.
Is bow hunting bears a thing? Serious question.
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Dezbelief
Footballguy
Some places, especially in the South where bear populations are low, only bow hunting and/or primitive firearms are allowed. Most hunters will carry a pistol in case a bear charges.
Edit- I would have to be awful hungry to go bear hunting without a firearm or armed escort.
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UOFI_316
Footballguy
Pretty much what I was thinking. No way if you are surprised that an arrow will kill the bear. Unless you get that one in a million shot through the "soft" part of the skull, and would quick arrow shot have the force to penetrate. Not like a gun where every shot has the same exit velocity. And even then odds are that it will reach you.
Runkle
Footballguy
BroncoFreak_2K3
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Shelters aside, so far, skill level top to bottom, this is the the strongest set of 10 contestants ever. Going to be a great season
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While I realize in some seasons some of the contestants have trouble finding food early, I think that's the setup of the show. They drop you off before winter hits, when fish and game are fairly plentiful. The idea is to give you the opportunity to build a shelter and basically set yourself up for long term survival while resources exist. Then, winter hits, animals become scarce, fish go deeper in to the lake/ocean where the water is warmer, and it becomes much harder to find food. So, did you set yourself up for long term survival?
I assume the arrows are reusable as long as you don't lose them. They mentioned in one of their captions that each contestant can only bring 9 arrows.
Beef Ravioli
Footballguy
I think I agree with you unless it is such an easy shot that you are guaranteed to hit the squirrel and be able to find the arrow.stlrams said:
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