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The difference here is that Manning audibles to himself at the goal line.Disappointing.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
I thought they gave him 3 plays and he picked one as to what the defense was showing. Through this week:The difference here is that Manning audibles to himself at the goal line.Disappointing.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
And it works! They score a ton of points. Theres nothing wrong with audibling to yourself if you continue to produce!The difference here is that Manning audibles to himself at the goal line.Disappointing.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
Absolutley GREAT POSTING. All the Manning haters, please read this again.I thought they gave him 3 plays and he picked one as to what the defense was showing. Through this week:The difference here is that Manning audibles to himself at the goal line.Disappointing.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
Edge 17 rushes from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 3 td's
Manning 17 passing attempts from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 11 td's.
As a coach which of these options would you rather use?
Agreed in full. Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing, and Manning throwing the ball gives them a better chance to win.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
That might be the biggest piece of c-r-a-p I've heard on this board in a long time. What manning is doing is selfish, greedy, and in my opinion does not make sense from a FOOTBALL standpoint. Frankly it's bad play calling at this point. The offense has become totally predictable inside the 10, and mark my words - it will start o hurt the Colts. Edge is a very safe, reliable bet on 3rd and 1 from the 2. There is no good football argument for throwing it there. And don't give me that garbage about the Pats game last year. That was last year.What's most troubling about it is the effect it's got to be having on Edge's morale. Today's players, and their contracts, are largely measured on touchdowns. That's why Manning is doing what he is doing. And what doesthat say to your workhorse RB?? "OK Edge - you run for 200 yards in between the 10's and then let me get the TD record". And this during a contract year for Edge!! Boy - with teammates like that, who needs enemies.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
Yea they have to keep the score up, we all know what a offensive juggernaut Krenzel is.....that iis what is ticking me off.Absolutley GREAT POSTING. All the Manning haters, please read this again.I thought they gave him 3 plays and he picked one as to what the defense was showing. Through this week:The difference here is that Manning audibles to himself at the goal line.Disappointing.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
Edge 17 rushes from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 3 td's
Manning 17 passing attempts from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 11 td's.
As a coach which of these options would you rather use?
Thanks DCThis makes some of your FFA material easier to understand.J
Hi General,Check out the play by play from last week. Truth is James isn't getting it done.That might be the biggest piece of c-r-a-p I've heard on this board in a long time. What manning is doing is selfish, greedy, and in my opinion does not make sense from a FOOTBALL standpoint. Frankly it's bad play calling at this point. The offense has become totally predictable inside the 10, and mark my words - it will start o hurt the Colts. Edge is a very safe, reliable bet on 3rd and 1 from the 2. There is no good football argument for throwing it there. And don't give me that garbage about the Pats game last year. That was last year.What's most troubling about it is the effect it's got to be having on Edge's morale. Today's players, and their contracts, are largely measured on touchdowns. That's why Manning is doing what he is doing. And what doesthat say to your workhorse RB?? "OK Edge - you run for 200 yards in between the 10's and then let me get the TD record". And this during a contract year for Edge!! Boy - with teammates like that, who needs enemies.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
Not to mention what Manning's opponents are thinking. Throwing on first down with a 4TD lead in the 4th quarter?? He better watch his back. Wait till Houston plays them again this year.
Your rebuttal is WEAK. If the offense was so predictable in the redzone then how come the Colts seem able to score TDs from the redzone 99.9% of the time? Quit jumping on the "Peyton is greedy" bandwagon -- my hypothesis is that 100% of the complainers with this issue are Edgerrin James owners and/or non-Peyton Manning owners.P.S. I'm playing a Manning owner this week and while I'm pissed, I don't hate Manning for it.That might be the biggest piece of c-r-a-p I've heard on this board in a long time. What manning is doing is selfish, greedy, and in my opinion does not make sense from a FOOTBALL standpoint. Frankly it's bad play calling at this point. The offense has become totally predictable inside the 10, and mark my words - it will start o hurt the Colts. Edge is a very safe, reliable bet on 3rd and 1 from the 2. There is no good football argument for throwing it there. And don't give me that garbage about the Pats game last year. That was last year.What's most troubling about it is the effect it's got to be having on Edge's morale. Today's players, and their contracts, are largely measured on touchdowns. That's why Manning is doing what he is doing. And what doesthat say to your workhorse RB?? "OK Edge - you run for 200 yards in between the 10's and then let me get the TD record". And this during a contract year for Edge!! Boy - with teammates like that, who needs enemies.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
Not to mention what Manning's opponents are thinking. Throwing on first down with a 4TD lead in the 4th quarter?? He better watch his back. Wait till Houston plays them again this year.
That's an interesting stat, but it raises a lot of questions. How does Edge compare with other RB's? Is this significantly below average? Most importantly, what is the best call TODAY??? Defenses are obviously looking pass. Doesn't it make more sense to run the ball and keep them off guard? Plus - when are the plays run?? First and goal from the 5 is a lot different than 3rd and 1 from the 2. And how did that 3rd and 1 from the 2 pass work out for Peyton today?And the score and time left in the game also matters. Who in their right mind would expect a pass up b 4 TD's at the 2 yard line? Even if it works - it's just dumb. Bottom line - it's all about Peyton and this WILL work against him and the Colts in the next few weeks. Mark my words.Edge 17 rushes from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 3 td's
Manning 17 passing attempts from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 11 td's.
I really want to see how you fools answer this one. Maybe you are the same guys who thought Leaf was the better QB?
"Edge is a very safe, reliable bet on 3rd and 1 from the 2. There is no good football argument for throwing it there. "Apparently you missed this stat:That might be the biggest piece of c-r-a-p I've heard on this board in a long time. What manning is doing is selfish, greedy, and in my opinion does not make sense from a FOOTBALL standpoint. Frankly it's bad play calling at this point. The offense has become totally predictable inside the 10, and mark my words - it will start o hurt the Colts. Edge is a very safe, reliable bet on 3rd and 1 from the 2. There is no good football argument for throwing it there. And don't give me that garbage about the Pats game last year. That was last year.What's most troubling about it is the effect it's got to be having on Edge's morale. Today's players, and their contracts, are largely measured on touchdowns. That's why Manning is doing what he is doing. And what doesthat say to your workhorse RB?? "OK Edge - you run for 200 yards in between the 10's and then let me get the TD record". And this during a contract year for Edge!! Boy - with teammates like that, who needs enemies.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
Not to mention what Manning's opponents are thinking. Throwing on first down with a 4TD lead in the 4th quarter?? He better watch his back. Wait till Houston plays them again this year.
I'm not understanding what you're saying. Are you suggesting that once they are inside the 5 yard line that they should not give their best effort to score when its only in the 1st half???Yea they have to keep the score up, we all know what a offensive juggernaut Krenzel is.....that iis what is ticking me off.Absolutley GREAT POSTING. All the Manning haters, please read this again.I thought they gave him 3 plays and he picked one as to what the defense was showing. Through this week:The difference here is that Manning audibles to himself at the goal line.Disappointing.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
Edge 17 rushes from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 3 td's
Manning 17 passing attempts from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 11 td's.
As a coach which of these options would you rather use?
Good point jwvdcw...that's twice I've said that now..."Edge is a very safe, reliable bet on 3rd and 1 from the 2. There is no good football argument for throwing it there. "Apparently you missed this stat:That might be the biggest piece of c-r-a-p I've heard on this board in a long time. What manning is doing is selfish, greedy, and in my opinion does not make sense from a FOOTBALL standpoint. Frankly it's bad play calling at this point. The offense has become totally predictable inside the 10, and mark my words - it will start o hurt the Colts. Edge is a very safe, reliable bet on 3rd and 1 from the 2. There is no good football argument for throwing it there. And don't give me that garbage about the Pats game last year. That was last year.What's most troubling about it is the effect it's got to be having on Edge's morale. Today's players, and their contracts, are largely measured on touchdowns. That's why Manning is doing what he is doing. And what doesthat say to your workhorse RB?? "OK Edge - you run for 200 yards in between the 10's and then let me get the TD record". And this during a contract year for Edge!! Boy - with teammates like that, who needs enemies.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
Not to mention what Manning's opponents are thinking. Throwing on first down with a 4TD lead in the 4th quarter?? He better watch his back. Wait till Houston plays them again this year.
Edge 17 rushes from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 3 td's
Manning 17 passing attempts from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 11 td's.
I'm still waiting for this answer as well.Edge 17 rushes from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 3 td's
Manning 17 passing attempts from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 11 td's.
I really want to see how you fools answer this one. Maybe you are the same guys who thought Leaf was the better QB?
Just to add on even more....How is an offense that passes EXACTLY 1/2 OF THE TIME and runs EXACTLY 1/2 OF THE TIME inside the 5 yard line considered 'predictable' to you???"Edge is a very safe, reliable bet on 3rd and 1 from the 2. There is no good football argument for throwing it there. "Apparently you missed this stat:That might be the biggest piece of c-r-a-p I've heard on this board in a long time. What manning is doing is selfish, greedy, and in my opinion does not make sense from a FOOTBALL standpoint. Frankly it's bad play calling at this point. The offense has become totally predictable inside the 10, and mark my words - it will start o hurt the Colts. Edge is a very safe, reliable bet on 3rd and 1 from the 2. There is no good football argument for throwing it there. And don't give me that garbage about the Pats game last year. That was last year.What's most troubling about it is the effect it's got to be having on Edge's morale. Today's players, and their contracts, are largely measured on touchdowns. That's why Manning is doing what he is doing. And what doesthat say to your workhorse RB?? "OK Edge - you run for 200 yards in between the 10's and then let me get the TD record". And this during a contract year for Edge!! Boy - with teammates like that, who needs enemies.All of you "Manning is greedy" nut jobs need to take a one year break from Fantasy football, and actually pay attention to the football aspect of football.
Running backs take a beating in the NFL. They get hit multiple times, every carry. History has shown us VERY CLEARLY that running backs have a much shorter career trajectory than QB or WR. So maybe, just maybe, the Colts are saving James, who they know they need fresh to win a Super Bowl.
For years, people have bi***ed and moaned that Manning laser locked on Harrison. Now that they've developed other weapons, people are bi**&ing and moaning that he's NOT laser locked on Harrison.
Is Preist Holmes "greedy" because he scored all of those TD's the last three years? Faulk from the late 1990's? Emmitt and/or Favre from the mid 1990's? Of COURSE not. The entire purpose of football is to score touchdowns, period. If you have a QB who can throw for 60, throw him for 60. If you have a RB who can score 25-30, run his ####. I see a lot of people who's entire perspective of football has been completely warped by fantasy.
Not to mention what Manning's opponents are thinking. Throwing on first down with a 4TD lead in the 4th quarter?? He better watch his back. Wait till Houston plays them again this year.
Edge 17 rushes from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 3 td's
Manning 17 passing attempts from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 11 td's.
Hi jw,Don't hold your breath on that one. Can't reason with the guys that hate him for producing.I'm still waiting for this answer as well.Edge 17 rushes from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 3 td's
Manning 17 passing attempts from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 11 td's.
I really want to see how you fools answer this one. Maybe you are the same guys who thought Leaf was the better QB?
Thank goodness they pulled him to stop the
JYour welcome....
JB thowin' down at the General!! Show me some love my man!Look - I can't argue that what Manning has done has not been effective thus far. And obviously you guys have some good stats to back it up. Just remember - there's lies, damn lies, and then there's statistics. I wish I had more time to go back to last week's game and pull up those shamfeul stats of when and where Manning threw the ball, but I'm tied up doing two things at once this afternoon.Hi jw,Don't hold your breath on that one. Can't reason with the guys that hate him for producing.I'm still waiting for this answer as well.Edge 17 rushes from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 3 td's
Manning 17 passing attempts from the 5 yardline and in resulting in 11 td's.
I really want to see how you fools answer this one. Maybe you are the same guys who thought Leaf was the better QB?
J
