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Another Killing Of Police Officers At the Hands of Criminals (1 Viewer)

As for how you can find out about it ... get involved. If you care about these issues, take some responsibility for learning more. I knew about this incident - and the total lack of concern about it from anyone other than activists- because I read blogs and follow people on twitter who are upset about the conduct of law enforcement in this country. It's really not that hard to do in the information age. You can leave it to the media if you want, but then you're basically at the mercy of others who make decisions about what to protest and counter-protest and get angry about, because that's what the media will cater to.
I guess I don't have the time to get that involved in these issues, but that doesn't mean I don't care about them. I've got a 3 week old at home now (first kid), and finally now coming up for some air from how far behind I was with getting ready for him (he was 5 weeks early and caught us off guard, but all in all a very healthy and happy child for a premi) and the backlog I had at work. I get my "news" from 10-15 minutes of having the morning shows on in the background while I'm getting ready for work, some threads here in the FFA, Facebook (I don't do twitter, sorry), and generally what people are talking about at the office and among my friends and such. With the other situations that you brought up, it was all over every bit of news, all over the limited social media I use, and was really talked about anywhere you went. With this situation, the first I'd heard of it was some post someone made that I saw on FB this morning. I guess it just kinda surprised me that with all the random stories and such that people post about here in the FFA, when I did a search of this kid's name this morning here there wasn't one single hit. Seems that anytime there is even a hint of anything possibly being any kind of racially motivated someone would post something or make a new thread about it (especially when cops are involved). I guess it just surprised me a bit when there wasn't a single hit.
Congratulations! I've got a new two month old along with a 1.5 year old and a 3 year old, so I feel your pain.

Anyway, as I said I think the blame for the lack of coverage (and it is worthy of blame, there should be more) is directly attributable to the lack of outrage in the community. I don't blame the black lives matter activists for that- as far as I can tell they were the only people who were speaking about it before the WaPo story yesterday. You can blame the public or the South Carolina community or whatever, and I suppose the media as well, but they just react to public interest. If there hadn't been huge protests in Ferguson do you think any of us would know the name Michael Brown? I'm pretty sure we wouldn't.

Unrelated- you should give twitter a try. It's great for people who are deeply interested in particular issues, and you seem to fit that description like I do. Makes it easy to filter out what sort of subjects you want to hear about and what you don't. Plus it's easy to scroll through on your phone with one hand at 2 AM while you hold a bottle for a crying baby in the other hand.

 
As for how you can find out about it ... get involved. If you care about these issues, take some responsibility for learning more. I knew about this incident - and the total lack of concern about it from anyone other than activists- because I read blogs and follow people on twitter who are upset about the conduct of law enforcement in this country. It's really not that hard to do in the information age. You can leave it to the media if you want, but then you're basically at the mercy of others who make decisions about what to protest and counter-protest and get angry about, because that's what the media will cater to.
I guess I don't have the time to get that involved in these issues, but that doesn't mean I don't care about them. I've got a 3 week old at home now (first kid), and finally now coming up for some air from how far behind I was with getting ready for him (he was 5 weeks early and caught us off guard, but all in all a very healthy and happy child for a premi) and the backlog I had at work. I get my "news" from 10-15 minutes of having the morning shows on in the background while I'm getting ready for work, some threads here in the FFA, Facebook (I don't do twitter, sorry), and generally what people are talking about at the office and among my friends and such. With the other situations that you brought up, it was all over every bit of news, all over the limited social media I use, and was really talked about anywhere you went. With this situation, the first I'd heard of it was some post someone made that I saw on FB this morning. I guess it just kinda surprised me that with all the random stories and such that people post about here in the FFA, when I did a search of this kid's name this morning here there wasn't one single hit. Seems that anytime there is even a hint of anything possibly being any kind of racially motivated someone would post something or make a new thread about it (especially when cops are involved). I guess it just surprised me a bit when there wasn't a single hit.
Of course it wasn't mentioned in here. It doesn't jive with the narrative being put forward by Tobias and the other liberals who continue to pimp their race baiting ideologies. They don't care about white people getting killed by police. They only care when it's a black person, because it reinforces their flawed notion that police are hunting down blacks, when the numbers and the facts clearly show otherwise.Once again, the facts are that 25% of all people killed by police this year were black. And according to the FBI's 2013 arrest statistics blacks account for 28% of all arrests.
Hey, could you do me a favor? If you're arrogant and condescending enough to think you have a right to tell other people what I care about and what I don't, at least be accurate about it?

Because you're totally wrong here about both myself and "other liberals," as I already explained on the last page of the thread. In fact until yesterday myself and other people who share my concerns seemed to be the ONLY people who were upset about it.

 
Go to MSNBC's website and do a search on Zachary Hammond. Zero articles.

Search Samuel DuBose. You will find 3 pages of links to content. 41 articles.

 
As for how you can find out about it ... get involved. If you care about these issues, take some responsibility for learning more. I knew about this incident - and the total lack of concern about it from anyone other than activists- because I read blogs and follow people on twitter who are upset about the conduct of law enforcement in this country. It's really not that hard to do in the information age. You can leave it to the media if you want, but then you're basically at the mercy of others who make decisions about what to protest and counter-protest and get angry about, because that's what the media will cater to.
I guess I don't have the time to get that involved in these issues, but that doesn't mean I don't care about them. I've got a 3 week old at home now (first kid), and finally now coming up for some air from how far behind I was with getting ready for him (he was 5 weeks early and caught us off guard, but all in all a very healthy and happy child for a premi) and the backlog I had at work. I get my "news" from 10-15 minutes of having the morning shows on in the background while I'm getting ready for work, some threads here in the FFA, Facebook (I don't do twitter, sorry), and generally what people are talking about at the office and among my friends and such. With the other situations that you brought up, it was all over every bit of news, all over the limited social media I use, and was really talked about anywhere you went. With this situation, the first I'd heard of it was some post someone made that I saw on FB this morning. I guess it just kinda surprised me that with all the random stories and such that people post about here in the FFA, when I did a search of this kid's name this morning here there wasn't one single hit. Seems that anytime there is even a hint of anything possibly being any kind of racially motivated someone would post something or make a new thread about it (especially when cops are involved). I guess it just surprised me a bit when there wasn't a single hit.
Of course it wasn't mentioned in here. It doesn't jive with the narrative being put forward by Tobias and the other liberals who continue to pimp their race baiting ideologies. They don't care about white people getting killed by police. They only care when it's a black person, because it reinforces their flawed notion that police are hunting down blacks, when the numbers and the facts clearly show otherwise.Once again, the facts are that 25% of all people killed by police this year were black. And according to the FBI's 2013 arrest statistics blacks account for 28% of all arrests.
Hey, could you do me a favor? If you're arrogant and condescending enough to think you have a right to tell other people what I care about and what I don't, at least be accurate about it?

Because you're totally wrong here about both myself and "other liberals," as I already explained on the last page of the thread. In fact until yesterday myself and other people who share my concerns seemed to be the ONLY people who were upset about it.
You said you knew about the Hammond killing. Did you post it in here anywhere?
 
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As for how you can find out about it ... get involved. If you care about these issues, take some responsibility for learning more. I knew about this incident - and the total lack of concern about it from anyone other than activists- because I read blogs and follow people on twitter who are upset about the conduct of law enforcement in this country. It's really not that hard to do in the information age. You can leave it to the media if you want, but then you're basically at the mercy of others who make decisions about what to protest and counter-protest and get angry about, because that's what the media will cater to.
I guess I don't have the time to get that involved in these issues, but that doesn't mean I don't care about them. I've got a 3 week old at home now (first kid), and finally now coming up for some air from how far behind I was with getting ready for him (he was 5 weeks early and caught us off guard, but all in all a very healthy and happy child for a premi) and the backlog I had at work. I get my "news" from 10-15 minutes of having the morning shows on in the background while I'm getting ready for work, some threads here in the FFA, Facebook (I don't do twitter, sorry), and generally what people are talking about at the office and among my friends and such. With the other situations that you brought up, it was all over every bit of news, all over the limited social media I use, and was really talked about anywhere you went. With this situation, the first I'd heard of it was some post someone made that I saw on FB this morning. I guess it just kinda surprised me that with all the random stories and such that people post about here in the FFA, when I did a search of this kid's name this morning here there wasn't one single hit. Seems that anytime there is even a hint of anything possibly being any kind of racially motivated someone would post something or make a new thread about it (especially when cops are involved). I guess it just surprised me a bit when there wasn't a single hit.
Of course it wasn't mentioned in here. It doesn't jive with the narrative being put forward by Tobias and the other liberals who continue to pimp their race baiting ideologies. They don't care about white people getting killed by police. They only care when it's a black person, because it reinforces their flawed notion that police are hunting down blacks, when the numbers and the facts clearly show otherwise.Once again, the facts are that 25% of all people killed by police this year were black. And according to the FBI's 2013 arrest statistics blacks account for 28% of all arrests.
Hey, could you do me a favor? If you're arrogant and condescending enough to think you have a right to tell other people what I care about and what I don't, at least be accurate about it?

Because you're totally wrong here about both myself and "other liberals," as I already explained on the last page of the thread. In fact until yesterday myself and other people who share my concerns seemed to be the ONLY people who were upset about it.
You said you knew about the Hammong killing. Did you post it in here anywhere?
No. I haven't posted about any of the police shootings in the last year or two until someone else did. Unless I'm cracking jokes or talking sports my MO around here is to reply to other discussions and threads, not start up my own. I don't feel the need to prove to unreasonable, condescending people like you that I care about the things that I care about. Why don't you ask the same questions of the "all lives matter" crowd or the "blue lives matter" crowd? Their silence speaks volumes.

 
And hey, feel free to apologize any time for not only deciding you had the right to tell people what I care about and don't care about, but also being totally wrong about it.

 
Congratulations! I've got a new two month old along with a 1.5 year old and a 3 year old, so I feel your pain.

Anyway, as I said I think the blame for the lack of coverage (and it is worthy of blame, there should be more) is directly attributable to the lack of outrage in the community. I don't blame the black lives matter activists for that- as far as I can tell they were the only people who were speaking about it before the WaPo story yesterday. You can blame the public or the South Carolina community or whatever, and I suppose the media as well, but they just react to public interest. If there hadn't been huge protests in Ferguson do you think any of us would know the name Michael Brown? I'm pretty sure we wouldn't.

Unrelated- you should give twitter a try. It's great for people who are deeply interested in particular issues, and you seem to fit that description like I do. Makes it easy to filter out what sort of subjects you want to hear about and what you don't. Plus it's easy to scroll through on your phone with one hand at 2 AM while you hold a bottle for a crying baby in the other hand.
Thank you! I'm having a hard enough time with one, can't image 3!

I did try twitter a few years ago, but did so to try to get just sports information. It just never "clicked" for me.

As for Brown, it's unknown if we'd know his name now with the protests. I suspect we would, though.

 
And hey, feel free to apologize any time for not only deciding you had the right to tell people what I care about and don't care about, but also being totally wrong about it.
You're right. Bad on my part. Sorry.
 
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-zachary-hammond-police-shooting-20150804-htmlstory.html

Why the police killing of this unarmed white man has not led to national outcry

Zachary Hammond, an unarmed white 19-year-old, was in the middle of a seemingly routine vehicle stop in South Carolina last week when a police officer fatally shot him.

Police have said the officer fired in self-defense during a drug sting, but a subsequent autopsy seems to counter the officers claim that Hammond tried to hit him with a car.

Hammonds death left his family scrambling for answers, but it did not spark the national outcry that has accompanied other fatal police shootings in the last year. His name has not joined the lexicon that includes Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice and Samuel DuBose.

Why?

Saying Hammonds death is being ignored because he was white would be an oversimplification, said Meredith Clark, an assistant professor at the Mayborn School of Journalism at the University of North Texas who is conducting a research project on the Black Lives Matter movement.

Police have not released video

Clark said the absence of a compelling video or a history of brutality complaints involving the Seneca Police Department, not Hammond's race, was the main reason the story has remained low-profile.

Although the lack of attention paid by the mainstream media and on social media has caused some to suggest Hammonds case would have received more attention if he were black, researchers in the social justice field believe the story is not being ignored, but rather is spreading slowly.

"The thing that Im hearing from people is not just a narrative of racial justice. It is accountability for police forces. It is transparency. It is understanding how communities are being policed and what the average citizen has a right to do, or not to do, in those interactions," Clark said. "In that case, Hammond fits right in. Itll just be a matter of time, but we havent heard of prior complaints about the police force where he was."
 
And hey, feel free to apologize any time for not only deciding you had the right to tell people what I care about and don't care about, but also being totally wrong about it.
You're right. Bad on my part. Sorry.
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All good. I'm going home to play with my kids. See you all next week when people will hopefully be talking about this incident ... for the right reasons.
Just curious, but if the exact same situation were true (no protests and such), but he were black, would you or I or Tso have already known his name this morning because of the media?

 
As for how you can find out about it ... get involved. If you care about these issues, take some responsibility for learning more. I knew about this incident - and the total lack of concern about it from anyone other than activists- because I read blogs and follow people on twitter who are upset about the conduct of law enforcement in this country. It's really not that hard to do in the information age. You can leave it to the media if you want, but then you're basically at the mercy of others who make decisions about what to protest and counter-protest and get angry about, because that's what the media will cater to.
I guess I don't have the time to get that involved in these issues, but that doesn't mean I don't care about them. I've got a 3 week old at home now (first kid), and finally now coming up for some air from how far behind I was with getting ready for him (he was 5 weeks early and caught us off guard, but all in all a very healthy and happy child for a premi) and the backlog I had at work. I get my "news" from 10-15 minutes of having the morning shows on in the background while I'm getting ready for work, some threads here in the FFA, Facebook (I don't do twitter, sorry), and generally what people are talking about at the office and among my friends and such. With the other situations that you brought up, it was all over every bit of news, all over the limited social media I use, and was really talked about anywhere you went. With this situation, the first I'd heard of it was some post someone made that I saw on FB this morning. I guess it just kinda surprised me that with all the random stories and such that people post about here in the FFA, when I did a search of this kid's name this morning here there wasn't one single hit. Seems that anytime there is even a hint of anything possibly being any kind of racially motivated someone would post something or make a new thread about it (especially when cops are involved). I guess it just surprised me a bit when there wasn't a single hit.
Of course it wasn't mentioned in here. It doesn't jive with the narrative being put forward by Tobias and the other liberals who continue to pimp their race baiting ideologies. They don't care about white people getting killed by police. They only care when it's a black person, because it reinforces their flawed notion that police are hunting down blacks, when the numbers and the facts clearly show otherwise.Once again, the facts are that 25% of all people killed by police this year were black. And according to the FBI's 2013 arrest statistics blacks account for 28% of all arrests.
Hey, could you do me a favor? If you're arrogant and condescending enough to think you have a right to tell other people what I care about and what I don't, at least be accurate about it?

Because you're totally wrong here about both myself and "other liberals," as I already explained on the last page of the thread. In fact until yesterday myself and other people who share my concerns seemed to be the ONLY people who were upset about it.
You said you knew about the Hammond killing. Did you post it in here anywhere?
Did you post about Hammond killing anywhere?

 
The cop was screwed either way. If he shoots the guy coming at him he is another white cop who shot an unarmed black man, with the BLM lynch mob and liberal media calling for his head. If he doesn't shoot, he gets attacked and beaten unconscious.
 
Cops Conduct Body Cavity Search for Phantom Marijuana

A Spring woman claims sheriff's deputies violated constitutional protections by conducting a body cavity search on the concrete of a Texaco gas station parking lot during a routine traffic stop in late June.

Charnesia Corley, a 21-year-old African American, was driving in northern Harris County around 10:30 p.m. on June 21 when a male deputy pulled her over for allegedly running a stop sign. He said he smelled marijuana, handcuffed Corley, put her in his vehicle and searched her car for almost an hour. He didn't find any pot, according to her attorney, Sam Cammack.

Returning to his car where Corley was held, the deputy again said he smelled marijuana and called in a female deputy to conduct a cavity search. When the female deputy arrived, she told Corley to pull her pants down, but Corley protested because she was cuffed and had no underwear on. The deputy ordered Corley to bend over, pulled down her pants and began to search her.

Then, according to Cammack, Corley stood up and protested, so the deputy threw her to the ground and restrained her while another female was called in to assist. When backup arrived, each deputy held one of Corley's legs apart to conduct the probe.

"What these officers did out there at the Texaco station was unconscionable. I've worked many big cases and I've never seen that," said Cammack, who plans to sue the Harris County Sheriff's Office in federal court.

The Sheriff's Office said they could not comment on an ongoing investigation, but confirmed an incident took place.

Rebecca Robertson, legal and policy director of the ACLU of Texas, said a cavity search without a warrant was a "blatant" violation of the Fourth Amendment, and that an orifice probe was the most invasive search possible.

"A body cavity search without a warrant would be constitutionally suspect," she said. "But a body cavity search by the side of the road ... I can't imagine a circumstance where that would be constitutional."

When she arrived, she told Corley to pull her pants down, but Corley protested because she was cuffed and had no underwear on. The deputy ordered Corley to bend over, pulled down her pants and began to insert her finger into Corley's ######.

Then, according to Cammack, Corley stood up and protested, so the deputy threw her to the ground and restrained her while another female was called in to assist. When backup arrived, each deputy held one of Corley's legs apart while they conducted the orifice probe.

"I've defended law enforcement. I don't jump on the band wagon of trying to persecute police officers," Cammack said. "But what these officers did out there at the Texaco station was unconscionable. I've worked many big cases and I've never seen that."

Rebecca Robertson, legal and policy director of the ACLU of Texas, said the cavity search without a warrant was a "blatant" violation of the Fourth Amendment, and that an orifice probe was the most invasive search possible.

"A body cavity search without a warrant would be constitutionally suspect," she said. "But a body cavity search by the side of the road... I can't imagine a circumstance where that would be constitutional."

A public cavity search is even in violation of common protocol for the Harris County Sheriff's Office, said Robert Goerlitz, president of the Harris County Sheriff Deputies Organization.

To perform a cavity search — which Goerlitz noted have turned up crack pipes and drugs — deputies should arrest a suspect and take them to an HSCO substation. Headquarters downtown even boasts a microwave scanner that can perform the task without intrusion.

Goerlitz said that in his years training deputies, he has never taught a roadside cavity search.

"I can't really say I've ever heard of that happening before," he said. "That's kind of shocking to me."

Robertson noted that cavity searches have been the subject of past litigation in Texas.

In 2013, the DPS was forced to pay $185,000 to two Irving women who alleged Texas Department of Public Safety troopers had conducted cavity searches roadside, illuminated by patrol car headlights and in full view of passing traffic, in which the trooper touched both women without changing gloves.

In July 2014, a New Mexico woman was awarded $1.1 million in a lawsuit against and El Paso hospital where she was subjected to a body cavity search for narcotics that didn't turn up drugs. The woman also sued Customs and Border Patrol officers who detained her at a border crossing and requested the cavity search.

And December 2014, a Harris County woman sued the DPS over what she claims was an unwarranted cavity search roadside, where she said male officers stood around and watched.

According to court documents, Corley was arrested for possession of marijuana and for resisting arrest; a criminal complaint says Corley pushed a deputy with her hip and kicked her with her foot. KTRK TV reports deputies seized a half-gram of marijuana, but didn't say where it was located.

 
Just another day in the war on drugs:

Quinn Eaker woke up naked on an early Friday morning to a 20-man SWAT team swarming his North Texas commune with weapons raised.

That was at 7:40 am on August 2, 2013. Eight hours later Eaker and seven others were still in handcuffs as various agencies from the City of Arlington continued to search for drugs and weapons listed in a search warrant. But they never found anything.

Now Eaker, 32, and four others are suing the city, claiming law enforcement violated Fourth Amendment protections of unreasonable search and seizure by raiding the home, forcibly detaining the residents and ripping up garden plants based on unsubstantiated intelligence and a flimsy search warrant.

"We were treated worse than criminals, like terrorists. But they didn't find a thing and not a single fact in their warrant was substantiated," said Eaker, a founder of the Garden of Eden commune and the person named on the search warrant. "They came in, machine guns in your face, no questions, just death or surrender immediately."

At the Garden of Eden, on the outskirts of Arlington, residents live with minimal electricity, drink from a well, use composting outhouses, grow all of their food and spend most of their time farming their almost four-acre plot.

The lawsuit, filed last month in a federal court, alleges Arlington Police failed to establish probable cause before cutting the lock on the Garden's gate and forcibly detaining the residents for a full day. It names Arlington detective Magdalena Perez, a five-year veteran of the department and a 2.5-year veteran of the narcotics division, who signed the probable cause affidavitto warrant the raid.

"This is a case about whether there was probable cause to issue the warrant," said attorney Wes Dauphinot, who filed the case. "That's what triggers the Fourth Amendment."

"The execution of the narcotics warrant was valid and based on probable cause," said Elisabeth Kaylor, an assistant city attorney with the City of Arlington.

In the affidavit, detective Perez uses four key claims to establish probable cause.

The first is that Eaker "committed the offense of possession of marijuana" on June 30, 2013, in Arlington, citing no source for the information. Eaker said he had no encounter with law enforcement that day and did not posess marijuana. A search of Arlington court records turned up no marijuana or other drug charges in Eaker's name.

Then Perez writes that undercover officers toured the Garden during a public event in 2013, and "Eaker spoke with officers about gardening." They also said they did not see all of the property.

Next the affidavit hones in on the Garden's website, which highlights the "uber dank high vibe cuisine" cooked from garden-grown crops.

"[Detective Perez] knows through her training and experience that "Uber Dank" is also slang for high quality marijuana. [Perez] also knows that individuals who consume marijuana often refer to the sensation felt after consumption as a 'high," the document said, even though the website went on to explain the term "uber dank" meant delicious.

Then the document cites "an anonymous source" for a claim that Eaker had "two rifles and one pistol on the property."

And it describes a July 2013 commissioned surveillance flight over the property by a Texas Department of Public Safety pilot who observed an area "containing perimeter plants that appeared to be taller than the interior plants." The pilot opined the plants "did appear to be consistent with marijuana plants," but Perez never described independent confirmation.

"By the way her affidavit reads you would think there was a live drug cartel going on in Arlington that nobody knew about except the police department," said Dauphinot. "The only problem is it was just a bunch of farmers."

According to the lawsuit, the SWAT raid was immediately followed by a swarm of more than 30 officials from the police department and the city's Code Compliance Department, who cut down and carted off tomatillo, hackberry and sweet potato plants, and who broke irrigation lines with their trucks.

In the end, authorities found no drugs or weapons.

Eaker said he was moved to sue to make a point and to prevent the ordeal from happening again to someone else.

"I'm passionately convicted in saying this is not how we treat people and this is not how a successful, efficient, honorable society operates," he said. "This is not in line with freedom."

The lawsuit requests compensation for damages, including mental anguish and physical pain from handcuffs.

It also demands that "City of Arlington narcotics officers should be trained on ... how to identify a marijuana plant;" "how to interview informants;" "how to take the proper time to develop a narcotics case; "to tell the truth in an affidavit;" and "to properly corroborate anonymous tips."

 
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Cops Conduct Body Cavity Search for Phantom Marijuana

A Spring woman claims sheriff's deputies violated constitutional protections by conducting a body cavity search on the concrete of a Texaco gas station parking lot during a routine traffic stop in late June.

Charnesia Corley, a 21-year-old African American, was driving in northern Harris County around 10:30 p.m. on June 21 when a male deputy pulled her over for allegedly running a stop sign. He said he smelled marijuana, handcuffed Corley, put her in his vehicle and searched her car for almost an hour. He didn't find any pot, according to her attorney, Sam Cammack.

Returning to his car where Corley was held, the deputy again said he smelled marijuana and called in a female deputy to conduct a cavity search. When the female deputy arrived, she told Corley to pull her pants down, but Corley protested because she was cuffed and had no underwear on. The deputy ordered Corley to bend over, pulled down her pants and began to search her.

Then, according to Cammack, Corley stood up and protested, so the deputy threw her to the ground and restrained her while another female was called in to assist. When backup arrived, each deputy held one of Corley's legs apart to conduct the probe.

"What these officers did out there at the Texaco station was unconscionable. I've worked many big cases and I've never seen that," said Cammack, who plans to sue the Harris County Sheriff's Office in federal court.

The Sheriff's Office said they could not comment on an ongoing investigation, but confirmed an incident took place.

Rebecca Robertson, legal and policy director of the ACLU of Texas, said a cavity search without a warrant was a "blatant" violation of the Fourth Amendment, and that an orifice probe was the most invasive search possible.

"A body cavity search without a warrant would be constitutionally suspect," she said. "But a body cavity search by the side of the road ... I can't imagine a circumstance where that would be constitutional."

When she arrived, she told Corley to pull her pants down, but Corley protested because she was cuffed and had no underwear on. The deputy ordered Corley to bend over, pulled down her pants and began to insert her finger into Corley's ######.

Then, according to Cammack, Corley stood up and protested, so the deputy threw her to the ground and restrained her while another female was called in to assist. When backup arrived, each deputy held one of Corley's legs apart while they conducted the orifice probe.

"I've defended law enforcement. I don't jump on the band wagon of trying to persecute police officers," Cammack said. "But what these officers did out there at the Texaco station was unconscionable. I've worked many big cases and I've never seen that."

Rebecca Robertson, legal and policy director of the ACLU of Texas, said the cavity search without a warrant was a "blatant" violation of the Fourth Amendment, and that an orifice probe was the most invasive search possible.

"A body cavity search without a warrant would be constitutionally suspect," she said. "But a body cavity search by the side of the road... I can't imagine a circumstance where that would be constitutional."

A public cavity search is even in violation of common protocol for the Harris County Sheriff's Office, said Robert Goerlitz, president of the Harris County Sheriff Deputies Organization.

To perform a cavity search — which Goerlitz noted have turned up crack pipes and drugs — deputies should arrest a suspect and take them to an HSCO substation. Headquarters downtown even boasts a microwave scanner that can perform the task without intrusion.

Goerlitz said that in his years training deputies, he has never taught a roadside cavity search.

"I can't really say I've ever heard of that happening before," he said. "That's kind of shocking to me."

Robertson noted that cavity searches have been the subject of past litigation in Texas.

In 2013, the DPS was forced to pay $185,000 to two Irving women who alleged Texas Department of Public Safety troopers had conducted cavity searches roadside, illuminated by patrol car headlights and in full view of passing traffic, in which the trooper touched both women without changing gloves.

In July 2014, a New Mexico woman was awarded $1.1 million in a lawsuit against and El Paso hospital where she was subjected to a body cavity search for narcotics that didn't turn up drugs. The woman also sued Customs and Border Patrol officers who detained her at a border crossing and requested the cavity search.

And December 2014, a Harris County woman sued the DPS over what she claims was an unwarranted cavity search roadside, where she said male officers stood around and watched.

According to court documents, Corley was arrested for possession of marijuana and for resisting arrest; a criminal complaint says Corley pushed a deputy with her hip and kicked her with her foot. KTRK TV reports deputies seized a half-gram of marijuana, but didn't say where it was located.
what the #### country do we live in ??????????????? this is insane ... :shock:

 
The cop was screwed either way. If he shoots the guy coming at him he is another white cop who shot an unarmed black man, with the BLM lynch mob and liberal media calling for his head. If he doesn't shoot, he gets attacked and beaten unconscious.
Pretty easy decision. Shoot him.

 
The cop was screwed either way. If he shoots the guy coming at him he is another white cop who shot an unarmed black man, with the BLM lynch mob and liberal media calling for his head. If he doesn't shoot, he gets attacked and beaten unconscious.
Pretty easy decision. Shoot him.
Update on this story - http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/us/alabama-birmingham-police-detective-pistol-whipped/

A Birmingham, Alabama, police detective who was pistol-whipped unconscious said Friday that he hesitated to use force because he didn't want to be accused of needlessly killing an unarmed man.

"A lot of officers are being too cautious because of what's going on in the media," said the officer, who asked to remain anonymous for the safety of his family. "I hesitated because I didn't want to be in the media like I am right now."
Police Chief A.C. Roper sees the episode -- as well as the reaction, including celebratory and vitriolic comments posted online alongside images of the wounded officer -- as symptomatic of a larger problem, in which some don't respect law enforcement.

"The nobility and integrity of policing has been challenged," Roper said. "As a profession, we have allowed popular culture to draft a narrative which is contrary to the amazing work that so many officers are doing everyday across this nation."

Adding insult to injury: several bystanders, instead of helping, took pictures of the bloodied officer as he was facedown on the concrete and posted the images on social media, where the officer was mocked.

"Pistol whipped his ### to sleep," one user wrote, employing the hashtag #FckDaPolice. Another mockingly offered the officer milk and cookies for his "nap time."

Roper, the Birmingham police chief, called the fact bystanders would take pictures of an officer being beaten rather than help him, then proceed to post them, "absolutely inhumane." The online commenters only made it worse.

"It really speaks to the lack of their morality and humanity," the chief said. "People commented on the pictures in a celebratory fashion ... disregarding that this public servant has a family and is committed to serve in some of our most challenging communities."
 
Passing motorists take down shooter who shot La. trooper in head with sawed-off shotgun during traffic stop

A gunman critically wounded the Louisiana State Police trooper who stopped to check on his stalled car — but passing drivers tackled him before he could flee the scene, authorities said.

Suspected shooter Kevin Daigle will likely be charged with attempted murder of a police officer for shooting Trooper Steven Vincent, a 13-year force veteran, in Lake Charles Sunday.

Vincent is in critical but stable condition after Daigle shot him twice in the head with a sawed-off shotgun, officials said.

Two good Samaritans saw the shooting and pulled over to help, Sgt. James Anderson told the Daily News. The duo tended to the wounded 43-year-old trooper, using his police radio to call for help, and wrestled the shotgun out of the suspect’s hands. They cuffed him with Vincent’s handcuffs and held him at the scene until police arrived.

“It was pandemonium out here,” Anderson said.

The chaos started when Vincent stopped to check on a suspected impaired driver stuck in a ditch along Highway 14.

As the trooper tried to coax Daigle out of his stalled car so he could make an arrest, the driver pulled out his weapon and shot Vincent twice in the head, authorities said.

The scene was captured on the trooper’s dash-cam.

“I watched ... saw the door come straight open and he pulled out a shotgun — a sawed-off shotgun. I watched that shotgun blast. I saw my trooper go backwards,” the agency’s top cop, Col. Michael Edmonson, said at a press conference late Sunday. The footage is not expected to be released in the immediate future.

Then, the suspect — still holding the shotgun — allegedly paced around the roadway and asked the motorists if Vincent was still alive.

Daigle leaned over Vincent, laying wounded on the ground, and told him, “You’re lucky you’re going to die,” officials said.

That’s when a couple of passing drivers pulled over to help the wounded trooper — and take down the man suspected of shooting him.

“They stopped to help my trooper and I will never forget that,” Edmonson said. “I was pretty proud of them.”

Vincent was airlifted to a local hospital. As of Sunday night, he was in critical, but stable condition.

“The gunshot wound to his head messed up his neurological output. Simply as I can put it, his brain is not telling his body what to do,” Edmonson told reporters.

Edmonson has stayed by Vincent’s side to comfort the trooper’s wife and family since the shooting. The couple has a 9-year-old son, he said.

“I held his hand with his wife and I just prayed,” Edmonson said. “I didn’t know what else to do.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/passing-motorists-shooter-attacked-la-trooper-article-1.2335035
 
Good for them. They should've booted the POS in the face a few dozen times for good measure.

 
This country needs to wake and start dishing out swift justice. Texas can make a real statement and try this guy this week, exhaust all appeals within another week and execute this POS. No reason any appeal should last more than a minute in court so they could whip right thru the appeals process and get right to work eliminating this turd from society.

 
I think the anti-police rhetoric has run it's course. Let's get back to our senses.
There's plenty of bad citizens. There's plenty of bad guy cops. I don't see why we have to pick to be pro-police or anti-police. The majority of shootings on both sides are totally unnecessary but when a cop does something bad other cops shouldn't be covering it up so I'm not jumping on the pro-police schtick they want back which to many of them means they can go around shooting and beating whoever they want with no repercussions.

 
I think the anti-police rhetoric has run it's course. Let's get back to our senses.
There's plenty of bad citizens. There's plenty of bad guy cops. I don't see why we have to pick to be pro-police or anti-police. The majority of shootings on both sides are totally unnecessary but when a cop does something bad other cops shouldn't be covering it up so I'm not jumping on the pro-police schtick they want back which to many of them means they can go around shooting and beating whoever they want with no repercussions.
Because sweeping generalizations of police being bad have resulted in executions. If a police officer acts inappropriately, concentrate on that incident. The pendulum has swung too far and will be coming back.
 
I think the anti-police rhetoric has run it's course. Let's get back to our senses.
There's plenty of bad citizens. There's plenty of bad guy cops. I don't see why we have to pick to be pro-police or anti-police. The majority of shootings on both sides are totally unnecessary but when a cop does something bad other cops shouldn't be covering it up so I'm not jumping on the pro-police schtick they want back which to many of them means they can go around shooting and beating whoever they want with no repercussions.
Because sweeping generalizations of police being bad have resulted in executions. If a police officer acts inappropriately, concentrate on that incident. The pendulum has swung too far and will be coming back.
Well no one is condoning the guy shooting the officer in Texas but I'm not ready to say society should blindly assume cops should do whatever the F they want to do (like most cops they have the authority to do). If cops want respect, then treat society with respect. Don't target people based on race or other factors. Don't coverup crimes by other cops. Don't put themselves above the law.

Curious how you think the pendelum will be coming back. Cops going to start shooting more people again?

 
Enough is enough. It's about time we, as Americans, be a world leader and borrow the idea of what Australia did. Ban all guns and get rid of them. It may take ten years to round them up, since we are larger than Australia, but it's about time we eliminate the tool that causes this stuff.

Blah, blah, blah, 2nd Amendment. It can and needs to be changed/reexamined.

 
Enough is enough. It's about time we, as Americans, be a world leader and borrow the idea of what Australia did. Ban all guns and get rid of them. It may take ten years to round them up, since we are larger than Australia, but it's about time we eliminate the tool that causes this stuff.

Blah, blah, blah, 2nd Amendment. It can and needs to be changed/reexamined.
LOL- So, say you get ALL the guns(again lol), thugs would then use crossbows. I'd rather be shot than hit with an arrow..

 
Enough is enough. It's about time we, as Americans, be a world leader and borrow the idea of what Australia did. Ban all guns and get rid of them. It may take ten years to round them up, since we are larger than Australia, but it's about time we eliminate the tool that causes this stuff.

Blah, blah, blah, 2nd Amendment. It can and needs to be changed/reexamined.
LOL- So, say you get ALL the guns(again lol), thugs would then use crossbows. I'd rather be shot than hit with an arrow..
Let's see a crossbower take out 20 kids in 5 minutes.

Not gonna happen... ever. Your analogy is LOL.

 
I think the anti-police rhetoric has run it's course. Let's get back to our senses.
There's plenty of bad citizens. There's plenty of bad guy cops. I don't see why we have to pick to be pro-police or anti-police. The majority of shootings on both sides are totally unnecessary but when a cop does something bad other cops shouldn't be covering it up so I'm not jumping on the pro-police schtick they want back which to many of them means they can go around shooting and beating whoever they want with no repercussions.
Because sweeping generalizations of police being bad have resulted in executions. If a police officer acts inappropriately, concentrate on that incident. The pendulum has swung too far and will be coming back.
Well no one is condoning the guy shooting the officer in Texas but I'm not ready to say society should blindly assume cops should do whatever the F they want to do (like most cops they have the authority to do). If cops want respect, then treat society with respect. Don't target people based on race or other factors. Don't coverup crimes by other cops. Don't put themselves above the law.Curious how you think the pendelum will be coming back. Cops going to start shooting more people again?
People will read or hear ridiculous hyperbole like you posted and pay it no attention. The people who used to have sympathy to that way of thinking will realize you can't judge an entire profession based on the actions of small percentage. That police have a dangerous job, go to work try and help people, and like it or not, deserve respect.
 
http://www.eurweb.com/2015/08/shannon-j-miles-arrested-as-suspect-in-killing-of-texas-deputy/

Hickman said Goforth was apparently singled out only because he was wearing the uniform of a law enforcement officer. The sheriff made it clear he felt the shooting was tied to a national backlash over several recent killings of unarmed black people by police officers.

“When rhetoric ramps up to the point where cold-blooded assassination has happened, this rhetoric has gotten out of control,” he said. “We heard ‘black lives matter.’ All lives matter. Well, cops’ lives matter too, so why don’t we drop the qualifier and say ‘lives matter’ and take that to the bank.”
I wonder if the accused will be charged with a "hate crime"? Probably not. He isn't the right color.

 
I think the anti-police rhetoric has run it's course. Let's get back to our senses.
There's plenty of bad citizens. There's plenty of bad guy cops. I don't see why we have to pick to be pro-police or anti-police. The majority of shootings on both sides are totally unnecessary but when a cop does something bad other cops shouldn't be covering it up so I'm not jumping on the pro-police schtick they want back which to many of them means they can go around shooting and beating whoever they want with no repercussions.
Because sweeping generalizations of police being bad have resulted in executions. If a police officer acts inappropriately, concentrate on that incident. The pendulum has swung too far and will be coming back.
Well no one is condoning the guy shooting the officer in Texas but I'm not ready to say society should blindly assume cops should do whatever the F they want to do (like most cops they have the authority to do). If cops want respect, then treat society with respect. Don't target people based on race or other factors. Don't coverup crimes by other cops. Don't put themselves above the law.Curious how you think the pendelum will be coming back. Cops going to start shooting more people again?
People will read or hear ridiculous hyperbole like you posted and pay it no attention. The people who used to have sympathy to that way of thinking will realize you can't judge an entire profession based on the actions of small percentage. That police have a dangerous job, go to work try and help people, and like it or not, deserve respect.
Works both ways. Just giving you the same ridiculous hyperbole but on the other side. All cops aren't interested in helping people. All cops don't deserve respect. I doubt the black community starts respecting cops anytime soon until cops stop targeting them and killing them.

 
I think the anti-police rhetoric has run it's course. Let's get back to our senses.
There's plenty of bad citizens. There's plenty of bad guy cops. I don't see why we have to pick to be pro-police or anti-police. The majority of shootings on both sides are totally unnecessary but when a cop does something bad other cops shouldn't be covering it up so I'm not jumping on the pro-police schtick they want back which to many of them means they can go around shooting and beating whoever they want with no repercussions.
Because sweeping generalizations of police being bad have resulted in executions. If a police officer acts inappropriately, concentrate on that incident. The pendulum has swung too far and will be coming back.
Well no one is condoning the guy shooting the officer in Texas but I'm not ready to say society should blindly assume cops should do whatever the F they want to do (like most cops they have the authority to do). If cops want respect, then treat society with respect. Don't target people based on race or other factors. Don't coverup crimes by other cops. Don't put themselves above the law.Curious how you think the pendelum will be coming back. Cops going to start shooting more people again?
People will read or hear ridiculous hyperbole like you posted and pay it no attention. The people who used to have sympathy to that way of thinking will realize you can't judge an entire profession based on the actions of small percentage. That police have a dangerous job, go to work try and help people, and like it or not, deserve respect.
Works both ways. Just giving you the same ridiculous hyperbole but on the other side. All cops aren't interested in helping people. All cops don't deserve respect. I doubt the black community starts respecting cops anytime soon until cops stop targeting them and killing them.
Unfortunately, the areas where most the murders and crimes occur just happen to occur in areas with heavy populations of blacks. So it is a two way street. Reduce the crime rate in those neighborhoods and reduce the 'targeting'.

 
Enough is enough. It's about time we, as Americans, be a world leader and borrow the idea of what Australia did. Ban all guns and get rid of them. It may take ten years to round them up, since we are larger than Australia, but it's about time we eliminate the tool that causes this stuff.

Blah, blah, blah, 2nd Amendment. It can and needs to be changed/reexamined.
LOL- So, say you get ALL the guns(again lol), thugs would then use crossbows. I'd rather be shot than hit with an arrow..
Let's see a crossbower take out 20 kids in 5 minutes.

Not gonna happen... ever. Your analogy is LOL.
Mentally ill people determined to kill will always find an way to carry out the act. Maybe they use explosives (Boston), or a vehicle as a weapon. While guns may be an element of the problem, it's not the source. Address the source and the rest will take care of itself.

 
Enough is enough. It's about time we, as Americans, be a world leader and borrow the idea of what Australia did. Ban all guns and get rid of them. It may take ten years to round them up, since we are larger than Australia, but it's about time we eliminate the tool that causes this stuff.

Blah, blah, blah, 2nd Amendment. It can and needs to be changed/reexamined.
Because criminals would automatically give up their guns because you said so. Stupid is cute but only when you are young.

 
Enough is enough. It's about time we, as Americans, be a world leader and borrow the idea of what Australia did. Ban all guns and get rid of them. It may take ten years to round them up, since we are larger than Australia, but it's about time we eliminate the tool that causes this stuff.

Blah, blah, blah, 2nd Amendment. It can and needs to be changed/reexamined.
Because criminals would automatically give up their guns because you said so. Stupid is cute but only when you are young.
Um, it would take time to get of them but they could be gotten rid of. Where there is a will, there is a way. It's sad the will of the people is not there to change this and instead keep the same rhetoric going.

 
Enough is enough. It's about time we, as Americans, be a world leader and borrow the idea of what Australia did. Ban all guns and get rid of them. It may take ten years to round them up, since we are larger than Australia, but it's about time we eliminate the tool that causes this stuff.

Blah, blah, blah, 2nd Amendment. It can and needs to be changed/reexamined.
Because criminals would automatically give up their guns because you said so. Stupid is cute but only when you are young.
Um, it would take time to get of them but they could be gotten rid of. Where there is a will, there is a way. It's sad the will of the people is not there to change this and instead keep the same rhetoric going.
Impossible. I know multiple people that have guns that are not registered. People in this country have had too much time to prepare for the possibility of a change in laws.

 
This topic is one of many that exemplifies why I hate politics and political parties. It's insane we aren't doing something about guns and gun violence. I'm not smart enough to know what the something is but I am smart enough to know that our inaction is beyond ridiculous.

 
This topic is one of many that exemplifies why I hate politics and political parties. It's insane we aren't doing something about guns and gun violence. I'm not smart enough to know what the something is but I am smart enough to know that our inaction is beyond ridiculous.
What makes you think the politicians are smarter than you?

 
I think the anti-police rhetoric has run it's course. Let's get back to our senses.
There's plenty of bad citizens. There's plenty of bad guy cops. I don't see why we have to pick to be pro-police or anti-police. The majority of shootings on both sides are totally unnecessary but when a cop does something bad other cops shouldn't be covering it up so I'm not jumping on the pro-police schtick they want back which to many of them means they can go around shooting and beating whoever they want with no repercussions.
Because sweeping generalizations of police being bad have resulted in executions. If a police officer acts inappropriately, concentrate on that incident. The pendulum has swung too far and will be coming back.
Well no one is condoning the guy shooting the officer in Texas but I'm not ready to say society should blindly assume cops should do whatever the F they want to do (like most cops they have the authority to do). If cops want respect, then treat society with respect. Don't target people based on race or other factors. Don't coverup crimes by other cops. Don't put themselves above the law.Curious how you think the pendelum will be coming back. Cops going to start shooting more people again?
People will read or hear ridiculous hyperbole like you posted and pay it no attention. The people who used to have sympathy to that way of thinking will realize you can't judge an entire profession based on the actions of small percentage. That police have a dangerous job, go to work try and help people, and like it or not, deserve respect.
Works both ways. Just giving you the same ridiculous hyperbole but on the other side. All cops aren't interested in helping people. All cops don't deserve respect. I doubt the black community starts respecting cops anytime soon until cops stop targeting them and killing them.
Unfortunately, the areas where most the murders and crimes occur just happen to occur in areas with heavy populations of blacks. So it is a two way street. Reduce the crime rate in those neighborhoods and reduce the 'targeting'.
So all blacks look like criminals then? I guess since it's cops in uniforms that are shooting unarmed black people then black people should assume all cops are out to kill them and proceed accordingly to save their own lives? If cops don't like it then clean up their own act. See how ridiculous we all sound when we paint with a broad brush?

 

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