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Another Salisbury Controversy? (1 Viewer)

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"On Monday's edition of "NFL Live" on ESPN, analyst Sean Salisbury made what I hope was just a massively unfortunate slip of the tongue when talking about Peyton Manning's 2nd half performance against the Patriots. Here's what actually came out of Salisbury's mouth:

"I saw a calmness about him. We've always known he's a great player, but a calmness that said, 'You know what, no need to panic. We'll nip, we'll tuck, we'll go, we'll crunch, we'll Jew, we'll do it all.' And he nickeled and dimed 'em, and Peyton made the play when it mattered."

ESPN's official position is that Salisbury said "chew," but you can hear the audio here, via Pro Football Talk, and to me, that sounds more like a "J" sound than a "ch" sound.

I'm not entirely sure what it would mean to "Jew" your way down the field (of course, I don't know how you "chew" your way down the field, either), but I hope it's not some kind of NFL locker-room lingo that ties into a stereotype that might also have to do with "nickel and diming."

And it's also entirely possible that it was one of those things where you mean to say one thing, and another comes out, or you're thinking of two different words, and what actually comes out of your mouth is a hybrid of the two. People misspeak all the time, and Salisbury should probably get the benefit of the doubt and a chance to explain himself before he gets labeled an anti-Semite."

http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/01/23/se...S00010000000001

Did Salisbury screw up on national TV? Will ESPN defend him again?

Personally, saying "Jew your way down the field," followed up by "nickel-and-diming" makes it hard to believe ESPN's side, and once you listen to the audio, it seems pretty clear he said "jew."

AS a member of the tribe, I'd like to believe he made a slip of the tongue, but I just don't buy it.

I apologize if this was posted anywhere before on this board, but I did a search and found nothing.

 
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"On Monday's edition of "NFL Live" on ESPN, analyst Sean Salisbury made what I hope was just a massively unfortunate slip of the tongue when talking about Peyton Manning's 2nd half performance against the Patriots. Here's what actually came out of Salisbury's mouth:

"I saw a calmness about him. We've always known he's a great player, but a calmness that said, 'You know what, no need to panic. We'll nip, we'll tuck, we'll go, we'll crunch, we'll Jew, we'll do it all.' And he nickeled and dimed 'em, and Peyton made the play when it mattered."

ESPN's official position is that Salisbury said "chew," but you can hear the audio here, via Pro Football Talk, and to me, that sounds more like a "J" sound than a "ch" sound.

I'm not entirely sure what it would mean to "Jew" your way down the field (of course, I don't know how you "chew" your way down the field, either), but I hope it's not some kind of NFL locker-room lingo that ties into a stereotype that might also have to do with "nickel and diming."

And it's also entirely possible that it was one of those things where you mean to say one thing, and another comes out, or you're thinking of two different words, and what actually comes out of your mouth is a hybrid of the two. People misspeak all the time, and Salisbury should probably get the benefit of the doubt and a chance to explain himself before he gets labeled an anti-Semite."

http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/01/23/se...S00010000000001

Did Salisbury screw up on national TV? Will ESPN defend him again?

Personally, saying "Jew your way down the field," followed up by "nickel-and-diming" makes it hard to believe ESPN's side, and once you listen to the audio, it seems pretty clear he said "jew."

AS a member of the tribe, I'd like to believe he made a slip of the tongue, but I just don't buy it.

I apologize if this was posted anywhere before on this board, but I did a search and found nothing.
:coffee: ;) he has already said wide eyed when talking about the patriots, specifically reche caldwell, not once but twice. awesome.

 
I don't think this is forum worthy. Sean Salisbury is not an "anti-semite". Also, you know stereotypes usually have some truth to them. I know I've been "nickled and dimed" by a "tribe" of jews before, and let me tell you it hurt.

Weirdo.

 
I'm not entirely sure what it would mean to "Jew" your way down the field (of course, I don't know how you "chew" your way down the field, either), but I hope it's not some kind of NFL locker-room lingo that ties into a stereotype that might also have to do with "nickel and diming."
:own3d: Crunch and chew sounds perfectly normal to me. Not in that context, but if he mentions crunch, it seems far more likely that he would use a related word instead of a religious one. Example: "I crunch and chew my cereal" Example: "I crunch and Jew my cereal"If you're :shuked: then your parents never loved you.
 
I'm not entirely sure what it would mean to "Jew" your way down the field (of course, I don't know how you "chew" your way down the field, either), but I hope it's not some kind of NFL locker-room lingo that ties into a stereotype that might also have to do with "nickel and diming."
:own3d: Crunch and chew sounds perfectly normal to me. Not in that context, but if he mentions crunch, it seems far more likely that he would use a related word instead of a religious one. Example: "I crunch and chew my cereal" Example: "I crunch and Jew my cereal"If you're :shuked: then your parents never loved you.
It's pretty obvious what he meant to say, you know crunch and chew your way down the field... Eating up yards... But this guy here just wants to be offended so he has something to cry about on his lame little blog. I feel sorry for people like that.
 
This reminds me of Annie Hall when Alvie thinks everyone is an anti-Semite. I paraphrase here:

ALVIE: "He's an anti-Semite. I heard him. He said to me 'Jew want to go to lunch.' Not 'Do you want to go to lunch?'"OTHER GUY: "Listen to yourself, Max. You're being paranoid."
So yeah. Listen to yourself Max. You're being paranoid.
 
Its just a good thing we're only talking about potentially slandering Jews, because if it was a similar slip of the tongue potentially slandering blacks he would be gone already.

 
He brewing He's brewing up another controversy.
That's just precious.Ever drink this?

I guess I can hear how it's possible to connect "Jewing down the field" with nickle-and-diming, though if you're less prone to find fault, crunch and chew make a bit mroe sense.

That said, as a Jew, while I might be offended if someone used the term "Jewed" or "Jewed down" to refer to obtaining a better bargain, it's hardly the worst slur I've heard, and in some ways, I'm quite proud that my people are known for being hard-nosed, knowing the value of a buck, and not letting others take advantage of them.

In the context in which Salisbury may have used it, it's even better! I'll bet there are 31 teams in the league who wish they could "Jew it down the field" as well as Manning's Colts! 'Jewing' as an expression of a succesful football offense? I nominate this as the least-offensive racial slur of all time!

 
So some of you believe that he DIDN'T say "jew"? :)

Seriously. The guy takes pictures of his #### (allegedly) and shows them to co-workers. Now he says Jew (followed immediately by the phrase "nicked-and-dimed"). Wake the hell up and quit apologizing or rationalizing for this guy.

ESPN should be embarrassed to have Sean Salisbury or Michael Irvin working for them as on air NFL commentators.

 
I didn't see it on the TV, but in context as quoted it sure looks like "juked" would be the appropriate word here, immediately following, and contrasting with, "crunch." I've never heard of anyone "jewing" their way down a football field. But a run into the line (crunch) followed by a misdirection play (juke) would make sense.

 
He brewing He's brewing up another controversy.
:lmao: I'm not sure that "Jewing" one's way down the field (even with "nickled and dimed" following) makes any more sense than "chewing" (even when preceded by "crunch").

At least he didn't say Peyton was using *** plays. :thumbup:

 
Seriously. The guy takes pictures of his #### (allegedly) and shows them to co-workers. Now he says Jew (followed immediately by the phrase "nicked-and-dimed"). Wake the hell up and quit apologizing or rationalizing for this guy.
The next logical step to this discussion is addressing the following poll question: is Sean Salisbury circumcised?
 
Seriously. The guy takes pictures of his #### (allegedly) and shows them to co-workers. Now he says Jew (followed immediately by the phrase "nicked-and-dimed"). Wake the hell up and quit apologizing or rationalizing for this guy.
The next logical step to this discussion is addressing the following poll question: is Sean Salisbury circumcised?
:shrug: That was funnyThis was not. (slowed down audio of Salisbury clearly saying "jew".

 
I'm not entirely sure what it would mean to "Jew" your way down the field (of course, I don't know how you "chew" your way down the field, either), but I hope it's not some kind of NFL locker-room lingo that ties into a stereotype that might also have to do with "nickel and diming."
:shrug: Crunch and chew sounds perfectly normal to me. Not in that context, but if he mentions crunch, it seems far more likely that he would use a related word instead of a religious one.

Example: "I crunch and chew my cereal"

Example: "I crunch and Jew my cereal"

If you're :shuked: then your parents never loved you.
:D :lmao: I personally think you're reading too much into this. "Jew" your way down field? WTF could that mean?

To Jew. Is that a verb or an adverb? :lmao:

 
To Jew. Is that a verb or an adverb? :shock:
. . . that is the question —Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,

Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,

And by opposing, end them. To die, to sleep —

No more; and by a sleep to say we end

The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks

That flesh is heir to — 'tis a consummation

Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep —

To sleep, perchance to dream. Ay, there's the rub, . . .

We would appear to be having trouble getting past the whole Salisbury showing his junk off . . . :thumbup:

 
I have a serious dislike for Sean Salisbury and would love nothing more than for him to crawl back under the rock he scampered out from under...BUT, I think he said CHEW; and think the tinfoil hat conspiricists need to find another tree to bark up.

 
To Jew. Is that a verb or an adverb? :shock:
. . . that is the question —Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,

Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,

And by opposing, end them. To die, to sleep —

No more; and by a sleep to say we end

The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks

That flesh is heir to — 'tis a consummation

Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep —

To sleep, perchance to dream. Ay, there's the rub, . . .

We would appear to be having trouble getting past the whole Salisbury showing his junk off . . . :thumbup:
Always loved Hamlet....Frailty thy name is Salsbury

 
You guys make it sound like he got a bone from some whitefish stuck in his throat and went on some anti-semetic diatribe.

 
I'm not entirely sure what it would mean to "Jew" your way down the field (of course, I don't know how you "chew" your way down the field, either), but I hope it's not some kind of NFL locker-room lingo that ties into a stereotype that might also have to do with "nickel and diming."
:banned: Crunch and chew sounds perfectly normal to me. Not in that context, but if he mentions crunch, it seems far more likely that he would use a related word instead of a religious one.

Example: "I crunch and chew my cereal"

Example: "I crunch and Jew my cereal"

If you're :shuked: then your parents never loved you.
:D :lmao: I personally think you're reading too much into this. "Jew" your way down field? WTF could that mean?

To Jew. Is that a verb or an adverb? :shock:
Havent heard the audio so cant really judge, but it would be hard to believe he said "Jew your way" down the field.That said, "to Jew" can be a deragotory term that means to be cheap, to cheat someone, something along those lines.

So there is a logical premise that "jewing down the field" could be a way of saying "they are taking cheap little plays nothing special" aka nickel and diming.

That said, it seems quite a stretch but I have to hear it first and soundcard is f'd on this laptop.

 
I am absolutely amazed that anyone hears anything other than "Jew" there. Go get a Q-Tip, stick it in your ears, and then listen to it again if you think you heard otherwise. He CLEARLY said "Jew."

 
I didn't see it on the TV, but in context as quoted it sure looks like "juked" would be the appropriate word here, immediately following, and contrasting with, "crunch." I've never heard of anyone "jewing" their way down a football field. But a run into the line (crunch) followed by a misdirection play (juke) would make sense.
:D Can't remember the last time ANYONE EVER "Jewed their way down a football field". C'mon who says that? Many of the ESPN talking heads are strong personalities and VERY opinionated, which cause a 'lightning rod' type reaction where many sportsfans can't stand them. As far as behind the scenes misconduct, I've never before heard of Sean allegedly taking snapshots :pickle: of 'Mr. Happy' to work with him. I find that to be hard to believe, especially since there are actually women working at ESPN and even though we've heard about ESPN's Ex-athletes having run-ins with the law (usually involving illegal drugs), I've never heard even a hint of any kind of sexual harassment... Maybe some of you are getting your cable/satellite TV personalities confused and are really thinking of Bill O'Reilly over at FOX, now that guy or possibly a Bill Maher taking pix of private parts wouldn't shock me in the least.BTW Sean Salisbury is on ESPN radio on a regular basis with Mike GREENBERG, and is co-host of a weekday sportstalk show in Chicago. His co-host on the daily radio show is Steve ROSENBLOOM. As soon as Greenberg and Rosenbloom get upset about this, then I'll actually pay some attention to this silliness.That is all :pickle:
 
If it gets him off Chicago sportsradio, then I think he said it.

This news story indicates his days may be numbered:

Waddle ending long run on WGN

Former Bear could switch to WMVP

Ed Sherman

On Sports Media and Golf

January 25, 2007

Tom Waddle is leaving WGN-AM 720, probably for WMVP-AM 1000.

The former Bears receiver will end his 10-year association with David Kaplan on their 7-9 p.m. "Sports Central" show after the Super Bowl.

WGN station manager Bob Shomper sent a memo to the staff Wednesday night, saying Waddle is "exploring an opportunity that will, among other things, allow him to spend more time with his family."

According to sources, Waddle is in talks with WMVP. If a deal falls into place, he likely would be placed in WMVP's 9 a.m.-noon slot. The station trails WSCR-AM 670 by a considerable margin during that period.

What that means to incumbents Sean Salisbury and Steve Rosenbloom remains to be seen. But one of them could be out.

Waddle has emerged as one of the most popular sports personalities in town since hanging up his helmet. In addition to his WGN duties, he also has a regular role on WFLD-Ch. 32.

Shomper's memo said Kaplan would continue to be host for "Sports Central," likely in a solo role.

"This presents a great opportunity for 'Kap' to build on the rich tradition of 'Sports Central' and he is looking forward to it," the memo said.

His side

Salisbury felt compelled to defend himself Wednesday after Internet bloggers suggested he made an anti-Semitic remark in talking about Peyton Manning on ESPN on Sunday.

Describing Manning's calmness in the second half, Salisbury said, "No need to panic. We'll nip. We'll tuck. We'll go. We'll crunch."

Salisbury maintains he next said, "We'll chew. We'll do it all and they nickel and dimed them and Peyton made the plays when it mattered."

However, some bloggers allege instead of saying, "We'll chew," Salisbury said, "We'll Jew."

Salisbury gave a passionate denial that he made any slur during his radio show Wednesday. Then later in an interview, he again wanted to make sure nothing was left open to interpretation.

"I said crunch and chew," Salisbury said. "I don't know where a Jewish comment would have any place in talking about a quarterback driving down the field. If a blogger heard what he wanted to hear, there's nothing I could do about that. But I didn't say anything remotely close."

Salisbury, an 11-year veteran of ESPN, said he spoke out because he was upset about any inferences being made about his character.

"People who know me know when it comes to religion, race, color, sexual preference, those things don't matter to me," Salisbury said. "At some point you've got to defend yourself. We've all made mistakes, but that wasn't a mistake."

 
Seriously. The guy takes pictures of his #### (allegedly) and shows them to co-workers. Now he says Jew (followed immediately by the phrase "nicked-and-dimed"). Wake the hell up and quit apologizing or rationalizing for this guy.
The next logical step to this discussion is addressing the following poll question: is Sean Salisbury circumcised?
:lmao: That was funnyThis was not. (slowed down audio of Salisbury clearly saying "jew".
:cry: Was this played back in reverse?
 
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Let me stary by saying that I don't think this is a big deal at all.

Having said that, he CLEARLY said "Jew". I feel like most of you commenting on it here have not seen/heard what he said. It really was as clear as day. Take that in conjunction with the next two thinks out of his mouth being "nickel and dime" them and it's even more obvious.

 
Z-Dog said:
I wonder what the reaction would have been if he said they just muslimed their way down the field?

:P
I think the defenses would try to Hindu er hinder them.In a related note Sewart Scott stated Koby Bryant has been known to sneak up Baha`i young woman.

 
Sometimes, I mispronounce words when speaking too quickly. It seems to happen to everybody. Even if he said Jew rather than chew, it probably was just a mistake. He probably wasn't even thinking "Jew".

At the Bears game last Sunday, when the Bears got the safety, I was so fired up when the play was happening that I couldn't speak fast enough. I yelled out, "That's intentional goaltending!" rather than "intentional grounding". Both guys next to me laughed and corrected me. S*** happens. Let it go.

 
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Sometimes, I mispronounce words when speaking too quickly. It seems to happen to everybody. Even if he said Jew rather than chew, it probably was just a mistake. He probably wasn't even thinking "Jew".At the Bears game last Sunday, when the Bears got the safety, I was so fired up when the play was happening that I couldn't speak fast enough. I yelled out, "That's intentional goaltending!" rather than "intentional grounding". Both guys next to me laughed and corrected me. S*** happens. Let it go.
So in this case, you think he accidentally said "Jew" and then coincidentally said next "nickel and dime them"?
 
Let me stary by saying that I don't think this is a big deal at all.

Having said that, he CLEARLY said "Jew". I feel like most of you commenting on it here have not seen/heard what he said. It really was as clear as day. Take that in conjunction with the next two thinks out of his mouth being "nickel and dime" them and it's even more obvious.
I agree -- I don't believe Salisbury had any malicious intent at all with what he said, if he indeed said it (which I think he did). But I'm sure, as a former NFL QB in a league that uhhhh, doesn't have too many jewish players and thus could have many people ignorant of the term's derogatory nature, this term to mean "yards in small chunks" clearly plays into his next sentence.And it's not as if smarter people haven't made the same mistake, not realizing the term was insensitive. Take this Ohio politician from a couple of years ago:

"Ohio Senate President Doug White admitted making an anti-Semitic remark at a Cleveland event recently but said he apologized to state Jewish leaders after he realized that some in the audience found it offensive.

"The comment was a very offhand one that I had no knowledge of its sensitivity. It's one I've used very seldom in my life," said Mr. White, a Republican from Manchester.

At a Cleveland fund-raiser before the Nov. 5 election, Mr. White used the expression "we need to Jew them down," which many Jewish people find objectionable and based on an offensive stereotype."

I like Salisbury, and I hope he makes it through this.

 
Sometimes, I mispronounce words when speaking too quickly. It seems to happen to everybody. Even if he said Jew rather than chew, it probably was just a mistake. He probably wasn't even thinking "Jew".At the Bears game last Sunday, when the Bears got the safety, I was so fired up when the play was happening that I couldn't speak fast enough. I yelled out, "That's intentional goaltending!" rather than "intentional grounding". Both guys next to me laughed and corrected me. S*** happens. Let it go.
So in this case, you think he accidentally said "Jew" and then coincidentally said next "nickel and dime them"?
Yes, it seems the most likely explanation to me. It makes sense when these two phrases are said together - "we'll crunch, we'll chew" - which he did.
 
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I love how ProFootballTalk screws up all the time, yet they are highly critical when someone in the media slips up. I don't really think Sallisbury is worth defending, but PFT are the biggest hypocrites in the quasi-reporting industry. My favorites come from their unnamed sources that create quotes to specially fit all of PFT's theories.

 
While listening to the Beatles...

I Want You (She's So Heavy)

I clearly heard Paul McCartney

say, "I want jew".

--------------------------------------

Ease up on the paranoia. :yawn:

 
Everyone is an anti-semite according to some people. This is ridiculous. I can't believe I wasted my time reading this topic.

 
trader jake said:
So some of you believe that he DIDN'T say "jew"? :goodposting: Seriously. The guy takes pictures of his #### (allegedly) and shows them to co-workers. Now he says Jew (followed immediately by the phrase "nicked-and-dimed"). Wake the hell up and quit apologizing or rationalizing for this guy.ESPN should be embarrassed to have Sean Salisbury or Michael Irvin working for them as on air NFL commentators.
The real question here is: Are you desparate for attention? I didn't even listen to the clip, it's a non-issue though. So what if is ignorant... woo hoo. Most people are ignorant about one thing or another.
 
Yeah seriously this thread needs to die. By making this thread you just perpetuate the stereotype that Jews complain too much! :thumbup:

 

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