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Anquan Boldin the next Moss (1 Viewer)

OK, so now we need to know...did you draft him, SWITZ? If so, nice grab. If you did draft him, did you play him in Week 1? If you did that, I'll be the deacon of our newly founded religion, SWITZISM!!!!!

 
What are you guys on??? It has to be some good stuff for this thread to start movin. Let's look at some facts here:1. No one had him on the radar to draft? Why? Because no one stepped up in Arizona in preason. He was listed as the #3 WR.2. It's the Detroit defense. Not exactly show stoppers.3. It's one game. There is no evidence that this is going to be the breakout year. Even more so because Blake is throwing and they have no ####### run game. Call me a doubter, but I say it's a one week wonder.

 
OK, so now we need to know...did you draft him, SWITZ? If so, nice grab. If you did draft him, did you play him in Week 1? If you did that, I'll be the deacon of our newly founded religion, SWITZISM!!!!!
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Did I draft him, yes.Did I start him? No. I started Harrison and KRob.Do I think he'll have another 200+ yard game next week, no, but I do feel he's the real deal.
 
OK, so now we need to know...did you draft him, SWITZ? If so, nice grab. If you did draft him, did you play him in Week 1? If you did that, I'll be the deacon of our newly founded religion, SWITZISM!!!!!
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Did I draft him, yes.Did I start him? No. I started Harrison and KRob.Do I think he'll have another 200+ yard game next week, no, but I do feel he's the real deal.
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Thank SWITZ...er GOD, I didn't know how I'd explain quitting my job and turning our garage into your mecca to my wife.Again, nice sleeper/flier pick. He wasn't on my board. I do like his upside IF he becomes THE target in Arizona. Contrary to what some may think, I believe Jeff Blake can still throw the ball (only sometimes it goes to the wrong team). But he will need to throw the ball a lot down there in the desert and somebody will be on the receiving end. Hopefully for you, that end equals Boldin. I don't have room on my rosters to make this move because of my own sleeper/flier WR choices. But I'll remember this post if/when Boldin becomes a 1000 yd. 6 TD receiver this year. I'd have to say I still think that is a stretch, and that there are 3-4 other rookie WRs who have a better chance than him this year and their chances are slim to none. Again, hopefully for you and the others quickly dropping the T. Pinkstons or Q. Morgans for A. Boldin, you are on the right track here.
 
I think the best thing we can conclude from the Detriot/AZ game yesterday is that every owner should start their QB or WR's when playing Detroit. That secondary was horrible!! :thumbdown:

 
I don't have room on my rosters to make this move because of my own sleeper/flier WR choices. But I'll remember this post if/when Boldin becomes a 1000 yd. 6 TD receiver this year. I'd have to say I still think that is a stretch, and that there are 3-4 other rookie WRs who have a better chance than him this year and their chances are slim to none. Again, hopefully for you and the others quickly dropping the T. Pinkstons or Q. Morgans for A. Boldin, you are on the right track here.
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the sad thing is for him to become a 1000 yard/6td receiver, he'd only need 783 yds and 4 TD's in the next 15 games, not saying that is a given.... but he's got a nice head start towards it
 
Normally, I think "I told you so" bumps are lame.In this case, I'll make an exception.Switz, you are the man. Who's the next Warner?

 
Boldin won't surprise anyone, now ... and he won't play the Detroit D every week ... and he is listed as ARI's #3. So let's not get TOO excited yet.But props to him for a great game!

 
Great game for sure, but he still has a LONG way to go to be the "next" anything. I like his game, but even if they make him the #1 overnight, the Cards are still a bad team with a TE that will vulture some catches.I think Boldin played well, but Charlie Rogers showing a nose for the endzone and Andre Johnson playing well against a (supposedly) tough D were also good games.HERD

 
Just finished reading the whole thread. Switz certainly reached into his hat and pulled out one heck of a rabbit with that early-August call. Kudos!

And speaking of the Lions' weak secondary...I can hardly wait for the real Randy Moss to line up against 'em (twice! :excited: ) this season. Add a couple games against Chicago, one more against the Pack, and I'm salivating :P at the fantasy points potential. (Maybe Moss will be the next A. Boldin...?)

 
What are you guys on??? It has to be some good stuff for this thread to start movin. Let's look at some facts here:1. No one had him on the radar to draft? Why? Because no one stepped up in Arizona in preason. He was listed as the #3 WR.2. It's the Detroit defense. Not exactly show stoppers.3. It's one game. There is no evidence that this is going to be the breakout year. Even more so because Blake is throwing and they have no ####### run game. Call me a doubter, but I say it's a one week wonder.
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Did you even read this thread? It was posted August 14th, and Switz took quite a ballbusting for his most ballsy pick. The thread was not revived today by him, but it's a fun moment for the sole Anquan Boldin defender I heard of before about 4pm yesterday afternoon. Yes genius, we understand that this doesn't mean Boldin is money in the bank, but the sheer fact he was capable of a day like this means Switz was neither crazy or stupid, and he deserves his moment in the sun, whether it be just this week, or the rest of the season if Boldin pans out. But thanks for informing us that he might not do that all year, I didn't know that was possible. :rolleyes:
 
Moss 40 = 4.21Boldin 40 = 4.77I think that Boldin could be great, but not quite the same way Moss is. Slower 40 times don't mean you are a bad player (TO, SA, Rice, Eddie Mac) but i wouldn't compare Vick to Manning just as i wouldn't compare Moss to Boldin.

 
Props to Switz for having the sack to go out on a limb with this thread. Boldin may not have another 100+ yard game all year but he flashed big time ability in week one. He may be the next Randy Moss or the next Sylvester Morris but he certainly has long term potential.

 
Moss 40 = 4.21Boldin 40 = 4.77I think that Boldin could be great, but not quite the same way Moss is. Slower 40 times don't mean you are a bad player (TO, SA, Rice, Eddie Mac) but i wouldn't compare Vick to Manning just as i wouldn't compare Moss to Boldin.
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Apparently I overestimated the general intelligence on these boards. What is it you people don't understand about the figure of speech called the metaphor? Switz gets blasted repeatedly for making a comparison as if it were literal, a direct comparison to Randy Moss. It is clear from his original post that he was using the name "Randy Moss" as a generic term for "Stud WR". At least I thought it was.Props to you Switz. I only started on this forum last week, but posted a few times about the fact that Boldin would be number 1 in AZ by year's end. Never thought it would happen this quickly, though.
 
From KCC "If you honestly believe Boldin is the next Moss and will post similar rookie stats, you are fully entitled to that opinion and I defend your right to state it. However, I'm also fully entitled to say that it is one of the most (if not the most) ridiculous statement I have ever read on these boards.""Put down the crack pipe, Switz."From BigDaddyKane "Anquan Boldin, the next Randy Moss?! FBG at it's worst!"From BillyBarou "*Shaking head*Man, oh man, switz. You show such good knowledge of the game, and you really make powerful arguments in most cases...Then you take another bite of those mushrooms.This, gentlemen, is why hallucinogenics are illegal in the United States."------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------You fools now have 0 credibility here. I would guess guys like KCC, BigDaddy, and BillyBarou also took LT2 with their first pick. Just because FBG told them to. One of these days you sheep may come up with an original idea of your own. In the meantime I would suggest not bashing someone for giving out some serious insight/opinion.Major props switz! Even if Boldin fades away. Solid call on your part. Huevos...big huevos.

 
Moss 40 = 4.21Boldin 40 = 4.77I think that Boldin could be great, but not quite the same way Moss is. Slower 40 times don't mean you are a bad player (TO, SA, Rice, Eddie Mac) but i wouldn't compare Vick to Manning just as i wouldn't compare Moss to Boldin.
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Boldin ran in the 4.4 range before his knee injury. He is expected to get back most of his speed within the year and im sure he runs better than a 4.7 now.You can't look blindly at numbers without knowing the story behind them.
 
Maybe I'm the only one, but from watching the highlights he reminded me a bit of David Boston. He's a big guy who has kind of a lumbering running style. Granted, he's not as big and probably not as fast as Boston, but his hands and instincts might be better.

 
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no more of this 40 = 4.7 crap... Just because people read something, or its said once... why create a perception or believe it to be absolute truth. The fact is he ran a 4.7 on the day of the combine. Obviously on Sunday he ate his wheaties and the kid is capable of running faster than that. Watch for yourself... use your own brain... no more regurgitation of someone elses words. If you dug deeper you would realize he was capable of running 4.4X speed before an injury.That being said... I do believe its possible that defenses don't quite know who to zero in on for the Cardinals yet.. so, every other week we might see a guy put up good numbers because he is forgotten by the defense. Past that... I'm going to be the guy that takes action. Why not take a chance for greatness rather than sit back and analyze it to death while someone else potentially makes a move that wins their league or a future season (keeper).

 
What are you guys on??? It has to be some good stuff for this thread to start movin. Let's look at some facts here:1. No one had him on the radar to draft? Why? Because no one stepped up in Arizona in preason. He was listed as the #3 WR.2. It's the Detroit defense. Not exactly show stoppers.3. It's one game. There is no evidence that this is going to be the breakout year. Even more so because Blake is throwing and they have no ####### run game. Call me a doubter, but I say it's a one week wonder.
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Did you even read this thread? It was posted August 14th, and Switz took quite a ballbusting for his most ballsy pick. The thread was not revived today by him, but it's a fun moment for the sole Anquan Boldin defender I heard of before about 4pm yesterday afternoon. Yes genius, we understand that this doesn't mean Boldin is money in the bank, but the sheer fact he was capable of a day like this means Switz was neither crazy or stupid, and he deserves his moment in the sun, whether it be just this week, or the rest of the season if Boldin pans out. But thanks for informing us that he might not do that all year, I didn't know that was possible. :rolleyes:
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My bad, I thought this was posted after the first game. Switz I didn't realize you posted this before the season. I will give you Kudos on the naming before the first week. My opinion is that he is still not a Randy Moss, but I will eat my crow if it should be.Good call and good luck the rest of the season.As for freak, thanks for bringing it to my attention that it was posted before the season started.
 
no more of this 40 = 4.7 crap... Just because people read something, or its said once... why create a perception or believe it to be absolute truth. The fact is he ran a 4.7 on the day of the combine. Obviously on Sunday he ate his wheaties and the kid is capable of running faster than that. Watch for yourself... use your own brain... no more regurgitation of someone elses words. If you dug deeper you would realize he was capable of running 4.4X speed before an injury.That being said... I do believe its possible that defenses don't quite know who to zero in on for the Cardinals yet.. so, every other week we might see a guy put up good numbers because he is forgotten by the defense. Past that... I'm going to be the guy that takes action. Why not take a chance for greatness rather than sit back and analyze it to death while someone else potentially makes a move that wins their league or a future season (keeper).
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Edgerrin James posted 2 consecutive 2000 total yard seasons before injury. Willis McGahee ran a 4.28 before injury. Fact is that there is no guarantee that someone regains all there speed after injury (although Boldin sure did look impressive). I agree that 40 times are way to important to scout's nowadays, i merely used the times to illustrate the point that Boldin is not nearly as fast as Moss. I doubt that his speed would have improved since his on campus workout and the combine seeing as it had been nearly 2 years since his knee injury. If you read Switz's post it seems relatively clear to me that he is comparing him directly to Moss, every part except maybe the reciever comment. I'm not saying that Boldin won't be every bit as good as Moss, nor that he will be, i'm just trying to say the they are not all that similar as recievers.P.S. I am rather well-informed and interested with the NFL Draft. I have followed it closely for 3 years (not saying a whole lot but it's better than nothing) and I know that Boldin was projected by many as a mid to late 3rd rounder and it looks like the Cardinals must have seen something in him by taking him in the 2nd. It looks like they got a steal.
 
keep chasing last week's stats the question: will he be a consistent scorer? not this year. but he did look like young david boston

 
I must admit I read this post back in August and scoffed myself but did not comment. Now, after LT2, Jamal Lewis, and seemingly McNabb have all sucked for me this week, I have the first waiver wire pick and am seriously thinking of nabbing Boldin. Gotta do some research and crunch some numbers to be cap compliant should I take the guy, but I'm seriously considering it....MAD PROPS, SWITZ!! :yes: :thumbup:

 
Normally, I think "I told you so" bumps are lame.In this case, I'll make an exception.Switz, you are the man. Who's the next Warner?
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While I'm certainly no Switz...It does appear that the next Warner is BulgerBoldin may not yet be Moss. But it was reminiscent of Quincy Morgan's week one of 2002. All are "claim worthy"
 
i know switz.and you're no switz.
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Nope, I'm not. Just pointing out for eveyone slappin backs week 1 that he also called for Smith to be ROY. If it's too early to call O'Canada a bust it is too early to call Boldin the next Moss IMO. The dude had a hell of a game, no doubt. I have Boldin in 3 leagues, but in no way do I think he's the second coming of Moss or Rice.
 
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If you read Switz's post it seems relatively clear to me that he is comparing him directly to Moss, every part except maybe the reciever comment. I'm not saying that Boldin won't be every bit as good as Moss, nor that he will be, i'm just trying to say the they are not all that similar as recievers.P.S. I am rather well-informed and interested with the NFL Draft. I have followed it closely for 3 years (not saying a whole lot but it's better than nothing) and I know that Boldin was projected by many as a mid to late 3rd rounder and it looks like the Cardinals must have seen something in him by taking him in the 2nd. It looks like they got a steal.
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HammyVike,If you read my post, you will see I was comparing his situation with Moss' situation, not his talent with Moss' talent.I was using Moss as the superlative rookie STUD WR. I believe(d) Anquan Boldin can be the "next" Moss, as is "break out rookie WR"Also, if you follow the NFL Draft, as you say, you would have seen many felt Boldin could have been a late first rounder, and if he hadn't been injured quite likely would have been.Now you can believe whatever you want, and I took quite a beating for this thread in the first place, but hey that's what FF is about...
 
Nope, I'm not. Just pointing out for eveyone slappin backs week 1 that he also called for Smith to be ROY. If it's too early to call O'Canada a bust it is too early to call Boldin the next Moss IMO. The dude had a hell of a game, no doubt. I have Boldin in 3 leagues, but in no way do I think he's the second coming of Moss or Rice.
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You're quite correct in much of what you say. IMO the backslapping comes from the fact that Boldin wasn't even on anyone's radar, much less thought to have the talent to even come out with that type of game.It truly remains to be seen whether he can keep putting up solid numbers, much less super stud numbers. But he is in the perfect situation to do so.As for Onterrio, I was also quite vocal that I didn't expect him to start until week 4 or so.
 
Props to switz for a good call here. While I don't think Boldin will be a stud WR I can still be proved wrong. Teams will now gameplan for him and it will be different than what he saw in week 1, I think everyone agrees on that.On another note I think its kind of ridiculous that everyone is calling switz gutsy for making this call. FF is hit or miss, I'm sure switz has missed on just as many as he's hit, I just think its nuts to call someone gutsy for something like this.Gutsy would have been drafting him in a 8 team 14 round re-draft league.

 
Did I draft him, yes.Did I start him? No. I started Harrison and KRob.Do I think he'll have another 200+ yard game next week, no, but I do feel he's the real deal.
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The real deal? Now, or back when you were drafting for Halas?
 
Ok so if you had a choice of starting Boldin as a rookie with a totally new team or javon walker with the great Farve throwing to him (and only him since all other receivers are injured) What would you do?

 
from a dynasty point of view he could be a stud sometime in the future.. but as the seahawks and hamlin will show this weekend.. you need to score and gain yards to be a stud.. my week 2 projections for him..4catches,, 48yds, OTDS

 
Did I draft him, yes.Did I start him? No. I started Harrison and KRob.Do I think he'll have another 200+ yard game next week, no, but I do feel he's the real deal.
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The real deal? Now, or back when you were drafting for Halas?
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I wanted him in the Halas draft too... just didn't get him. :(
 
Time for a proper bump and maybe a reassessment of Boldin by some of FBGs best & brightest ;) .I'll admit when this was first posted I chuckled :bag: . Is he the next Moss??? No theres only one Moss but Boldin is for real.At the quarter pole for Arizona Boldin has set a new record for WR's for the 1st four games, 30-464. After his first game he has been pretty consistent in his performance.Game 1 10-217 2 8-62 3 5-99 4 7-86

 
I grabbed him after week 1 and he got his first start this week. I figured he could light up the Rams week secondary. If that line would've stood up a little better for Blake, he would've done better but Leonard Little and Grant Winstrom spent more time in the backfield than Emmitt Smith did. But I'm happy with 8 from the kid. Hell, he outperformed my stud, Coles who only got me 6. A combined 51 from LT and Lewis helps carry a team :thumbup: :yes: :thumbup: :yes: :thumbup: :yes: He helped me to my 3rd straight win and a tie for first (Actually I;m in the lead because I have the most total points). Not sure if I will be starting him next week. If Booker can show me something tonight, he might get a start next week against the Raiders....

 
Time for a proper bump and maybe a reassessment of Boldin by some of FBGs best & brightest ;) .I'll admit when this was first posted I chuckled :bag: . Is he the next Moss??? No theres only one Moss but Boldin is for real.
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Just thought I'd add to your reassessment. I know alot of people doubted after his 35 yd performance.But let's look at his pace now.Averaging 99 yards/game44 YAC/game10 targets/game4 catches/game.33 TD/gameIf ONLY they could get in the stinkin endzone!!As for ROY - Boldin I think right now is the hands down winner.Only TO has more targets, and only Harrison, Holt and Ward have more catches!He's on pace for 1578 yards and 5 TD
 
Boldin has been the SOD in my dynasty league where I got him at 20.09. After hearing the buzz on him and reading what the Cardinals were saying about him I thought he might surprise people and put up 700-900 yards. I never expected this, but I'll take it. The best news for me is that it looks like he isn't a fluke. He is a YAC monster due to his imposing size and physical style of play. He may not burn guys deep, but in 1 pt. per catch leagues like mine he has a big future.

 
As for ROY - Boldin I think right now is the hands down winner.
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Andre Johnson is right on his tail. If you prorate Johnson's stats over 6 games (he's played 5 to Boldin's 6), his numbers aren't that far off. I would give the nod to Boldin at this point, but I don't think this is a runaway by any means, and I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson has better numbers by the end of the season. Especially if Blake eventually finds the pine and Zona sees what they've got with McCown.
 
I think, in retrospect, its pretty clear Switz didn't know what he was talking about. :rolleyes: Kidding aside, do you think Boldin will clear 150 yards receiving again this year? It doesn't look likely, but I don't want to be the one to say he won't do it.

 
I think, in retrospect, its pretty clear Switz didn't know what he was talking about. :rolleyes: Kidding aside, do you think Boldin will clear 150 yards receiving again this year? It doesn't look likely, but I don't want to be the one to say he won't do it.
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what would make you say that he won't break 150? That's a lot of yards and I wouldn't bet the house on him doing it, but it's hardly unheard of and I don't see any good reason Boldin doesn't have as good a shot as most WRs to do it :confused:
 
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