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Antonio Cromartie = BOD (1 Viewer)

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Cromartie is one player that I hope WE DO NOT DRAFT.

1. There has been talk of him moving to WR, this talked has popped up VERY recently. There is a reason why this stuff starts.....

2. The guy have NEVER started more than one college game in his life.

3. The guy has not played football in 1 1/2 years. The guy hasn't played a down of ball in 1 1/2 years and even at that, he's never even played as a starter in more than one game in almost 3-4 years.....

4. An OT is A LOT different than a CB.

I've looked hard at AC, and I think there is something there that a lot of people are not seening.

Bowden has this guy AC, who's made some phenominal plays in limited time as a freshman and yet he still could not beat Bryant McFadden and some guy name leroy Smith for a starting spot in his sophmore year?

I have NO IDEA who this Smith dude is and McFadden was take 62nd overall, now how is a guy who could not take a starting job from a guy who was almost a 3rd rounder, a 1st round lock? or even that great of a player.

As a HC in college, you have a DUTY to put the best team/players on the field that you can. Cromartie was better than McFadden, so why was McFadden on the field instead, why the hell was this guy Leroy on the field and AC sitting on the bench?

I mean, look at Tedd Ginn Jr. The kid was on the field as much as possible as a frosh b/c he was so talened, with a guy who has the "supposed" talent that AC has, why in the WORLD would you not start him???

He's got problems, maybe he has large motivational issues, maybe he's just really stupid or maybe he simply can't take the punishment of a full 60 minutes game.

There is something wrong with this player.

I would MUCH rather take a Richard Marshall. He's not been injured, has been a starter for 2 years, is very intelligent. Is great in run support, probably the best run supporting CB in this draft.

 
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Cromartie was better than McFadden, so why was McFadden on the field instead, why the hell was this guy Leroy on the field and AC sitting on the bench?
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I haven't found a reasonable answer to this yet.
 
he will not be a bust, to much speed.

if he and Simms would of came back this year, FSU's DEF would of be he11

 
thanks for not citing katzenmoyer as an example :P [nevermind]

good post with solid rational. i happen to disagree primarily because of his desire to succeed and work ethic. those two things overcome a lot...and it doesn't hurt to have his natural ability and very few bad habits to coach out of him. from day 1 he'll contribute on special teams and once he gets up to speed on the playbook he should be a decent starter for multiple seasons

 
Only Bowden, or actually more likely Micky Andrews can answer your question about him starting. But do keep in mind that any DB for FSU is going to be pretty good and hard to beat out early in a career.

But that is a fair question. I will tell you that even with Sims, Bunkley, Wimderly, Watkins, etc.. Cromartie was considered by most FSU fans the best player on that defense before the injury. He was a game changer on the field and a very hard worker.

 
Only Bowden, or actually more likely Micky Andrews can answer your question about him starting. But do keep in mind that any DB for FSU is going to be pretty good and hard to beat out early in a career.

But that is a fair question. I will tell you that even with Sims, Bunkley, Wimderly, Watkins, etc.. Cromartie was considered by most FSU fans the best player on that defense before the injury. He was a game changer on the field and a very hard worker.
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See, that's the part I've never understood. His talent has been touted by everyone but yet he only started once. From what I've read he has done well when he played, but is Bowden really the type of coach to keep his best defensive player from starting? There's something missing here that I can't put a finger on.
 
Only Bowden, or actually more likely Micky Andrews can answer your question about him starting. But do keep in mind that any DB for FSU is going to be pretty good and hard to beat out early in a career.

But that is a fair question. I will tell you that even with Sims, Bunkley, Wimderly, Watkins, etc.. Cromartie was considered by most FSU fans the best player on that defense before the injury. He was a game changer on the field and a very hard worker.
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See, that's the part I've never understood. His talent has been touted by everyone but yet he only started once. From what I've read he has done well when he played, but is Bowden really the type of coach to keep his best defensive player from starting? There's something missing here that I can't put a finger on.
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He missed last year with the knee as everyone knows. Anyone here remember seeing him play? I sure do. I got it a "discussion" here with Wood for hyping Cromartie over Jimmy Williams... way back before Cromartie declared. He's awesome.

Bowden has a history of starting players with seniority who've worked hard and done everything right. Cromartie didn't start. He came in on the second play of the game and pretty much stayed in. He was incredible. He'd be a top 5 or 10 pick next year. I'd be very happy if Dallas took him. He's a game changer. As a non starting sophomore he was regularly assigned the other teams best receiver, and shut him down... and made it look easy.

Huff is the class of these DBs. After him I'll take Cromartie or Marshall confidently.

 
FSU losing Cromartie last year was devastating. He was their shinning star that they were counting on. Now, many are on the hype wagon for him now, so he might be getting a bit more love than he should, but BUST is extreme.

 
Mickey Andrews plays two or three deep at every defensive position if the players earn the PT. McFadden was a Rd 2 pick. I think that's being discounted too much. That's not too shabby.

As for Leroy Smith, he was a senior (as was McFadden). Andrews goes two deep but, in most cases, the SR will start over the SO. That's Mickey. However, that doesn't mean that the SR will get more PT.

If you look closely at the stats, Cromartie outperformed or matched Smith despite not starting.

- Cromartie tied for the team lead in INT (4). One went for a TD. Also returned a fumble @ UM for a TD.

- Cromartie had one more tackle and the same number of PBUs as Smith.

 
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gocats said:
Cromartie is one player that I hope WE DO NOT DRAFT.1. There has been talk of him moving to WR, this talked has popped up VERY recently. There is a reason why this stuff starts.....2. The guy have NEVER started more than one college game in his life.3. The guy has not played football in 1 1/2 years. The guy hasn't played a down of ball in 1 1/2 years and even at that, he's never even played as a starter in more than one game in almost 3-4 years.....I have NO IDEA who this Smith dude is and McFadden was take 62nd overall, now how is a guy who could not take a starting job from a guy who was almost a 3rd rounder, a 1st round lock? or even that great of a player.As a HC in college, you have a DUTY to put the best team/players on the field that you can. Cromartie was better than McFadden, so why was McFadden on the field instead, why the hell was this guy Leroy on the field and AC sitting on the bench?He's got problems, maybe he has large motivational issues, maybe he's just really stupid or maybe he simply can't take the punishment of a full 60 minutes game.There is something wrong with this player.I would MUCH rather take a Richard Marshall. He's not been injured, has been a starter for 2 years, is very intelligent. Is great in run support, probably the best run supporting CB in this draft.
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:o The Bengals don't need players like this bum.
 
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Here is the entire clip of Antonio Cromartie being selected by the San Diego Chargers in 2006. Alot of ESPN pundits criticized this pick, and they got it wrong. Cromartie turned in a dazzling 2007 season to lead the NFL in interceptions and was selected to the Pro Bowl. (less)

 
trader jake said:
thanks for not citing katzenmoyer as an example :yes: [nevermind]good post with solid rational. i happen to disagree primarily because of his desire to succeed and work ethic. those two things overcome a lot...and it doesn't hurt to have his natural ability and very few bad habits to coach out of him. from day 1 he'll contribute on special teams and once he gets up to speed on the playbook he should be a decent starter for multiple seasons
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