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TLEF316 said:
Updated pictures....

Full tank Shot

New Piece of wood

Ludwigia

oak leaf

Rams

On a sad note, it appears that 2 of my corys are having issues. One of the julli corys appears to have some damage to his fins (not sure if its rot or him being nipped) and one of the pandas is in some sort of shock. He went belly up for a second and then starting swimming around as if having a seizure. Then, he settled on the bottom and just started breathing fast. Same thing happened to one of his buddies the other day. It died. I can only guess it is some sort of delayed response to the poor water quality from during my vacation. I don't know if this one will make it. I'm guessing not.

From now on, i will stay away from the more sensitive cory species. They do ok for a while, but always seem to have issues and die out of nowhere.
Looking good. That piece of wood is really nice.That Ludwigia is coming in nicely. I just added some of that to my planted tank.

That Oak Leaf looks interesting. Looks similar to watersprite. I wonder if it's in the same family.

The deep breathing thing is almost always a killer. Happened to me recently with my schnee ball pleco. $30 down the tubes. Not sure what's going on because he had a big fat bellyand was doing pretty well....
My bala shark recently went through this. i gave him some medicine (can't remember what it was called right now), but he's swimming right side up again. He's still recovering a bit I think, but is eating and swimming normal again.
 
shake zula said:
How often do you need to clean a 55gal tank?
That all depends. For me I do water changes every 2 weeks. Takes about 45 minutes to do water changes on a 110, 75, 55 and now a 20 gallon fry tank and I don't fill a single bucket. Well, actually I do for the 20 but filling 1 bucket is no big deal. The more often you do water changes the better off you are. Monthly is OK but twice a month is better and once a week is even better. If you do them so often that you get sick of doing them then you will slack off. So do them often enough without getting sick of them. Remember, it's a hobby not a job...
 
i would hope the ludwigia would come in good, considering i just bought 4 bunches of it and planted it yesterday. It was only like $3.50 a bunch, so i didn't see the need of going through the pain of growing it all. The old stuff had black brush algae that i think I've gotten under control. Most of it is gone and I'm going to try and clear the rest up with a spot treatment of flourish excel (read about this technique at plantedtank.net forums)

I tried the oakleaf when i first started planting. However the specimens were not as nice and I put it in a high flow area of the tank. It got torn up. Hopefully this batch fairs better.

 
i would hope the ludwigia would come in good, considering i just bought 4 bunches of it and planted it yesterday. It was only like $3.50 a bunch, so i didn't see the need of going through the pain of growing it all. The old stuff had black brush algae that i think I've gotten under control. Most of it is gone and I'm going to try and clear the rest up with a spot treatment of flourish excel (read about this technique at plantedtank.net forums)I tried the oakleaf when i first started planting. However the specimens were not as nice and I put it in a high flow area of the tank. It got torn up. Hopefully this batch fairs better.
That Ludwigia has a bunch of nice new growth. That stuff is going to thrive. Nice job...
 
Update.....

Everything is going alright for the most part. The algae issue seems to be under control. The siesta period and cutting down the ferts seems to have done the trick. At this point, all I'm getting is a few very small patches of brown alage on the glass (mostly in the darker corners for some reason) and a little bit under the sand but on the glass. It's easily taken care of with 2 minutes of toothbrush work every 3 or 4 days.

Plant growth seems to be going alright. The ludwigia isn't growing a ton, but it seems to be making a little progress. I finally decided to tie down some of the java moss. It's just impossible to do with fishing wire. I'm gonna go get a bag of thin rubber bands and just anchor it down with that until it attaches. I'll deal with the small eye sore to get out of the frustration of trying fishing wire by hand. Same thing with the java fern. I think I'm just gonna tie all my current stock onto 1 piece of wood and let it all grow together until it looks like 1 plant. I'm gonna pick up some bushier pieces to tie in more high profile places.

The small green sword i have is doing really well. Its up to like 8 leaves now from the 4 it had a few weeks ago. 1 may have to go though as it has algae from before.

My anubias have also grown some new leaves. The older ones have the remenants of the black algae. I'm gonna try and spot treat them with flourish excel to get rid of it.

Red sword has been a bit disapointing. I didn't want to put it in the center of the tank, but i dont love it in the back either. It's tough to clean around and some of the leaves have holes in them. I may trim it down to just perfectly healthy leaves and start it over.

As for fish, most are doing well. The clowns have lost all of the black spots from that disease. No harm done. The cardinal tetras have amazing color and are really flourishing in their increased numbers.

Rummy nosed tetras are ok for the most part. 2 of them were really small and looking lethargic. I found 1 dead on saturday and the other looks like it might folow. They just arent eating. The rest of the shoal looks great.

New red tail shark is doing well. He's very active and i havent seen him bother a soul

The new rams are doing alright. The female looks great. her belly is very pink and she's eating well. The male is another story. He looks fine a lot of the time, but every once in a while i catch him near the top of the tank just staring at the glass. His color isnt great and i havent seen him eat much. I'm gonna try to pick up some diferent foods to get them to eat a little better and color up.

Corys are ok. The 1 panda recovered from his shock, but i saw a julli cory do it the other day (went belly up during a water change and started flailing around) I didnt see him yesterday. Afraid it might be dead. I'm gonna up the panda and pepper populations next time i go to the fish store. I'd like to get the peppers breading if i could.

water quality is excellent. Ph holding at around 7. Nitrates very low with 25% weekly changes. I actually had to do two changes this weekend becuase of a mistake. I guess a bunch of water got under the big sponge in my big filter. It raised all the media to the point where the ceramic rings werent even under water. I stupidly tried to push it back down and squeezed the entire contents of the filter into the water column. brown crap everywhere. Ugh. I changed the water and did a thorough cleaning of the filter. It's running well now.

Not sure if i should add any more species to the tank at this point. I'd actually like to add like 2 more rainbows, as i really like them. I've thought about another pair of dwarf cichlids, but with the rams just kinda doing so-so, i dont know if thats wise right now. Still need to clean up the planting. It looks sort of haphazard at this point.

 
Update.....Everything is going alright for the most part. The algae issue seems to be under control. The siesta period and cutting down the ferts seems to have done the trick. At this point, all I'm getting is a few very small patches of brown alage on the glass (mostly in the darker corners for some reason) and a little bit under the sand but on the glass. It's easily taken care of with 2 minutes of toothbrush work every 3 or 4 days.Plant growth seems to be going alright. The ludwigia isn't growing a ton, but it seems to be making a little progress. I finally decided to tie down some of the java moss. It's just impossible to do with fishing wire. I'm gonna go get a bag of thin rubber bands and just anchor it down with that until it attaches. I'll deal with the small eye sore to get out of the frustration of trying fishing wire by hand. Same thing with the java fern. I think I'm just gonna tie all my current stock onto 1 piece of wood and let it all grow together until it looks like 1 plant. I'm gonna pick up some bushier pieces to tie in more high profile places.The small green sword i have is doing really well. Its up to like 8 leaves now from the 4 it had a few weeks ago. 1 may have to go though as it has algae from before. My anubias have also grown some new leaves. The older ones have the remenants of the black algae. I'm gonna try and spot treat them with flourish excel to get rid of it. Red sword has been a bit disapointing. I didn't want to put it in the center of the tank, but i dont love it in the back either. It's tough to clean around and some of the leaves have holes in them. I may trim it down to just perfectly healthy leaves and start it over. As for fish, most are doing well. The clowns have lost all of the black spots from that disease. No harm done. The cardinal tetras have amazing color and are really flourishing in their increased numbers. Rummy nosed tetras are ok for the most part. 2 of them were really small and looking lethargic. I found 1 dead on saturday and the other looks like it might folow. They just arent eating. The rest of the shoal looks great.New red tail shark is doing well. He's very active and i havent seen him bother a soulThe new rams are doing alright. The female looks great. her belly is very pink and she's eating well. The male is another story. He looks fine a lot of the time, but every once in a while i catch him near the top of the tank just staring at the glass. His color isnt great and i havent seen him eat much. I'm gonna try to pick up some diferent foods to get them to eat a little better and color up. Corys are ok. The 1 panda recovered from his shock, but i saw a julli cory do it the other day (went belly up during a water change and started flailing around) I didnt see him yesterday. Afraid it might be dead. I'm gonna up the panda and pepper populations next time i go to the fish store. I'd like to get the peppers breading if i could. water quality is excellent. Ph holding at around 7. Nitrates very low with 25% weekly changes. I actually had to do two changes this weekend becuase of a mistake. I guess a bunch of water got under the big sponge in my big filter. It raised all the media to the point where the ceramic rings werent even under water. I stupidly tried to push it back down and squeezed the entire contents of the filter into the water column. brown crap everywhere. Ugh. I changed the water and did a thorough cleaning of the filter. It's running well now. Not sure if i should add any more species to the tank at this point. I'd actually like to add like 2 more rainbows, as i really like them. I've thought about another pair of dwarf cichlids, but with the rams just kinda doing so-so, i dont know if thats wise right now. Still need to clean up the planting. It looks sort of haphazard at this point.
Sounds like things are going great. That's good to hear.Me, I've been a slacker. Been working on landscaping and the newborn and water changes have been put on the back burner. I really need to knock one out this week. I lost a dwarf flame gourami a couple days ago in my 55 and a female peacock in my 110. And I haven't bought any gold fish for the clown knife or frozen brine for the others in quite a while. Huge slacker here, but sleep seems to take precedence right now...
 
well, at this point, I'm just about out of plantable floor room. I am in the process of tracking down 2 or 3 red tiger lotus bulbs, and thats about it. I'm sure a few of the things I've planted will fail (the microsword in all likelyhood). I've also bought another taller piece of wood that i have to find room for. My german blue Rams both died (some sort of bacterial infection) and i wont be replacing them. They're just too fragile. My brown algae problem is still hanging around. I bought a group of 6 ottos to deal with it. Of course, 2 of them kicked the bucket already. (found them stuck to the filter intake.

I also bumped my panda group back up to 6, as the ones i had were doing well. I've got a pair of gold rams now, and if they die, I'm probably done with dwarf cichlids. Anyways, here are my most recent pictures. Any aquascaping tips would be appreciated, as i don't love certain areas of the tank. I did not scrub any brown algae during yesterday's water change, as i want to see how the ottos handle it before i start brushing away their food source.

Full tank shot

Left Side

Right side

New Pandas (about 50% bigger than my other ones)

Gold Ram

Hygro Kompakt

Otto

 
well, at this point, I'm just about out of plantable floor room. I am in the process of tracking down 2 or 3 red tiger lotus bulbs, and thats about it. I'm sure a few of the things I've planted will fail (the microsword in all likelyhood). I've also bought another taller piece of wood that i have to find room for. My german blue Rams both died (some sort of bacterial infection) and i wont be replacing them. They're just too fragile. My brown algae problem is still hanging around. I bought a group of 6 ottos to deal with it. Of course, 2 of them kicked the bucket already. (found them stuck to the filter intake.

I also bumped my panda group back up to 6, as the ones i had were doing well. I've got a pair of gold rams now, and if they die, I'm probably done with dwarf cichlids. Anyways, here are my most recent pictures. Any aquascaping tips would be appreciated, as i don't love certain areas of the tank. I did not scrub any brown algae during yesterday's water change, as i want to see how the ottos handle it before i start brushing away their food source.

Full tank shot

Left Side

Right side

New Pandas (about 50% bigger than my other ones)

Gold Ram

Hygro Kompakt

Otto
TLEF that tank is gorgeous.I just got my first tank 6 months ago (used off craigslist), and it's been a slow learning process. It's 55 gallons with a Tiger Oscar I raised from a baby (now quite large), as well as three smaller cichlids (Black Convict, and two African ones). I originally bought it for my baby son, who loved watching the fish at the doctor's office, but I ended up losing all the plants when the Oscar tore them up (Lesson #1: Oscars love to rearrange their surroundings, including live plants). I also went with a blue gravel substratum instead of sand, and from the looks of your tank, the sand looks much MUCH nicer.

Meh. I think it's time to redo the tank. Dump the blue gravel, replace it with sand, and go driftwood hunting down by the local lake.

Queston: I'm using two submersible power filters that connect to plates under the substratum. Can I still use this filtration setup with sand? Or will the sand get sucked down through the plates and clog the filters?

 
well, at this point, I'm just about out of plantable floor room. I am in the process of tracking down 2 or 3 red tiger lotus bulbs, and thats about it. I'm sure a few of the things I've planted will fail (the microsword in all likelyhood). I've also bought another taller piece of wood that i have to find room for. My german blue Rams both died (some sort of bacterial infection) and i wont be replacing them. They're just too fragile. My brown algae problem is still hanging around. I bought a group of 6 ottos to deal with it. Of course, 2 of them kicked the bucket already. (found them stuck to the filter intake.

I also bumped my panda group back up to 6, as the ones i had were doing well. I've got a pair of gold rams now, and if they die, I'm probably done with dwarf cichlids. Anyways, here are my most recent pictures. Any aquascaping tips would be appreciated, as i don't love certain areas of the tank. I did not scrub any brown algae during yesterday's water change, as i want to see how the ottos handle it before i start brushing away their food source.

Full tank shot

Left Side

Right side

New Pandas (about 50% bigger than my other ones)

Gold Ram

Hygro Kompakt

Otto
TLEF that tank is gorgeous.I just got my first tank 6 months ago (used off craigslist), and it's been a slow learning process. It's 55 gallons with a Tiger Oscar I raised from a baby (now quite large), as well as three smaller cichlids (Black Convict, and two African ones). I originally bought it for my baby son, who loved watching the fish at the doctor's office, but I ended up losing all the plants when the Oscar tore them up (Lesson #1: Oscars love to rearrange their surroundings, including live plants). I also went with a blue gravel substratum instead of sand, and from the looks of your tank, the sand looks much MUCH nicer.

Meh. I think it's time to redo the tank. Dump the blue gravel, replace it with sand, and go driftwood hunting down by the local lake.

Queston: I'm using two submersible power filters that connect to plates under the substratum. Can I still use this filtration setup with sand? Or will the sand get sucked down through the plates and clog the filters?
from what I've heard, under gravel filters won't work with sand. I think they clog up. From what I've read, Oscars are very very messy. If i was keeping one, I'd probably get a canister filter. The sand comes with its own set of issues. I get some greenish alage on the glass under the surface of the sand. In certain areas, it's tough to get to. Also, fish poo sits on top and it sticks out like a sore thumb. If i do another planted tank, I think I'd go with black sand layered over some sort of planting substrate. Thats obviously a lot more expensive though. The play sand i used was dirt cheap (just makes sure you wash it really really well.)

 
Also, fish poo sits on top and it sticks out like a sore thumb. If i do another planted tank, I think I'd go with black sand layered over some sort of planting substrate. Thats obviously a lot more expensive though. The play sand i used was dirt cheap (just makes sure you wash it really really well.)
So the filtration system doesn't take care of solid waste? You have to manually remove it?
 
Also, fish poo sits on top and it sticks out like a sore thumb. If i do another planted tank, I think I'd go with black sand layered over some sort of planting substrate. Thats obviously a lot more expensive though. The play sand i used was dirt cheap (just makes sure you wash it really really well.)
So the filtration system doesn't take care of solid waste? You have to manually remove it?
as you can see from the pictures, my filter intake tubes don't make it all the way to the bottom of the tank. Plus, all of the decor disrupts water movement in certain areas. As a result, some waste settles in a few areas of the my tank (mostly the back left corner and in the center underneath the red ludwigia) I have to vacuum that stuff up. In the future, I may upgrade to some cannister filters. This way, i can regulate the intake and output a little better. Plus, there is room for a lot more media.
 
Sorry I haven't checked in here in a long time. Been out of work and avoided being homeless thanks to friends and family. Had to get rid of nearly all my tanks, but hopefully I'll be setting some up soon.

New job is in the aquarium industry working for a fish wholesaler. I'll try to get some pictures of some of the new and neat fish that come through. Really nice fish that's becoming more available now that would look great in some of these planted tanks is the millennium rainbow (G. psuedoincisus). A lot like the standard New Guinea reds, but not as big, and brighter color at a smaller size.

I may get motivated enough to set up a marine tank soon. It's hard seeing so many cool fish pass through work and not have tanks set up for them. I did get some Goodea atripinnis at my local aquarium society auction, but that's a serious geek fish, it's pretty much a gray Mexican ditch fish, but extremely rare in the wild.

 
are Otos just really stupid or what? This morning, yet another one of them was dead on the filter intake. That makes 3 of them in 3 days. Unreal. So much for that experiment.

 
We lost both our otos after we got a pleco - the otos seemed to just starve after the pleco started cleaning house.

We have five headlight/taillight tetras. They have bright reflective spots behind their eyes, then a dark dot behind that.

The largest of our five is going pale - his headlight is still there, but the dot is almost gone. His color is going pale in general, though it's not affecting his headlight and taillight.

Is this age? Does this sound like something's wrong?

 
any of the experienced guys ever keep any of the apistogramma cichlids? I'm looking for an alternative to the blue rams (which i couldnt keep alive) and came accross the cockatoo cichlids. They look amazing and are apparently pretty hardy. I'd have to build another rock cave or 2 in the back of the tank, but i like them a lot. I think a trio of them would really round out the tank.

I'm also thinking of getting two more rainbows. the 3 i have have worked out great. no problems at all and they have colored up nicely. I had a couple deaths in the past 2 weeks. 1 julli cory died and 2 danios got really skinny and eventually died. All other inhabitants look well. The pandas still dont swim around much as a group. I guess the tank is just too large for such a small group to really shoal together. I still get the occasional group dancing in the filter flow, which is fun to watch.

I took out the smaller pieces of wood and a couple of struggling plants (i just cant get a decent looking java fern) and added a great piece of wood. It's really great looking. I'm gonna look for one more tall piece for the middle. Then, I plan on covering them all in java moss. I think it will turn out well. I'll post pics later this week after my trip to the fish store. I also ordered some Tiger lotus bulbs and java moss online. should be here soon.

edit: o yeah, also gonna get some more ottos. I think I'll bump it up to 8 or so. after the first few deaths, the others have been good. Looks like it was just a couple of weak fish.

I think I'm getting multiple tank syndrome. I was at petco the other day, and pretty much any tank under 50 gallons is really cheap. Kind makes me want to do a nano-planted tank or something. I'd also love to upgrade my 75 to something bigger and REALLY go nuts. One thing i will definitly do at some point is an African tank with lots of rockwork. Lots of great examples all over the web.

 
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We lost both our otos after we got a pleco - the otos seemed to just starve after the pleco started cleaning house.We have five headlight/taillight tetras. They have bright reflective spots behind their eyes, then a dark dot behind that.The largest of our five is going pale - his headlight is still there, but the dot is almost gone. His color is going pale in general, though it's not affecting his headlight and taillight.Is this age? Does this sound like something's wrong?
Pale tetra croaked. He started losing scales, got really chubby, then seemed to get paralyzed.
 
just finished up a major re-scape. i moved about 60% of the plants to different locations. i really like the way it came out. Picked up 2 more rainbows and 6 otos last night. also got a few new plants...

more mexican oak leaf

more ludwigia (although its narrow leaf. all they had)

oriental sword (very few leaves though since i trimmed off all the emersed ones)

radican sword (this one is pretty big, so I've made it my centerpiece for the time being)

a few more valis to fill out the back

huge clump of java moss that i will use to cover all the wood in a couple of weeks

3 Nymphaea pubescens. Hopefully they'll grow to the surface in the back right. i wanted pennywort, but this looked pretty close.

I'll post some pics later since its easier to take good ones at night.

One bad thing did happen today. one of my pepper corys got a little too curious during my water change and got sucked into the siphon. before i realized, he was lodged in the back. I got him out, but he suffered some dorsal fin damage. i think he's doing ok though. The guy has survived 2 cycles and all my other beginner mistakes, so i think he'll be alright.

like i said, pictures later.

edit: saw a few really cool fish at the store yesterday that i would have loved to get. just done have enough room or money. They had some huge giant danios that were the size of my rainbows. They had a really cool, camouflaged like pattern. only $3 a piece too.

They also had torpedo barbs. They were amazing....They also cost $70 a piece. couldn't believe it.

 
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We lost both our otos after we got a pleco - the otos seemed to just starve after the pleco started cleaning house.We have five headlight/taillight tetras. They have bright reflective spots behind their eyes, then a dark dot behind that.The largest of our five is going pale - his headlight is still there, but the dot is almost gone. His color is going pale in general, though it's not affecting his headlight and taillight.Is this age? Does this sound like something's wrong?
Pale tetra croaked. He started losing scales, got really chubby, then seemed to get paralyzed.
sorry to hear that. I've had a few small fish do the same thing. Probably an internal parasite. Just be glad it didn't spread at all.
 
any of the experienced guys ever keep any of the apistogramma cichlids? I'm looking for an alternative to the blue rams (which i couldnt keep alive) and came accross the cockatoo cichlids. They look amazing and are apparently pretty hardy. I'd have to build another rock cave or 2 in the back of the tank, but i like them a lot. I think a trio of them would really round out the tank.
Apistos are kind of hit and miss. My advice is to find a local aquarium society and see if any of the folks there are raising them. Most of them are going to be wild caught, and they'll probably want really soft low pH water. If your local store gets tank raised Apistos those should work, and will probably be a bit sturdier than the rams. Quality on rams varies a lot depending on where they're raised, how they're shipped, etc.
I'm also thinking of getting two more rainbows. the 3 i have have worked out great. no problems at all and they have colored up nicely. I had a couple deaths in the past 2 weeks. 1 julli cory died and 2 danios got really skinny and eventually died. All other inhabitants look well. The pandas still dont swim around much as a group. I guess the tank is just too large for such a small group to really shoal together. I still get the occasional group dancing in the filter flow, which is fun to watch.
Odd you lost some danios, they are usually tough as nails. The more corys you have the more they'll school.
I took out the smaller pieces of wood and a couple of struggling plants (i just cant get a decent looking java fern) and added a great piece of wood. It's really great looking. I'm gonna look for one more tall piece for the middle. Then, I plan on covering them all in java moss. I think it will turn out well. I'll post pics later this week after my trip to the fish store. I also ordered some Tiger lotus bulbs and java moss online. should be here soon.
Best thing for Java fern is patience. It does grow slowly. You might also want to look into Riccia for the driftwood. Wait for advice from Fanatic on this, sounds like he's better with plants than I am.
edit: o yeah, also gonna get some more ottos. I think I'll bump it up to 8 or so. after the first few deaths, the others have been good. Looks like it was just a couple of weak fish.
Ottos come in in rough shape. Initial mortality is pretty normal for them. Offering some algae tablets or zucchini slices might help if you don't have a ton of algae in the tank.
I think I'm getting multiple tank syndrome. I was at petco the other day, and pretty much any tank under 50 gallons is really cheap. Kind makes me want to do a nano-planted tank or something. I'd also love to upgrade my 75 to something bigger and REALLY go nuts. One thing i will definitly do at some point is an African tank with lots of rockwork. Lots of great examples all over the web.
You're hooked! Within reason, multiple tanks don't add a lot more time. If you're breaking out the Python to do a water change on the 75, another couple of small tanks don't take much longer. A nice planted 10 gallon would work real well for a small group of Apistos.One last piece of advice. Set up a quarantine tank. Especially since you are looking at things like wild caught Apistos (which often show up full of parasites) or rams (which are often raised or held in an antibiotic bath, this doesn't help their immune system). 10 gallon tank, sponge filter, an air pump, and a few lengths of PVC pipe (for hiding places) and you're done.
 
edit: saw a few really cool fish at the store yesterday that i would have loved to get. just done have enough room or money. They had some huge giant danios that were the size of my rainbows. They had a really cool, camouflaged like pattern. only $3 a piece too.

They also had torpedo barbs. They were amazing....They also cost $70 a piece. couldn't believe it.
Just got a couple hundred of these in. Puntius denasoni, usually known as a rose-line shark. I haven't heard them called torpedo barbs before. $70 is outrageous; they're not cheap but they shouldn't be that pricey. How big were these? Thats not a bad price if they're 5 or 6", but they usually come in around 2" (and the bigger they are the worse they ship from what I've seen). Should probably be somewhere around $20 retail. If you want, PM me your local store name and I'll see if I can sell them some fish. They're either getting a huge mark up, or I can be real competitive on prices.
 
Good idea on finding some local Apistos. That may be something i look into. The store i went to had 5 or 6 different types, but no cockatoos. Don't know if they were tank raised or wild caught

Yeah, the danios are almost a year old now. They came from a really crappy store and 1 of them only had 1 eye. They just got real skinny all of a sudden.

Yeah, i know the fern requires patience. Guess i just didn't have enough. I still have 1 small one on there on some drift wood. I'll see how it does. riccia is something I've looked at, but i haven't seen it anywhere. Plus, it looks like its hard to tie down.

Yeah, the new otos are doing well. They were much bigger than my first batch. Sometimes i get unlucky at the fish store and buy some fish only to go back a week later and see the same species at twice the size (for the same price) They are feasting on some brown algae on the glass and a few plants. If they run out, I'll start supplementing. I already feed algae tablets, but the clown loaches and corys make short work of them.

At the moment, I'm not sure a Q tank is in the cards. I'm gonna be living here at home for at least a few more months (currently looking for my own place) so i cant really be throwing tanks up all over the place. Plus, i don't see myself adding too many more fish. Maybe 3 or 4 more corys and a trio of apistos at the most. We'll see.

When i move out, i could see myself doing a couple of smaller, species type tanks.

 
edit: saw a few really cool fish at the store yesterday that i would have loved to get. just done have enough room or money. They had some huge giant danios that were the size of my rainbows. They had a really cool, camouflaged like pattern. only $3 a piece too.

They also had torpedo barbs. They were amazing....They also cost $70 a piece. couldn't believe it.
Just got a couple hundred of these in. Puntius denasoni, usually known as a rose-line shark. I haven't heard them called torpedo barbs before. $70 is outrageous; they're not cheap but they shouldn't be that pricey. How big were these? Thats not a bad price if they're 5 or 6", but they usually come in around 2" (and the bigger they are the worse they ship from what I've seen). Should probably be somewhere around $20 retail. If you want, PM me your local store name and I'll see if I can sell them some fish. They're either getting a huge mark up, or I can be real competitive on prices.
Yeah, thats what they were called in the store too. I just know them as torpedo barbs because one guy over at plantedtank.net had a bunch of them and referred to them as that. Yeah, they were 5-6 inches and very robust. Extremely healthy looking fish. The store is Absolutely Fish in Clifton, NJ. Link It was actually recomended to me by someone in this thread. (thanks, by the way) It's way out of my way, but their stock is top notch and they have an outstanding selection. Only negative is they don't have much of a selection of natural decor. They don't replenish their mopani wood or river rock stock very often. I'm thinking about taking out the rock cave in the back of my tank and replacing it with something a little smaller and more practical. It takes up a ton of space and makes it very hard to decorate the top right of the tank. Plus, the fat clown loaches may soon out grow the holes.

 
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The store is Absolutely Fish in Clifton, NJ. Link It was actually recomended to me by someone in this thread. (thanks, by the way) It's way out of my way, but their stock is top notch and they have an outstanding selection. Only negative is they don't have much of a selection of natural decor. They don't replenish their mopani wood or river rock stock very often.
I've talked to Todd a couple times, already trying to get them on board. Probably not doing anything soon, but they get my price list every week. It sounds like a great store, he's told me about the kind of stuff that sells for them and the variety they have. Maybe you'll see some of my fish there some day.FYI, I've always gotten my rock from a local stone and tile place. Yeah, there is a minor risk, but I've never had issues. Rinse thoroughly, let it soak a little while, if you're worried throw it in a small spare tank with some test fish. I was paying somewhere around $0.15 a pound for nice stuff that would have been at least $2.00 a pound in my local store.

Another store I've heard good things about is Adam's Pet Safari, with a store in Warren and in Chester. I have no idea of they're worth the trip, but I know they do get some nice fish (not from me, I've seen their stock list on line).

 
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The store is Absolutely Fish in Clifton, NJ. Link It was actually recomended to me by someone in this thread. (thanks, by the way) It's way out of my way, but their stock is top notch and they have an outstanding selection. Only negative is they don't have much of a selection of natural decor. They don't replenish their mopani wood or river rock stock very often.
I've talked to Todd a couple times, already trying to get them on board. Probably not doing anything soon, but they get my price list every week. It sounds like a great store, he's told me about the kind of stuff that sells for them and the variety they have. Maybe you'll see some of my fish there some day.FYI, I've always gotten my rock from a local stone and tile place. Yeah, there is a minor risk, but I've never had issues. Rinse thoroughly, let it soak a little while, if you're worried throw it in a small spare tank with some test fish. I was paying somewhere around $0.15 a pound for nice stuff that would have been at least $2.00 a pound in my local store.

Another store I've heard good things about is Adam's Pet Safari, with a store in Warren and in Chester. I have no idea of they're worth the trip, but I know they do get some nice fish (not from me, I've seen their stock list on line).
yeah, the rock thats in my tank right now came from a landscaping place. A lot of those places seem hesitant to sell the small quantity that I'd be looking for. Not much room for rock in my current tank anyway. I may check out Adam's pet safari. The one in warren should be a lot closer to me.

 
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updated pics. couldn't get any good fish close ups, so its just full tank shots. As i said, i like the look right now, but may change up some stuff. I'll still thinking of getting one more tall, thin piece of wood for the middle. Obviously, all the moss will be tied down eventually and the rubber bands will be gone. The rocks in the back right may be re-scaped at some point to make better use of the space. Water chemistry is good and only fish issue is the pepper cory who got stuck in the siphon yesterday. he's moving around and eating ok, so I'm not too worried. His fin will heal.

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updated pics. couldn't get any good fish close ups, so its just full tank shots. As i said, i like the look right now, but may change up some stuff. I'll still thinking of getting one more tall, thin piece of wood for the middle. Obviously, all the moss will be tied down eventually and the rubber bands will be gone. The rocks in the back right may be re-scaped at some point to make better use of the space. Water chemistry is good and only fish issue is the pepper cory who got stuck in the siphon yesterday. he's moving around and eating ok, so I'm not too worried. His fin will heal.

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Looking fantastic. Looks like you finally have some plants and wood reaching the upper reaches of the tank. Really brings it all together that way. I had a bunch of stuff in my tank for a buddy of mine and a fem holding eggs so I gutted my 110. Pulled everything out I needed and reassembled the tank.

Bored with my 55 planted set up so I started gutting it. Turning it into just a fry grow out tank. I have 3 different ZO broods and about a dozen Transcriptus in a tub and a 20 gallon. Gonna combine them all.

Here is a video of my 110 I took a couple nights ago....

I can't believe that this tank is only 6 months old in its current configuration as an African tank...

 
sounds cool. i'll take a look at the video when i get home.

I'm having a few issues. I've lost 3 corys in the past week. Looks like some sort of infection. They just went sluggish all of a sudden and died (my pepper that got caught in the siphon lost both of his eyes one day and i came home to him dying in the corner. I euthanized it) but the other 2 were pandas that just turned up dead. The others seem fine, but i just dont know what the problem is. nobody bothers them and they eat fine. Water quality is teriffic. I think its time for a hospital tank so i can medicate if necessary. i also lost 2 rummy noses.

i want to get a big school of corys in hopes that they school, but i just havent had good enough luck to risk it. i dont want to buy a dozen pandas only to have them die. I got 4 red lotus bulbs that have already germinated, so i should see some growth soon.

Still thinking about a pair of apistos or maybe a school of hatchets to fill out the top. (hatchets for the top, i know that apistos are bottom dwellers) Maybe its time to upgrade to a cannister filter. Who the heck knows. Tonight I'm gonna order some LED's off EBAY for moonlighting. They came highly recomended by some people over at theplantedtank.net

 
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sounds cool. i'll take a look at the video when i get home.I'm having a few issues. I've lost 3 corys in the past week. Looks like some sort of infection. They just went sluggish all of a sudden and died (my pepper that got caught in the siphon lost both of his eyes one day and i came home to him dying in the corner. I euthanized it) but the other 2 were pandas that just turned up dead. The others seem fine, but i just dont know what the problem is. nobody bothers them and they eat fine. Water quality is teriffic. I think its time for a hospital tank so i can medicate if necessary. i also lost 2 rummy noses.i want to get a big school of corys in hopes that they school, but i just havent had good enough luck to risk it. i dont want to buy a dozen pandas only to have them die. I got 4 red lotus bulbs that have already germinated, so i should see some growth soon.Still thinking about a pair of apistos or maybe a school of hatchets to fill out the top. (hatchets for the top, i know that apistos are bottom dwellers) Maybe its time to upgrade to a cannister filter. Who the heck knows. Tonight I'm gonna order some LED's off EBAY for moonlighting. They came highly recomended by some people over at theplantedtank.net
Pandas are really tough. And the more I tried them with plants the more I think that the extra things plants bring to the water are not good for pandas. Go with a stronger stock of cories. Sounds like the guy that was sucked up the tube was worse off that you thought. He wasn't able to get away from someone who started pecking at him. Apistos will go as high as they have plant cover. If you have a lot of plants that go high, the higher they will go in the tank. My buddy has then in a high tech 125 and they are always a foot off the gravel Good luck bro...
 
updated pics. couldn't get any good fish close ups, so its just full tank shots. As i said, i like the look right now, but may change up some stuff. I'll still thinking of getting one more tall, thin piece of wood for the middle. Obviously, all the moss will be tied down eventually and the rubber bands will be gone. The rocks in the back right may be re-scaped at some point to make better use of the space. Water chemistry is good and only fish issue is the pepper cory who got stuck in the siphon yesterday. he's moving around and eating ok, so I'm not too worried. His fin will heal.

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:hifive: Looks sweet!
 
sounds cool. i'll take a look at the video when i get home.I'm having a few issues. I've lost 3 corys in the past week. Looks like some sort of infection. They just went sluggish all of a sudden and died (my pepper that got caught in the siphon lost both of his eyes one day and i came home to him dying in the corner. I euthanized it) but the other 2 were pandas that just turned up dead. The others seem fine, but i just dont know what the problem is. nobody bothers them and they eat fine. Water quality is teriffic. I think its time for a hospital tank so i can medicate if necessary. i also lost 2 rummy noses.i want to get a big school of corys in hopes that they school, but i just havent had good enough luck to risk it. i dont want to buy a dozen pandas only to have them die. I got 4 red lotus bulbs that have already germinated, so i should see some growth soon.Still thinking about a pair of apistos or maybe a school of hatchets to fill out the top. (hatchets for the top, i know that apistos are bottom dwellers) Maybe its time to upgrade to a cannister filter. Who the heck knows. Tonight I'm gonna order some LED's off EBAY for moonlighting. They came highly recomended by some people over at theplantedtank.net
Pandas are really tough. And the more I tried them with plants the more I think that the extra things plants bring to the water are not good for pandas. Go with a stronger stock of cories. Sounds like the guy that was sucked up the tube was worse off that you thought. He wasn't able to get away from someone who started pecking at him. Apistos will go as high as they have plant cover. If you have a lot of plants that go high, the higher they will go in the tank. My buddy has then in a high tech 125 and they are always a foot off the gravel Good luck bro...
yeah, i think you are right about the pandas. You warned me before. I just didnt listen. Gotta find a new species to try. The store i go to gets some pretty rare species, but they are absurdly expensive (sometimes like $14 a piece) There is a really good seller on aquabid that has a ton of diferent types. Maybe i should do some research and order a bunch online.
 
watched the vid. cool tank. Quick question though...Do african cichlids typically swim at the top of the tank like that. i was under the impression that they spent all day zipping around the rockwork and defending their little territories. yours just all seem to swim aimlessly around the top half. is that typical of africans?

And I'm taking a hard look at sterbai corys. The orange lasers also look awesome, but i doubt i'll find them in the shop i go to.

 
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watched the vid. cool tank. Quick question though...Do african cichlids typically swim at the top of the tank like that. i was under the impression that they spent all day zipping around the rockwork and defending their little territories. yours just all seem to swim aimlessly around the top half. is that typical of africans?And I'm taking a hard look at sterbai corys. The orange lasers also look awesome, but i doubt i'll find them in the shop i go to.
looks to me like they are expeting to be fed, which is why they are up top....
 
Here is my stock list:

2 large male yellow labs

1 small female Kenyii

2 Tretacephalus

1 Strawberry or Crystal Red Peacock

1 OB Peacock

2 Julidichromis Transcriptus – Maited Pair

6 J. Transcriptus Fry (probably more by now)

2 Julidichromis Marleri – Small

1 Red Empress

1 Red Topped Zebra

2 Zebra Obliquidens

2 Zebra Obliquidens (smaller)

1 Ngara Flametail

1 German Red

1 Ahli

1 Syno Multipunk

3 Syno Multipunk - Smaller

1 Syno Decorus

1 Syno Ocelifer

1 Bristlenose

1 Tiger Pleco

3 Clown Loaches

1 L200 - Green Phantom

1 L236 Pleco
What. a. fun. tank.I'm an African keeper, but have usually kept mbunas separate from haps, the malawians separate from tanganyikans and the peacocks alone together. Currently I have a 60 with mbunas (colony of melanochromis maingano), and a 40 hex grow out.

Mixing like you have is considered risky, but being both roomy and busy enough, I'm sure the zebras have little interest in killing the julies. The "big" julie looks spunky too. Nice mix of cats and plecos too. The peacocks seemed to dominate the water waiting for their grub, but I'm sure settled down it is just a fun tank to observe. The OB looked sweet. The loaches made me chuckle. Get some hap and altolamp compressiceps (calvus) in there for a nice touch. Cool tank. My kind of tank. Thanks for posting.

My next fry of Maingano is spoken for, but after that I'll probably sell sixpacks on Aquabid. I might sell the colony (2 males, 10 females) and do something like you've done. It's not breeding, but it's more interesting to watch.

TLEF, your tank is gorgeous too. Not my kind of fish (I'm strictly cichlids), but you're off to a nice start in the hobby. Just scanning this thead it seems like you lose too many fish without explanation. Of course, that happens. My kid lost three tetras in two days last week and It's a mystery to me. They seemed fine and had been fine for a long time. But still, I would consider a new supplier if all these difficulties are coming from the same supplier(s). My nephew uses Aquabid and gets great fish and plants all the time. He's at about 600 gallons total and I got him started a couple years ago, so be careful. :goodposting:

 
Picked up a 12 gallon Nano Cube today. Gonna get my water and live rock tomorrow. If any of you experts have time check out this store and make a few suggestions as far as what I should be putting in a tank this small (I do not want to spend $300 on a piece of coral).

I am looking to put in a couple of fish, a sea cucumber, maybe a shrimp and clam. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 
Picked up a 12 gallon Nano Cube today. Gonna get my water and live rock tomorrow. If any of you experts have time check out this store and make a few suggestions as far as what I should be putting in a tank this small (I do not want to spend $300 on a piece of coral).

I am looking to put in a couple of fish, a sea cucumber, maybe a shrimp and clam. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Buddy of mine just set up a 24 gallon nano. Cost him about $1200 just for the tank the really expensive light, the live rock, all the cleaner crew (crabs, shrimps, snails) a banded shrimp and a coral. Good luck bro....
 
Here is my stock list:

1 large male yellow labs

1 small female Kenyii

2 Tretacephalus

1 Strawberry or Crystal Red Peacock

1 OB Peacock

2 Julidichromis Transcriptus – Maited Pair

6 J. Transcriptus Fry (probably more by now)

2 Julidichromis Marleri – Small

1 Red Empress

1 Red Topped Zebra

2 Zebra Obliquidens

2 Zebra Obliquidens (smaller)

1 Ngara Flametail

1 German Red

1 Ahli

1 Syno Multipunk

3 Syno Multipunk - Smaller

1 Syno Decorus

1 Syno Ocelifer

1 Bristlenose

1 Tiger Pleco

3 Clown Loaches

1 L200 - Green Phantom

1 L236 Pleco
What. a. fun. tank.I'm an African keeper, but have usually kept mbunas separate from haps, the malawians separate from tanganyikans and the peacocks alone together. Currently I have a 60 with mbunas (colony of melanochromis maingano), and a 40 hex grow out.



Mixing like you have is considered risky, but being both roomy and busy enough, I'm sure the zebras have little interest in killing the julies. The "big" julie looks spunky too. Nice mix of cats and plecos too. The peacocks seemed to dominate the water waiting for their grub, but I'm sure settled down it is just a fun tank to observe. The OB looked sweet. The loaches made me chuckle. Get some hap and altolamp compressiceps (calvus) in there for a nice touch. Cool tank. My kind of tank. Thanks for posting.

My next fry of Maingano is spoken for, but after that I'll probably sell sixpacks on Aquabid. I might sell the colony (2 males, 10 females) and do something like you've done. It's not breeding, but it's more interesting to watch.

TLEF, your tank is gorgeous too. Not my kind of fish (I'm strictly cichlids), but you're off to a nice start in the hobby. Just scanning this thead it seems like you lose too many fish without explanation. Of course, that happens. My kid lost three tetras in two days last week and It's a mystery to me. They seemed fine and had been fine for a long time. But still, I would consider a new supplier if all these difficulties are coming from the same supplier(s). My nephew uses Aquabid and gets great fish and plants all the time. He's at about 600 gallons total and I got him started a couple years ago, so be careful. :goodposting:
It can be, and I have since paired it back. One of the yellow labs died. He was about 6 years old. My remaining one isn't eating a lot which concerns me, particularly when I'm feeding frozen brine about 5 days a week.The Marleri are gone. As is the Kenyi. The German Red was a fem so she's gone. I have since added an Otter Point peacock, Electric Blue Ahli, Sunshine Peacock and another peacock that I'm not sure what he is just yet.

Also gone is the S. Decorus and Ocellifer. I replaced them with two S. Petricolors.

And I just realized that my flame tale Ngara isn't in there anymore. I guess he died. That sucks. He was just starting to color up...

 
watched the vid. cool tank. Quick question though...Do african cichlids typically swim at the top of the tank like that. i was under the impression that they spent all day zipping around the rockwork and defending their little territories. yours just all seem to swim aimlessly around the top half. is that typical of africans?And I'm taking a hard look at sterbai corys. The orange lasers also look awesome, but i doubt i'll find them in the shop i go to.
Mbuna are rock dwellers more than peacocks and haps which are the primary focus of my tanks. They like open water. So rock halfway up and leave some room to swim. But it is compounded by the fact that I was standing there so they were expecting to be fed. Ever since I started feeding them frozen brine and frozen blood worms they have all become crack addicts. I think my dried foods seem like methadone to them. With a couple of sets of breeding pairs in there including the Juliis, there aren't as many hiding places as they would like and that forces even more fish into the open water which is just fine with me...
 
Set up my 12 gallon Nano Friday night. Bought my water at the store along with crushed coral as my substrate. Picked up my live rock this am and put in the tank as soon as I got home. Since my HS years I have always had African Chiclids and or a poison dart frog tank. This is my first salt water tank and I am really sorry I haven't tried this sooner.

 
Well after doing a lot of reading I am going to let the little tank cycle for 3-4 weeks. After that I will start with a clown fish and one other. Once they cycle for a couple of weeks I will then start with the invertebrates.

 
caught my Gold Rams in some aggressive behavior last night. Some lip-locking and circling of eachother. It went on for at least an hour. Could be a dispute between two males, could be mating rituals. They are still too young to tell.

 
Well after doing a lot of reading I am going to let the little tank cycle for 3-4 weeks. After that I will start with a clown fish and one other. Once they cycle for a couple of weeks I will then start with the invertebrates.
Sounds like a good idea. Wish I had seen your post sooner. That Fish Place is awesome BTW.Clowns sound like a good idea, Definitely let it cycle for a couple weeks. If you got test kits, wait till ammonia and nitrite are down to 0 (not close to 0 but actually 0).Did the nano come with a light or did you buy it? You need strong lighting for most corals but with a nano you can have too much. Clams need very clean water, it could be tough. Shrimp are very easy, a cleaner would be good. Don't get a damsel they can get nasty. Besides the clown, I would look at gobies, basslets and dottybacks.Once they cycle is over add a couple snails and maybe hermit crabs.Good luck!!
 
just another update. Things are going alright. Got back from vacation yesterday, and, for the first time, did not have a 3 hour clean up project. Guess the plants are doing their job.

fish wise, things are alright. The one gold ram is clearly the dominant one and is thriving. The other, not so much. It has lost some weight and hangs around the back a lot. Still eats well, but is probably a little stressed. I still can't tell what sex it is. The rainbow fish are doing well. 1 is clearly smaller than the others, but never gets picked on. The 4 big boys flare at each other, but no harm done. Recently, the shark has taken to lunging at them, but they just shrug it off and go about their business.

both tetra schools are doing well. No recent deaths and all have great color and appetite. Same with the otos. They were a great decision. Clown loaches continue to be skittish, but are obviously very healthy. Still eat like pigs.

Corys are still a mixed bag. I still have the 2 pandas and 1 remaining pepper. I picked up 6 Corydoras arcuatus. 2 died within a few weeks, but the others look good. They look somewhat similar to the pandas, but are apparently a little hardier. We'll see.

As far as plants go, its also mixed results. Valis is growing well, as are my swords. finally picked up some tiger lotus bulbs, and they are making progress. Some of my anubias are having an algae issue, and the otos aren't eating it. Perhaps they need to be moved to a shadier spot. My stem plants (ludwigia and Mexican oak leaves) are both too fragile and aren't doing well. The ludwigia wont stay red and grows leggy. I'll pull both once i find a suitable replacement.

I am starting my apartment hunt this week, so any major additions/re-scapes will happen when i move the tank to my new place. I bought a sweet piece of mopani wood and a bunch of grey river rocks to construct some more interesting caves (probably for the apistos i plan to get) but they won't go in until i move. Water quality is terrific.

anyways, here are some picks. Some aren't the best, but a few of my fish just wont sit still.

Full tank Shot

The Big ram

New Cory

My biggest rainbow (lousy pic quality, but you can see his pattern, which is pretty unique. Might be a hybrid)

 
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I've been thinking about selling my paintball gear or skiis to get enough cash to start a 110 tank or a salt water nano. I think my son would love either. I'd probably keep the nano at work though...

Had a 55 growing up and enjoyed it. Maybe I'll scrape the cash together to get started soon.

 
Some of my anubias are having an algae issue, and the otos aren't eating it. Perhaps they need to be moved to a shadier spot.
Annubias LOVE shade. Don't plant them up high on a piece of wood. They will "burn" up. Plant them under overhangs, under large leaf plants like your swords or Lotus, etc....
My stem plants (ludwigia and Mexican oak leaves) are both too fragile and aren't doing well. The ludwigia wont stay red and grows leggy. I'll pull both once i find a suitable replacement.
Any plant that is red requires about 5 watts per gallon and C02. In other words you need a high tech tank for them to grow well. The sorta red plants like red Crypt Wendtii and those Lotus will do well, but truly red stuff will not do well unless you have an insane plant set upOne more thing. Unless you are taking these pics with a phone, most digi cameras have a sports setting for getting action shots. Try that when taking pictures of fish. You can thank me later...OH, and the tank is looking great. Love the Java Fern on the rock. Be sure to trim it back periodically otherwise it will take over your tank....
 

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