Any Chance LJ could get traded to another team? (1 Viewer)

[Ballstein]

I dont know what to do with this pile of garbage. He seems to have ZERO value right now, I dont think I could give LJ away right now.

 

[Banger]

LOL, I wish...

 

[Mortimer Ichabod]

I dont know what to do with this pile of garbage. He seems to have ZERO value right now, I dont think I could give LJ away right now.

It looked like the old LJ was back in preseason, and I still think he looks good. The Kansas City O-Line just can't open any holes for any of the backs on that team. If LJ were to somehow magically trade places with Brandon Jacobs, I think he would be the best RB in football again. So much of a RB's success depends on the team around him.

 

[thehornet]

I dont know what to do with this pile of garbage. He seems to have ZERO value right now, I dont think I could give LJ away right now.

when was the last time you saw something like this happen?in addition, he probably doesn't have much appeal right now given his contract.

 

[Interseptopus]

I called this back in the preseason and EVERYONE jumped down my throat: "how could you say LJ won't finish in the top 10, you're insane"

Well, he looks worse than I thought he'd be. He won't even finish top 20!

No chance he gets traded to a new team. This isn't baseball, starting RB trades, or even ANY trades don't happen at the trade deadline. Maybe this offseason after he throws a fit about it, but he's locked up long term... I see him pulling a S. Alexander and getting cut and not being able to find a job because everyone realizes how broke he is

 

[thehornet]

I called this back in the preseason and EVERYONE jumped down my throat: "how could you say LJ won't finish in the top 10, you're insane"Well, he looks worse than I thought he'd be. He won't even finish top 20!No chance he gets traded to a new team. This isn't baseball, starting RB trades, or even ANY trades don't happen at the trade deadline. Maybe this offseason after he throws a fit about it, but he's locked up long term... I see him pulling a S. Alexander and getting cut and not being able to find a job because everyone realizes how broke he is

absurd. totally absurd. If he was on Dallas or Minny or any team with a decent line, then he woud be an absolute stud. This isnt debatable.

 

[TheNext0]

I'm also an LJ owner. The Chiefs need massive help at QB to improve that offense. If I were them, I'd be on the horn with TB to get Garcia. With no passing game, all defenses have to do is load the box. LJ can only do so much. I think they at least need to get him involved in the passing game if they are going to stick with the QBs they have. He's proven to be a decent receiver, yet he has only 1 catch. Unacceptable.

For my team, it's either him or James, so it's a lose-lose situation for me now. Sitting at 0-2, just hoping and praying that he can turn it around (maybe even for just a week so I can trade him). Giving him one more week in the starting lineup to show me something.

 

[az_prof]

He is a good back on a very bad team, and he looks like it. I said this would happen a couple of years ago as his OL retired or went away in FA and no one wanted to listen to me. But the fact is that even in his hey day you could plug in another back and he did just as well in that offense. He is a big back but he doesn't break a ton of tackles at the line of scrimmage; he needs a good hole and then once he has a head of steam going he can shrug off arm tackles. But he can't get going. As soon as he has a decent game I would try to trade him for whatever you can get.

 

[Keepers]

I can't understand 1 reception in 2 games.

 

[Largent]

he was nothing but a decoy the 2nd half....problem with that is he's the only weapon when you're "starting" QB only gets 1/2 the reps in practice. Herm needs to go.

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

You think they would at least leave him in on passing downs to pick up some trash receiving stats. Yards is yards.

 

[softball]

The problem is NOT the offensive line, its not thaey are good. But he did have at least a respectable game as the only option against the Patriots.

They gave him 12! 12! carries against the Raiders, but 22 vs. the Pats?

This is ALL coaching. Period. The O-line is actually decent, but the Head Coach has NO CLUE.

He HAS to have a good game vs the Falcons, or this is a complete disaster for sure.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

LJ makes his living by punishing defenses and he is right about needing more carries. 12 carries is not nearly enough. Forget the YPC for a minute and think about how backs like LJ wear down defense over the course of a game. He needs 30 carries, especially with this offense.

 

[Phurfur]

I called this back in the preseason and EVERYONE jumped down my throat: "how could you say LJ won't finish in the top 10, you're insane"

Well, he looks worse than I thought he'd be. He won't even finish top 20!

No chance he gets traded to a new team. This isn't baseball, starting RB trades, or even ANY trades don't happen at the trade deadline. Maybe this offseason after he throws a fit about it, but he's locked up long term... I see him pulling a S. Alexander and getting cut and not being able to find a job because everyone realizes how broke he is

absurd. totally absurd. If he was on Dallas or Minny or any team with a decent line, then he woud be an absolute stud. This isnt debatable.

If you knew LJ needed a great line to produce you shouldn't have drafted him. This is what 'Warriors Forever' is saying.LJ was a good back on a great running team which gave him great numbers. "A great RB does not have to have a great line in front of him to produce! I look for him for mirror S. Alexander.

 

[H.K.]

LJ makes his living by punishing defenses and he is right about needing more carries. 12 carries is not nearly enough. Forget the YPC for a minute and think about how backs like LJ wear down defense over the course of a game. He needs 30 carries, especially with this offense.

LJ agrees with you:

Frustrated Larry Johnson says he’s being phased out of Chiefs’ offense

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

After sharing the backfield workload for the second straight week, Larry Johnson couldn’t contain his frustration any longer.

Johnson said after the Chiefs’ 23-8 loss to Oakland at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday that he was obviously being phased out of the offense. Johnson had the second-lowest rushing total during his time as the Chiefs’ featured back, with 22 yards in 12 carries.

“I’ve got to sit back and figure that the writing is on the wall, that this season or next season could be my last season as a Chief,” Johnson said. “I don’t know. But obviously if they’re making personnel changes now and I’m not even in for any of the snaps to (try to) help win this game, then that pretty much says it for all.

“I’m not dumb. I know what’s going on. I sense what’s going on. Nobody should run the ball if it isn’t me. I always felt that way. If I’m not getting the ball, then I should be tired. If I’m not tired and I’m not getting the ball, then there’s something going on. I’ve just got to deal with it.”

Specifically, Johnson said he was most upset at being removed from the game when the Chiefs were near the opponent’s end zone. He was in for only one of the final four plays in last week’s game in New England and was replaced by either Jamaal Charles or Kolby Smith on the Chiefs’ only touchdown drive on Sunday.

He stood near the offensive coaches on the sideline waiting for word to enter the game, but that call didn’t come until after the Chiefs scored their touchdown and were trying for a two-point conversion.

“I’m trying to help win games, and this is the second time where I’m not in there when it’s time to win a game,” Johnson said.

Johnson, who averaged only 3.5 yards per carry last season, acknowledged he is trying too hard to make long runs.

“You’re forcing yourself to try to make plays because you know that changes that are going on are fighting against you,” he said.

In 38 career starts for the Chiefs, Johnson had fewer than 12 carries only twice. But neither Charles (three carries) nor Smith (one) was busy, either.

The Chiefs wound up throwing 38 passes, and Johnson is no longer part of their lineup when the Chiefs throw.

“It had nothing to do with the offensive line,” Johnson said of his inability to find running room. “You’re not getting any momentum when you’re coming in and you’re coming out, coming in and coming out. It’s kind of tough in my position as a running back. I need to warm up to get going, and it didn’t happen because of personnel changes and things we’re doing on offense.

“I need 20 or 30 carries. Things are going in a different direction than I thought. Maybe it will turn around for next week or the week after that. As of right now, it’s tough not to be able to get into a rhythm and gain momentum.

“I don’t want to complain about not getting the ball. It’s (about) whatever’s best for the team. That’s where I kind of leave it. Whatever the team needs and whatever the team has to do to win, either with me or without me, then that’s what they have to do.”

The Chiefs take Johnson out of the game in passing situations because they believe he is not as proficient as Charles or Smith as a pass receiver or blocker. Johnson was late to block the blitzing linebacker Thomas Howard in the first quarter, and Howard sacked Damon Huard for an 8-yard loss.

“I’m 7 yards back,” Johnson said. “I can’t fly up there. It’s just not going to happen.”

 

[Bills_Fan11]

I'm also an LJ owner. The Chiefs need massive help at QB to improve that offense. If I were them, I'd be on the horn with TB to get Garcia. With no passing game, all defenses have to do is load the box. LJ can only do so much. I think they at least need to get him involved in the passing game if they are going to stick with the QBs they have. He's proven to be a decent receiver, yet he has only 1 catch. Unacceptable.

For my team, it's either him or James, so it's a lose-lose situation for me now. Sitting at 0-2, just hoping and praying that he can turn it around (maybe even for just a week so I can trade him). Giving him one more week in the starting lineup to show me something.

If I were Herm or Carl Peterson, I would not be on the phone with TB unless I was also an LJ owner. Why would a team that is going nowhere want a 38 year old QB?

 

[Ghost Rider]

I called this back in the preseason and EVERYONE jumped down my throat: "how could you say LJ won't finish in the top 10, you're insane"Well, he looks worse than I thought he'd be. He won't even finish top 20!No chance he gets traded to a new team. This isn't baseball, starting RB trades, or even ANY trades don't happen at the trade deadline. Maybe this offseason after he throws a fit about it, but he's locked up long term... I see him pulling a S. Alexander and getting cut and not being able to find a job because everyone realizes how broke he is

absurd. totally absurd. If he was on Dallas or Minny or any team with a decent line, then he woud be an absolute stud. This isnt debatable.

But he isn't on either of those teams. He is on the Chiefs, a team most figured would be one of the worst in the NFL this year. That is why I avoided Johnson like the plague in all three leagues I am in. I didn't even bid on him in the auction league I am in, even when the bidding first started, as I didn't want to take a chance on getting stuck with him.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

It's strange that they think Charles is a better pass blocker than LJ and that's why they take him out on passing downs considering that was a knock on Charles coming in the league. Maybe LJ doesn't try hard enough to block?

 

[Disco Stu]

It's strange that they think Charles is a better pass blocker than LJ and that's why they take him out on passing downs considering that was a knock on Charles coming in the league.

Especially strange when you consider that it was Charles' blocking mistake that led to Croyle's separated shoulder.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I was shocked at how the Chiefs were platooning QBs yesterday. Reminded me of Spurrier at FLorida. They had 3 different qbs rotating in. I thought Huard was a decent backup.

 

[Maven]

The writing was on the wall and people still drafted this guy? No sympathy. The situation won't get any better in KC. You're stuck because if you sell him now you wont be getting value in return. Just ride it out.

 

[massraider]

Zero chance.

 

[plymkr]

Huard is decent. Not great, but better than anything else that they have by a wide margin. If Herminater would play him, the Chefs would be much better. I am not sure they want to be though. I think they might be vying for the #1 pick to buy Herminater a few more years befor he gets fired. The guy is an idiot. That WR they brought in to run the wishbone? Are you effen kidding me?

 

[DrJamesAndrews Fan]

LJ has always been a grinder, who usually start off slow and improves as the game goes on and the D wears down. 12 Carries is definately not enough.

 

[mggoilers]

LJ makes his living by punishing defenses and he is right about needing more carries. 12 carries is not nearly enough. Forget the YPC for a minute and think about how backs like LJ wear down defense over the course of a game. He needs 30 carries, especially with this offense.

Also, he WANTS 30 carries on this team.This is on Herm and Chan.LJ can catch the ball out of the backfield. He is their best offensive player, and he is on the sideline.What a joke.

 

[kneeshooter]

Also, he WANTS 30 carries on this team.This is on Herm and Chan.LJ can catch the ball out of the backfield. He is their best offensive player, and he is on the sideline.What a joke.

The fact that the Cheifs aren't getting the ball to LJ as much as possible is beyond comprehension. The most talented player on the team sitting out b/c of suspect pass blocking? Absurd.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Since when has Herm not run his guy into the ground? What's going on??

 

[ourmanflint]

I think this is going to come down to them getting good enough QB play to get 1 or 2 guys out of the box and make them respect the pass.

If they can keep Huard and/or Croyle healthy there is a chance LJ can become a factor.

At least Herm is stopped talking that QB rotation crap. He stated yesterday he is going to let whoever starts basically play the whole game.

 

[zamboni]

Since when has Herm not run his guy into the ground? What's going on??

That's what I'm thinking. Granted, Herm had the benefit of coaching one of the all-time great RBs/solid citizens in Curtis Martin, but even when the Jets were bad, Curtis got lots and lots of carries. I'm wondering if there is something more going on behind the scenes.

 

[ace_spaid]

he did and may have broke his future with the 400+ carry season................at what point can we feel confident in dropping him? not gonna watch many more 2 point games. i can find better than that on the waiver wire.

 

[Unlucky]

In watching the Chiefs, I don't understand why EVERY run for LJ was up the middle. Maybe it just seemed like it to me, but on the few running plays to the outside, LJ looked better. But, Herm insists on running right up the gut.

I'm quite disappointed so far. I thought LJ would have solid bounce-back season since he appears to be healthy. I underestimated how bad the situation is around him. He's only turning 29 this November, so it's not like he's definitely washed up, although it appears that way right now.

 

[Banger]

In watching the Chiefs, I don't understand why EVERY run for LJ was up the middle. Maybe it just seemed like it to me, but on the few running plays to the outside, LJ looked better. But, Herm insists on running right up the gut.

I'm quite disappointed so far. I thought LJ would have solid bounce-back season since he appears to be healthy. I underestimated how bad the situation is around him. He's only turning 29 this November, so it's not like he's definitely washed up, although it appears that way right now.

it's not him, it's the line and Qb situation.