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Any diamonds in the rough on NFL rosters? (1 Viewer)

FunkyPlutos

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Looking for homer input on players that are buried on the depth chart or practice squad that could have a decent chance of getting a shot at some playing time next season. I am in a couple dynasty leagues that allow pick ups during the offseason.

I could see Ian Johnson getting a shot with the Vikings if Chester Taylor leaves via free agency - there was a nice SI article on him this week and I love his attitude. Obviously he won't be the main guy but with the way Peterson runs (and fumbles) there is always a possibility of injury. Albert Young is a decent player for the Vikings as well, but I seem to like Johnson a bit better catching the ball.

Who ya got?

:popcorn:

 
Potential guys...

Miami WR Patrick Turner in year two...

Texans WR Jacoby Jones (maybe the light is slowly coming on)...

49ers QB Nate Davis because Smith is just good enough and answer for SF not to draft a guy, but not good enough to be the franchise guy.

Detroit WR Derrick Williams - it's all about him applying himself. If he does, the talent has been there since high school.

Seattle WR Deion Butler

Bengals TE Chase Coffman

Panthers RB Tyrell Sutton (if they trade/lose one of their two big guns)

Cardinals WR Early Doucet (he's beginning to catch the ball with his hands and if he gets that down...watch out)

Cowboys WR Kevin Ogletree (good after the catch and quick enough to be a good No.2 WR to Austin in a year or two)

 
I finished my research in my dynasty league, and these are a couple players that could see an increased role (they were all available on my league's waiver wire):

Malcom Floyd, WR Chargers: I believe he is an UFA next season. A late bloomer, he is not young (I believe 28), but he has a lot of skills. Big and fast. Unfortunately, he was the 4th option on the Chargers behind Jackson, Gates, and running backs. I think he could surprise if giving a bigger role on another team.

Legedu Naanee, WR Chargers: Will likely be inserted into the starting lineup with Floyd's likely departure. This guy catches everything thrown to him. Like Floyd, though, he will likely have to take a back seat to the aforementioned receiving options. But, he has the skills to be a solid NFL starter.

Lex Hilliard, RB Miami: When I look at running backs to pick up in my dynasty league to stash at the end of my roster, I want players who have impressed in their limited action. Hilliard fits the bill. All alot of players need is opportunity, and Hilliard has made the most of his.

Mike Thomas, WR Jacksonville: Only knock is his size, but the opportunity is there. He will only get better.

 
:thumbup: and a good list so far. I would add:

Shawn Nelson - I see a high ceiling on a TE that is very athletic. Lost time due to concussion but has made plays this season.

Early Doucet could be something if Boldin is traded

I agree on Ogletree and Naanee above.

 
Potential guys...Miami WR Patrick Turner in year two...Texans WR Jacoby Jones (maybe the light is slowly coming on)...49ers QB Nate Davis because Smith is just good enough and answer for SF not to draft a guy, but not good enough to be the franchise guy. Detroit WR Derrick Williams - it's all about him applying himself. If he does, the talent has been there since high school.Seattle WR Deion ButlerBengals TE Chase CoffmanPanthers RB Tyrell Sutton (if they trade/lose one of their two big guns)Cardinals WR Early Doucet (he's beginning to catch the ball with his hands and if he gets that down...watch out)Cowboys WR Kevin Ogletree (good after the catch and quick enough to be a good No.2 WR to Austin in a year or two)
I'm surprised to read anyone high on Turner, I see a looks like Tarzan plays like Jane when I watch him.Also curious why Coffman? The only shred of optimism I can find here is that he was hurt this offseason and a healthy offseason and lack of play makers and talent at TE at Carson's disposal could lead to an opportunity.I really, really like the rest of them though.
 
I finished my research in my dynasty league, and these are a couple players that could see an increased role (they were all available on my league's waiver wire):

Malcom Floyd, WR Chargers: I believe he is an UFA next season. A late bloomer, he is not young (I believe 28), but he has a lot of skills. Big and fast. Unfortunately, he was the 4th option on the Chargers behind Jackson, Gates, and running backs. I think he could surprise if giving a bigger role on another team.

Legedu Naanee, WR Chargers: Will likely be inserted into the starting lineup with Floyd's likely departure. This guy catches everything thrown to him. Like Floyd, though, he will likely have to take a back seat to the aforementioned receiving options. But, he has the skills to be a solid NFL starter.

Lex Hilliard, RB Miami: When I look at running backs to pick up in my dynasty league to stash at the end of my roster, I want players who have impressed in their limited action. Hilliard fits the bill. All alot of players need is opportunity, and Hilliard has made the most of his.

Mike Thomas, WR Jacksonville: Only knock is his size, but the opportunity is there. He will only get better.
I thought Floyd was a RFA, no? Still, been monitoring both of them for a while and I agree with your take on both.Thomas has a QB problem, once that is fixed I think we'll see what he's made of. A part of me hopes the Jags don't fix that problem in 2010 so I have an opportunity to get him in my dyno's.

 
Some might think he's a flash in the pan simply because he got playing time due to others injuries but WR Devin Aromashodu could become a starter next year, at least according to Lovie Smith, who may or may not be the head coach of the Bears next year. Still I like this guys upside . He's 6'2" and only 25 y.o. and Cutler is enamored with him. All good QB's have their go to guys i.e., Manning/Wayne, Brady/Moss&Welker, Romo/Austin, Brees/Colston just to name a few. I think this kid could help improve Cutler as a QB too.

You can bet Devin will get extensive work in the off-season and T.C. The Bears may just have found their diamond in the rough. I'm not sold on Hester as a #1 receiver as he's still learning the position. Bennett has some history with Cutler but don't think he's a #1 guy. They drafted Johnny Know last year and he had a productive year with 527 yds/ 5 td's as a rookie. I think come week 1 next year you'll find that Devin Aromashodu and Johnny Knox will be the starting WR's for the Bears.

D.A. is 6'2" and Knox is 6'1" so Cutler will have a couple of nice sized receivers to throw to.All this may be moot if Cutler doesn't improve on his game as well. He needs to cut down the INT's and be able to go through his progressions on receivers after the snap and not just zone in on one guy. If Cutler improves, he's only been there a year, and they get the running game going again with Forte and they way he rushed 2 years ago I think they could have two pretty good starting WR's in Aromashodu and Knox.

 
We're doing a show on The Audible about this very topic tomorrow.

Ogletree will definitely be on the list, he was a player we covered at Draftguys.

Some deep sleepers, and practice squad players will be discussed.

One of my favorite shows of the year! :goodposting:

 
Bucs,

Huggins, Kareem RB 5-9 198 05/24/1986 R Hofstra Irvington, NJ

Ward is pretty much the only RB guaranteed to return. From seeing how little they used EG last season, I would think he would be the odd man out. I think Caddy somehow returns. That's 2 solid backs, but Caddy will always be an injury risk imo. If one of them gets injured you could see a guy like Huggins get some action. I don't think Clifton Smith made enough of his opportunities in the backfield to be considered a legitimate option.

Also, Jeff Faine made a comment about "keeping an eye out for this guy," in some interview I read a while back.

 
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I finished my research in my dynasty league, and these are a couple players that could see an increased role (they were all available on my league's waiver wire):

Malcom Floyd, WR Chargers: I believe he is an UFA next season. A late bloomer, he is not young (I believe 28), but he has a lot of skills. Big and fast. Unfortunately, he was the 4th option on the Chargers behind Jackson, Gates, and running backs. I think he could surprise if giving a bigger role on another team.

Legedu Naanee, WR Chargers: Will likely be inserted into the starting lineup with Floyd's likely departure. This guy catches everything thrown to him. Like Floyd, though, he will likely have to take a back seat to the aforementioned receiving options. But, he has the skills to be a solid NFL starter.

Lex Hilliard, RB Miami: When I look at running backs to pick up in my dynasty league to stash at the end of my roster, I want players who have impressed in their limited action. Hilliard fits the bill. All alot of players need is opportunity, and Hilliard has made the most of his.

Mike Thomas, WR Jacksonville: Only knock is his size, but the opportunity is there. He will only get better.
Good call on Naanee, this is guy is very good and just needs more opportunities. The coach and front office both like this guy.
 
Here's a list of some of the players we'll cover on the Dynasty Year End Special...

BUF

Brian Brohm, QB

Shaun Nelson, TE

Steve Johnson, WR

James Hardy, WR

MIA

Kory Sheets, RB

Lex Hilliard, RB

Kory Sperry, TE

Patrick Turner, WR



NE

BenJarvus Green-Ellis, RB

Brandon Tate, WR

Rob Meyers, TE - !practice squad!

NYJ

Wallace Wright, WR

BAL

Troy Smith, QB

Jalen Parmele, RB

Davon Drew, TE - !practice squad!

CLE

Brett Ratliff, QB

Thomas Davis, RB - !practice squad!

James Davis, RB

CIN

Chase Coffman, TE

PIT

Isaac Redman, RB - !practice squad!

HOU

James Casey, TE

Jeremiah Johnson, RB

IND

Mike Hart, RB

John Matthews, WR - !practice squad!

JAC

Zach Miller, TE

Tiquan Underwood, WR

Josh Vaughan, RB - !practice squad!

TEN

Javon Ringer, RB

Dominique Edison, WR

DEN

Tom Brandstater, QB

Richard Quinn, TE

Kenny McKinley, WR

KC

Devard Darling, WR

Brad Cottam, TE

OAK

Paul Hubbard, WR - !practice squad!

SD

Charlie Whitehurst, QB

Buster Davis, WR

Demetrius Byrd, WR

DAL

Stephen McGee, QB

Kevin Ogletree, WR

Herb Donaldson, RB - !practice squad!

Jesse Holley, WR - !practice squad!

Manuel Johnson, WR - !practice squad!

NYG

Travis Beckum, TE

Ramses Barden, WR

Andre Brown, RB

PHI

Jordan Norwood, WR - !practice squad!

Dobson Collins, WR - !practice squad!

WAS

P.J. Hill, RB

Anthony Alridge, RB - !practice squad!

CHI

Khalil Bell, RB

Kellen Davis, TE

Devin Aromashodu, WR

DET

Aaron Brown, RB

Cedric Peerman, RB

Derrick Williams, WR

GB

Kregg Lumpkin, RB - !practice squad!

MIN

Albert Young, RB

Jaymar Johnson, WR

Ian Johnson, RB - !practice squad!

ATL

Antone Smith, RB - !practice squad!

CAR

Tyrell Sutton, RB

Mike Goodson, RB

Devin Moore, RB - !practice squad!

Dexter Jackson, WR - !practice squad!

NO

Lynell Hamilton, RB

Chase Daniel, QB - !practice squad!

Adrian Arrington, WR - !practice squad!

TB

Josh Johnson, QB

Rudy Carpenter, QB

Sammie Stroughter, WR

Mario Urritia, WR

AZ

LaRod Stephens-Howling, RB

Early Doucet, WR

STL

Brandon Gibson, WR

Danny Amendola, WR

Laurent Robinson, WR

SF

Nate Davis, QB

SEA

Mike Teel, QB

Deon Butler, WR

Xavier Omon, RB - !practice squad!

enjoy! :excited:

We will be recording a special Saturday edition of The Audible! I'll post the episode here in the SP when I'm done editing it! :hot:

 
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I finished my research in my dynasty league, and these are a couple players that could see an increased role (they were all available on my league's waiver wire):

Malcom Floyd, WR Chargers: I believe he is an UFA next season. A late bloomer, he is not young (I believe 28), but he has a lot of skills. Big and fast. Unfortunately, he was the 4th option on the Chargers behind Jackson, Gates, and running backs. I think he could surprise if giving a bigger role on another team.

Legedu Naanee, WR Chargers: Will likely be inserted into the starting lineup with Floyd's likely departure. This guy catches everything thrown to him. Like Floyd, though, he will likely have to take a back seat to the aforementioned receiving options. But, he has the skills to be a solid NFL starter.

Lex Hilliard, RB Miami: When I look at running backs to pick up in my dynasty league to stash at the end of my roster, I want players who have impressed in their limited action. Hilliard fits the bill. All alot of players need is opportunity, and Hilliard has made the most of his.

Mike Thomas, WR Jacksonville: Only knock is his size, but the opportunity is there. He will only get better.
Good call on Naanee, this is guy is very good and just needs more opportunities. The coach and front office both like this guy.
Floyd is a RFA depending on the CBA i bleieve. And Naanne is a favorite there, but dont overlook Buster Davis. He has been inactive all season but he was a guy they liked enough to pick in the 1st rd. He is still young and i would guess he gets a shot if Floyd leaves.
 
If H.Ward is getting less and less effective, I know he's had a hamstring injury but this could be the start of his slide finally, I see M.Wallace as someone who you wish you had on your fantasy team (check his stats next to Harvin and there is not much difference other than Harvin's special team TD's). He plays hard and does have that connection with Ben when he gets flushed out of the pocket, kind of like what Santonio has with him now, and the kid is very fast also so speed makes this kid real dangerous too.

Look out for Wallace in the next couple years and possibly coming up big next year if Ward slides, which is very possible.

 
If H.Ward is getting less and less effective, I know he's had a hamstring injury but this could be the start of his slide finally, I see M.Wallace as someone who you wish you had on your fantasy team (check his stats next to Harvin and there is not much difference other than Harvin's special team TD's). He plays hard and does have that connection with Ben when he gets flushed out of the pocket, kind of like what Santonio has with him now, and the kid is very fast also so speed makes this kid real dangerous too.

Look out for Wallace in the next couple years and possibly coming up big next year if Ward slides, which is very possible.
I agree with you on Wallace, but I don't think he's on the waivers on any but the shallowest dynasty league. The guy is worth a lot right now, you'd have to give up a decent amount to get him.
 
49ers QB Nate Davis because Smith is just good enough and answer for SF not to draft a guy, but not good enough to be the franchise guy.
Davis barely got any reps in practice this year, and the Niners like Shaun Hill as a backup. Unless Smith & Hill get hurt, or the team gets off to a terrible start and starts playing for the future early on, I don't see how Davis will get any meaningful playing time next year (and all this is assuming they don't draft another QB).
 
If he's still out there I'd be grabbing up Dolphins WR Brian Hartline.

According to the Dolphins website, he has moved past Ted Ginn Jr. on the depth chart, and for good reason:

Player-------Rec yrds avg lg td

Ted Ginn Jr. 35 434 12.4 53 1

B. Hartline 29 472 16.3 67 3

I projected such a thing just prior to the season in some sort of rookie sleeper thread (or the like) and got snubbed for the most part.

In the same posting I also mentioned fellow Buckeye Brian Robiskie in Cleveland, who may very well be another if Furrey leaves and they straighten out their QB situation.

ETA: Found the post- http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...&p=10752243

ETA again: Just found this-

Absent a cap [in 2010], players such as Jason Allen and Ted Ginn Jr. might become luxuries the Dolphins don't want to keep paying.

Ginn, the ninth player selected in the 2007 NFL Draft, regressed this season. His production is down, his dropped passes are up, and he is as inconsistent as ever. That would signal trouble in a a typical year, but it can be devastating entering an uncapped year because the $5.8 million in accelerated bonuses it could otherwise cost to cut Ginn aren't a factor.

In an uncapped year, that $5.8 million virtually disappears and threatens Ginn's security in Miami unless he gives the team a good reason to keep him.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football...ry/1407005.html

 
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If he's still out there I'd be grabbing up Dolphins WR Brian Hartline.

According to the Dolphins website, he has moved past Ted Ginn Jr. on the depth chart, and for good reason:

Player-------Rec yrds avg lg td

Ted Ginn Jr. 35 434 12.4 53 1

B. Hartline 29 472 16.3 67 3

I projected such a thing just prior to the season in some sort of rookie sleeper thread (or the like) and got snubbed for the most part.

In the same posting I also mentioned fellow Buckeye Brian Robiskie in Cleveland, who may very well be another if Furrey leaves and they straighten out their QB situation.

ETA: Found the post- http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...&p=10752243

ETA again: Just found this-

Absent a cap [in 2010], players such as Jason Allen and Ted Ginn Jr. might become luxuries the Dolphins don't want to keep paying.

Ginn, the ninth player selected in the 2007 NFL Draft, regressed this season. His production is down, his dropped passes are up, and he is as inconsistent as ever. That would signal trouble in a a typical year, but it can be devastating entering an uncapped year because the $5.8 million in accelerated bonuses it could otherwise cost to cut Ginn aren't a factor.

In an uncapped year, that $5.8 million virtually disappears and threatens Ginn's security in Miami unless he gives the team a good reason to keep him.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football...ry/1407005.html
Any other ones out there

Marcus Mason SD?

James Davis Cle?

PJ Hill Wash

 
If you want to take a huge flier on a QB, I like Nate Davis (who's a moderately deep sleeper), Brian Brohm (a very deep sleeper), and Tom Brandstater (practically comatose). Davis has the least competition in front of him, plays in a friendly system, and has drawn positive reviews. Brohm hasn't generated much in terms of positive buzz during his 2 year career, but he's a former 2nd round draft pick entering his 3rd season and with no real NFL QBs ahead of him on the depth chart- that's worth a flier just on the off chance that he's not as terrible as anyone thinks. Brandstater is a late round prospect without any real buzz to him, but he's behind Kyle Orton (who only has 1 year left on his deal) and Brady Quinn (who only has 1 or 2 years left on his deal), so there's always a chance he gets some opportunity to show what he's got this next year, especially if Denver is out of it early

Edit: I really, really like Brandon Tate as a high-upside prospect. He has quality 1st or 2nd round skills, was drafted high by the Patriots (an organization generally known for quality talent evaluation) even though they knew he was coming off a major injury and would be a non-factor as a rookie, and was one of the best returners in NCAA history. If he winds up becoming a quality NFL WR, he'll be hitting his stride just as Moss and Welker are losing theirs, which means there's an opportunity for him to grow into a nice role on a quality passing offense.

 
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Washington WR's RB's QB....

Shanny will make a few relevant players out of that mess

Jason Campbell

Larry Johnson

Clinton Portis

Devin Thomas

Malcolm Kelly

Santana Moss

 
The Falcons' Harry Douglas has a chance to take over #2 this year over Jenkins and, even it he doesn't, could still be a big sleeper. I've heard Dimitroff specifically talk about him in a Welker type role. Also keep an eye on Eric Weems, especially if you get return yardage, he could play a significant role and has shown real potential.

 
The Stars will have to align almost perfectly for Nate Davis toget any significant playing time. The only way he'll see the field on s regular basis is if Smith and Carr get hurt or play horribly. Could happen but I'm bettin' it doesn't. There is however a diamond in the rough on the 49ers. Defenses will certainly be keying in on Crabtree and Vernon Davis. Frank Gore's gonna get his regardless. So with the focus on those 3 look for WR Josh Morgan to capitalize and take advantage of the attention paid to the other 3 guys. Not saying he'll be a stud because I still believe that Gore,Crabtree and Davis are gonna put up decent numbers. Still I don't think it's out of the question the Josh Morgan could end up with 60-70 catches, 800+ yds and 5-7tds. I'd definitely take that from a #3 WR on my fantasy team. You can bet the 49ers are gonna be throwing the ball this year and Gore could have the highest total of his career in receptions.So if Morgan takes off and produces followed by the production we'll get from Gore,Crabtree and Davis, with those 4 combined and Smithtossing the rock looks like a good chance at a division title. Smith never really got going until week 7 and ended up with 18 td's on the year. If he gets a full year of play he could throw 23-26 td's which would be good enough to make him a top 15 QB.

 
Here's a list of some of the players we'll cover on the Dynasty Year End Special...

STL

Brandon Gibson, WR

Danny Amendola, WR

Laurent Robinson, WR
:confused: Looking forward to the Dynasty Special!As for the Rams, that's pretty much how I see it too. There's a lot of nice players on the roster, but I think the starting spots are far from set in stone. Donnie Avery is probably one of them, and the news about him changing his diet and bulking up 14lbs since the end of the season are encouraging, but I have no clue about the other starting spot. Brandon Gibson made a few really nice catches in his short time with the team, so I'd definitely keep an eye on him.

 
ATL

Antone Smith, RB - !practice squad!
This is a guy who might be worth stashing in deep dynasty leagues. He's looked great running the ball and catching so far this preseason and he's only 24.In his senior year in HS he rushed for 2,814 yards and 44 TD's!!! He was the #1 ranked RB in the nation coming out of HS in a class that included Jonathan Stewart.

At the Florida State pro day he blazed a 4.32 in the 40, benched 32 reps, and had a 36" vert. Even in a time share while at FSU, he rushed for the 5th most yards in FSU history.

If he were on a more RB desperate team he'd probably be getting more playing time as atleast a change of pace, 3rd down back.

 
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Bucs,Huggins, Kareem RB 5-9 198 05/24/1986 R Hofstra Irvington, NJWard is pretty much the only RB guaranteed to return. From seeing how little they used EG last season, I would think he would be the odd man out. I think Caddy somehow returns. That's 2 solid backs, but Caddy will always be an injury risk imo. If one of them gets injured you could see a guy like Huggins get some action. I don't think Clifton Smith made enough of his opportunities in the backfield to be considered a legitimate option.Also, Jeff Faine made a comment about "keeping an eye out for this guy," in some interview I read a while back.
:hophead:
 

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