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any news on Ricky Williams? (1 Viewer)
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Word is that nobody from Dolphins has talked to him since Saban left.
From the Herald, via SI.com:
Not only have the Dolphins not contacted Ricky Williams since Nick Saban left, they haven't told his reps if they plan to keep or trade him. His NFL reinstatement -- provided he doesn't stumble -- is set for mid-April.
-- Miami Herald
From the Herald, via SI.com:
Not only have the Dolphins not contacted Ricky Williams since Nick Saban left, they haven't told his reps if they plan to keep or trade him. His NFL reinstatement -- provided he doesn't stumble -- is set for mid-April.
-- Miami Herald
bcr8f
Footballguy
No he isn't. The last story I read has him staying in the US and being tested 3 times a week. He is at 220, wants to play and is healthy.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
OK
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Lord of the Rings
Footballguy
Interesting discussion going on at Finheaven.com. Packers seem to be interested. Dolphin fans disagree as to whether or not we should keep Ricky "Up in Smoke" Williams or try and unload him while we still have a chance.
http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=186783
http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=186783
TheFanatic
Footballguy
How hard was it to scan about a third of the way down the blogger page to find this link?Come on people. Do a little leg work on your own. Everything this guy said is repeated in this article. Considering he is much more talented than Ronnie Brown, he's going to play this year....
Exile
Footballguy
The timing of his (likely) reinstatement is interesting since it happens right before the draft. I think it's likely the Dolphins simply hold onto him since his talent and very low salary outway his likely value in trade. But if he is reinstated, that makes a draft weekend trade possible at least.
Interesting. Thanks for the link....I'll keep beating the drum about this:
Ricky looked BETTER than Ronnie Brown when they were both in the same backfield in 2005. I have no doubt that Ricky can still hang in the NFL. He's an EXCELLENT Buy Low in dynasty leagues right now.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
yes, but that was Ronnie's first year and trying to figure out what to do. Ricky is 2 years older now as well and didn't light up the CFL last year.
Im not saying he's still better than Ronnie - just reminding everyone that Ricky was still a fine back when he last surfaced in the NFL.
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Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Ok, then I agree with you :whoosh:
bcr8f
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Didn't he fail miserably in Canada last year?
RUN RICKY RUN
I was shocked when I heard he's still getting tested 3X per week.
Says he's currently about 220 llbs.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...SPG5KODA3M1.DTL
"This is where Ricky Williams spends his non-football days, teaching (without pay) and studying yoga and its many elements, such as meditation, spiritualism and positivism.
Though most come to the yoga farm to collect their thoughts, a man from the NFL's drug-testing lab comes here two or three times each week from Oakland to collect Ricky Williams' urine. As a four-time loser in the NFL drug-test lottery, and still on suspension, Williams gets cut no slack.
Yes, Williams hopes to play football in the NFL this year. Soon, he will petition the NFL commissioner for reinstatement, having been suspended in '06 for flunking that fourth drug test."
I was shocked when I heard he's still getting tested 3X per week.
Says he's currently about 220 llbs.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...SPG5KODA3M1.DTL
"This is where Ricky Williams spends his non-football days, teaching (without pay) and studying yoga and its many elements, such as meditation, spiritualism and positivism.
Though most come to the yoga farm to collect their thoughts, a man from the NFL's drug-testing lab comes here two or three times each week from Oakland to collect Ricky Williams' urine. As a four-time loser in the NFL drug-test lottery, and still on suspension, Williams gets cut no slack.
Yes, Williams hopes to play football in the NFL this year. Soon, he will petition the NFL commissioner for reinstatement, having been suspended in '06 for flunking that fourth drug test."
Stealthycat
Footballguy
" He is at 220, wants to play and is healthy."
I've read that for 3 years now ......... YOU draft him or trade for him if you want to, me ? no thank you
I've read that for 3 years now ......... YOU draft him or trade for him if you want to, me ? no thank you
bcr8f
Footballguy
I picked him up on waivers and have til the season to keep him or drop him. Cost me 1 contract year. My RB's are SJax, Rudi, Bush and Ricky if I decide to keep him. It's a small gamble, but I hope he does have his life back together. When suspendfed it wasn't for pot.
Kit Fisto
Footballguy
I have stashed him away on my dynasty rosters. It cost me nothing to pick him up at the trade/waive deadline, and if he works out, it was a brilliant move. If he never plays another down in the NFL... again, it cost me nothing.
His risk/reward is LIGHTYEARS better than some of the scrubs I see getting picked up and held onto for years waiting to bust out.
His risk/reward is LIGHTYEARS better than some of the scrubs I see getting picked up and held onto for years waiting to bust out.
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identikit
Footballguy
Wandering wookie
Footballguy
after reading that letter by VB, I may just draft him for the principal.
fatness
Footballguy
Thank you. I never would have seen this picture if not for that link. :X
bcr8f
Footballguy
He is flaky, but since he wasn't suspended for pot the last time I'll give him one more shot.
Ozymandias
Footballguy
He's one year older, he didn't set the CFL on fire, he's a threat to pipe anytime, and he's nutty as a fruitcake.
What's not to like?
What's not to like?
Something about Ricky and the word "stash" in the same sentence just makes me a little uncomfortable....
identikit
Footballguy
Sooooo...
If it was meth, coke, heroin, and/or PCP, it'd be less risk than pot....
Interesting...
Id
bcr8f
Footballguy
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identikit
Footballguy
Then don't take them. Ricky took those, or are you just an apologist?
Given the way the Fins seem to be trying to change the culture and build through the draft, you'd think they'd take a mid-round pick for Ricky. They seem to be trying to change things up in the locker room, so I could see them wanting to move on and make Ricky someone else's problem.
bcr8f
Footballguy
They may. Bringing in Schlesinger may help, but Ronnie Brown hasn't been a model on health yet. He may be with a bigger blocking FB, but they may keep him just to be safe.
Aaronstory
Footballguy
Thanks for the read.Why is every fan message board populated by people who put exclamation marks after every single sentence?
About his stats in Canada:109 attempts for 526 yards (4.8 ypc) with 2 TDs in ? games (I thought it was 4, but it was probably more as he likely played in the 2nd half of the season). Most backs in the CFL average over 5 YPC (the average of the top 10 "carries" backs was 5.35 yards per carry). For point of reference, John Avery who couldn't make it in the NFL (played for Dolphins and Broncos) finished the year with 432 yards and a 5.3 ypc filling in for the injured Ricky Williams, and also scored 2 touchdowns.
Unfortunately the CFL site didn't update the player news after the midpoint of the season...
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Liquid Tension
Footballguy
You twice responded to this type of comment...Ricky was taking herbs and they were not for getting high or steroid types, they were natural healing that was not to get a competitive advantage. Point is that he was off teh stuff back then.Personally, I don't know why the league drug tests for marijuana, it is like alcohol and if someone wants to take that it isn't going to make them play any better.
I don't completely disagree with the sentiment, but I'd rather move him for a decent draft pick to plug the holes they've got (especially OL) through the draft. Sure, he may be a nice backup for a year or two, but if you can move him and find a guy who will at least be a rotation/special teams player for the next 3-4 years, I think you do it. I think there's plenty of guys you can plug in at RB2 and have some success, especially if you upgrade your line enough.
salmonstud
Footballguy
Marijuana is currently illegal....the NFL is trying to discourage players from breaking the law.....which is image related....nothing to do with the drug effecting on the field performance.
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identikit
Footballguy
Salmonstud said:
Marijuana is currently illegal....the NFL is trying to discourage players from breaking the law.....which is image related....nothing to do with the drug effecting on the field performance.
Exactly...
It's illegal, and jeopardizes your current and future employment.
And, not that it matters a whole lot, but I'm suspect of the herb (aka twinkie) defense.
Id
Marijuana is currently illegal....the NFL is trying to discourage players from breaking the law.....which is image related....nothing to do with the drug effecting on the field performance.
Exactly...
It's illegal, and jeopardizes your current and future employment.
And, not that it matters a whole lot, but I'm suspect of the herb (aka twinkie) defense.
Id
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bcr8f
Footballguy
Blackjacks
Footballguy
How hard was it to scan about a third of the way down the blogger page to find this link?Come on people. Do a little leg work on your own. Everything this guy said is repeated in this article. Considering he is much more talented than Ronnie Brown, he's going to play this year....
I think you've been stealing some of Ricky's stash and smoking it to make these comments.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Ricky Williams-RB- Dolphins Mar. 15 - 10:22 am et
Ricky Williams is eligible for reinstatement to the NFL in April.
Profootballtalk.com points out that getting reinstated won't be a no-brainer for Williams, who's violated the league's substance-abuse policy multiple times. New commissioner Roger Goodell has also come off as having little tolerance for off-field issues early in his tenure. Williams will be owed a lowly $595,000 base salary if he plays in 2007.
Source: Profootballtalk.com
Ricky Williams is eligible for reinstatement to the NFL in April.
Profootballtalk.com points out that getting reinstated won't be a no-brainer for Williams, who's violated the league's substance-abuse policy multiple times. New commissioner Roger Goodell has also come off as having little tolerance for off-field issues early in his tenure. Williams will be owed a lowly $595,000 base salary if he plays in 2007.
Source: Profootballtalk.com
TheFanatic
Footballguy
And I think you are a delusional Brown owner hoping to God that Ricky doesn't come back. Either that or that someone in our league is stupid enough to trade what you think is market value for the guy. And don't act like you aren't at all worried about Ricky eating into Ronnie's carries. You have had Ronnie on the block for weeks now hoping anyone will take him off your hands. I've made numerous posts on why it makes perfect sense for him to play this year but you don't offer any dispute of those points other than over done bad insults.How hard was it to scan about a third of the way down the blogger page to find this link?Come on people. Do a little leg work on your own. Everything this guy said is repeated in this article. Considering he is much more talented than Ronnie Brown, he's going to play this year....
I think you've been stealing some of Ricky's stash and smoking it to make these comments.
Let me sum up again. Ricky costs the Dolphins practically nothing to have in uniform this year. He is getting tested 3 times a week and has been clean for over a year. With the former O-Line coach of the Chargers in Miami, I would think that Ricky would fit the mold of an LT more than Brown. Not quite the pass catcher that LT is but more in terms of running style. The league is moving to a 1-2 punch at RB more and more these days. The Colts won the SB with that method. Since Brown hasn't been able to stay healty and was most productive in a 2 back system at Auburn one would think having Ricky there would be a no brainer.
You can face the fact that you overpaid for Brown and accept that he's not the wonderful talent you expected him to be or you can keep throwing lame insults and bulk smiley's at me.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
He will be a 30 year old rb on opening day this season coming off of a broken leg. I'm sure that's something the new coaching staff wants to build his team around. If Ricky comes back he might get some carries, I'm not saying he won't but it will be in a backup role. I was laughing at the fact that you think it will be a rbbc at best for Brown. I don't know why you would think this. The Dolphins picked Brown #2 overall to be their rb for the future. He has not disappointed at all in his 2 years except for a nagging injury in his 1st year and a broken hand. If you want to say he is injury prone for the first years' incident I could agree but breaking your hand in another players' facemask I put up there in the freak injury category. If he can't stay healthy let me ask you a ?. Do you think the Bears are going to give Peterson alot of carries since Benson has clearly shown the inconsistency to stay healthy? My guess is you'll find a reason to justify that answer cause you own him. Here is the facts Scotty. Ricky is 30 years old and can't be counted ondue to off the field issues, he is coming off a broken leg and hasn't played in the nfl for a year. Ronnie is younger and has more invested him. These are facts, now you can think what you want but I'll be just fine pimping Brown in the offseason cause he will back it up just fine.Also, I've offered Brown to 2 people in our league and both times it is only because he is up at the end of the year and I probably couldn't protect him. Again, that is the only reason. (Chad and Art...that's it.)And I think you are a delusional Brown owner hoping to God that Ricky doesn't come back. Either that or that someone in our league is stupid enough to trade what you think is market value for the guy. And don't act like you aren't at all worried about Ricky eating into Ronnie's carries. You have had Ronnie on the block for weeks now hoping anyone will take him off your hands. I've made numerous posts on why it makes perfect sense for him to play this year but you don't offer any dispute of those points other than over done bad insults.How hard was it to scan about a third of the way down the blogger page to find this link?Come on people. Do a little leg work on your own. Everything this guy said is repeated in this article. Considering he is much more talented than Ronnie Brown, he's going to play this year....
I think you've been stealing some of Ricky's stash and smoking it to make these comments.
Let me sum up again. Ricky costs the Dolphins practically nothing to have in uniform this year. He is getting tested 3 times a week and has been clean for over a year. With the former O-Line coach of the Chargers in Miami, I would think that Ricky would fit the mold of an LT more than Brown. Not quite the pass catcher that LT is but more in terms of running style. The league is moving to a 1-2 punch at RB more and more these days. The Colts won the SB with that method. Since Brown hasn't been able to stay healty and was most productive in a 2 back system at Auburn one would think having Ricky there would be a no brainer.
You can face the fact that you overpaid for Brown and accept that he's not the wonderful talent you expected him to be or you can keep throwing lame insults and bulk smiley's at me.
I think Bill and I were talking about some scenario's about him but nothing was actually offered.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
No, the Phins are not going to build around Ricky. But they will use him. Brown has never played 16 games. Not in College and not in the pros. And more than that he's not that talented. Ricky is the better back. He's older but he's better. And the 30 year ceiling on RB's has been shattered. RB's can play beyond the age of 30.Brown actually played better with Ricky in the lineup. He had more YPC with another RB complimenting him. The same happened in college.He will be a 30 year old rb on opening day this season coming off of a broken leg. I'm sure that's something the new coaching staff wants to build his team around. If Ricky comes back he might get some carries, I'm not saying he won't but it will be in a backup role. I was laughing at the fact that you think it will be a rbbc at best for Brown. I don't know why you would think this. The Dolphins picked Brown #2 overall to be their rb for the future. He has not disappointed at all in his 2 years except for a nagging injury in his 1st year and a broken hand. If you want to say he is injury prone for the first years' incident I could agree but breaking your hand in another players' facemask I put up there in the freak injury category. If he can't stay healthy let me ask you a ?. Do you think the Bears are going to give Peterson alot of carries since Benson has clearly shown the inconsistency to stay healthy? My guess is you'll find a reason to justify that answer cause you own him. Here is the facts Scotty. Ricky is 30 years old and can't be counted ondue to off the field issues, he is coming off a broken leg and hasn't played in the nfl for a year. Ronnie is younger and has more invested him. These are facts, now you can think what you want but I'll be just fine pimping Brown in the offseason cause he will back it up just fine.Also, I've offered Brown to 2 people in our league and both times it is only because he is up at the end of the year and I probably couldn't protect him. Again, that is the only reason. (Chad and Art...that's it.)And I think you are a delusional Brown owner hoping to God that Ricky doesn't come back. Either that or that someone in our league is stupid enough to trade what you think is market value for the guy. And don't act like you aren't at all worried about Ricky eating into Ronnie's carries. You have had Ronnie on the block for weeks now hoping anyone will take him off your hands. I've made numerous posts on why it makes perfect sense for him to play this year but you don't offer any dispute of those points other than over done bad insults.How hard was it to scan about a third of the way down the blogger page to find this link?Come on people. Do a little leg work on your own. Everything this guy said is repeated in this article. Considering he is much more talented than Ronnie Brown, he's going to play this year....
I think you've been stealing some of Ricky's stash and smoking it to make these comments.
Let me sum up again. Ricky costs the Dolphins practically nothing to have in uniform this year. He is getting tested 3 times a week and has been clean for over a year. With the former O-Line coach of the Chargers in Miami, I would think that Ricky would fit the mold of an LT more than Brown. Not quite the pass catcher that LT is but more in terms of running style. The league is moving to a 1-2 punch at RB more and more these days. The Colts won the SB with that method. Since Brown hasn't been able to stay healty and was most productive in a 2 back system at Auburn one would think having Ricky there would be a no brainer.
You can face the fact that you overpaid for Brown and accept that he's not the wonderful talent you expected him to be or you can keep throwing lame insults and bulk smiley's at me.
I think Bill and I were talking about some scenario's about him but nothing was actually offered.
And you can try to make comparisons to Benson, but Benson has not been given the ball for a year on his own like Brown did last year.
But good luck with Brown. I'm sure he'll lead you to yet another losing season. How many is that in a row now? Got to be close to 6 right?
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Good facts 
You go right ahead thinking Ricky is still the better back than Brown I guess we'll find out during the season.
I looked through your predictions you sent me last year for our league over/unders and alot of stuff you wrote on this site and I finally realized if you don't think Brown is going to be good I should be happy with you, thank you. Now do you think you can start ripping on Portis and Bush as well please.
All Hail The Fanatic!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW: Only 3 losing seasons in a row
You go right ahead thinking Ricky is still the better back than Brown I guess we'll find out during the season.
I looked through your predictions you sent me last year for our league over/unders and alot of stuff you wrote on this site and I finally realized if you don't think Brown is going to be good I should be happy with you, thank you. Now do you think you can start ripping on Portis and Bush as well please.
All Hail The Fanatic!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW: Only 3 losing seasons in a row
Kit Fisto
Footballguy
You two should get a room.
Didn't Ricky break his arm, not his leg?
I gotta agre with TheFanatic however; Ronnie Brown might be a bit overrated (we'll see this year), and yes, should Ricky come back to the Dolphins, Brown's carries are gonna get reduced. No getting around that.
Didn't Ricky break his arm, not his leg?
I gotta agre with TheFanatic however; Ronnie Brown might be a bit overrated (we'll see this year), and yes, should Ricky come back to the Dolphins, Brown's carries are gonna get reduced. No getting around that.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I thought it was a leg. Agree to diagree.I know we are acting like children, sorry.
Zoomanji
Footballguy
It was his arm
Trey
Footballguy
No, the Phins are not going to build around Ricky. But they will use him. Brown has never played 16 games. Not in College and not in the pros. And more than that he's not that talented. Ricky is the better back. He's older but he's better. And the 30 year ceiling on RB's has been shattered. RB's can play beyond the age of 30.Brown actually played better with Ricky in the lineup. He had more YPC with another RB complimenting him. The same happened in college.He will be a 30 year old rb on opening day this season coming off of a broken leg. I'm sure that's something the new coaching staff wants to build his team around. If Ricky comes back he might get some carries, I'm not saying he won't but it will be in a backup role. I was laughing at the fact that you think it will be a rbbc at best for Brown. I don't know why you would think this. The Dolphins picked Brown #2 overall to be their rb for the future. He has not disappointed at all in his 2 years except for a nagging injury in his 1st year and a broken hand. If you want to say he is injury prone for the first years' incident I could agree but breaking your hand in another players' facemask I put up there in the freak injury category. If he can't stay healthy let me ask you a ?. Do you think the Bears are going to give Peterson alot of carries since Benson has clearly shown the inconsistency to stay healthy? My guess is you'll find a reason to justify that answer cause you own him. Here is the facts Scotty. Ricky is 30 years old and can't be counted ondue to off the field issues, he is coming off a broken leg and hasn't played in the nfl for a year. Ronnie is younger and has more invested him. These are facts, now you can think what you want but I'll be just fine pimping Brown in the offseason cause he will back it up just fine.Also, I've offered Brown to 2 people in our league and both times it is only because he is up at the end of the year and I probably couldn't protect him. Again, that is the only reason. (Chad and Art...that's it.)And I think you are a delusional Brown owner hoping to God that Ricky doesn't come back. Either that or that someone in our league is stupid enough to trade what you think is market value for the guy. And don't act like you aren't at all worried about Ricky eating into Ronnie's carries. You have had Ronnie on the block for weeks now hoping anyone will take him off your hands. I've made numerous posts on why it makes perfect sense for him to play this year but you don't offer any dispute of those points other than over done bad insults.How hard was it to scan about a third of the way down the blogger page to find this link?Come on people. Do a little leg work on your own. Everything this guy said is repeated in this article. Considering he is much more talented than Ronnie Brown, he's going to play this year....
I think you've been stealing some of Ricky's stash and smoking it to make these comments.
Let me sum up again. Ricky costs the Dolphins practically nothing to have in uniform this year. He is getting tested 3 times a week and has been clean for over a year. With the former O-Line coach of the Chargers in Miami, I would think that Ricky would fit the mold of an LT more than Brown. Not quite the pass catcher that LT is but more in terms of running style. The league is moving to a 1-2 punch at RB more and more these days. The Colts won the SB with that method. Since Brown hasn't been able to stay healty and was most productive in a 2 back system at Auburn one would think having Ricky there would be a no brainer.
You can face the fact that you overpaid for Brown and accept that he's not the wonderful talent you expected him to be or you can keep throwing lame insults and bulk smiley's at me.
I think Bill and I were talking about some scenario's about him but nothing was actually offered.
And you can try to make comparisons to Benson, but Benson has not been given the ball for a year on his own like Brown did last year.
But good luck with Brown. I'm sure he'll lead you to yet another losing season. How many is that in a row now? Got to be close to 6 right?
