Anybody else benching Megatron this week? (1 Viewer)

[mikel0254]

bust of the year, next to spiller

HAHA! He's hurt! He missed week 5 and was a decoy in week 6. If you want to call an injured player a bust, go for it...but most people on this board will agree an injury doesn't make a player a bust.

In his first 4 games he had 312 yards and 4 TDs. That's an average of 78 yards and a TD each week (13.8pts/week non-ppr). That's good for #6WR in my league. Sure, not #1 where he was drafted, but how can you call that the "bust of the year"?

so you wouldn't consider roddy white a bust this year

My definition of bust is someone who plays, but plays vastly below where his expectations were. Calvin has had one bad game after an injury and you're calling him the bust of the year after the 3 games before his injury putting up WR1 numbers.

Roddy came into the season injured, so my expectations were low as it was.

 

[Judge Smails]

Meh. Calvin had 2 pretty bad and uncharacteristic drops. One would have been a TD the other about a 15 yd gain. He was used enough to out up nice stays. He just laid an egg.

Actually, they aren't that uncharacteristic. It is so maddening how many close calls he has in the end zone. If he had the hands that Keyshawn and Cris show off the jugs machine at close range he'd have boatloads more touchdowns and catches on short, hard passes. Longer passes he's fine, but he just seems to not pick the ball up quickly and quick hitters. Just my 2 cents after owning him 2 the past 2 years and Stafford this year.

 

[Khy]

bust of the year, next to spiller

HAHA! He's hurt! He missed week 5 and was a decoy in week 6. If you want to call an injured player a bust, go for it...but most people on this board will agree an injury doesn't make a player a bust.

In his first 4 games he had 312 yards and 4 TDs. That's an average of 78 yards and a TD each week (13.8pts/week non-ppr). That's good for #6WR in my league. Sure, not #1 where he was drafted, but how can you call that the "bust of the year"?

so you wouldn't consider roddy white a bust this year

My definition of bust is someone who plays, but plays vastly below where his expectations were. Calvin has had one bad game after an injury and you're calling him the bust of the year after the 3 games before his injury putting up WR1 numbers.

Roddy came into the season injured, so my expectations were low as it was.

I disagree with this to an extent. Would you say that Charles was a bust in 2011? What about Murray and McFadden in 2012? To me a bust by definition is someone who greatly underscored their perceived value. The reason behind that is irrelevant, whether from injury, bad play, bad coaching, bad team. It's irrelevant. A bust is drafting Calvin Johnson as the #1 WR off the board in the first round and having him finish outside the Top 10 for WRs. Whether he's hurt or just under performing is irrelevant. A bust is drafting CJ Spiller as a Top 5 pick and having him be out performed by Jason Snelling, Andre Ellington and Bilal Powell. A bust is drafting Tom Brady as a Top 5 QB and having him be not Top 5, not Top 10, not even Top 15 but roughly QB20 overall through 6 games. The reasons for how they got to that point don't matter. Either way, they're simply a bust.

 

[mikel0254]

bust of the year, next to spiller

HAHA! He's hurt! He missed week 5 and was a decoy in week 6. If you want to call an injured player a bust, go for it...but most people on this board will agree an injury doesn't make a player a bust.

In his first 4 games he had 312 yards and 4 TDs. That's an average of 78 yards and a TD each week (13.8pts/week non-ppr). That's good for #6WR in my league. Sure, not #1 where he was drafted, but how can you call that the "bust of the year"?

so you wouldn't consider roddy white a bust this year

My definition of bust is someone who plays, but plays vastly below where his expectations were. Calvin has had one bad game after an injury and you're calling him the bust of the year after the 3 games before his injury putting up WR1 numbers.

Roddy came into the season injured, so my expectations were low as it was.

I disagree with this to an extent. Would you say that Charles was a bust in 2011? What about Murray and McFadden in 2012? To me a bust by definition is someone who greatly underscored their perceived value. The reason behind that is irrelevant, whether from injury, bad play, bad coaching, bad team. It's irrelevant. A bust is drafting Calvin Johnson as the #1 WR off the board in the first round and having him finish outside the Top 10 for WRs. Whether he's hurt or just under performing is irrelevant. A bust is drafting CJ Spiller as a Top 5 pick and having him be out performed by Jason Snelling, Andre Ellington and Bilal Powell. A bust is drafting Tom Brady as a Top 5 QB and having him be not Top 5, not Top 10, not even Top 15 but roughly QB20 overall through 6 games. The reasons for how they got to that point don't matter. Either way, they're simply a bust.

Simple answer is no, I would not call Charles, Murray, or McFadden busts in those years (or Brady in 2008). I don't consider someone a bust if they get hurt and miss games. I consider that bad luck. I only consider them busts if they underperform in the games they play. And the point of this is, I don't consider Calvin the "bust of the year" because he's had ONE bad game after in injury. Maybe it's not everyone's definition of bust, but it's mine, and there are plenty of people who agree (in my real life, not my FF forum life).



Spiller is a bust this year. 100% agreed. He wasn't doing anything before he got hurt.

 

[Brakiss]

bust of the year, next to spiller

HAHA! He's hurt! He missed week 5 and was a decoy in week 6. If you want to call an injured player a bust, go for it...but most people on this board will agree an injury doesn't make a player a bust.

In his first 4 games he had 312 yards and 4 TDs. That's an average of 78 yards and a TD each week (13.8pts/week non-ppr). That's good for #6WR in my league. Sure, not #1 where he was drafted, but how can you call that the "bust of the year"?

so you wouldn't consider roddy white a bust this year

My definition of bust is someone who plays, but plays vastly below where his expectations were. Calvin has had one bad game after an injury and you're calling him the bust of the year after the 3 games before his injury putting up WR1 numbers.

Roddy came into the season injured, so my expectations were low as it was.

I disagree with this to an extent. Would you say that Charles was a bust in 2011? What about Murray and McFadden in 2012? To me a bust by definition is someone who greatly underscored their perceived value. The reason behind that is irrelevant, whether from injury, bad play, bad coaching, bad team. It's irrelevant. A bust is drafting Calvin Johnson as the #1 WR off the board in the first round and having him finish outside the Top 10 for WRs. Whether he's hurt or just under performing is irrelevant. A bust is drafting CJ Spiller as a Top 5 pick and having him be out performed by Jason Snelling, Andre Ellington and Bilal Powell. A bust is drafting Tom Brady as a Top 5 QB and having him be not Top 5, not Top 10, not even Top 15 but roughly QB20 overall through 6 games. The reasons for how they got to that point don't matter. Either way, they're simply a bust.

Simple answer is no, I would not call Charles, Murray, or McFadden busts in those years (or Brady in 2008). I don't consider someone a bust if they get hurt and miss games. I consider that bad luck. I only consider them busts if they underperform in the games they play. And the point of this is, I don't consider Calvin the "bust of the year" because he's had ONE bad game after in injury. Maybe it's not everyone's definition of bust, but it's mine, and there are plenty of people who agree (in my real life, not my FF forum life).

Spiller is a bust this year. 100% agreed. He wasn't doing anything before he got hurt.

I agree completely

 

[greggorymac]

bust of the year, next to spiller

HAHA! He's hurt! He missed week 5 and was a decoy in week 6. If you want to call an injured player a bust, go for it...but most people on this board will agree an injury doesn't make a player a bust.

In his first 4 games he had 312 yards and 4 TDs. That's an average of 78 yards and a TD each week (13.8pts/week non-ppr). That's good for #6WR in my league. Sure, not #1 where he was drafted, but how can you call that the "bust of the year"?

so you wouldn't consider roddy white a bust this year

My definition of bust is someone who plays, but plays vastly below where his expectations were. Calvin has had one bad game after an injury and you're calling him the bust of the year after the 3 games before his injury putting up WR1 numbers.

Roddy came into the season injured, so my expectations were low as it was.

I disagree with this to an extent. Would you say that Charles was a bust in 2011? What about Murray and McFadden in 2012? To me a bust by definition is someone who greatly underscored their perceived value. The reason behind that is irrelevant, whether from injury, bad play, bad coaching, bad team. It's irrelevant. A bust is drafting Calvin Johnson as the #1 WR off the board in the first round and having him finish outside the Top 10 for WRs. Whether he's hurt or just under performing is irrelevant. A bust is drafting CJ Spiller as a Top 5 pick and having him be out performed by Jason Snelling, Andre Ellington and Bilal Powell. A bust is drafting Tom Brady as a Top 5 QB and having him be not Top 5, not Top 10, not even Top 15 but roughly QB20 overall through 6 games. The reasons for how they got to that point don't matter. Either way, they're simply a bust.

Simple answer is no, I would not call Charles, Murray, or McFadden busts in those years (or Brady in 2008). I don't consider someone a bust if they get hurt and miss games. I consider that bad luck. I only consider them busts if they underperform in the games they play. And the point of this is, I don't consider Calvin the "bust of the year" because he's had ONE bad game after in injury. Maybe it's not everyone's definition of bust, but it's mine, and there are plenty of people who agree (in my real life, not my FF forum life).

Spiller is a bust this year. 100% agreed. He wasn't doing anything before he got hurt.

David Wilson is a bust. Players who get injured are not busts.

 

[joffer]

Who gives a frogs fat ### what we call it?

 

[Khy]

bust of the year, next to spiller

HAHA! He's hurt! He missed week 5 and was a decoy in week 6. If you want to call an injured player a bust, go for it...but most people on this board will agree an injury doesn't make a player a bust.

In his first 4 games he had 312 yards and 4 TDs. That's an average of 78 yards and a TD each week (13.8pts/week non-ppr). That's good for #6WR in my league. Sure, not #1 where he was drafted, but how can you call that the "bust of the year"?

so you wouldn't consider roddy white a bust this year

My definition of bust is someone who plays, but plays vastly below where his expectations were. Calvin has had one bad game after an injury and you're calling him the bust of the year after the 3 games before his injury putting up WR1 numbers.

Roddy came into the season injured, so my expectations were low as it was.

I disagree with this to an extent. Would you say that Charles was a bust in 2011? What about Murray and McFadden in 2012? To me a bust by definition is someone who greatly underscored their perceived value. The reason behind that is irrelevant, whether from injury, bad play, bad coaching, bad team. It's irrelevant. A bust is drafting Calvin Johnson as the #1 WR off the board in the first round and having him finish outside the Top 10 for WRs. Whether he's hurt or just under performing is irrelevant. A bust is drafting CJ Spiller as a Top 5 pick and having him be out performed by Jason Snelling, Andre Ellington and Bilal Powell. A bust is drafting Tom Brady as a Top 5 QB and having him be not Top 5, not Top 10, not even Top 15 but roughly QB20 overall through 6 games. The reasons for how they got to that point don't matter. Either way, they're simply a bust.

Simple answer is no, I would not call Charles, Murray, or McFadden busts in those years (or Brady in 2008). I don't consider someone a bust if they get hurt and miss games. I consider that bad luck. I only consider them busts if they underperform in the games they play. And the point of this is, I don't consider Calvin the "bust of the year" because he's had ONE bad game after in injury. Maybe it's not everyone's definition of bust, but it's mine, and there are plenty of people who agree (in my real life, not my FF forum life).

Spiller is a bust this year. 100% agreed. He wasn't doing anything before he got hurt.

David Wilson is a bust. Players who get injured are not busts.

David Wilson isn't injured? Man... news to me.

That aside, it's irrelevant what we call it. In my opinion scoring dramatically below your draft slow is what defines a bust, regardless of reasoning. The simple fact is that Calvin isn't performing like the WR1 he was drafted at and that is a bust. Regardless of the fact that he may have a nagging injury.

 

[Grahamburn]

bust of the year, next to spiller

HAHA! He's hurt! He missed week 5 and was a decoy in week 6. If you want to call an injured player a bust, go for it...but most people on this board will agree an injury doesn't make a player a bust.

In his first 4 games he had 312 yards and 4 TDs. That's an average of 78 yards and a TD each week (13.8pts/week non-ppr). That's good for #6WR in my league. Sure, not #1 where he was drafted, but how can you call that the "bust of the year"?

so you wouldn't consider roddy white a bust this year

My definition of bust is someone who plays, but plays vastly below where his expectations were. Calvin has had one bad game after an injury and you're calling him the bust of the year after the 3 games before his injury putting up WR1 numbers.

Roddy came into the season injured, so my expectations were low as it was.

I disagree with this to an extent. Would you say that Charles was a bust in 2011? What about Murray and McFadden in 2012? To me a bust by definition is someone who greatly underscored their perceived value. The reason behind that is irrelevant, whether from injury, bad play, bad coaching, bad team. It's irrelevant. A bust is drafting Calvin Johnson as the #1 WR off the board in the first round and having him finish outside the Top 10 for WRs. Whether he's hurt or just under performing is irrelevant. A bust is drafting CJ Spiller as a Top 5 pick and having him be out performed by Jason Snelling, Andre Ellington and Bilal Powell. A bust is drafting Tom Brady as a Top 5 QB and having him be not Top 5, not Top 10, not even Top 15 but roughly QB20 overall through 6 games. The reasons for how they got to that point don't matter. Either way, they're simply a bust.

Simple answer is no, I would not call Charles, Murray, or McFadden busts in those years (or Brady in 2008). I don't consider someone a bust if they get hurt and miss games. I consider that bad luck. I only consider them busts if they underperform in the games they play. And the point of this is, I don't consider Calvin the "bust of the year" because he's had ONE bad game after in injury. Maybe it's not everyone's definition of bust, but it's mine, and there are plenty of people who agree (in my real life, not my FF forum life).

Spiller is a bust this year. 100% agreed. He wasn't doing anything before he got hurt.

David Wilson is a bust. Players who get injured are not busts.

David Wilson isn't injured? Man... news to me.

That aside, it's irrelevant what we call it. In my opinion scoring dramatically below your draft slow is what defines a bust, regardless of reasoning. The simple fact is that Calvin isn't performing like the WR1 he was drafted at and that is a bust. Regardless of the fact that he may have a nagging injury.

David Wilson is like catnip for you.

 

[Dizzy]

Who gives a frogs fat ### what we call it?

Agreed. A bust is a bust is a bust.

You expect a certain amount of return on your investment, and when results fall well short of expectations... IT'S A BUST!

 

[hotlanta]

Who gives a frogs fat ### what we call it?

Agreed. A bust is a bust is a bust.

You expect a certain amount of return on your investment, and when results fall well short of expectations... IT'S A BUST!

Exactly. He's thrown up 2 stinkers and missed another game out of the 6 games the Lions have played. For someone who came at a price of a 1st or 2nd rounder, this is just plain disappointing. I don't care if he's double teamed or triple teamed, or is facing Joe Haden or Jesus great receivers find a way to get theirs.

I took Calvin and Dez (who also has put up 3 out of 6 stinkers) at the 1st/2nd round turn and I'm just sick. I remember coming out of the draft stoked at getting those 2.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Lions coach Jim Schwartz says it's "too soon" to know if Calvin Johnson (knee) escaped Sunday's game without further injury.
"He was sore after the game, but he’s been sore after practice," Schwartz said. "It’s too soon to really know if it was any worse." It's an eye-brow raising admission, though it's hard to take anything Schwartz says on injuries seriously. He's a notorious fact fudger. We're unlikely to get a good idea of Megatron's Week 7 status before Friday, but he'll most likely play.

Source: Dave Birkett on Twitter

Calvin Johnson (knee) is practicing Wednesday.
Johnson rarely practices on Wednesdays when he's relatively healthy, so his participation here can be taken as a hugely positive sign. It confirms that he escaped his limited Week 6 performance without further knee damage and emerged feeling healthy. Johnson should be ready to go for Sunday's game against the Bengals and it looks like he'll be more than a decoy this time.

Source: Dave Birkett on Twitter