lets swapI'm hoping to move out of the pacific northwest and go back to socal or further south to baja as soon as roverkid finishes high school. can't take the 9 months of grey and rain and washington drivers are the absolute worst.
You should visit during the summer while I have boats in the water. October - May are all pretty much the same.lets swap
SO much better here since you left. We do miss Mrs Foos though.It sucks. Mid/Northern Michigan is great though. The only thing I miss about SE Michigan is family and a decent coney.
This, except not NoVaNorthern Virginia area has a lot to offer but it is just a place to make some money before retiring somewhere else. It won't be hard to move when the time is right.
Though I always thought CA would be the somewhere else, and now that's a virtual impossibility.This, except not NoVa
Sure. You won't be too liberal for the conservatives out here.The target is probably somewhere in Arizona. We're not east coasters at all. Florida is too humid. Texas is too Texas.
Compound?Northern Virginia area has a lot to offer but it is just a place to make some money before retiring somewhere else. It won't be hard to move when the time is right.
That's about right. I do love the easy access to history/museums. But looking forward to when I can retire some place with a cheaper cost of living.Northern Virginia area has a lot to offer but it is just a place to make some money before retiring somewhere else. It won't be hard to move when the time is right.
I'm prepared to always be a man without a country.Sure. You won't be too liberal for the conservatives out here.
I think there is a "love the one you're with" phenomenon. Even if objectively crappy, every place has some redeeming features - affordability is a big giveaway that a place isn't too desirable.Bit of an offshoot on this thread, where I found myself boasting like a peacock about my current state, Oregon. Funny thing is, 20 year old me would have boasted just as much about my home state of Texas.
Very much enjoyed the back and forth in that thread and cool to see people that are proud of where they live (or, in some cases, cool to see guys discuss where they'd prefer to live vs where they live now).
But I'm curious, how many of you DO NOT like your current home state/city? What do you not like about it and where would you prefer to live? Do you plan on changing this in the future or are you resigned to the fact that you might be stuck where you live (perhaps it's family or a job that is keeping your rooted in place).
To be clear, your description is pretty much exactly how I feel 90% of the time here.I'm prepared to always be a man without a country.
But at least I'll be warm.
This, if I had unlimited time and money and few hometown commitments. As the Beatles once said, just follow the sun.I'm prepared to always be a man without a country.
But at least I'll be warm.
You need a vacation, Roc.I live in Riverside County, CA. It's all cement and parking lots. The weather is often stifling. There's nothing but schoolkids and storefronts and fat women. There's tons of meth instead of cocaine and bad tattoos as far as the eye can see. Did I mention that every male here keeps his nuts in his woman's purse but has sex with the neighbor's wife? On meth, no less?
God has sent me here to get sober or see my future hell.
That is all.
Wherever I go, that's where I am. There has been a tension.You need a vacation, Roc.
But at least you guys got weed.I love Vancouver and wouldn't want to live anywhere else in Canada as I don't want to deal with snow anymore.
The 3 issues here are : cost , traffic and 3-4 months of grey and rain .
that's true , there has been great weed here for decades and has been tolerated for many years before it became legalBut at least you guys got weed.
I have lived in Florida, Texas, and CA, I am sure there are better places but I still like Michigan the best.I don’t think I’ll ever leave Michigan, but I wouldn’t mind a bigger house in a nicer neighborhood
y'knowAnybody not...like...where they currently live.
Other thread makes me read it like that, like.
ragin does thatLouisiana has some great culture. It’s just to damn hot.
Swenson's burgersI can't think of much Cleveland does not have that I would get elsewhere. Mountains are really it. Probably why my ideal 2nd home sometime decades from now is out west. Just about anything else you would want outdoors is within an hour of wherever you decide to live. Cost of living is dirt cheap. Food's great, wide variety too. If anything the craft beer industry has flooded. Professional sports are a way of life. Like many MW cities, people are great. Downtown is night and day what it was 10-20 years ago. Traffic is mostly avoidable and what of it there is pales in comparison to most cities. What else do people hate about where they live?
Only real con is obvious - winter. And I'd rather deal with January and February here when I don't have much free time anyway then get more out of May-August when I have more free time. Like most MW cities, Fall is outstanding here and unlike most MW cities it isn't often that Summer gets unbearable.
pool parties ...6 weeks of the year.Minnesota. Twin Cities. Love the state, the people are generally great too. My neighborhood is awesome. Pool parties, BBQs, schools are great, tons of parks, lakes, bike paths. Great golf courses. Lots of friends and family here too.
Phenomenal job market, lots of different places to live (city, burbs, farmland 25 miles from downtown)
May-Oct is awesome.
Winters are BRUTAL. But if they weren’t the area would be twice as big and would loose a lot of what I love about it.
If it weren’t for family I’d be happy living in any mid-sized metro in the Midwest/Southeast.
This is a truism, for sure. But you know what? #### 'em. I've just come to accept, it is what it is. My girlfriend is from the bay area, and reminds me she misses it on a regular basis (friends, family, metropolitan culture, etc). I've let her know there's no way I'm ever moving down there.I love the SF Bay Area and in terms of geography and weather I feel its the best in the nation, but the realization that my wife and I will likely never be able to own a home here is having us looking at moving. We absolutely love Portland and if my current job ever had an opening there we would probably move in a heartbeat. Rain doesn't bother us at all and we're used to homeless people, being from SF. But there's also the fact that a lot of people in Portland hate California transplants.
grew up in Ohio and lived several places there ...mostly around Dayton. Beautiful rolling hills farmland. Winters are great compared to northern OH - but still way too cold for me. I eventually got south and don't ever want to leave. Little Rock has a nice change of seasons and relatively short winters. A little too many tornadoes, but what are ya gonna do.Saw an article recently with statistics showing some huge percentage of Americans never live anywhere outside their hometown. I wanna say it was 40% or something. Which explains a lot, but that's another topic.
Now FBG's are generally more upwardly mobile than an average sampling of the population I'd guess.
But the reality is that even if some people feel this way, many will never do anything about it. Many of them probably feel like they can't, or actually can't. But still. Kinda sad.
You really should check out somewhere further west. All the states in the Rockies and West Coast are light years nicer than the Midwest/Plains/South.grew up in Ohio and lived several place there ...mostly around Dayton. Beautiful rolling hills farmland. Winters are great compared to northern OH - but still way too cold for me. I eventually got south and don't ever want to leave. Little Rock has a nice change of seasons and relatively short winters. A little too many tornadoes, but what are ya gonna do.
Real pool weather? Usually mid-April through late September/early October. Humidity ...sure, but so is Ohio.
I went from NW Minnesota / Grand Forks ND / Fargo ND to Phoenix in 2001. It's quite the climate change. I like it here and yet I wouldn't mind leaving at some point. Believe it or not there is such a thing as too much sun, even if it is a dry heat. Not sure where I would go though. Im curious about the Pacific NW but I've never really been there.That is going to be a big climate jump from Minnesota! The idea of never shoveling snow again doesn't sound bad at all.
Serious question - given how much different your personal all views are from the culture of your area have you ever considered moving?lolz
Really depends on where you are. Arlington/Alexandria are worlds different that anything outside the beltway. You couldn't pay me to enough to live in the DC suburbs.Northern Virginia area has a lot to offer but it is just a place to make some money before retiring somewhere else. It won't be hard to move when the time is right.
wait til the Santa Anas come. that (and RC's biker legacy) is what's behind the meth use. prepare to know whether or not you're the strangling type by end of fall.I live in Riverside County, CA. It's all cement and parking lots. The weather is often stifling. There's nothing but schoolkids and storefronts and fat women. There's tons of meth instead of cocaine and bad tattoos as far as the eye can see. Did I mention that every male here keeps his nuts in his woman's purse but has sex with the neighbor's wife? On meth, no less?
God has sent me here to get sober or see my future hell.
That is all.
Winter/Summer extremes here are better than Detroit/Toledo. Thank you, Lake Erie. Helps minimize the number of sweltering hot days and while we get a lot more snow that's optimal with the right infrastructure to the wind and ice that frequent the other side of the lake.I feel like you can cut and paste this for most Rust Belt cities and have a similar writeup. Detroit, Cleveland, and Buffalo have always felt like brother/sister cities of varying sizes. Can probably throw in Rochester, NY and some other Rust Belt OH/MI cities that I've never been to (Akron? Toledo? etc) as well.
I'm a few years from 50 still. I'm not sure if the fact that I never embraced winter will help me continue to deal with it as I get older or not. This will be the first winter I have a decent snow blower, so we'll see if that helps.The thing I've realized about the harsh winters in the upper Midwest is that they get harder to deal with the older you get. I know that's a cliche, but I never put much thought into it until the past couple years, after I hit 50. In my 20's/30's and deep into the 40's, I still loved winters and aggressively pursued outdoor activities all winter long. I don't complain about it and am not considering moving, still love the dramatic change of seasons that doesn't exist in more moderate climates, but the harsh cold and hard work dealing with it is more of a burden than being something I look forward to as I once did.
Small towns just outside of larger cities are all over the eastern Rockies.I have lived all over the country and would love to move to a small town in the Rockies, however my wife wants a larger city.
40% Never outside their hometown area? WOW! Almost like early western lifestyle...Saw an article recently with statistics showing some huge percentage of Americans never live anywhere outside their hometown. I wanna say it was 40% or something. Which explains a lot, but that's another topic.
Now FBG's are generally more upwardly mobile than an average sampling of the population I'd guess.
But the reality is that even if some people feel this way, many will never do anything about it. Many of them probably feel like they can't, or actually can't. But still. Kinda sad.
I like Atlanta and probably won't ever move but the traffic can be soul-sucking during commutes. If I could telecommute more then I'd be perfectly happy. I still find the positives outweigh the negatives - I like having changing seasons weather-wise, love the access to lakes and mountains, close to beaches, airport where I can get anywhere, pro/college teams, lots of job opportunities, good colleges, culturally diverse city.Pretty burned out on Atlanta. Too much traffic, too many people. Once my kid is off to college in a year or so, we'll be hitting the road to travel, and then buy a place on the beach.
Small towns just outside of larger cities are all over the eastern Rockies.