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AP is playing! What a warrior! (1 Viewer)
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Jello_Biafra
Footballguy
I have no respect for the guy playing right after his kid dies. I don't consider him a warrior at all.
Me either ... Not only that but it sounds like (and I could be completely wrong) he left the kid in critical condition and came back to practice and the kid died.
Jello_Biafra
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
From one article it sounded like the poor infant was being kept alive by a machine with no chance of recovery, just a matter of when to let him go.
If thats the case I can see coming back to his team and playing in what is a tough situation that would enrage any father. I dont think warrior is the right word but I sure wouldnt want to be tackling him this weekend.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
rockaction
Footballguy
I didn't much care for T Bell's response over in the FFA, but this whole story sounds awfully weird. I guess reactions to tragedy are just personal -- that grief is personal -- and I'll have to remind my own damn self to leave it at that.
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mbrasi
Footballguy
How can we judge this man.
How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
flapgreen
Footballguy
It is odd.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Agreed.How can we judge this man.
How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
What is he supposed to do, stay and mourn with his ex that dated this scumbag?
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Even if you've been through the horror of losing a child, I don't think you can pass judgement on anyone in how they specifically react. If it was me, I'd be bedside until he passed then lock myself away from the world for a month. He chose to go where he feels most comfortable and where he knows the support will be. Probably not a lot of opportunities to sit with the mother that was at least complicit to this hapenning and console each other I'd bet. Lots of hyperbole and judgement here. Let the guy do what he thinks will help. Geez.
ETA remember when Favre's father died and he threw for 5tds? Remember when torry smith's brother was killed and he caught 200 yards? These guys lives revolve around football and I'd expect record breaking rushing totals this week.
ETA remember when Favre's father died and he threw for 5tds? Remember when torry smith's brother was killed and he caught 200 yards? These guys lives revolve around football and I'd expect record breaking rushing totals this week.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Really? Did you feel the same way about Torrey Smith playing when his brother died? How about Favre?
mbrasi
Footballguy
Yeah right,Agreed.How can we judge this man.
How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
What is he supposed to do, stay and mourn with his ex that dated this scumbag?
I wouldn't be happy that my ex exposed my child to this POS.
wormburner
Footballguy
No, you wouldn't. AP will likely use the Carolina game to release his energy and emotions over this sad event. And dominate. Much like Favre did on MNF in '03 when his dad passed.
Jello_Biafra
Footballguy
I am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?How can we judge this man.
How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
They had both already passed and they weren't abused 2 year old children that could have used there father at their sides in their final moments.
From the sound of it ... It may have been the first and only time they'd ever be together but AP had to go ... it wasn't worth missing a game.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
I really don't see the point of these kinds of threads. The man has a responsibility to his family he went and supported them, he has a responsibility to his team also so he will do his job. It doesn't mean he didn't care for his child. Some of you people really need to get over yourselves.
mbrasi
Footballguy
I'm sorry for your loss.I am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?How can we judge this man.
How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
With that being said, Are you kidding?!? I wasn't judging how you feel, but you of all people, should understand that you can't pass judgment on how someone reacts in that situation.
You can't understand his personal relationship with his ex and should understand that he may immediately blame that woman for what happened. His team may be the best support that he might have right now.
Playing and focusing on football this Sunday may be the only thing keeping him from wanting to kill his ex or the boyfriend.
How can we understand his thoughts and his situation, and how can we judge his actions....
Dork Matter
Footballguy
In my 42 years on this earth, I have found few certain truths, but I can share this one with you: never, ever pass judgment on how another person grieves. You do not know their mind. Remember to be kind, because there is precious little else you can do for them.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I'm sorry for you loss. But shouldn't you know better than anyone, then, that all people deal with grief and loss differently?I am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?How can we judge this man.How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
Simayi
Footballguy
1) Sorry for your lossI am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?How can we judge this man.
How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
2) I don't understand how you can say "Who are YOU to judge the way I feel" while simultaneously judging Adrian Peterson.
Sol D
Footballguy
I was very surprised to hear he was playing. Losing a sibling or parent I can see playing, I could play. But losing my child no way. If you have a real bond with your child there is no way I can see how any parent could focus on anything but that loss days after the event. I'm thinking for reasons unknown he really wasn't close to the child.
If he has a bad game he was distracted by his loss.
If he has a great game he took his loss out on the opponent.
What if he has an average game?
Regardless football really doesn't matter. If guilty I hope this animal who murdered an innocent helpless 2 year old gets life in prison, and gets a huge Adrian Peterson fan for a cellmate. So tragic and really makes me appreciate how lucky I am to have a healthy child.
If he has a bad game he was distracted by his loss.
If he has a great game he took his loss out on the opponent.
What if he has an average game?
Regardless football really doesn't matter. If guilty I hope this animal who murdered an innocent helpless 2 year old gets life in prison, and gets a huge Adrian Peterson fan for a cellmate. So tragic and really makes me appreciate how lucky I am to have a healthy child.
When the other inmates know what he did, it won't matter if they are fans of Adrian Peterson or not.
Man of Zen
Footballguy
Because there are a number of perfectly rational and human ways to act. Those ways do NOT include...Simayi said:1) Sorry for your lossJello_Biafra said:I am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?mbrasi said:How can we judge this man.Jello_Biafra said:
How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
2) I don't understand how you can say "Who are YOU to judge the way I feel" while simultaneously judging Adrian Peterson.
...holding a little impromptu presser where you simultaneously tell the reporters you're dealing with a private matter and grinning ear-to-ear.
...deserting your child who is clinging to life so you can jet back off to your little ball game practice.
...having your first reaction to the death of your child being to tweet to your legions of fans that everything is hunky dory in AP land, and that by golly, you'll be out there playing on Sunday!
...making the whole ### #### thing about you, Adrian Peterson.
I guess realizing these things comes from the same impulse that would keep most of us from banging, impregnating, then completely deserting a woman and her/your child in the first place.
Jello_Biafra
Footballguy
I was answering the question "how do you know what he's going through". I think I answered it as best as I could. Based on my experience, I have a hard time respecting someone for going to work days after losing their child. I guess you don't feel the same.Simayi said:1) Sorry for your lossJello_Biafra said:I am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?mbrasi said:How can we judge this man.Jello_Biafra said:
How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
2) I don't understand how you can say "Who are YOU to judge the way I feel" while simultaneously judging Adrian Peterson.
SportsGuru311
Footballguy
Very sorry to hear about his loss today. AP is an amazing player with a great heart
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Why does this shock people? Didn't he just find out recently about the kid? I never took it as he was really attached to the kid or his mother.
IMHO, AP is getting a bit too many condolences that should be meant for the child's mother.
T J
Footballguy
Look, I hate to say this but it seems clear AP was not close to this child and as such did not have the emotional attachment some of you seem to wish he had. Like it or not, the fact it was his legal offspring doesn't mean there was connection so the emotional loss just probably wasn't nearly as great as you'd see with a more traditional father-child relationship.
Mr. Fusion
Footballguy
The greatest loss is one's own and everyone deals with grief in their own way. I would not work on Sunday if my son died today but being in front of his fans and with his teammates may be the best thing for him.
I don't think any more or less of him for playing. My thoughts are with him and his family.
I don't think any more or less of him for playing. My thoughts are with him and his family.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
You brought a child into the world, and had every opportunity to be there as he left it..
And he didnt.
Sorry, you can say "everyone grieves differently" til you're blue in the face - but it takes a ####ty person to go play football instead of being a father for the last minutes.
because, guess what? that's what he was... the kid's father.
And he didnt.
Sorry, you can say "everyone grieves differently" til you're blue in the face - but it takes a ####ty person to go play football instead of being a father for the last minutes.
because, guess what? that's what he was... the kid's father.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
It appears he has had little to no contact with this child before, and his paternity was in doubt until very recently.
Wonder what he will do if he scores a td....look to the sky...I'm not judging and not sure how I feel about this yet...I think football takes a back seat no matter what the circumstances of the child....being in his shoes would be tough but I do know what I would do....I wouldn't be in 'Minnesota no matter what the relationship with the child or the mother....
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Wow. 40.5 years on this earth, but I sure hope I gain even an ounce of your wisdom over the next one and a half. Best post I've ever read on any subject...ever.Dork Matter said:
Heatman
Footballguy
In APs defense. He's been through more in one lifetime than most would go through in five lifetimes. But yet he keeps his head high and keeps moving forward. People deal with loss differently and if he uses sports to grieve so be it. You can't expect everyone to grieve the way you do and you can not judge someone for not doing so.I was answering the question "how do you know what he's going through". I think I answered it as best as I could. Based on my experience, I have a hard time respecting someone for going to work days after losing their child. I guess you don't feel the same.Simayi said:1) Sorry for your lossJello_Biafra said:I am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?mbrasi said:How can we judge this man.Jello_Biafra said:
How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
2) I don't understand how you can say "Who are YOU to judge the way I feel" while simultaneously judging Adrian Peterson.
I feel for you losing a child. I lost my brother when he was 25 and that was unbelievably difficult.
If everyone here would take a second to consider their actions if this was to happen to them, their first kneejerk reaction would be to seek retribution against the scum bag that did this to his child. Since he is locked up and out of reach for A.P. then his next course of action will be to take out his anger on the Panthers D this sunday, I see Adrian running with a lot of violence this week!
I just hope no-one gets hurt!
I just hope no-one gets hurt!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Only thing I can add is that I feel most looking at ADP mainly care for selfish reasons and I'm not gonna go much further with it. Whatever ADP decides will offend someone. He will play because its a business, its not a weekly church social.
Everyone take a deep breath. A young boy was taken from this World long before he should have. A 2 year old boy, that's tragic enough without the judgement and emotions of a bunch of football geeks that all thought the same thing. Is ADP playing? That was the first thing we all asked ourselves, well question answered.
Everyone take a deep breath. A young boy was taken from this World long before he should have. A 2 year old boy, that's tragic enough without the judgement and emotions of a bunch of football geeks that all thought the same thing. Is ADP playing? That was the first thing we all asked ourselves, well question answered.
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