Every branch on this family tree looks like a complete Gump/Gomer, of one sort or another.
Guarantee? I'd be shocked if he's in the 2026 draft and would feel that way if NIL money did not exist.
I 100% agree. He is 19 and comes from a plethora of family NFL experience. I imagine his focus is on developing into the best quarterback he can be and money is most certainly secondary in his situation. He will be advised wisely, and I doubt that advice is to rush into the NFL.Guarantee? I'd be shocked if he's in the 2026 draft and would feel that way if NIL money did not exist.
Only way he's in next year's draft is if he has an all time college QB season in 2025.Guarantee? I'd be shocked if he's in the 2026 draft and would feel that way if NIL money did not exist.
Matt Miller
It feels like a good time to remind people that Arch Manning has three years of eligibility remaining—and that both Peyton and Eli used all their college eligibility.
I won’t be doing any draft work on Arch for 2026. He’s probably a 2027 player. He could be a 2028 player.
Imagine the Saints with the top pick next year ... I expect that this process is already underway. And if they miss their mark, they get a second swing in 2027.Only way he's in next year's draft is if he has an all time college QB season in 2025.Guarantee? I'd be shocked if he's in the 2026 draft and would feel that way if NIL money did not exist.
That seems very, very unlikely.
The tank for Arch will be on, although still uncertain which year he declares. NFL needs a draft lottery imo. Something where #1 can fall a max of 3 slots but not guaranteed #1.
Why?The tank for Arch will be on, although still uncertain which year he declares. NFL needs a draft lottery imo. Something where #1 can fall a max of 3 slots but not guaranteed #1.
That's a horrible idea.
it wouldn't fix anything. instead of tanking for worst record teams tank to get in the 3 worst records for a shot at #1 pick.Why?The tank for Arch will be on, although still uncertain which year he declares. NFL needs a draft lottery imo. Something where #1 can fall a max of 3 slots but not guaranteed #1.
That's a horrible idea.
Maybe, if it was 4 or 5 teams that had a shot and the #1 team had say a 25% chance not sure would be worth tanking for that.it wouldn't fix anything. instead of tanking for worst record teams tank to get in the 3 worst records for a shot at #1 pick.Why?The tank for Arch will be on, although still uncertain which year he declares. NFL needs a draft lottery imo. Something where #1 can fall a max of 3 slots but not guaranteed #1.
That's a horrible idea.
They just need to kill the draft entirely. If they're really concerned about parity, keep the salary cap, that's enough.
Why?The tank for Arch will be on, although still uncertain which year he declares. NFL needs a draft lottery imo. Something where #1 can fall a max of 3 slots but not guaranteed #1.
That's a horrible idea.
The NFL has quite literally turned the draft into a three day carnival. Changing format won't change that in the least.Why?The tank for Arch will be on, although still uncertain which year he declares. NFL needs a draft lottery imo. Something where #1 can fall a max of 3 slots but not guaranteed #1.
That's a horrible idea.
It doesn't make any sense, that's why. Maybe I'm in the minority but I don't see the appeal of the NBA lottery. It's just another way to try to make a production out of every little thing.
The worst team should get the first pick. Pretty simple. Everyone wants to make a carnival out of everything.
Except a pick lottery wouldn't be part of the draft carnival. It would be a new separate event for the carnies with small hands and smell of cabbage to exploit.The NFL has quite literally turned the draft into a three day carnival. Changing format won't change that in the least.Why?The tank for Arch will be on, although still uncertain which year he declares. NFL needs a draft lottery imo. Something where #1 can fall a max of 3 slots but not guaranteed #1.
That's a horrible idea.
It doesn't make any sense, that's why. Maybe I'm in the minority but I don't see the appeal of the NBA lottery. It's just another way to try to make a production out of every little thing.
The worst team should get the first pick. Pretty simple. Everyone wants to make a carnival out of everything.
#KILLTHEDRAFT!!!
Take FF thinking out of it.The tank for Arch will be on
I don't buy it. The biggest problem is you need the Head Coach to be involved in the decision to tank and coaches in that position typically don't have the job security needed. In the example you cited (BTW, you meant Luck not Peyton), Caldwell was fired at the end of the year. Also, the Colts won 2 of their last 3 games and almost lost the first pick. A funny way to tank.It's not the players, it's the organization that tanks. Colts tanked for Peyton by playing Curtis Painter all year. And maybe it doesn't happen a lot but in certain situations teams can bench a QB at the end of the year and things like that.
Yes, meant Luck. Gonna give up trying to convince anyone, I'll bow out, hijacking the thread anyway.I don't buy it. The biggest problem is you need the Head Coach to be involved in the decision to tank and coaches in that position typically don't have the job security needed. In the example you cited (BTW, you meant Luck not Peyton), Caldwell was fired at the end of the year. Also, the Colts won 2 of their last 3 games and almost lost the first pick. A funny way to tank.It's not the players, it's the organization that tanks. Colts tanked for Peyton by playing Curtis Painter all year. And maybe it doesn't happen a lot but in certain situations teams can bench a QB at the end of the year and things like that.
An Organization is a group of individuals and ultimately it's the players and coaches who win/lose games. I just don't see it happening.
It'd never happen, but I think it'd be really cool if the draft worked the exact opposite way. As in, the Super Bowl winner picked #1, and the team with the worst record picked last. It'd fully eliminate any reason to not play to win every week and make the draft more interesting. Like, after winning the 2020 Super Bowl, would Tampa Bay have taken Trevor Lawrence to develop behind Brady, or would they have added Chase or Sewell? I don't think it would unbalance the league either due to the salary cap, and lead to some interesting personnel choices.They just need to kill the draft entirely. If they're really concerned about parity, keep the salary cap, that's enough.
Underdog NFL
Archie Manning on if he believes grandson Arch Manning will declare for 2026 NFL Draft, via @TexasMonthly:
“Arch isn’t going to do that. He’ll be at Texas.”
His value is definitely inflated right now. He's a top 3 Devy prospect who hasn't seen full playing time. I think the problem is who do you feel better about? I'd flip him + for J. Smith. All the rest of the QBs have the same question marks, but I think Manning is safer due to name recognition. Even if his next two years at Texas are average, NFL teams are going to look at him longer and harder. He's likely to get a couple chances in the NFL even if he doesn't turn out to be a homerun.In dynasty / devy circles, it feels like the Arch hype is at a high point. As much fun as it may be to have him on my devy squad, I' wondering if now is the time to trade him. He's probably not coming out next year and grandpa Archie says he may play two full years so the wait would be a while. I won the league last year and probably the favorite to win this year so don't really need to move him right now though. What do people think his value will look like over the next year or so? What would you do with him? TIA!
Ray G
Y’all gotta chill with the Arch Manning overreactions.
Year-1 starter playing on the road against the defending national champs. Let the young man figure it out.
Expect some growing pains and struggles he ain’t his uncles yet.
Benjamin Allbright
People are really gonna have whole conversations on-air this week pretending they can judge a kid’s entire career off one start on the road against a top 5 defense.
He didn't beat out Quinn Ewers who wasn't good.This guy is legit. Anyone who says otherwise just just hating the name and the pub he gets after having not done much. What he does in the pros is anyone's guess, but he's going to be a top 5 pick.
EDIT - He can have a bad game and have the above be true. I can acknowledge he made some dumb decisions and bad passes today. He also made some throws that were.