Are we already in WWIII? (1 Viewer)

[shader]

we live in the most peaceful time in human history. so no.

This is where we miss larry boy

we live in the most peaceful time in human history. so no.

But luckily...

It's ludicrous to even try and make that statement. But enjoy your bubble of perfect peace.

http://www.salon.com/2014/01/15/were_living_through_the_most_peaceful_era_in_human_history_%e2%80%94%c2%a0with_one_big_exception_partner/

Yeah it's really peaceful. Unless you live where it isn't.How many people has the US killed in wars in the last decade?

How many wars and conflicts are going on right now?

Look, you can make the argument that violent crime is way down, or even that less people are dying in wars. BUT, to say it's the most peaceful time in human history is silly stuff designed to get web clicks.

Describe a more peaceful time

I have no idea what some of you mean by "time"? What time period are we calling the "most peaceful in history"? 2014? The 21st century? I think it's silly to insinuate that we are currently living in a peaceful era, but maybe we need to establish what time period it is we are talking about.

So you can't.

Give me a time period to work with here.

 

[shader]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_Wars

There are 13 conflicts causing at least 1,000 deaths per year.

28 conflicts that cause at least 100 deaths a year.

Lots of war happening everywhere. War has changed a lot so to fight you don't have to send thousands of people out into the middle of fields to slaughter each other.

Again, The current situation obviously is more peaceful than, say, WW2. It's better than at many points in history. But the most peaceful "time" in history? Shocking statement

Some interesting data here:http://www.ourworldindata.org/data/war-peace/war-and-peace-after-1945/

Interesting data. It is true deaths are down. Also I think the nuclear bomb pretty much scared off all the big countries from fighting with each other.

But I'll stand by my original point. It's one thing to say "things seem to be getting more peaceful". It's another to say that this is the most peaceful time in human history, especially when the US has been at war for a long time. If the US is in a state of war, than the US is not at peace.

True the war isn't close to the death rates of ww2, Vietnam or ww1. But the US has done its fair share of killing in the last decade.

Yeah it's pretty peaceful for us spoiled American citizens in suburbia right now.

But try living in Syria, Palestine, Ukraine, Nigeria, etc, etc.

 

[Christo]

Describe a more peaceful time

I have no idea what some of you mean by "time"? What time period are we calling the "most peaceful in history"? 2014? The 21st century? I think it's silly to insinuate that we are currently living in a peaceful era, but maybe we need to establish what time period it is we are talking about.

So you can't.

Give me a time period to work with here.

 

[shader]

Describe a more peaceful time

I have no idea what some of you mean by "time"? What time period are we calling the "most peaceful in history"? 2014? The 21st century? I think it's silly to insinuate that we are currently living in a peaceful era, but maybe we need to establish what time period it is we are talking about.

So you can't.

Give me a time period to work with here.

You can't do it can you?

 

[shader]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/20/global-refugee-figure-passes-50-million-unhcr-report

I'm sure these 50 million refugees with disagree with the "most peaceful time in world history" statement.

 

[snitwitch]

Just a couple of centuries ago, violence was pervasive. Slavery was widespread, wife and child beating were acceptable practices, heretics and witches were burned at the stake, pogroms and race riots were common, and warfare was nearly constant. Public hangings, bearbaiting, and even cat burning were popular forms of entertainment. By examining collections of ancient skeletons and scrutinizing contemporary tribal societies, anthropologists have found that people were nine times as likely to die violent deaths in the prehistoric period than in modern times, even allowing for the world wars and genocides of the 20th century. Europes murder rate was 30 times higher in the Middle Ages than it is today.

http://reason.com/archives/2012/01/11/the-decline-of-violence

 

[Limp Ditka]

Describe a more peaceful time

I have no idea what some of you mean by "time"? What time period are we calling the "most peaceful in history"? 2014? The 21st century? I think it's silly to insinuate that we are currently living in a peaceful era, but maybe we need to establish what time period it is we are talking about.

So you can't.

Give me a time period to work with here.

You can't do it can you?

He's giving you all documented history to work with and you want him to narrow it down for you?

 

[shader]

Describe a more peaceful time

I have no idea what some of you mean by "time"? What time period are we calling the "most peaceful in history"? 2014? The 21st century? I think it's silly to insinuate that we are currently living in a peaceful era, but maybe we need to establish what time period it is we are talking about.

So you can't.

Give me a time period to work with here.

You can't do it can you?

He's giving you all documented history to work with and you want him to narrow it down for you?

Obviously you aren't following the conversation. I asked for clarification on what time period is the most peaceful in history.

Is it the last year? Last five years? Last decade? Last century? I can't pick out a time period of I don't know the length of time that I'm looking for.

The original statement was so ambiguous that we could argue for months about it. Define peace. Define the "time period". Define "we".

Perhaps I was too focused on war while others mean peace in the sense of your personal safety in your day to day life. But since the original post was about war, that's kind of what I assumed we were discussing.

 

[Limp Ditka]

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Just a couple of centuries ago, violence was pervasive. Slavery was widespread, wife and child beating were acceptable practices, heretics and witches were burned at the stake, pogroms and race riots were common, and warfare was nearly constant. Public hangings, bearbaiting, and even cat burning were popular forms of entertainment. By examining collections of ancient skeletons and scrutinizing contemporary tribal societies, anthropologists have found that people were nine times as likely to die violent deaths in the prehistoric period than in modern times, even allowing for the world wars and genocides of the 20th century. Europes murder rate was 30 times higher in the Middle Ages than it is today.

http://reason.com/archives/2012/01/11/the-decline-of-violence

 

[roadkill1292]

Shader, stay down gb.

 

[Ilov80s]

A million people died in 1 battle during WW1. All violence is sad, but the fact that the post Cold War World seems to be moving away from large pitched land battles alone makes the world a significantly safer place.

 

[joffer]

larry boy would have been more entertaining

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

I must admit I haven't seen a good cat burning in a long time. We are making progress people.

 

[Christo]

A million people died in 1 battle during WW1. All violence is sad, but the fact that the post Cold War World seems to be moving away from large pitched land battles alone makes the world a significantly safer place.

That's a bit of an exaggeration but the numbers are still staggering. The best estimate for Verdun is ~700k casualties including ~300k deaths.

 

[Ilov80s]

A million people died in 1 battle during WW1. All violence is sad, but the fact that the post Cold War World seems to be moving away from large pitched land battles alone makes the world a significantly safer place.

That's a bit of an exaggeration but the numbers are still staggering. The best estimate for Verdun is ~700k casualties including ~300k deaths.

Yes, should have said killed or wounded, was thinking about Somme.

 

[snitwitch]

http://ourworldindata.org/VisualHistoryOf/Violence.html#/title-slide

 

[TheAristocrat]

I am not prepared for WWIII. Could someone give me a list of things I need or need to do to become adequately prepared for this?

 

[FUBAR]

I am not prepared for WWIII. Could someone give me a list of things I need or need to do to become adequately prepared for this?

just read this http://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Survival-Guide-Complete-Protection/dp/1400049628/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1422546147&sr=1-1&keywords=zombie+survival+kit

 

[Eminence]

If it comes down to it, I would love to see Russia crush the United States.

 

[McGarnicle]

I can't imagine a WWIII is all that far off given the history of mankind. What the cause will be I have no idea. Technology will be our demise. It's inevitable IMO. Not a matter of if but when.

Techmology. What is that all about? Is it good? Or is it whack?

 

[jamny]

If it comes down to it, I would love to see Russia crush the United States.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

If it comes down to it, I would love to see Russia crush the United States.

He's comically bad at life.

 

[McGarnicle]

Hmm, the Russians hate blacks and gays...makes sense.

 

[jamny]

Jordan's King Abdullah "this is a third World War by other means"

ABDULLAH: This has to be unified. I mean, I've said this to leaders both in the Islamic and Arab world and to the world in general, this is a third World War by other means, this brings Muslims, Christians, other religions together in this generational fight that all of us have to be in this together. So it's not a Western fight. This is a fight inside of Islam where everybody comes together against these outlaws, so to speak, together. And there's a short term part of this, which is the military part of the issue, there is the medium part, which is the security element of it, and then there's a long term element of this, which is obviously the ideological one.