Arian Foster Hamstring (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/texans-rb-arian-foster-receiver-andre-johnson-miss-practice-with-injuries/2011/08/06/gIQANILgyI_story.html

Foster was the NFL’s leading rusher last season (1,616 yards). He downplayed the severity of his injury, and happily mingled with fans after Saturday’s workout, which was open to the public.

“I think any time you have a hamstring injury, you have to rest it,” Foster said. “That’s the only thing that can heal it. So that’s what we’re doing right now.”

Foster, an undrafted free agent in 2009, pulled a hamstring just before the Senior Bowl, and tweaked it in his rookie season with Houston. He’s not nearly as concerned this time.

“Knee injuries are frightening,” Foster said. “Hamstrings are part of the business.”

How worried are you?J

 

[The Hank]

As a Foster owner, obviously there is part of me that is worried, given the nature of hamstring injuries. But there are still 5 weeks until the beginning of the season. Still plenty of time to get healthy.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I own Foster and I would classify my level of worry as less than 1. This is based on the reports and it doesn't sound like anything major. There is plenty of time for him to get healthy.

 

[GregR]

Hamstring injuries are pretty common this time of year. Go to the blogger and search for 'hamstring' and you'll find a dozen players who have already had the same thing this season, and most of them say they may miss a few days, but don't seem to expect more.

Now if it is torn it will be a completely different story. The same blogger search will find plenty of people who tore them and were lost for the season last year.

Haven't seen anything to suggest that is the case with Foster though. They would know by now I imagine. As long as they take it slow with him I'm not overly concerned. Voted a 3.

 

[moderated]

9.5

He was always banged up in college. While he may not have had major injuries they prevented him from playing full games which makes it even worse.

Play him and he can only handle 8-10 carries banged up, not injured enough to sit but not healthy enough to handle a lot of work. That is my worst fear, that he reverts back to his college oft injured status.

No way I take him over guys like ad, Charles, rice, cj now that he's gimping it up again. Also playing on a torn meniscus all last season wore down his cartilage and he's likely a future microfacture patient on the worn down knee.

 

[Joe Bryant]

9.5He was always banged up in college. While he may not have had major injuries they prevented him from playing full games which makes it even worse.Play him and he can only handle 8-10 carries banged up, not injured enough to sit but not healthy enough to handle a lot of work. That is my worst fear, that he reverts back to his college oft injured status.No way I take him over guys like ad, Charles, rice, cj now that he's gimping it up again. Also playing on a torn meniscus all last season wore down his cartilage and he's likely a future microfacture patient on the worn down knee.

Hi Moderated,Can you give some more specific detail about his college durability?J

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

Hamstrings in pre seasonson don't bother me unless there is a chance the player can lose his starting job. So, in this case, I'm not worried.

 

[AmosMoses]

17

 

[Joe Bryant]

College stats. http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/arian-foster-1.html

Led team in carries 3 of 4 years.

J

 

[Couch Potato]

1 - No worry at all

it's aug 6th people.

if anything, it just guarantees he won't tear an ACL the next few days.

 

[No Way Jose]

9.5He was always banged up in college. While he may not have had major injuries they prevented him from playing full games which makes it even worse.Play him and he can only handle 8-10 carries banged up, not injured enough to sit but not healthy enough to handle a lot of work. That is my worst fear, that he reverts back to his college oft injured status.No way I take him over guys like ad, Charles, rice, cj now that he's gimping it up again. Also playing on a torn meniscus all last season wore down his cartilage and he's likely a future microfacture patient on the worn down knee.

Hi Moderated,Can you give some more specific detail about his college durability?J

I will answer this for him. No he can't.

 

[pghrob]

Hamstring injuries are pretty common this time of year. Go to the blogger and search for 'hamstring' and you'll find a dozen players who have already had the same thing this season, and most of them say they may miss a few days, but don't seem to expect more.Now if it is torn it will be a completely different story. The same blogger search will find plenty of people who tore them and were lost for the season last year.Haven't seen anything to suggest that is the case with Foster though. They would know by now I imagine. As long as they take it slow with him I'm not overly concerned. Voted a 3.

Good post relating to seeing these this time of year. I am not worried. Maybe 4 or so years ago I drafted Carolina Steve Smith and he injured his hammy in preseason. It lingered all preseason causing me to trade him. Miraculously it healed and IIRC he had a pretty good year.

 

[Tchula]

I'm personally having Daunte Stallworth flashbacks.

 

[CalBear]

I think the concern is that Foster had a magical season last year, and for him to duplicate it would require everything to fall into place properly. One of the pieces of magic was that he remained basically healthy while shouldering a heavy workload (13 games with 20+ touches, 4 with 30+).

On the other hand, grabbing your hamstring is a great way to get out of practice without having to undergo surgery, so it's pretty common for guys to sandbag this time of year.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I think the concern is that Foster had a magical season last year, and for him to duplicate it would require everything to fall into place properly. One of the pieces of magic was that he remained basically healthy while shouldering a heavy workload (13 games with 20+ touches, 4 with 30+).

On the other hand, grabbing your hamstring is a great way to get out of practice without having to undergo surgery, so it's pretty common for guys to sandbag this time of year.

This I think is a fair point.The loss of Vonta Leach has lots of folks smugly talking of their understanding of the game and how that'll be the end of Foster. Pretty Interesting article on why that might not the case Interesting stuff.

J

 

[hostile]

I think the concern is that Foster had a magical season last year, and for him to duplicate it would require everything to fall into place properly. One of the pieces of magic was that he remained basically healthy while shouldering a heavy workload (13 games with 20+ touches, 4 with 30+).

On the other hand, grabbing your hamstring is a great way to get out of practice without having to undergo surgery, so it's pretty common for guys to sandbag this time of year.

Unless you meaning decimating the league while running on a torn meniscus, then yes, he was "basically healthy".

Lucky to own him in one of my dynasties and I have no worries at all. I doubt he matches or eclipses last year's numbers, but I still think he's a top 5 RB.

 

[gethugefast1]

I think the concern is that Foster had a magical season last year, and for him to duplicate it would require everything to fall into place properly. One of the pieces of magic was that he remained basically healthy while shouldering a heavy workload (13 games with 20+ touches, 4 with 30+).

On the other hand, grabbing your hamstring is a great way to get out of practice without having to undergo surgery, so it's pretty common for guys to sandbag this time of year.

"of year"... especially last year of contract.

 

[GregR]

I found his scouting report from before the NFL draft, which had this:

Durability 4 He underwent knee surgery in January, 2008 and was limited during spring ball. He also sprained his left ankle versus Air Force in 2006 and did not return for the next two games (Marshall and Memphis).

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

went with 4. hammys linger and can be a sign of bad conditioning. Especially this year I'm a lil more worried. In a normal year (with normal offseason training camp etc) it'd be a 2.

 

[Mark Wimer]

went with 4. hammys linger and can be a sign of bad conditioning. Especially this year I'm a lil more worried. In a normal year (with normal offseason training camp etc) it'd be a 2.

the level of conditioning, league-wide, is going to be lower than in a "normal" year due to the lack of staff-supervised OTAs and mini-camps. The trainers haven't been able to work directly with the athletes for most of the spring/summer. And working out in an air-conditioned gym just isn't the same as strenuous practices in the outdoors, in the summer heat. In this anomalous year, hamstring injuries are more troubling than most preseasons, I agree. The recovery time frame may be longer, and THIS preseason the reps (or in the case of injured players, the missed reps) are more meaningful than in most years.

voted a 6, personally

 

[We Tigers]

I think you're going to find that people who don't own him are more likely to say "9 or 10, he's done." It's another small element to make a case against him being a good pick. Not a bad thing; that's just how people work.

 

[Largent]

I think the concern is that Foster had a magical season last year, and for him to duplicate it would require everything to fall into place properly. One of the pieces of magic was that he remained basically healthy while shouldering a heavy workload (13 games with 20+ touches, 4 with 30+).

On the other hand, grabbing your hamstring is a great way to get out of practice without having to undergo surgery, so it's pretty common for guys to sandbag this time of year.

This I think is a fair point.The loss of Vonta Leach has lots of folks smugly talking of their understanding of the game and how that'll be the end of Foster. Pretty Interesting article on why that might not the case Interesting stuff.

J

thanks for that -

 

[Lash]

9.5He was always banged up in college. While he may not have had major injuries they prevented him from playing full games which makes it even worse.Play him and he can only handle 8-10 carries banged up, not injured enough to sit but not healthy enough to handle a lot of work. That is my worst fear, that he reverts back to his college oft injured status.No way I take him over guys like ad, Charles, rice, cj now that he's gimping it up again. Also playing on a torn meniscus all last season wore down his cartilage and he's likely a future microfacture patient on the worn down knee.

Hi Moderated,Can you give some more specific detail about his college durability?J

Vol fan here and i remember a few minor injuries but he ended up 2nd leading rusher in school history with nearly 3000 yards (behind Travis Henry, ahead of Jamal Lewis, James Stewart, Charlie Garner, etc) so nothing major ... he could just have a low pain tolerance or just lazy and want out of practices who knows..... but i will have to agree with moderated that he always "seemed" to have something wrong that the commentators would always be pointing out ... you see alot of proven veterans "pull their hammy" early in preseason every year and they are just fine come season so that is what I am going with here ... so i am voting a 3 because i think he is just getting out of practicep.s. this is slightly off topic but ....his main problem in college was game-outcome-altering fumblesif you are a Steeler fan, remember back when Bettis fumbled against Indy the feeling you had for the next couple minutes before Vangerchoke missed the FG :X ... Foster had THREE OF THOSE with one being a bowl game easy win against Penn State just walk through the gaping hole opened by the line and fall in the end zone for a two-score lead very late in the gamehopefully he has corrected those

 

[GregR]

Ben Tate missed practice with a tight hamstring today as well.

 

[-jb-]

Wasn't planning on drafting given the price, so not worried at all. This might bring his value down to a more reasonable level, but I doubt it.

 

[Shutout]

I'm personally having Daunte Stallworth flashbacks.

Take a deep breath and have an Issac Bruce flashback. He was absolutely tortured by hamstrings early in his career and recovered quite nicely.Point being, its only as bad as you lead yourself to worry and in this case, its not even warranted. Foster does not have a history of hammy issues and, actually, very contrary to what a lot of people routinely post (lazily), he does NOT have a history of injuries. He HAS been injured...but what RB not named Curtis Martin hasn't? He has played with injuries (always a good sign of a RB who can). He HAS even had a bad injury...IN THE PAST...just like other guys like Jamal Lewis (who came back to have one of the best seasons ever). But he's certainly not Fred Taylor or charles Rogers.Basically, its early in camp and every year, early in camp, lots of players have ankle and hammy and sore this and that. It just happens to make "big news" because it was the dominant RB of the league last year that SOME people are STILL chomping at the bit to try to tear down because they still can't believe how wrong they were last year. So they keep predicting until the man becomes so old that they finally are right in predicitng a demise...Those folks should worry more about Ryan Matthews than Arian Foster. If it were any of 100 other guys, it would be what it SHOULD be: a report that means nothing in about 3-5 days.

 

[joffer]

could be a "its too damn hot" hamstring injury

 

[mr roboto]

Ben Tate missed practice with a tight hamstring today as well.

Yea, but this thread is about all the reasons Foster is gonna be a bust this year...Tate's gonna replace Foster! It's just a hammy after all.Houston has never had back-to-back great RB seasons!And Leach is gone!And he wasn't a first rounder!(am I missing any of them)?

 

[Dancing Bear]

Gave this a "1" ...

There are no instantiating reports of him "pulling" his hamstring, although there are for him having a "tight" hamstring. These are completely different!

Tight hamstring ...

 

[rizzler]

Despite Ben Tate's big game in the second week of preseason, coach Gary Kubiak confirmed Tuesday that Arian Foster remains the Texans' every-down running back.

"One thing about the running back position, when you have a great one, they need it 25 times," said Kubiak. "For the most part, when Arian’s at his best, he’s playing three snaps to the other guys' one."

 

[Thomsen]

Despite Ben Tate's big game in the second week of preseason, coach Gary Kubiak confirmed Tuesday that Arian Foster remains the Texans' every-down running back."One thing about the running back position, when you have a great one, they need it 25 times," said Kubiak. "For the most part, when Arian’s at his best, he’s playing three snaps to the other guys' one."

Lovin' it!

 

[HittinHard]

Not worried bout Foster at all ,he will continue wher he left off last season.

 

[Insein]

I kept him for a 4th round pick. Only put a 2 down as my worry which is like a normal worry on any player I own.

 

[Fiddles]

Love kubiaks quote. Wish more coaches adopted that philosophy.

 

[two_dollars]

7

because hamstring injuries nag. They don't necessarily keep him out of games, but could hinder performance. Combined with the loss of Leach and the Houston RB curse, I think people will be lucky if he finishes top 15.

 

[rizzler]

7because hamstring injuries nag. They don't necessarily keep him out of games, but could hinder performance. Combined with the loss of Leach and the Houston RB curse, I think people will be lucky if he finishes top 15.

Lay off the sauce, my friend.

 

[We Tigers]

Not the Houston RB curse! There be ghosts in them hills!

 

[two_dollars]

 

[two_dollars]

7because hamstring injuries nag. They don't necessarily keep him out of games, but could hinder performance. Combined with the loss of Leach and the Houston RB curse, I think people will be lucky if he finishes top 15.

Lay off the sauce, my friend.

I drank too much sauce I guess?

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Despite Ben Tate's big game in the second week of preseason, coach Gary Kubiak confirmed Tuesday that Arian Foster remains the Texans' every-down running back."One thing about the running back position, when you have a great one, they need it 25 times," said Kubiak. "For the most part, when Arian’s at his best, he’s playing three snaps to the other guys' one."

Coach speak. You are alittle concerned,correct?

 

[Maroney=Speed]

I will also add this. If you need Foster to come back to help you win your League, you might as well start pre-pairing for next year. It's not going to happen.

 

[cvnpoka]

ok, first step in "pre-pairing" for next year is ranking rbs. do you think foster will be healed and in shape by then? or do you think this devastating injury make him a worse player for the rest of his, likely short, career?

 

[Maroney=Speed]

ok, first step in "pre-pairing" for next year is ranking rbs. do you think foster will be healed and in shape by then? or do you think this devastating injury make him a worse player for the rest of his, likely short, career?

Great question. Alot has to do with Ben Tate. If Tate plays well Foster will not be in Houston next season. My question to you is. Does that hurt Foster or help him or it depends on what team he goes too?

 

[texansfan80]

ok, first step in "pre-pairing" for next year is ranking rbs. do you think foster will be healed and in shape by then? or do you think this devastating injury make him a worse player for the rest of his, likely short, career?

Great question. Alot has to do with Ben Tate. If Tate plays well Foster will not be in Houston next season. My question to you is. Does that hurt Foster or help him or it depends on what team he goes too?

Are you guys serious? Wow, talk about making something 400 times bigger than it really is. What motivation does Houston have to hurry Foster back to the offense right now? Tate is playing well and we're 2-0. Think long haul. Come mid-season Houston could have 2 healthy RB's primed for a playoff run. Arian will be back, maybe in RBBC but Arian will be in Houston for awhile....way too talented not to be. Ben Tate playing well for 2 games does not overshadow what Arian did for the entire year last year. I'm not a Foster owner btw, you guys just blow things out of proportion. They want Arian 100% healthy

 

[Maroney=Speed]

ok, first step in "pre-pairing" for next year is ranking rbs. do you think foster will be healed and in shape by then? or do you think this devastating injury make him a worse player for the rest of his, likely short, career?

Great question. Alot has to do with Ben Tate. If Tate plays well Foster will not be in Houston next season. My question to you is. Does that hurt Foster or help him or it depends on what team he goes too?

Are you guys serious? Wow, talk about making something 400 times bigger than it really is. What motivation does Houston have to hurry Foster back to the offense right now? Tate is playing well and we're 2-0. Think long haul. Come mid-season Houston could have 2 healthy RB's primed for a playoff run. Arian will be back, maybe in RBBC but Arian will be in Houston for awhile....way too talented not to be. Ben Tate playing well for 2 games does not overshadow what Arian did for the entire year last year. I'm not a Foster owner btw, you guys just blow things out of proportion. They want Arian 100% healthy

Interesting. If you don't think the NFL isn't all about money. Than you most have just come back from Mars. The NFL so you knew almost did not have a season in 2011. Just to be clear, if Tate continues to play well Foster will not be back in Houston next year.

 

[GregR]

ok, first step in "pre-pairing" for next year is ranking rbs. do you think foster will be healed and in shape by then? or do you think this devastating injury make him a worse player for the rest of his, likely short, career?

Great question. Alot has to do with Ben Tate. If Tate plays well Foster will not be in Houston next season. My question to you is. Does that hurt Foster or help him or it depends on what team he goes too?

Foster will have 3 years accrued so will be a restricted free agent. Houston can put the highest tender on him and still have him ridiculously cheap for a RB of his caliber.The only way he isn't in Houston short of having his leg amputated is if someone is willing to give Foster more money than the Texans will and also surrender their 1st and 3rd round picks to Houston.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Tate runs hard but he doesn't produce the number of big plays Foster does. Nothing in the passing game for Tate either. Foster a is a fantastic buy low IMO if you can get him from his owner.

 

[shadyridr]

tate is definitrly a solid rb but he is not on fosters level

 

[damageinc]

Tate is a very good RB but I agree with the above. Foster was explosive and a threat in the passing game . But if FOster is out for a while Tate will be a good RB 2 for fantasy.

 

[Shutout]

tate is definitrly a solid rb but he is not on fosters level

I think today was exactly what foster owners have been waiting to see; how Tate faired in a game that was not lopsided and against a serviceable defense. I think it was obvious that Foster brings a great deal more to the Texans dynamically. There were a number of runs where you just know from watching Foster in the past that the plays would have went for a few more yards (Tate seems more hit and grind where Foster seems more like pick a hole and glide through it). There were also a couple of plays where Shaub and tate did not connect as easily as he seems to with Foster.Now, the Texans can fall to 2-2 next week if they lose, fall out of first in their division, and pretty much lose all the early season momentum they had going. I would be willing to bet that you're going to see Foster as the starting RB this week coming.