Arian Foster (1 Viewer)

[No Way Jose]

I could easily see this being a Tate/Slaton committee with Foster being odd man out and replaced easily.

My thinking as well

Foster not getting drafted had more to do with him being on a terrible Tennessee team with a coach on the way out. He was thought to be an easy second round pick his jr year and he decided to stay for his sr year in hopes of becoming UT's all time leading rusher....hindsight he shoulda left early. I imagine that the Texans might have seen a big drop off after Tate on their board and didn't want to get left with their pants down. I think all three running backs have their own skillset and it will be impossible to figure out who the best one to own will be untill the season starts to play out. I however didn't see anything out of Foster last year that made me think he couldn't handle the job.

I thought he also had fumble issues at UT

Yes he did, at really inopportune times as well.

 

[Steed]

I could easily see this being a Tate/Slaton committee with Foster being odd man out and replaced easily.

My thinking as well

Foster not getting drafted had more to do with him being on a terrible Tennessee team with a coach on the way out. He was thought to be an easy second round pick his jr year and he decided to stay for his sr year in hopes of becoming UT's all time leading rusher....hindsight he shoulda left early. I imagine that the Texans might have seen a big drop off after Tate on their board and didn't want to get left with their pants down. I think all three running backs have their own skillset and it will be impossible to figure out who the best one to own will be untill the season starts to play out. I however didn't see anything out of Foster last year that made me think he couldn't handle the job.

I thought he also had fumble issues at UT

Yes he did, at really inopportune times as well.

You mean like week 15 in the middle of your playoffs? LOL

 

[Heep]

I like the upside of Foster. He is a lot cheaper than Tate and Slaton and has just as good of a shot at winning the starting job. I'm not sure what their combine numbers looked like next to one another, but they are both around 215 - 218 pounds and both played in the SEC posting similar stats...Tate - 678 carries, 3321 rushing yards (4.8 YPC), 24 rush TDs, 53 receptions, 336 receiving yards, 0 rec. TDsFoster - 650 carries, 2964 rushing yards (4.5 YPC), 23 rush TDs, 83 receptions, 742 receiving yards, 2 rec. tdsAlso Foster has been praised by the HC this offseason...

"Coach Gary Kubiak has been impressed by Arian Foster in OTAs this week.Analysis: "(He) went from first year to second year a big jump, just (from) watching him practice," said Kubiak. Foster is taking advantage of rookie Ben Tate's (hamstring) absence. He showed enough late last season to believe he has at least a puncher's chance of starting in Week 1."

Tate is going to cost you a 1st round rookie pick. Foster costs you next to nothing and if he doesn't pan out, who cares. The upside is there though and that's what I like...Edit: Also we have seen a little bit of Foster on an NFL field. 54 carries, 257 yards, 3 tds, 8 catches, 93 yards and 1 Fumble lost. Tate is still unknown in that department.

 

[Gopher State]

I could easily see this being a Tate/Slaton committee with Foster being odd man out and replaced easily.

I don't know if their is enough room on the roster for Foster. Buyer beware

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I like the upside of Foster. He is a lot cheaper than Tate and Slaton and has just as good of a shot at winning the starting job. I'm not sure what their combine numbers looked like next to one another, but they are both around 215 - 218 pounds and both played in the SEC posting similar stats...

Tate - 678 carries, 3321 rushing yards (4.8 YPC), 24 rush TDs, 53 receptions, 336 receiving yards, 0 rec. TDs

Foster - 650 carries, 2964 rushing yards (4.5 YPC), 23 rush TDs, 83 receptions, 742 receiving yards, 2 rec. tds

Also Foster has been praised by the HC this offseason...

"Coach Gary Kubiak has been impressed by Arian Foster in OTAs this week.

Analysis: "(He) went from first year to second year a big jump, just (from) watching him practice," said Kubiak. Foster is taking advantage of rookie Ben Tate's (hamstring) absence. He showed enough late last season to believe he has at least a puncher's chance of starting in Week 1."

Tate is going to cost you a 1st round rookie pick. Foster costs you next to nothing and if he doesn't pan out, who cares. The upside is there though and that's what I like...Edit: Also we have seen a little bit of Foster on an NFL field. 54 carries, 257 yards, 3 tds, 8 catches, 93 yards and 1 Fumble lost. Tate is still unknown in that department.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

If you learn more about the Slaton injury you will understand that there is a decent chance he never plays much again. Also a chance he will come back but I think in a much less explosive form of himself. Foster seems like he caught balls in college, if he can do that in the pros he has a chance to be at least the COP back for Tate, maybe more of a share.

It's May, Foster is likely the RB3 right now on the depth charts, but those that got him last year late should hang on to him IMO or trade him to the new Tate owner for some insurance. I'm hanging on to him for now.

 

[Ariakis]

With Tate injured and Slaton still not playing I'd still hold onto Foster. This is going to be a strong offense and if one RB can get anything close to a majority of touches he'll be no worse than a RB2 with elite upside. I'd still not call Foster more than a flier but he looks better than he did the day Tate was drafted.

 

[cr8f]

If you learn more about the Slaton injury you will understand that there is a decent chance he never plays much again. Also a chance he will come back but I think in a much less explosive form of himself. Foster seems like he caught balls in college, if he can do that in the pros he has a chance to be at least the COP back for Tate, maybe more of a share. It's May, Foster is likely the RB3 right now on the depth charts, but those that got him last year late should hang on to him IMO or trade him to the new Tate owner for some insurance. I'm hanging on to him for now.

I agree.I traded him for Charles Woodson (keeping Foster on DTS)last season.

 

[loose circuits]

It's May, Foster is likely the RB3 right now on the depth charts, but those that got him last year late should hang on to him IMO or trade him to the new Tate owner for some insurance. I'm hanging on to him for now.

Actually Arian lined up with the 1's from what is being reported...

 

[massraider]

If you learn more about the Slaton injury you will understand that there is a decent chance he never plays much again.

Then I am pretty surprised he practiced at the OTA's.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

If you learn more about the Slaton injury you will understand that there is a decent chance he never plays much again.

Then I am pretty surprised he practiced at the OTA's.

I do not think Slaton is cleared to have contact as of yet.Link

Steve Slaton lost five of his seven fumbles last year, and the Texans running back was asked Tuesday if the neck injury that caused him to miss the last five games of the 2009 season was to blame.

Nodding, he replied, “If you can’t feel your hand in there, you can’t squeeze (the ball) as hard as you want to. I tried to downplay it, but it came to a point where I had to get surgery.”



The procedure was a cervical fusion, and Slaton, donning a red “no contact” jersey, said after a lengthy rehab session that all of the numbness is gone. He’ll have another checkup on June 25, and if all is satisfactory, Slaton should be cleared for training camp.

 

[two_dollars]

Chris Johnson has screws in his neck too, no one shows any concern over that at all..

 

[massraider]

If you learn more about the Slaton injury you will understand that there is a decent chance he never plays much again.

Then I am pretty surprised he practiced at the OTA's.

I do not think Slaton is cleared to have contact as of yet.Link

Steve Slaton lost five of his seven fumbles last year, and the Texans running back was asked Tuesday if the neck injury that caused him to miss the last five games of the 2009 season was to blame.

Nodding, he replied, “If you can’t feel your hand in there, you can’t squeeze (the ball) as hard as you want to. I tried to downplay it, but it came to a point where I had to get surgery.”



The procedure was a cervical fusion, and Slaton, donning a red “no contact” jersey, said after a lengthy rehab session that all of the numbness is gone. He’ll have another checkup on June 25, and if all is satisfactory, Slaton should be cleared for training camp.

I can live with not cleared for contact in May.

But talking about a guy never playing much again, and the guy is running around at OTA's, that doesn't jibe.

I truly have no idea what Slaton's prognosis is, but guys are held out of OTA's for hamstring tightness. Further, if they are expecting him to be cleared for TC, not even a PUP mention or anything, it sounds a bit like he's getting downgraded more than he should, health-wise.

 

[coolnerd]

If you learn more about the Slaton injury you will understand that there is a decent chance he never plays much again.

Then I am pretty surprised he practiced at the OTA's.

I do not think Slaton is cleared to have contact as of yet.Link

Steve Slaton lost five of his seven fumbles last year, and the Texans running back was asked Tuesday if the neck injury that caused him to miss the last five games of the 2009 season was to blame.

Nodding, he replied, “If you can’t feel your hand in there, you can’t squeeze (the ball) as hard as you want to. I tried to downplay it, but it came to a point where I had to get surgery.”



The procedure was a cervical fusion, and Slaton, donning a red “no contact” jersey, said after a lengthy rehab session that all of the numbness is gone. He’ll have another checkup on June 25, and if all is satisfactory, Slaton should be cleared for training camp.

I can live with not cleared for contact in May.

But talking about a guy never playing much again, and the guy is running around at OTA's, that doesn't jibe.

I truly have no idea what Slaton's prognosis is, but guys are held out of OTA's for hamstring tightness. Further, if they are expecting him to be cleared for TC, not even a PUP mention or anything, it sounds a bit like he's getting downgraded more than he should, health-wise.

I think the injury has been only a part of slaton's downgrade. Outside of youth and having had a good fantasy season, he pretty much as a laundry of things that will make people down grade aplayer. 1) Poor performance whhen given the chance to be the man

2) fumbling

3) Injury to a scary part of the body that by his admission was related to 2.

4) Team drafted a RB high

5) A young RB on his team already who flashed some skills

6) His best plays we made on draws and in the open field...i.e. he played like 3rd down change of pace guy.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Starting to move Foster up all of my draft boards. I realize that a high pick was made on Tate, and he is probably still the favorite. I also dont completely write off Slaton. But Foster seems like a low risk, high reward type of draft pick to me.

From Rotoworld today...

Running backs coach Chick Harris confirmed that Arian Foster will enter training camp atop the depth chart at tailback for the Texans.

"Arian gives us the size, and he made good decisions at the end of last year," said Harris. "We're in a good spot with Arian starting it off, but I also think Steve Slaton will contribute for us in a lot of ways." The coaches are rewarding Foster for an impressive finish to last season, and rookie Ben Tate still has ground to make up after dealing with a hamstring injury for the majority of OTAs. Nothing is written in stone in this backfield.

 

[Creed Bratton]

Starting to move Foster up all of my draft boards. I realize that a high pick was made on Tate, and he is probably still the favorite. I also dont completely write off Slaton. But Foster seems like a low risk, high reward type of draft pick to me.From Rotoworld today...Running backs coach Chick Harris confirmed that Arian Foster will enter training camp atop the depth chart at tailback for the Texans."Arian gives us the size, and he made good decisions at the end of last year," said Harris. "We're in a good spot with Arian starting it off, but I also think Steve Slaton will contribute for us in a lot of ways." The coaches are rewarding Foster for an impressive finish to last season, and rookie Ben Tate still has ground to make up after dealing with a hamstring injury for the majority of OTAs. Nothing is written in stone in this backfield.

I agree in moving Foster up draft boards. Tate and Slaton might still take the job, but it seems the job is Foster's for now. But if Foster gets injured, or plays poorly, then all bets are off.

 

[Futz]

Where might we expect Arian to fall in a 5 round (no IDP) dynasty rookie/FA draft? Our waiver wire ended before he got added last year.

I'm considering pick 2.03 if he's even still there.

 

[valhallan]

Where might we expect Arian to fall in a 5 round (no IDP) dynasty rookie/FA draft? Our waiver wire ended before he got added last year.I'm considering pick 2.03 if he's even still there.

This isn't a very deep class, so I would definitely take him that high. Even late first would be reasonable depending on your league setup.

 

[Concept Coop]

Where might we expect Arian to fall in a 5 round (no IDP) dynasty rookie/FA draft? Our waiver wire ended before he got added last year.I'm considering pick 2.03 if he's even still there.

How many teams? PPR?I think I would trade down, but at that point in the draft, I try to get my guy. I wouldn't blame you for taking him at 2.3. If he starts, it is a steal. If not, a bit of a reach as his handicap value does not match that of the Tobi's, Dweyrs, and maybe even Dixon's, based on who the starting RB's are.

 

[jsharlan]

its important to note that he's the supposed lead dog going into training camp only. A good portion of that has to do with the fact he was the only 100% healthy of the 3 backs during OTAs. I still personally see him going into week 1 as the 3rd guy, but Kubiak is gonna ride the hot hand so if he has a strong camp, who knows.

 

[Go deep]

This reminds me of the hype of Nick Goings.

 

[Andrew Garda]

its important to note that he's the supposed lead dog going into training camp only. A good portion of that has to do with the fact he was the only 100% healthy of the 3 backs during OTAs. I still personally see him going into week 1 as the 3rd guy, but Kubiak is gonna ride the hot hand so if he has a strong camp, who knows.

say it with me folks: It's only June....Still, he's healthy and will have gotten more reps. Tate is unproven (Is he an ok back in a good situation or an good back in a good situation?) and Slaton got banged up. So he'll get an early look...

Further thought: how big a RBBC is this going to be? How will the reps get split? I think they will and that could also limit Foster's effectiveness and fantasy impact.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

This reminds me of the hype of Nick Goings.

smells like Wali Lundy

 

[Futz]

Where might we expect Arian to fall in a 5 round (no IDP) dynasty rookie/FA draft? Our waiver wire ended before he got added last year.I'm considering pick 2.03 if he's even still there.

How many teams? PPR?I think I would trade down, but at that point in the draft, I try to get my guy. I wouldn't blame you for taking him at 2.3. If he starts, it is a steal. If not, a bit of a reach as his handicap value does not match that of the Tobi's, Dweyrs, and maybe even Dixon's, based on who the starting RB's are.

12 teams, no PPRI do have picks at 1.03 and 1.05 so a BenTate pick at 1.05 is a real possibility and then couple that with a Foster pick at 2.03 and I COULD corner that market. You never know with ratface 2.0

 

[Go deep]

This reminds me of the hype of Nick Goings.

smells like Wali Lundy

Lundy was hyped before he ever played a game. Goings situation is alot more like Fosters. A journeyman RB who had a couple good games at the end of the season. Despite the fact that it was clear he would never be a good RB, people still insisted he was a great value in dynasty leagues considering how cheap you could get him.

 

[Hoot&HoLLer]

This reminds me of the hype of Nick Goings.

smells like Wali Lundy

Lundy was hyped before he ever played a game. Goings situation is alot more like Fosters. A journeyman RB who had a couple good games at the end of the season. Despite the fact that it was clear he would never be a good RB, people still insisted he was a great value in dynasty leagues considering how cheap you could get him.

Not sure Foster fits the definition of Journeyman RB just yet at this early point in his career. He was a once promising pro prospect in college whose draft stock fell. Not a Journeyman though.

 

[Todem]

Slaton is still the real playmaker in the back field....and will play a major role for this offense. Where as last year he was a major bust this season he may be the best value based on ADP in PPR leagues.

Between Foster and Tate....coin toss at this point.

Yes I am a Slaton owner. And yes I still believe.

 

[thriftyrocker]

This reminds me of the hype of Nick Goings.

smells like Wali Lundy

Lundy was hyped before he ever played a game. Goings situation is alot more like Fosters. A journeyman RB who had a couple good games at the end of the season. Despite the fact that it was clear he would never be a good RB, people still insisted he was a great value in dynasty leagues considering how cheap you could get him.

Not sure Foster fits the definition of Journeyman RB just yet at this early point in his career. He was a once promising pro prospect in college whose draft stock fell. Not a Journeyman though.

Wali Lundy was hyped due to situation not talent. He was a 6th round pick who lucked into a shot at starting because Domanick Williams/Davis got hurt and there was no one else. Lundy failed miserably. Ron Dayne outperformed him, and Lundy never played again.Foster was not hyped due to situation. He beat out real NFL journeyman like Chris Brown and Ryan Moats. He earned his starts at the end of the year after starting the year on the practice squad. He averaged 4.8 YPC. Foster has more in common with Pierre Thomas or Justin Forsett than Wali Lundy.I don't think Foster is half as good as Pierre. But he may be better than Tate.You can't be a journeyman if you're a 2nd year player and have only played on 1 team.

 

[Go deep]

This reminds me of the hype of Nick Goings.

smells like Wali Lundy

Lundy was hyped before he ever played a game. Goings situation is alot more like Fosters. A journeyman RB who had a couple good games at the end of the season. Despite the fact that it was clear he would never be a good RB, people still insisted he was a great value in dynasty leagues considering how cheap you could get him.

Not sure Foster fits the definition of Journeyman RB just yet at this early point in his career. He was a once promising pro prospect in college whose draft stock fell. Not a Journeyman though.

Wali Lundy was hyped due to situation not talent. He was a 6th round pick who lucked into a shot at starting because Domanick Williams/Davis got hurt and there was no one else. Lundy failed miserably. Ron Dayne outperformed him, and Lundy never played again.Foster was not hyped due to situation. He beat out real NFL journeyman like Chris Brown and Ryan Moats. He earned his starts at the end of the year after starting the year on the practice squad. He averaged 4.8 YPC. Foster has more in common with Pierre Thomas or Justin Forsett than Wali Lundy.I don't think Foster is half as good as Pierre. But he may be better than Tate.You can't be a journeyman if you're a 2nd year player and have only played on 1 team.

Sorry, a journeyman in the making. He will likely play for 3-4 different teams before being forced into retirment in his late 20's.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

its important to note that he's the supposed lead dog going into training camp only. A good portion of that has to do with the fact he was the only 100% healthy of the 3 backs during OTAs. I still personally see him going into week 1 as the 3rd guy, but Kubiak is gonna ride the hot hand so if he has a strong camp, who knows.

say it with me folks: It's only June....Still, he's healthy and will have gotten more reps. Tate is unproven (Is he an ok back in a good situation or an good back in a good situation?) and Slaton got banged up. So he'll get an early look...

Further thought: how big a RBBC is this going to be? How will the reps get split? I think they will and that could also limit Foster's effectiveness and fantasy impact.

Hey AG,I agree and a lot will happen between now and September, but it would not surprise me if Foster is the lead back, Slaton is moved more into a slot (Reggie Bush) type role with 3 or 4 receptions a week, 7-8 carries, 10-12 solid touches if he can come back from his injury...the Texans don't have a fantastic WR2, just a capable guy that they did resign. Tate will have to get in line and earn his playing time. A mid to late 2nd round pick is not a gigantic investment so they don't need to push him out there. Also, Tate is going to have to learn to pass block if he ever imagines seeing a lot of time because Schaub is far more important to the team. This situation reminds me of Indy somewhat where Addai was being pushed out the door and Donald Brown never really got going. I think Tate will see action obviously but I wouldn't project a whole lot over 450-600 rushing yds from him. Slaton could gobble up many of the RB receptions.

Foster might have a chance at 1,000 total yds and 6-8Tds this year. Houston has to make the playoffs or Kubiak is gone, plain and simple. Tate feels like insurance to me and they probably would not have drafted him in the 2nd round if the RB class had been deeper.

 

[coolnerd]

its important to note that he's the supposed lead dog going into training camp only. A good portion of that has to do with the fact he was the only 100% healthy of the 3 backs during OTAs. I still personally see him going into week 1 as the 3rd guy, but Kubiak is gonna ride the hot hand so if he has a strong camp, who knows.

say it with me folks: It's only June....Still, he's healthy and will have gotten more reps. Tate is unproven (Is he an ok back in a good situation or an good back in a good situation?) and Slaton got banged up. So he'll get an early look...

Further thought: how big a RBBC is this going to be? How will the reps get split? I think they will and that could also limit Foster's effectiveness and fantasy impact.

Hey AG,I agree and a lot will happen between now and September, but it would not surprise me if Foster is the lead back, Slaton is moved more into a slot (Reggie Bush) type role with 3 or 4 receptions a week, 7-8 carries, 10-12 solid touches if he can come back from his injury...the Texans don't have a fantastic WR2, just a capable guy that they did resign. Tate will have to get in line and earn his playing time. A mid to late 2nd round pick is not a gigantic investment so they don't need to push him out there. Also, Tate is going to have to learn to pass block if he ever imagines seeing a lot of time because Schaub is far more important to the team. This situation reminds me of Indy somewhat where Addai was being pushed out the door and Donald Brown never really got going. I think Tate will see action obviously but I wouldn't project a whole lot over 450-600 rushing yds from him. Slaton could gobble up many of the RB receptions.

Foster might have a chance at 1,000 total yds and 6-8Tds this year. Houston has to make the playoffs or Kubiak is gone, plain and simple. Tate feels like insurance to me and they probably would not have drafted him in the 2nd round if the RB class had been deeper.

Fans and reporters think this, but everything I hear from by indirect (3/4 places removed) sources is that Kubaik has 2010 and 2011 barring that the 2010 non-playoff season is a disaster (an ugly 6-10 or worse). If it is more mediocrity probably more Kubiak in 2011. While owners throw away money all the time, Kubiak's entire staff (and GM Rick Smith) all have contracts through 2012. If Kubaik goes the Texans wil be starting over (again). The rest of the post is good good stuff and is logical as can be with a situation which is influx at the moment.

 

[saintfool]

I agree and a lot will happen between now and September, but it would not surprise me if Foster is the lead back, Slaton is moved more into a slot (Reggie Bush) type role with 3 or 4 receptions a week, 7-8 carries, 10-12 solid touches if he can come back from his injury...the Texans don't have a fantastic WR2, just a capable guy that they did resign. Tate will have to get in line and earn his playing time. A mid to late 2nd round pick is not a gigantic investment so they don't need to push him out there. Also, Tate is going to have to learn to pass block if he ever imagines seeing a lot of time because Schaub is far more important to the team. This situation reminds me of Indy somewhat where Addai was being pushed out the door and Donald Brown never really got going. I think Tate will see action obviously but I wouldn't project a whole lot over 450-600 rushing yds from him. Slaton could gobble up many of the RB receptions. Foster might have a chance at 1,000 total yds and 6-8Tds this year. Houston has to make the playoffs or Kubiak is gone, plain and simple. Tate feels like insurance to me and they probably would not have drafted him in the 2nd round if the RB class had been deeper.

i think the texans have more invested in tate than they do in foster. foster had two nice games at the end of season but he was pressed into duty for them. it's not like he really took the starts from slaton or whoever. more damning is that they *still* drafted tate - R2 is far more of an investment than what you are making it out to be - after what foster showed them. all of this foster chatter amounts to cognitive dissonance to me; as unremarkable as he might be, all signs point to tate.foster has the edge in experience but that's about it. this is what you would expect though. coaches talk all the time about players having to earn their reps and PT. tate is behind because he missed some of the OTAs with the hammy but he seems healthy now. we'll see how things shake out in training camp but kubiak has more reasons to want tate than he does foster. i'm more inclined to believe that tate lags behind foster in TC before getting ahead of foster as the season progresses.

 

[thriftyrocker]

foster had two nice games at the end of season but he was pressed into duty for them. it's not like he really took the starts from slaton or whoever.

Slaton was hurt, but Chris Brown and Moats were healthy. Those are "whoever" and he definitely took starts for them.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I agree and a lot will happen between now and September, but it would not surprise me if Foster is the lead back, Slaton is moved more into a slot (Reggie Bush) type role with 3 or 4 receptions a week, 7-8 carries, 10-12 solid touches if he can come back from his injury...the Texans don't have a fantastic WR2, just a capable guy that they did resign. Tate will have to get in line and earn his playing time. A mid to late 2nd round pick is not a gigantic investment so they don't need to push him out there. Also, Tate is going to have to learn to pass block if he ever imagines seeing a lot of time because Schaub is far more important to the team. This situation reminds me of Indy somewhat where Addai was being pushed out the door and Donald Brown never really got going. I think Tate will see action obviously but I wouldn't project a whole lot over 450-600 rushing yds from him. Slaton could gobble up many of the RB receptions. Foster might have a chance at 1,000 total yds and 6-8Tds this year. Houston has to make the playoffs or Kubiak is gone, plain and simple. Tate feels like insurance to me and they probably would not have drafted him in the 2nd round if the RB class had been deeper.

i think the texans have more invested in tate than they do in foster. foster had two nice games at the end of season but he was pressed into duty for them. it's not like he really took the starts from slaton or whoever. more damning is that they *still* drafted tate - R2 is far more of an investment than what you are making it out to be - after what foster showed them. all of this foster chatter amounts to cognitive dissonance to me; as unremarkable as he might be, all signs point to tate.foster has the edge in experience but that's about it. this is what you would expect though. coaches talk all the time about players having to earn their reps and PT. tate is behind because he missed some of the OTAs with the hammy but he seems healthy now. we'll see how things shake out in training camp but kubiak has more reasons to want tate than he does foster. i'm more inclined to believe that tate lags behind foster in TC before getting ahead of foster as the season progresses.

You believe what you want Saint, but a lot of what I have seen and heard is not glowing. Wanna read what one place was saying about Tate? He sure doesn't sound like a 2nd rounder most years..."Ben Tate looked good in his position drills at Auburn's Pro Day. He may sneak into the second round if a zone-blocking team is interested enough." He was grabbed by Kubiak and a zone blocking scheme other wise he might have fallen into the 3rd or 4th round, just saying. Some of Joe's dailys have been not been terrific news either. The wonderful thing about Foster is he basically costs you nothing. Just keep an eye on him, I certainly think he'll start the season but could easily be bumpd by Tate, and maybe quickly. Perhaps Foster will be the Quentin Griffin of 2010 but for now he bears watching.

 

[saintfool]

foster had two nice games at the end of season but he was pressed into duty for them. it's not like he really took the starts from slaton or whoever.

Slaton was hurt, but Chris Brown and Moats were healthy. Those are "whoever" and he definitely took starts for them.

i don't fault the texans for choosing foster over either of those guys. that said, it's not like they were really stiff competition either. good for foster to make the most of his opportunities. that doesn't make him the future either...

 

[saintfool]

You believe what you want Saint, but a lot of what I have seen and heard is not glowing.

Wanna read what one place was saying about Tate? He sure doesn't sound like a 2nd rounder most years..."Ben Tate looked good in his position drills at Auburn's Pro Day. He may sneak into the second round if a zone-blocking team is interested enough." He was grabbed by Kubiak and a zone blocking scheme other wise he might have fallen into the 3rd or 4th round, just saying.

Some of Joe's dailys have been not been terrific news either.

The wonderful thing about Foster is he basically costs you nothing. Just keep an eye on him, I certainly think he'll start the season but could easily be bumpd by Tate, and maybe quickly. Perhaps Foster will be the Quentin Griffin of 2010 but for now he bears watching.

see, i think it's interesting that DESPITE the limitations of his game the texans made a play for him at R2. according to your thinking, they could have waited for him in later rounds but didn't. i don't know what the reports from joe or others could be considering he's only just joined the OTAs because of a hammy. what were the reports following his introduction and return?

Coach Gary Kubiak joked that Tate was the fastest player at practice on Tuesday because he had fresh legs from sitting out while the rest of the team is a bit worn out from working for several weeks. He also liked the rookie’s effort.

“The thing I was impressed with is that he’s obviously been paying attention and knew what he was doing,” Kubiak said. “We were actually doing some tough stuff on them today as far as no scripting, just calling stuff and seeing how guys react and turning the noise on. So it was good to see him come out here and get going.

doesn't sound like an indictment to me but what do i know, MoP?

listen, foster should be the #1 going into training camp. he has the edge in experience from last season and the offseason after all. all things being equal between foster and tate, houston has more reasons to see tate succeed than foster. they're going to want to see some return on their investment sooner rather than later. all signs point to tate, imo.

 

[swirvenirvin]

 

[cr8f]

I could easily see this being a Tate/Slaton committee with Foster being odd man out and replaced easily.

I don't know if their is enough room on the roster for Foster. Buyer beware

I say buyer beware with Slaton's neck injury.

 

[Go deep]

I could easily see this being a Tate/Slaton committee with Foster being odd man out and replaced easily.

I don't know if their is enough room on the roster for Foster. Buyer beware

I say buyer beware with Slaton's neck injury.

I say buyer beware of the Texans running game as a whole.

 

[TheFanatic]

I could easily see this being a Tate/Slaton committee with Foster being odd man out and replaced easily.

I don't know if their is enough room on the roster for Foster. Buyer beware

I say buyer beware with Slaton's neck injury.

I say buyer beware of the Texans running game as a whole.

This.It's a mess. The cheapest option in terms of cost and chance to start is Foster, but that's not saying much. It's like saying, "I bought the $1 raffle ticket over the $5 and $20." All three have a less than 50% chance of being the major starter if all three are healthy. I keep seeing that Foster is the "starter" going into training camp. So what? They aren't going to name Tate the starter. And Slaton isn't going to be the starter unless he can prove he's healthy. If I'm not mistaken, Tate had to miss some OTA's because he hadn't graduated yet and Slaton had the red jersey on, so Foster is getting the first team reps. That's not a due to his overwhelming skill as a RB as much as it is he's the only option. All that being said, you've got three guys hungry to be the starter. At least that's what Kubiak hopes. Talk to me at the half of the third preseason game and I'll tell you who's starting week 1. I'm not sure that this fight will be won in TC and not be a dynamic battle lasting into the season. I'm a Slaton owner who will be sitting him on the bench or using him as a flex if need be (PPR) early on otherwise I'm going to wait and see....

 

[Lascelle]

All that being said, you've got three guys hungry to be the starter. At least that's what Kubiak hopes. Talk to me at the half of the third preseason game and I'll tell you who's starting week 1. I'm not sure that this fight will be won in TC and not be a dynamic battle lasting into the season.

Unless 2 of these 3 guys are cut or go down with an injury, I doubt anything will ever be settled in Houston.Kubiak's liable to bench his defacto starter indefinitely for having his hair parted the wrong way on game day.

 

[T with T]

I have room to keep Foster on my dynasty and I will because I don't want to get caught up assuming anything. It certainly APPEARS that Tate is in a good position, but lots could happen:

-Injury could push Foster right back up.

-Tate could have ball security issues (not aware that he does now) and we all know that is DOOM to Kubiak's players.

In short, its just too early and we saw that Foster could do the job so I will hold him and, at the least, try to put him and Tate together on a fantasy team (either trading to or for). I think both will have roles that are serviceable in FF and Slaton may be the odd guy out.

Even being Slaton owner I find this laughable. People are selling this guy so short right now it is becoming comical.

Slaton has big time NFL skills. In fact he has proven so over his first 2 seasons. Did he put the ball on the gorund last year? Yes....but after hearing of his pinched nerve in his right shoulder nI can now understand why he may have lost more fumbles than normal. Also add in the fact that Houstons line was g-d aweful at run blocking last season and you have what looked like a sub par season. But before he went on IR....Slaton was running as a top 12 PPR back. Was he impressive last year? Not all the time. But he showed in quite a few games that he can ball and take it to the house on any play. He is a great pass catcher and has shown he can handle 17-20 carries a game. I think he can win the job outright....but based on what I am reading they drafted Tate in the hopes he can be the lead back....but to say Foster will beat out Slaton is pure comedy...I wathced Foster play. He is no Steve Slaton.

God it is so refreshing to read your post brother, how idiotic are these people to downright count out slaton... Keep in mind that in 08 slaton was 7th best runner in PPR with 258 points ahead of CJ2k.... in 09 like the guy said he had pinched nerve, horrible run blocking and he still avg 15 ppg in ppr and was top 12..... where do u few peeps get the idea that slaton will be man out... only way that would happen is if slaton can't play because of injury and I think he will be healthier then he was last year for sure and the loss of the 10 lbs should make him more explosive... Slaton is awesome if you ask me and can handle 200 carries and 60 catches and be a top 12-15 running back in ppr format

 

[maccabees]

Slaton's injury is what everyone is concerned about "cervical neck fusion"

How many RBs have had this type of injury and gone on to play well?

As a matter of fact how many players at other positions have had this injury, how well did they play after the injury??

What To Expect After Surgery

This surgery usually requires a short stay in the hospital. You may need to wear a brace on your neck (cervical collar) during recovery.

Why It Is Done

Cervical spinal fusion may be done:

After an injury, to stabilize the neck and prevent a bone fracture from causing instability or damage to the spinal cord , which may result in paralysis.

To treat conditions such as misalignment of the vertebrae.

As a follow-up procedure to treat spinal stenosis, a herniated disc, the effects of rheumatoid arthritis, an infection, tumors, or spinal deformities.

How Well It Works

Cervical spinal fusion is usually successful in relieving symptoms, but complications sometimes occur. Repeat surgery is sometimes needed to address complications or recurrence.

Risks

Although cervical spinal fusion stiffens part of the neck, this does not reduce neck flexibility for most people.

Surgery and the use of anesthesia involve some risk. The risks associated with this procedure vary depending on your age and overall health, diagnosis, and type of procedure used. Risks include:

Pain in a bone graft site (donor site).

Failure of the fusion, breakage of metal implants (if used), or both.

Blood clots in deep veins.

Nerve or spinal cord injury.

Graft rejection.

Infection.

Excessive bleeding.

Risks of general anesthesia.

What To Think About

Cervical spinal fusion is sometimes used:

To treat acute injuries, such as fractures and dislocations.

For mechanical or structural problems causing disabling pain (such as from cancer or infection).

 

[T with T]

cj2k had neck surg in 06 and he has turned out ok...... this is all bs.. slatons surg went perf and he is already cleard for camp... all u loser texan fans shut up about foster/tate already dipshi%s.... the best back on the team is slaton period... wake up

 

[DansRams]

cj2k had neck surg in 06 and he has turned out ok...... this is all bs.. slatons surg went perf and he is already cleard for camp... all u loser texan fans shut up about foster/tate already dipshi%s.... the best back on the team is slaton period... wake up

lol...drop that pipe before you hurt yourself

 

[Bri]

heard this before, why is it different now?

 

[coolnerd]

heard this before, why is it different now?

Nothing has changed. Lots of people speculating: some of them logical, some of them wild ace guessing, some of them talking with thier heart/fantasy team. None of us knowing what really going to happen until it actually plays out.

 

[Go deep]

I could easily see this being a Tate/Slaton committee with Foster being odd man out and replaced easily.

I don't know if their is enough room on the roster for Foster. Buyer beware

I say buyer beware with Slaton's neck injury.

I say buyer beware of the Texans running game as a whole.

This.It's a mess. The cheapest option in terms of cost and chance to start is Foster, but that's not saying much. It's like saying, "I bought the $1 raffle ticket over the $5 and $20." All three have a less than 50% chance of being the major starter if all three are healthy.

I keep seeing that Foster is the "starter" going into training camp. So what? They aren't going to name Tate the starter. And Slaton isn't going to be the starter unless he can prove he's healthy. If I'm not mistaken, Tate had to miss some OTA's because he hadn't graduated yet and Slaton had the red jersey on, so Foster is getting the first team reps. That's not a due to his overwhelming skill as a RB as much as it is he's the only option.

All that being said, you've got three guys hungry to be the starter. At least that's what Kubiak hopes. Talk to me at the half of the third preseason game and I'll tell you who's starting week 1. I'm not sure that this fight will be won in TC and not be a dynamic battle lasting into the season.

I'm a Slaton owner who will be sitting him on the bench or using him as a flex if need be (PPR) early on otherwise I'm going to wait and see....

This is a good analogy, except if Foster is $1, so is Slaton. Foster is going higher than Slaton in the drafts i have seen. Tate wouldnt be $20 either, not even half that, he has been going in rounds 6-7. The problem i have with Foster is the same problem i have with buying a lottery ticcket for a $1, you know you are not going to win, you just get to dream for a bit.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Seems like a hot topic again

 

[Ariakis]

Hope everyone in dynasties held on Foster!