Arian Foster (2 Viewers)

[Ministry of Pain]

First post in this thread. So what have I missed?

Arian Foster's ADP is declining. It was middle of Round 2 yesterday, now it is down to early 3rd Round.The Jeremiah Johnson hype train has cheap tickets but is filling up fast.

That's a good summary actually

 

[humpback]

I was talking about Foster not losing his starting job, which should be pretty obvious- he came out of the week 15 game when he fumbled, then started the next two games. Might want to slow down and read before you get all chippy.

Pretty sure it reads like I said. Foster likely retained the job because he was the only back left that was healthy. Slaton lost it because he went on IR.

Regardless of why Foster retained the job, the fact is he did- the fumble was the reason why he was bench for the rest of that game, but it did not cost him his starting job. Slaton lost the job before he went on IR because he stunk and carried the football like it was on fire.

 

[GregR_2]

I started talking about this over in the Foster vs Slaton number of carries thread, but let me repeat it here and add some updated thoughts.

I thought 2 years ago that Slaton's success was very dependent on the above average run blocking from the Texans O-line. As I watched him all season I didn't recall a lot of broken tackles or displays of pure ability that were what made the play happen. He was a good, solid RB, with a good burst who could get to a corner and turn it, but without good top end speed (always caught from behind).

Last year the O-line fell apart in run blocking when both starting guards were lost early in the year. The pass blocking was still pretty good all year, but the run blocking overall was quite poor. Slaton had the injury to contend with obviously, but he also still didn't show me he was a RB who could get significant yards when there wasn't good blocking.

So far this preseason has looked more like 2008 and less like 2009 as far as the O-line play. Of course it's a little hard to say how much stock to put in that based on a preseason where the first string looked bad against the Saints in game 2, then looked like world champions against a Dallas team that played without any heart or intensity.

In any event, what I'm saying is, optimism I have about Foster is as much based on seeing the O-line playing better as it is what I've seen from Foster himself. And if the O-line is indeed playing better, I expect Slaton is going to look good playing behind it too. I think Foster will continue to hold onto the starting job unless he gets injured or fumbles it away, but I can see Slaton looking good and earning plenty of carries too now that the line is playing better again.

 

[WVU Alum]

I was talking about Foster not losing his starting job, which should be pretty obvious- he came out of the week 15 game when he fumbled, then started the next two games. Might want to slow down and read before you get all chippy.

Pretty sure it reads like I said. Foster likely retained the job because he was the only back left that was healthy. Slaton lost it because he went on IR.

Regardless of why Foster retained the job, the fact is he did- the fumble was the reason why he was bench for the rest of that game, but it did not cost him his starting job. Slaton lost the job before he went on IR because he stunk and carried the football like it was on fire.

Slaton was benched. So was Foster. The difference was Slaton went to IR. You do see the correlation, right?Slaton lost the battle to be #1 in camp and pre-season this year. Foster won it. I know it is semantics but he lost the job this summer.

 

[Doug B]

why is Arian Foster still #28 on FBG ranks???

... hmmm ... looks like one's source for fantasy info has a lot to do with where one thinks it's reasonable to take Foster.

true, but opportunity alone merits this guy to be in the top 20 RB's. you know im right.

Hey, Jude ( ) ... I'm on your side. Just trying to explain the source of some doubt.

 

[Shutout]

I have room to keep Foster on my dynasty and I will because I don't want to get caught up assuming anything. It certainly APPEARS that Tate is in a good position, but lots could happen:-Injury could push Foster right back up.-Tate could have ball security issues (not aware that he does now) and we all know that is DOOM to Kubiak's players.In short, its just too early and we saw that Foster could do the job so i will hold him and, at the least, try to put him and Tate together on a fantasy team (either trading to or for). I think both will have roles that are serviceable in FF and Slayton may be the odd guy out.

Bumping for update. Looks like the injury happened and now here we are. I saw a couple people say that they didn't think much of my take on Slaton but I still think its time for people to let him go. That ship is fast leaving the port.Overall, I just don't get how a lot of people are so quick to discredit Foster and talk like we're crazy to give him a high draft value but then its ok to rank guys like Ryan Matthews even higher, despite the fact that we have at least actually seen Foster produce in real games that count? It comes down to perceptions and pre-conceived notions. People think that just because a guy was drafted in round one and the other guy wasn't that one is automatically destined to be worth it and the other isn't. I go by what I see in games and I'll stand by it: Foster is worth every bit of where he is going right now. He'll shine this year.

 

[Tybeeman]

Bottom line, Foster is currently atop the Houston depth chart. As a participant in fantasy football all I want is my guy to get an opportunity to carry the proverbial "load". As of now, he'll get that chance. I couldn't care less if he was an UDFA. The fact is he's currently the RB1 in Houston, so he must have some talent. Will he succeed and become a fantasy stud, only time will tell.

 

[humpback]

I was talking about Foster not losing his starting job, which should be pretty obvious- he came out of the week 15 game when he fumbled, then started the next two games. Might want to slow down and read before you get all chippy.

Pretty sure it reads like I said. Foster likely retained the job because he was the only back left that was healthy. Slaton lost it because he went on IR.

Regardless of why Foster retained the job, the fact is he did- the fumble was the reason why he was bench for the rest of that game, but it did not cost him his starting job. Slaton lost the job before he went on IR because he stunk and carried the football like it was on fire.

Slaton was benched. So was Foster. The difference was Slaton went to IR. You do see the correlation, right?Slaton lost the battle to be #1 in camp and pre-season this year. Foster won it. I know it is semantics but he lost the job this summer.

Slaton was benched in week 8, then played 3 more weeks where he had 21 combined carries before going in IR. He lost his job. Foster was benched in week 15, then started the next two games where he had 39 carries. He did not lose his job. You do see the difference, right?Back to my original point- while I agree the hype for Foster is a bit high right now, I also think the whole "he's worthless once he fumbles for the first time" argument isn't a very good one. It took Slaton 7 fumbles in 7 1/2 games before he lost his job (to go along with his 3.3 ypc), so I think people are going a bit overboard thinking that Foster will lose his job after his first one. It obviously won't bode well for him if he fumbles in his first game, but he'll be fine if he produces for the first few weeks and then coughs one up in week 5 or 6.

 

[Todem]

I am a big Steve Slaton fan...everyone knows this. But I am not blinded by that. I drafted Foster last night in the 4th round and felt very good about it.

I thought Slaton could beat him out. I was wrong. I watched the game against Dallas. And I take the stats with a grain of salt. But the thing that was clear was. He is the man. He is the RB1. That's all I needed to know. It also helped that he did look very very good despite how bad Dallas played. He made the plays, was decisive, caught the ball, stayed in on third downs early, and handled all goaline duites. That is crystal clear.

I hope he kills it this year.

 

[DansRams]

I have room to keep Foster on my dynasty and I will because I don't want to get caught up assuming anything. It certainly APPEARS that Tate is in a good position, but lots could happen:-Injury could push Foster right back up.-Tate could have ball security issues (not aware that he does now) and we all know that is DOOM to Kubiak's players.In short, its just too early and we saw that Foster could do the job so i will hold him and, at the least, try to put him and Tate together on a fantasy team (either trading to or for). I think both will have roles that are serviceable in FF and Slayton may be the odd guy out.

Bumping for update. Looks like the injury happened and now here we are. I saw a couple people say that they didn't think much of my take on Slaton but I still think its time for people to let him go. That ship is fast leaving the port.Overall, I just don't get how a lot of people are so quick to discredit Foster and talk like we're crazy to give him a high draft value but then its ok to rank guys like Ryan Matthews even higher, despite the fact that we have at least actually seen Foster produce in real games that count? It comes down to perceptions and pre-conceived notions. People think that just because a guy was drafted in round one and the other guy wasn't that one is automatically destined to be worth it and the other isn't. I go by what I see in games and I'll stand by it: Foster is worth every bit of where he is going right now. He'll shine this year.

 

[DansRams]

I am a big Steve Slaton fan...everyone knows this. But I am not blinded by that. I drafted Foster last night in the 4th round and felt very good about it.

I thought Slaton could beat him out. I was wrong. I watched the game against Dallas. And I take the stats with a grain of salt. But the thing that was clear was. He is the man. He is the RB1. That's all I needed to know. It also helped that he did look very very good despite how bad Dallas played. He made the plays, was decisive, caught the ball, stayed in on third downs early, and handled all goaline duites. That is crystal clear.

I hope he kills it this year.

It's amazing that more of the "haters" can't get their head around this...is there risk...yes. There is risk with all RB's...half of the top 10 rated will likely not end up in the top ten.

The guy is the undisputed #1 RB in a top 5 offence....this isn't rocket science.....odds are he will produce at a very high level

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I am a big Steve Slaton fan...everyone knows this. But I am not blinded by that. I drafted Foster last night in the 4th round and felt very good about it.

I thought Slaton could beat him out. I was wrong. I watched the game against Dallas. And I take the stats with a grain of salt. But the thing that was clear was. He is the man. He is the RB1. That's all I needed to know. It also helped that he did look very very good despite how bad Dallas played. He made the plays, was decisive, caught the ball, stayed in on third downs early, and handled all goaline duites. That is crystal clear.

I hope he kills it this year.

It's amazing that more of the "haters" can't get their head around this...is there risk...yes. There is risk with all RB's...half of the top 10 rated will likely not end up in the top ten.

The guy is the undisputed #1 RB in a top 5 offence....this isn't rocket science.....odds are he will produce at a very high level

Who's hating?

 

[DansRams]

I am a big Steve Slaton fan...everyone knows this. But I am not blinded by that. I drafted Foster last night in the 4th round and felt very good about it.

I thought Slaton could beat him out. I was wrong. I watched the game against Dallas. And I take the stats with a grain of salt. But the thing that was clear was. He is the man. He is the RB1. That's all I needed to know. It also helped that he did look very very good despite how bad Dallas played. He made the plays, was decisive, caught the ball, stayed in on third downs early, and handled all goaline duites. That is crystal clear.

I hope he kills it this year.

It's amazing that more of the "haters" can't get their head around this...is there risk...yes. There is risk with all RB's...half of the top 10 rated will likely not end up in the top ten.

The guy is the undisputed #1 RB in a top 5 offence....this isn't rocket science.....odds are he will produce at a very high level

Who's hating?

lol...I didn't say anyone was hating...I called them "haters". Don't try to play word games ....you know what I meant. Many have had a hard time figuring out that SOMETIMES the guy "out of nowhere" will bcome a very productive fantasy player. All of the signs are there for Foster. Great team, great opportunity (as the unquestioned RB1) and he has passed the eyeball test. You happen to be one of the ones who just refuses to see it.

You could be right...he may not make it, but it seems to me the available information says he will. If you want to post "UDFA", "not an elite talent", "he might fumble" blah blah blah...just save it...heard it before. The positives WAY outway the speculated negatives. If you can't see it, then keep on hating...there, now you can say I said someone is hating

 

[Hear-the-Footsteps]

Here's what I don't get:

Tons of love for A.Foster in this thread. TONS!

Yet when I just checked out the most recent FBG expert redraft rankings for RBs only in a PPR league, only 1 of the 10 staff members that has RB PPR rankings up in the last 7 days has him inside the top 20.

That's right. 9 of 10 have him 22nd or worse.

And 7 of 10 have him 27th or worse.

And 5 have him 31st or worse.

Is this...

(A) they don't agree with what seem to be a ton of Shark Forum Posters? And thus, the Shark Pool may be getting way ahead of itself?

OR...

(B) they just re-submit their rankings without really looking at them - ie, they like Foster, but have failed to update their rankings?

 

[Amused to Death]

Here's what I don't get:

Tons of love for A.Foster in this thread. TONS!

Yet when I just checked out the most recent FBG expert redraft rankings for RBs only in a PPR league, only 1 of the 10 staff members that has RB PPR rankings up in the last 7 days has him inside the top 20.

That's right. 9 of 10 have him 22nd or worse.

And 7 of 10 have him 27th or worse.

And 5 have him 31st or worse.

Is this...

(A) they don't agree with what seem to be a ton of Shark Forum Posters? And thus, the Shark Pool may be getting way ahead of itself?

OR...

(B) they just re-submit their rankings without really looking at them - ie, they like Foster, but have failed to update their rankings?

One of the experts says in his write about him "you can draft him for the price of a bye week fill in. (Wed, Aug 11)."And that's with the filter set to updates in the last 3 days.

 

[Carver]

in a top 5 offence

Wait... he plays for Cincy?

 

[Payne]

After taking Calvin and Wayne at 1.12 / 2.1, I am staring at taking two of the following at the 3.12 / 4.1 spot:

P. Thomas, Charles, Best, Greene, Wells, Addai and Foster.

My gut says take Foster and Best and swing for the fences.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Here's what I don't get:

Tons of love for A.Foster in this thread. TONS!

Yet when I just checked out the most recent FBG expert redraft rankings for RBs only in a PPR league, only 1 of the 10 staff members that has RB PPR rankings up in the last 7 days has him inside the top 20.

That's right. 9 of 10 have him 22nd or worse.

And 7 of 10 have him 27th or worse.

And 5 have him 31st or worse.

Is this...

(A) they don't agree with what seem to be a ton of Shark Forum Posters? And thus, the Shark Pool may be getting way ahead of itself?

OR...

(B) they just re-submit their rankings without really looking at them - ie, they like Foster, but have failed to update their rankings?

One of the experts says in his write about him "you can draft him for the price of a bye week fill in. (Wed, Aug 11)."And that's with the filter set to updates in the last 3 days.

Boooooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

[rascal]

What RB ranking do you guys have him at?

top 12??? top 20 for sure IMO. But not sure I can put him higher than 16.

 

[Kuz]

After taking Calvin and Wayne at 1.12 / 2.1, I am staring at taking two of the following at the 3.12 / 4.1 spot. Thomas, Charles, Best, Greene, Wells, Addai and Foster.My gut says take Foster and Best and swing for the fences.

You really think all of those RB's will be there at the 3/4 turn? I would think Wells,Addai & Foster. not sure about the other three. I would think they are all most likely gone in the 3rd.

 

[Christo]

Here's what I don't get:

Tons of love for A.Foster in this thread. TONS!

Yet when I just checked out the most recent FBG expert redraft rankings for RBs only in a PPR league, only 1 of the 10 staff members that has RB PPR rankings up in the last 7 days has him inside the top 20.

That's right. 9 of 10 have him 22nd or worse.

And 7 of 10 have him 27th or worse.

And 5 have him 31st or worse.

Is this...

(A) they don't agree with what seem to be a ton of Shark Forum Posters? And thus, the Shark Pool may be getting way ahead of itself?

OR...

(B) they just re-submit their rankings without really looking at them - ie, they like Foster, but have failed to update their rankings?

© it's a combination of not wanting to admit their initial ranking of him was so far off in combination with not wanting to be seen to be bowing to outside pressure.As we get closer to opening day, we'll see his ranking slowly but surely rise. But right now it's too soon for the "experts" to stick out their necks.

 

[Payne]

After taking Calvin and Wayne at 1.12 / 2.1, I am staring at taking two of the following at the 3.12 / 4.1 spot. Thomas, Charles, Best, Greene, Wells, Addai and Foster.My gut says take Foster and Best and swing for the fences.

You really think all of those RB's will be there at the 3/4 turn? I would think Wells,Addai & Foster. not sure about the other three. I would think they are all most likely gone in the 3rd.

I know so. Draft is currently at 3.10 and all of those guys are still sitting there. 12 team league. .5 PPR.

 

[Kuz]

After taking Calvin and Wayne at 1.12 / 2.1, I am staring at taking two of the following at the 3.12 / 4.1 spot. Thomas, Charles, Best, Greene, Wells, Addai and Foster.My gut says take Foster and Best and swing for the fences.

You really think all of those RB's will be there at the 3/4 turn? I would think Wells,Addai & Foster. not sure about the other three. I would think they are all most likely gone in the 3rd.

I know so. Draft is currently at 3.10 and all of those guys are still sitting there. 12 team league. .5 PPR.

Wow.. good to know. is this a 6 point QB league?

 

[Payne]

After taking Calvin and Wayne at 1.12 / 2.1, I am staring at taking two of the following at the 3.12 / 4.1 spot. Thomas, Charles, Best, Greene, Wells, Addai and Foster.My gut says take Foster and Best and swing for the fences.

You really think all of those RB's will be there at the 3/4 turn? I would think Wells,Addai & Foster. not sure about the other three. I would think they are all most likely gone in the 3rd.

I know so. Draft is currently at 3.10 and all of those guys are still sitting there. 12 team league. .5 PPR.

Wow.. good to know. is this a 6 point QB league?

No 4pts

 

[hook014]

After taking Calvin and Wayne at 1.12 / 2.1, I am staring at taking two of the following at the 3.12 / 4.1 spot. Thomas, Charles, Best, Greene, Wells, Addai and Foster.My gut says take Foster and Best and swing for the fences.

You really think all of those RB's will be there at the 3/4 turn? I would think Wells,Addai & Foster. not sure about the other three. I would think they are all most likely gone in the 3rd.

I know so. Draft is currently at 3.10 and all of those guys are still sitting there. 12 team league. .5 PPR.

Good choices to have. I would think you have to go with some combo of Charles/ best/ foster. All the others have bigger timeshare issues. Not that these three don't, but they don't seem as threatening.The swing for the fences theory may actually be a safer bet.

 

[Tango]

So far this preseason has looked more like 2008 and less like 2009 as far as the O-line play. Of course it's a little hard to say how much stock to put in that based on a preseason where the first string looked bad against the Saints in game 2, then looked like world champions against a Dallas team that played without any heart or intensity.In any event, what I'm saying is, optimism I have about Foster is as much based on seeing the O-line playing better as it is what I've seen from Foster himself. And if the O-line is indeed playing better, I expect Slaton is going to look good playing behind it too. I think Foster will continue to hold onto the starting job unless he gets injured or fumbles it away, but I can see Slaton looking good and earning plenty of carries too now that the line is playing better again.

I think this shorts Foster a little. Foster ran well against the Saints and the Cowboys; and when I say ran well...he was breaking tackles, making moves, showed patience to let blocks develop and bulled over d-backs for extra yards; the whole package. The o-line looked well too, no doubt, but I think it is beyond a stretch to say that Foster took what the o-line gave him. Foster played exceptionally well on a standalone basis against the Cowboys and, aside from the fumble, against the Saints too.

 

[buck naked]

Foster went at 3.1 in a WCOFF style league (1 ppr) tonight.

 

[Ranethe]

After taking Calvin and Wayne at 1.12 / 2.1, I am staring at taking two of the following at the 3.12 / 4.1 spot. Thomas, Charles, Best, Greene, Wells, Addai and Foster.My gut says take Foster and Best and swing for the fences.

You really think all of those RB's will be there at the 3/4 turn? I would think Wells,Addai & Foster. not sure about the other three. I would think they are all most likely gone in the 3rd.

I know so. Draft is currently at 3.10 and all of those guys are still sitting there. 12 team league. .5 PPR.

I can see Best, But I wouldn't personally be taking Foster over Charles, Wells, or Greene, possibly even Addai. I can see taking him over Thomas. We all see things differently obviously, just IMO.

 

[Payne]

(Rotoworld) Beat writer John McClain confirms that Arian Foster will be the Texans' goal-line back and thinks he'll score 10 to 15 touchdowns if he stays healthy.

Analysis: McClain isn't doing anything to help keep Foster's rapidly soaring average draft position down. He notes that Foster is playing with a chip on his shoulder after going undrafted last season and runs well inside the 5-yard line. The Texans also figure to be in the red zone a ton with that high-powered offense. Foster should be coming off draft boards in the fourth round at the latest right now.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I am a big Steve Slaton fan...everyone knows this. But I am not blinded by that. I drafted Foster last night in the 4th round and felt very good about it.

I thought Slaton could beat him out. I was wrong. I watched the game against Dallas. And I take the stats with a grain of salt. But the thing that was clear was. He is the man. He is the RB1. That's all I needed to know. It also helped that he did look very very good despite how bad Dallas played. He made the plays, was decisive, caught the ball, stayed in on third downs early, and handled all goaline duites. That is crystal clear.

I hope he kills it this year.

It's amazing that more of the "haters" can't get their head around this...is there risk...yes. There is risk with all RB's...half of the top 10 rated will likely not end up in the top ten.

The guy is the undisputed #1 RB in a top 5 offence....this isn't rocket science.....odds are he will produce at a very high level

Who's hating?

lol...I didn't say anyone was hating...I called them "haters". Don't try to play word games ....you know what I meant. Many have had a hard time figuring out that SOMETIMES the guy "out of nowhere" will bcome a very productive fantasy player. All of the signs are there for Foster. Great team, great opportunity (as the unquestioned RB1) and he has passed the eyeball test. You happen to be one of the ones who just refuses to see it.

You could be right...he may not make it, but it seems to me the available information says he will. If you want to post "UDFA", "not an elite talent", "he might fumble" blah blah blah...just save it...heard it before. The positives WAY outway the speculated negatives. If you can't see it, then keep on hating...there, now you can say I said someone is hating

Try reading comprehension much?

#1, By calling out "haters", you'd be referring to people that are hating...

#2, No where have I ever said Foster wouldn't be able to do it...

You're manufacturing an argument that isn't there, there haven't been many people in this thread or on this site that have said he's not going to be good, and currently in this thread (in the last 2 days), there is hardly been a negative word towards him.

Next time try reading the current thread conversation....

LOL at you accusing me of being a "hater", "refusing to see it", "playing word games"...

 

[Avery]

Not that anyone cares, but I just bought him in a three player keeper RB heavy league at the keeper deadline at a cheap price.

I feel like it's one of those "swing for the fences" type of moves that will send my team one way or the other. I just hope that MJD knows what he's talking about.

 

[DansRams]

I am a big Steve Slaton fan...everyone knows this. But I am not blinded by that. I drafted Foster last night in the 4th round and felt very good about it.

I thought Slaton could beat him out. I was wrong. I watched the game against Dallas. And I take the stats with a grain of salt. But the thing that was clear was. He is the man. He is the RB1. That's all I needed to know. It also helped that he did look very very good despite how bad Dallas played. He made the plays, was decisive, caught the ball, stayed in on third downs early, and handled all goaline duites. That is crystal clear.

I hope he kills it this year.

It's amazing that more of the "haters" can't get their head around this...is there risk...yes. There is risk with all RB's...half of the top 10 rated will likely not end up in the top ten.

The guy is the undisputed #1 RB in a top 5 offence....this isn't rocket science.....odds are he will produce at a very high level

Who's hating?

lol...I didn't say anyone was hating...I called them "haters". Don't try to play word games ....you know what I meant. Many have had a hard time figuring out that SOMETIMES the guy "out of nowhere" will bcome a very productive fantasy player. All of the signs are there for Foster. Great team, great opportunity (as the unquestioned RB1) and he has passed the eyeball test. You happen to be one of the ones who just refuses to see it.

You could be right...he may not make it, but it seems to me the available information says he will. If you want to post "UDFA", "not an elite talent", "he might fumble" blah blah blah...just save it...heard it before. The positives WAY outway the speculated negatives. If you can't see it, then keep on hating...there, now you can say I said someone is hating

Try reading comprehension much?

#1, By calling out "haters", you'd be referring to people that are hating...

#2, No where have I ever said Foster wouldn't be able to do it...

You're manufacturing an argument that isn't there, there haven't been many people in this thread or on this site that have said he's not going to be good, and currently in this thread (in the last 2 days), there is hardly been a negative word towards him.

Next time try reading the current thread conversation....

LOL at you accusing me of being a "hater", "refusing to see it", "playing word games"...

Sorry...mixed you up with someone else who had been "hating" on Foster ...there are a few. I guess I really need to not drink and post BTW I used to live in the Emerald Lake Golf course neighborhood right by you, so be nice to a nieghbor please

 

[Amused to Death]

Here's what I don't get:

Tons of love for A.Foster in this thread. TONS!

Yet when I just checked out the most recent FBG expert redraft rankings for RBs only in a PPR league, only 1 of the 10 staff members that has RB PPR rankings up in the last 7 days has him inside the top 20.

That's right. 9 of 10 have him 22nd or worse.

And 7 of 10 have him 27th or worse.

And 5 have him 31st or worse.

Is this...

(A) they don't agree with what seem to be a ton of Shark Forum Posters? And thus, the Shark Pool may be getting way ahead of itself?

OR...

(B) they just re-submit their rankings without really looking at them - ie, they like Foster, but have failed to update their rankings?

Not to beat a dead horse on this, but this question got me thinking. Two experts who have him ranked among the lowest have this still posted on their latest rankings:"The secret is starting to get out about Arian Foster, but for now he's still being lumped into a nebulous committee with rookie Ben Tate and injury returner Steve Slaton." And also still says "you can draft him for the price of a bye week fill in"

Really? He's still battling for touches with Ben Tate? Draft him for the price of a bye week fill in? And this was updated in the last 3 days? Gotta wonder how closely this expert is watching the Houston RB situation.

Another expert, who updated his rankings in the last 3 days still has this blurb from August 6th, "Looks like the best RB in this RBBC in Houston".

Both of these guys have AF ranked lower than most of the others.

 

[Doug B]

Not to beat a dead horse on this, but this question got me thinking. Two experts who have him ranked among the lowest have this still posted on their latest rankings:

"The secret is starting to get out about Arian Foster, but for now he's still being lumped into a nebulous committee with rookie Ben Tate and injury returner Steve Slaton." And also still says "you can draft him for the price of a bye week fill in"

Really? He's still battling for touches with Ben Tate? Draft him for the price of a bye week fill in? And this was updated in the last 3 days? Gotta wonder how closely this expert is watching the Houston RB situation.

Another expert, who updated his rankings in the last 3 days still has this blurb from August 6th, "Looks like the best RB in this RBBC in Houston".

Both of these guys have AF ranked lower than most of the others.

That's ... hmm ... problematic for a pay site.I can understand any one individual prognosticator not wanting to follow the herd. But prognosticators should be aware of about where competing paysites have players ranked, IMHO. If there is major divergence from conventional wisdom (even if it's very recent CW), it should be explained. A paysite prognosticator never wants to look like he's behind the curve.

 

[Amused to Death]

Not to beat a dead horse on this, but this question got me thinking. Two experts who have him ranked among the lowest have this still posted on their latest rankings:

"The secret is starting to get out about Arian Foster, but for now he's still being lumped into a nebulous committee with rookie Ben Tate and injury returner Steve Slaton." And also still says "you can draft him for the price of a bye week fill in"

Really? He's still battling for touches with Ben Tate? Draft him for the price of a bye week fill in? And this was updated in the last 3 days? Gotta wonder how closely this expert is watching the Houston RB situation.

Another expert, who updated his rankings in the last 3 days still has this blurb from August 6th, "Looks like the best RB in this RBBC in Houston".

Both of these guys have AF ranked lower than most of the others.

That's ... hmm ... problematic for a pay site.I can understand any one individual prognosticator not wanting to follow the herd. But prognosticators should be aware of about where competing paysites have players ranked, IMHO. If there is major divergence from conventional wisdom (even if it's very recent CW), it should be explained. A paysite prognosticator never wants to look like he's behind the curve.

I have not issue if they think differently about a player and have good reason. Right now though, you don't drop AF down a notch because he's still battling with Ben Tate.

 

[Doug B]

I have not issue if they think differently about a player and have good reason. Right now though, you don't drop AF down a notch because he's still battling with Ben Tate.

 

[ImTheScientist]

If Foster busts how will you guys drafting him in the 3rd round feel?

 

[Exit 1]

If Foster busts how will you guys drafting him in the 3rd round feel?

Better than the owner who drafted Stephen Jackson in the 1st and he became a bust.

 

[Gr00vus]

Not to beat a dead horse on this, but this question got me thinking. Two experts who have him ranked among the lowest have this still posted on their latest rankings:

"The secret is starting to get out about Arian Foster, but for now he's still being lumped into a nebulous committee with rookie Ben Tate and injury returner Steve Slaton." And also still says "you can draft him for the price of a bye week fill in"

Really? He's still battling for touches with Ben Tate? Draft him for the price of a bye week fill in? And this was updated in the last 3 days? Gotta wonder how closely this expert is watching the Houston RB situation.

Another expert, who updated his rankings in the last 3 days still has this blurb from August 6th, "Looks like the best RB in this RBBC in Houston".

Both of these guys have AF ranked lower than most of the others.

That's ... hmm ... problematic for a pay site.I can understand any one individual prognosticator not wanting to follow the herd. But prognosticators should be aware of about where competing paysites have players ranked, IMHO. If there is major divergence from conventional wisdom (even if it's very recent CW), it should be explained. A paysite prognosticator never wants to look like he's behind the curve.

I have not issue if they think differently about a player and have good reason. Right now though, you don't drop AF down a notch because he's still battling with Ben Tate.

Given the current (all done in the last 2 days) forecast projection rankings (no commentary) on this site, the main difference between Foster landing at RB 28/29 (3 of the 4 experts here) and RB 11 (one of the experts here) is about 50 rushing yards, 200 to 250 receiving yards, 1 td, and 20-30 receptions. So it seems the key discrepancy in the FBGs' evaluations revolves around expectations of Foster's utilization in the passing game. I have no clue as to how he'll be used there, but if you can figure it out maybe you'll have a better fix on his value, particularly if you're in PPR leagues.

 

[Christo]

If Foster busts how will you guys drafting him in the 3rd round feel?

No worse than drafting another player in the 3rd who busts--as is almost certainly going to happen to someone in every league.No guts, no glory.

 

[chidoy]

If Foster busts how will you guys drafting him in the 3rd round feel?

how bout the 7th?

 

[Koya]

I can see Best, But I wouldn't personally be taking Foster over Charles, Wells, or Greene, possibly even Addai. I can see taking him over Thomas. We all see things differently obviously, just IMO.

If Foster busts how will you guys drafting him in the 3rd round feel?

Like everything in FF, it's about value.To the first quote - I think a lot has to do with personal preference. The guys you mention are in much the same tier. That said, Wells we know has immense talent, but also someone who seems to be a lock to get a good number of carries. He has amongst the highest upside in the draft, but could have that ceiling severely limited. Charles I have no idea on, he is a don't touch for me. Don't know the deal with the coaches and T Jones has yards left in him. I dont see the upside and I see a lot of risk. Green had been a high second round guy until recently - I think LT2 will get a lot of carries which really limits upside. Addai shares carries but he is part of perhaps the most potent offense in football.In regard to Foster, his upside is nearly as high as anyone, maybe not Wells - but he has the starting job right now and is on a great offense. If, as noted, he is the goaline back, could easily be a top 10 player (though he could be a bust as well). Then again, any of these guys have some risk, that is why they are around at 3/4 in traditional leagues.A few weeks back, I took slaton and as a handcuff and as I was unsure who might pan out there, took Foster soon after... in that draft I had wells in the third. In my last draft (2QBs so rounds are skewed a bit as a lot of QBs went early), Foster lasted until the 5/6 turn and wells went late in the 6th. Had I not had Wells on another team, I may have taken him, either way I felt both were value at that point (i.e. Spiller, Best, Charles and Moreno had gone in the 5th and the turn into the 6th saw McCoy, Bradshaw and Wells go).In terms of upside my opinion is the Wells and Foster provide your best shot, some might say Best as well. I don't see anyone here as a really safe choice so its up to preference. As to the SECOND quote: If he busts, he busts, that happens. But (1) any of the other RBs taken then or soon after have a good chance for bust or have a lower ceiling than Foster and (2) I would agree third round might be early for Foster, but if the RB run is taking place, and you believe he is better than a few RBs who already are off the board, it might not be such a reach - or wait for RB scraps later and hope that a Portis or someone works out.I can't see taking him in the second and third would be tough, but once you are at the 3/4 turn he may provide value for you after all.

 

[Kiddnets]

got him at 4.1 last night and people were saying I reached - followed up with Slaton late as a cuff and I am happy with him as my flex starter!

 

[LionOfGosforth]

If Foster busts how will you guys drafting him in the 3rd round feel?

how bout the 7th?

Or 8.01? I play in a local where about half really know what they're doing. Drafted Friday and was shocked he lasted that long with guys like Forsett and Jacobs drafted well before him.

 

[Doug B]

As to the SECOND quote: If he busts, he busts, that happens. But (1) any of the other RBs taken then or soon after have a good chance for bust or have a lower ceiling than Foster and (2) I would agree third round might be early for Foster, but if the RB run is taking place, and you believe he is better than a few RBs who already are off the board, it might not be such a reach - or wait for RB scraps later and hope that a Portis or someone works out.

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Nice haul, Kiddnets. Since you drafted at the 1-2 turn, you might have started off WR-WR or QB-WR. Is Foster your RB1 or RB2?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Here's what I don't get:

Tons of love for A.Foster in this thread. TONS!

Yet when I just checked out the most recent FBG expert redraft rankings for RBs only in a PPR league, only 1 of the 10 staff members that has RB PPR rankings up in the last 7 days has him inside the top 20.

That's right. 9 of 10 have him 22nd or worse.

And 7 of 10 have him 27th or worse.

And 5 have him 31st or worse.

Is this...

(A) they don't agree with what seem to be a ton of Shark Forum Posters? And thus, the Shark Pool may be getting way ahead of itself?

OR...

(B) they just re-submit their rankings without really looking at them - ie, they like Foster, but have failed to update their rankings?

Not to beat a dead horse on this, but this question got me thinking. Two experts who have him ranked among the lowest have this still posted on their latest rankings:"The secret is starting to get out about Arian Foster, but for now he's still being lumped into a nebulous committee with rookie Ben Tate and injury returner Steve Slaton." And also still says "you can draft him for the price of a bye week fill in"

Really? He's still battling for touches with Ben Tate? Draft him for the price of a bye week fill in? And this was updated in the last 3 days? Gotta wonder how closely this expert is watching the Houston RB situation.

Another expert, who updated his rankings in the last 3 days still has this blurb from August 6th, "Looks like the best RB in this RBBC in Houston".

Both of these guys have AF ranked lower than most of the others.

Thanks for the headsup. One of the challenges of attaching comments is that you also have to make sure to keep the comments updated. I'll get our guys to do that. Thanks for pointing out the error where we'd overlooked updating the comments.J

 

[Jason Wood]

As the person who had that outdated comment , apologies. I have been updating many of them but obviously some have fallen through the cracks. Apologies.

 

[Kiddnets]

As to the SECOND quote: If he busts, he busts, that happens. But (1) any of the other RBs taken then or soon after have a good chance for bust or have a lower ceiling than Foster and (2) I would agree third round might be early for Foster, but if the RB run is taking place, and you believe he is better than a few RBs who already are off the board, it might not be such a reach - or wait for RB scraps later and hope that a Portis or someone works out.

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Nice haul, Kiddnets. Since you drafted at the 1-2 turn, you might have started off WR-WR or QB-WR. Is Foster your RB1 or RB2?

Not to turn this into a who I drafted respone but since you asked - I was in the 12 hole so did Dangelo (1.12), Peyton (2.1 6 pts for all TDs), McCoy (3.12) and then Foster (4.1) so I was lucky enough to get him as my flex (3rd RB) - I like waiting on WRs and it paid off as I got Crabtree, S Moss and Dez Bryant as WRs after. I would say this is a medium experienced league - If I didnt snag him at 4.1 he may have fallen another rd or so....people are not going crazy yet.

 

[Joe Bryant]

As the person who had that outdated comment , apologies. I have been updating many of them but obviously some have fallen through the cracks. Apologies.

Thank you, GB.J

 

[humpback]

As the person who had that outdated comment , apologies. I have been updating many of them but obviously some have fallen through the cracks. Apologies.

Thank you, GB.J

Comments, schmomments. What you should be apologizing for is having Foster so low on your rankings!