Arian Foster (1 Viewer)

[Nightly Mistake]

At some point, arguing with a donkey starts to make you look like the stupid one. I'll stop now.

 

[Concept Coop]

Page after page it goes on. No one saying he has just average, adequate, or any other mediocre descriptive when discussing how good of vision he has. Obviously I'm not the only one who has seen it. The link from an actual scouting service calls his vision "unbelievable".

Tatum Bell:"Arguably the biggest name of that bunch was Tatum Bell, ... whose speed and vision to find open holes in the defense turned the heads of Tuskers""He is not a track star, but has good vision, instincts and work ethic."" He has vision and he is a great runner"To be fair to both of us, I will concede your point. I am using another definition of vision. Maybe my understanding of the defintion as it relates to football, as the masses understand it, is off. If vision is finding the cutback in a zone blocking scheme, then Foster has better vision than I give him credit for. But obviously, you don't need to be elite at anything to have success in the scheme. Seeing as how plenty of average runningbacks have. But Foster has not shown vision, based on what I consider it to entail, when I made the statements. I have not seen him show the ability to find yards that most don't, in the open field, using his vision. The zone blocking scheme is built to give the RB two options, ideally, in most cases: follow the blockers, or cutback. The cutback is designed into the play. There is a difference between finding a hole designed to be there, and finding extra yards or room in open space.

 

[Concept Coop]

At some point, arguing with a donkey starts to make you look like the stupid one. I'll stop now.

You haven't made a single valid point. You said something silly about Emmit Smith being blind and posted an article (4 to 6 times) stating that vision is a trait ideal for the zone blocking scheme. What did you bring to the conversation? You still don't understand what the zone blocking scheme is designed to do, aside from the Google search that my posts prompted. Not only that, you said that the Texans where better than the Cowboys. The Cowboys just destroyed the Texans...last week.Who, exactly, is the donkey here?

 

[Cenobite]

I posted this in the Houston RBBC thread, but this may be a better place for it, so posting it here.The reality of the situation is that in rare circumstances, you do NOT have to be an elite, top 3 talent to PLAY like an elite, top 3 talent. Arian Foster reminds me eerily of another player who I never felt was an elite talent but played better than anyone in football over his dominant run- Priest Holmes. In certain situations, a system can HELP a player, but that system can play so perfectly into the player's wheelhouse that he takes the opportunity and runs with it to a much greater extent than anyone else could. In other words, at times, a system can ALLOW a player to play at an elite, top 3 level despite the fact that he wouldn't play at nearly the same level anywhere else. While the system may be the basis for his success, it is entirely possible that the system maximizes the player's specific skillset to the point that he is able to play at a greater level than other players that may be "more talented".To use an analogy, let's say I'm great at drawing cirles, but below average at drawing squares. If I had a job that forced me to draw both circle and squares, I would perfrom at a decent level, but would not excel. If I had a job that forced me to draw only squares, I would be below average. However, if I had a job that allowed me to draw only circles, I would become one of the elite members of the workforce, as it plays to my specific skillset. Meanwhile, another employee may in fact be BETTER at drawing then me, but not quite as good at drawing circles specifically. If I were at a job that maximized my ability to draw circles, I would in fact be capable of performing better than my co-worker...despite the fact that he is a better drawer!Sometimes, systems fit a player PERFECTLY. This was the case with Priest, as I don't think he would have faired NEARLY as well in essentially any other offense in the NFL. Some players make their own space, but don't do as well when the space is given to them. Conversely, some players can't turn nothing into something, but are superb when the holes are there for them. Not everyone is an other-wordly, transcendent talent like Adrian Peterson, Barry Sanders, etc..., who are capable of doing both. Did Priest benefit greatly from the offense, coach, etc... in place? Sure. That being said, I'm not sure any other running back in the NFL would have faired as well as Priest did in his situation, as it absolutely played right into his exact skillset. It's rare, but it does happen and I think we have the potential makings of this very thing with Foster and Houston. I began by thinking Foster was a flash in the pan who was doomed to die a painfull fantasy death at the hand of Gary Kubiak, if not this year then next. However, one play in particular yesterday changed my mind. It was a simple 3rd quarter swing pass that he caught in the left flat. He was one on one with a defender, juked, left the defender standing, showed extremely impressive burst to get the corner, turned up field, and then showed impressive vision by making a cutback. In the end, what should have been a 5 yard gain turned into 31. In my mind, that turned Foster from simply a product of the system to a player with the POTENTIAL to turn into the next Priest Holmes (note that I said POTENTIAL. There is still a long, long way to go before he gets to that point). Normal system backs don't look as good as he has looked while benefiting from the system- it HAS to go beyond just the system, at least from what my eyeball test is telling me. In dynasty, I STILL think the smart and safe move is to sell high if you can get legit top 5 talent for him, but I no longer think that it is that far fetched to believe he can maintain this into the forseeable future. Once upon of time, you could essentially have replaced Arian Foster's name with Priest Holmes and had this exact same debate. We all know how well that turned out for everyone saying to sell him...

That was very well written. I appreciate your thoughts and can see your point clearly. The analogy to Priest and other "system" backs is spot on. However, given that we are only 4 games into the season I will reserve judgment until I see more of him (I only watch highlights). I'm looking forward to the "eyeball" test.

 

[Concept Coop]

I posted this in the Houston RBBC thread, but this may be a better place for it, so posting it here.The reality of the situation is that in rare circumstances, you do NOT have to be an elite, top 3 talent to PLAY like an elite, top 3 talent. Arian Foster reminds me eerily of another player who I never felt was an elite talent but played better than anyone in football over his dominant run- Priest Holmes. In certain situations, a system can HELP a player, but that system can play so perfectly into the player's wheelhouse that he takes the opportunity and runs with it to a much greater extent than anyone else could. In other words, at times, a system can ALLOW a player to play at an elite, top 3 level despite the fact that he wouldn't play at nearly the same level anywhere else. While the system may be the basis for his success, it is entirely possible that the system maximizes the player's specific skillset to the point that he is able to play at a greater level than other players that may be "more talented".To use an analogy, let's say I'm great at drawing cirles, but below average at drawing squares. If I had a job that forced me to draw both circle and squares, I would perfrom at a decent level, but would not excel. If I had a job that forced me to draw only squares, I would be below average. However, if I had a job that allowed me to draw only circles, I would become one of the elite members of the workforce, as it plays to my specific skillset. Meanwhile, another employee may in fact be BETTER at drawing then me, but not quite as good at drawing circles specifically. If I were at a job that maximized my ability to draw circles, I would in fact be capable of performing better than my co-worker...despite the fact that he is a better drawer!Sometimes, systems fit a player PERFECTLY. This was the case with Priest, as I don't think he would have faired NEARLY as well in essentially any other offense in the NFL. Some players make their own space, but don't do as well when the space is given to them. Conversely, some players can't turn nothing into something, but are superb when the holes are there for them. Not everyone is an other-wordly, transcendent talent like Adrian Peterson, Barry Sanders, etc..., who are capable of doing both. Did Priest benefit greatly from the offense, coach, etc... in place? Sure. That being said, I'm not sure any other running back in the NFL would have faired as well as Priest did in his situation, as it absolutely played right into his exact skillset. It's rare, but it does happen and I think we have the potential makings of this very thing with Foster and Houston. I began by thinking Foster was a flash in the pan who was doomed to die a painfull fantasy death at the hand of Gary Kubiak, if not this year then next. However, one play in particular yesterday changed my mind. It was a simple 3rd quarter swing pass that he caught in the left flat. He was one on one with a defender, juked, left the defender standing, showed extremely impressive burst to get the corner, turned up field, and then showed impressive vision by making a cutback. In the end, what should have been a 5 yard gain turned into 31. In my mind, that turned Foster from simply a product of the system to a player with the POTENTIAL to turn into the next Priest Holmes (note that I said POTENTIAL. There is still a long, long way to go before he gets to that point). Normal system backs don't look as good as he has looked while benefiting from the system- it HAS to go beyond just the system, at least from what my eyeball test is telling me. In dynasty, I STILL think the smart and safe move is to sell high if you can get legit top 5 talent for him, but I no longer think that it is that far fetched to believe he can maintain this into the forseeable future. Once upon of time, you could essentially have replaced Arian Foster's name with Priest Holmes and had this exact same debate. We all know how well that turned out for everyone saying to sell him...

 

[ready5]

At some point, arguing with a donkey starts to make you look like the stupid one. I'll stop now.

never argue with idiots. they'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

 

[Concept Coop]

At some point, arguing with a donkey starts to make you look like the stupid one. I'll stop now.

never argue with idiots. they'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

I don't know if you are making a blanket statement, using an out of date saying, or insulting me personally. If it is later, care to explain?

 

[T with T]

All I know is that Foster has 111 points in ppr and he didn't play first quarter of the raider game and he is on pace for 444 points in ppr. I know this is only 4 weeks but this guy is number 1 back now and very impressive. On pace to run for 2160 yards

 

[T with T]

Foster or Pierre Thomas the rest of the way?

Foster by a landslide

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I posted this in the Houston RBBC thread, but this may be a better place for it, so posting it here.The reality of the situation is that in rare circumstances, you do NOT have to be an elite, top 3 talent to PLAY like an elite, top 3 talent. Arian Foster reminds me eerily of another player who I never felt was an elite talent but played better than anyone in football over his dominant run- Priest Holmes. In certain situations, a system can HELP a player, but that system can play so perfectly into the player's wheelhouse that he takes the opportunity and runs with it to a much greater extent than anyone else could. In other words, at times, a system can ALLOW a player to play at an elite, top 3 level despite the fact that he wouldn't play at nearly the same level anywhere else. While the system may be the basis for his success, it is entirely possible that the system maximizes the player's specific skillset to the point that he is able to play at a greater level than other players that may be "more talented".To use an analogy, let's say I'm great at drawing cirles, but below average at drawing squares. If I had a job that forced me to draw both circle and squares, I would perfrom at a decent level, but would not excel. If I had a job that forced me to draw only squares, I would be below average. However, if I had a job that allowed me to draw only circles, I would become one of the elite members of the workforce, as it plays to my specific skillset. Meanwhile, another employee may in fact be BETTER at drawing then me, but not quite as good at drawing circles specifically. If I were at a job that maximized my ability to draw circles, I would in fact be capable of performing better than my co-worker...despite the fact that he is a better drawer!Sometimes, systems fit a player PERFECTLY. This was the case with Priest, as I don't think he would have faired NEARLY as well in essentially any other offense in the NFL. Some players make their own space, but don't do as well when the space is given to them. Conversely, some players can't turn nothing into something, but are superb when the holes are there for them. Not everyone is an other-wordly, transcendent talent like Adrian Peterson, Barry Sanders, etc..., who are capable of doing both. Did Priest benefit greatly from the offense, coach, etc... in place? Sure. That being said, I'm not sure any other running back in the NFL would have faired as well as Priest did in his situation, as it absolutely played right into his exact skillset. It's rare, but it does happen and I think we have the potential makings of this very thing with Foster and Houston. I began by thinking Foster was a flash in the pan who was doomed to die a painfull fantasy death at the hand of Gary Kubiak, if not this year then next. However, one play in particular yesterday changed my mind. It was a simple 3rd quarter swing pass that he caught in the left flat. He was one on one with a defender, juked, left the defender standing, showed extremely impressive burst to get the corner, turned up field, and then showed impressive vision by making a cutback. In the end, what should have been a 5 yard gain turned into 31. In my mind, that turned Foster from simply a product of the system to a player with the POTENTIAL to turn into the next Priest Holmes (note that I said POTENTIAL. There is still a long, long way to go before he gets to that point). Normal system backs don't look as good as he has looked while benefiting from the system- it HAS to go beyond just the system, at least from what my eyeball test is telling me. In dynasty, I STILL think the smart and safe move is to sell high if you can get legit top 5 talent for him, but I no longer think that it is that far fetched to believe he can maintain this into the forseeable future. Once upon of time, you could essentially have replaced Arian Foster's name with Priest Holmes and had this exact same debate. We all know how well that turned out for everyone saying to sell him...

Jeff Tefertiller and I spoke about this very analogy this morning. We kicked around Priest Holmes as the player that Foster and or his situation reminds us of. Not all of that scenario is good but it is pretty encouraging for owners. The system is there for the taking and FOster is deatroying teams with it. You cannot play 7 and 8 in the box when you have to defend their WR/TE group and then Schaub who is also deadly. There are big holes for Foster to run through and many times he isn't getting touched until he is 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. He is also at times taking every play or almost every play on drives that end in touchdowns. Those type of results are not going to make the coach want to go away from him. Until now it has been fun to speculate, not it is starting to get serious.

 

[Hoosier16]

He is just in a special situation. Redraft gold; dynasty fool's gold.

What part of his situation do you expect will change over the next 3 years?

 

[Concept Coop]

He is just in a special situation. Redraft gold; dynasty fool's gold.

What part of his situation do you expect will change over the next 3 years?

My post in another thread, re: Foster vs. MJD in dynasty leagues:Lastly, a few examples, off the top of my head in which Foster's dynasty value is cut in half, in 12 months or less:

1. Tate is better. Foster is tearing it up, in large part due to his situation. Tate will have the same access to that situation. If he is a better player, which is not a stretch to think he could be, he could be the guy. It doesn't even have to be Tate. It could be another back brought in originally to spell Foster. Foster missed a couple games, the new guys fills in just as well, BOOM, RBBC.

2. Foster wants a big payday. The Texans know that there are a lot of RBs that can do what Foster has done, or close to it, at the very least, given the situation and limited sample size. What leverage does Foster have? Not much, if Houston thinks they can find the production elsewhere. He could be traded or could hold out.

3. Teams adjust to the Houston offensive attack. If teams have to pick their poison, they are going to start thinking about bringing an extra man into the block regularly, at some point. Foster is not on film much, but that changes a bit every week.

4. Something happens to AJ, or Schaub. Without the threat of one of the best WR/QB combos, teams will be much more inclined to concentrate on Foster. Injuries to the line as well. (I wrote this before the OAK game, so it doesn't sound valid now. But it was the Raiders)

5. He is a fluke. This is a less likely scenario, every week that Foster puts up 100 yards on 20 carries. But it is not out of the realm of possibility.

6. Fumbles.

7. He simply can't carry the load: Injuries, slowing down, or simply running out of gas. It takes a lot to be a full time RB in the NFL, for 16 weeks. Not many (even) NFL caliber specimens can do it, year after year. Foster has not proven that he can. His running style also reminds me of guys like Larry Johnson. His upright style could introduce a brick wall at age 27-28.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I can't tell if you believe any of these, but...

1. Tate is better. Foster is tearing it up, in large part due to his situation. Tate will have the same access to that situation. If he is a better player, which is not a stretch to think he could be, he could be the guy. It doesn't even have to be Tate. It could be another back brought in originally to spell Foster. Foster missed a couple games, the new guys fills in just as well, BOOM, RBBC.

And Foster could lose both his legs in a freak accident. "Could" isn't a very strong argument. If you've seen enough Tate film to say you are certain that Tate's better, then that's a different story.

2. Foster wants a big payday. The Texans know that there are a lot of RBs that can do what Foster has done, or close to it, at the very least, given the situation and limited sample size. What leverage does Foster have? Not much, if Houston thinks they can find the production elsewhere. He could be traded or could hold out.

If Foster continues to produce at any where near this pace, he'll get a big payday.

3. Teams adjust to the Houston offensive attack. If teams have to pick their poison, they are going to start thinking about bringing an extra man into the block regularly, at some point. Foster is not on film much, but that changes a bit every week.

Any team that loads the box to stop Foster will pay for it dearly. That plan won't work.

4. Something happens to AJ, or Schaub. Without the threat of one of the best WR/QB combos, teams will be much more inclined to concentrate on Foster. Injuries to the line as well. (I wrote this before the OAK game, so it doesn't sound valid now. But it was the Raiders)

If something happens to Peyton Manning, the Colts will look pretty ordinary. That tenuous grip on stability is risked by all teams with good star players.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

He is just in a special situation. Redraft gold; dynasty fool's gold.

What part of his situation do you expect will change over the next 3 years?

My post in another thread, re: Foster vs. MJD in dynasty leagues:Lastly, a few examples, off the top of my head in which Foster's dynasty value is cut in half, in 12 months or less:

1. Tate is better. Foster is tearing it up, in large part due to his situation. Tate will have the same access to that situation. If he is a better player, which is not a stretch to think he could be, he could be the guy. It doesn't even have to be Tate. It could be another back brought in originally to spell Foster. Foster missed a couple games, the new guys fills in just as well, BOOM, RBBC.

2. Foster wants a big payday. The Texans know that there are a lot of RBs that can do what Foster has done, or close to it, at the very least, given the situation and limited sample size. What leverage does Foster have? Not much, if Houston thinks they can find the production elsewhere. He could be traded or could hold out.

3. Teams adjust to the Houston offensive attack. If teams have to pick their poison, they are going to start thinking about bringing an extra man into the block regularly, at some point. Foster is not on film much, but that changes a bit every week.

4. Something happens to AJ, or Schaub. Without the threat of one of the best WR/QB combos, teams will be much more inclined to concentrate on Foster. Injuries to the line as well. (I wrote this before the OAK game, so it doesn't sound valid now. But it was the Raiders)

5. He is a fluke. This is a less likely scenario, every week that Foster puts up 100 yards on 20 carries. But it is not out of the realm of possibility.

6. Fumbles.

7. He simply can't carry the load: Injuries, slowing down, or simply running out of gas. It takes a lot to be a full time RB in the NFL, for 16 weeks. Not many (even) NFL caliber specimens can do it, year after year. Foster has not proven that he can. His running style also reminds me of guys like Larry Johnson. His upright style could introduce a brick wall at age 27-28.

None of those are likely and each of those arguments can be suggested about any RB in the league. There isn't any evidence to suggest that any of those things will happen. Using your arguments, every RB in a dynasty is fool's gold.

 

[plyka]

Any Foster haters care to chime in now?

Austin Collie Haters chime in too. LT haters, where are you guys? Everyone that didn't know that Kyle Orton would be tearing it up, you need to admit that you were wrong! And those that questioned Zack Miller and Aaron Hernandez...you should be ashamed.

Not predicting his actual production is one thing. Calling him too slow, etc., and being completely 100% wrong about his physical attributes is something else. Go back and reread the earlier comments by many people.

No need to go back and read it. Derrick Ward, who looked like an average COLLEGE runningback in Tampa, was able to do what Foster has been doing all year. Foster is not slow, quite the opposite for his size, actually - good burst too. But he lacks wiggle, is not great at breaking tackles, has average vision and balance, and runs upright. He is a good NFL running back. But there are a lot of good RBs in the NFL. He is not a special talent. He is just in a special situation. Redraft gold; dynasty fool's gold.

There are the haters!!! I was thinking your breed was dead? But it looks like some of you are still swimming around sparingly...your comments are as ridiculous as they get quite frankly. The truth is that there is no such thing as an average talent doing top 1-3 level things. Such a thing doesn't exist and won't exist. Average talent won't make you a super stud regardless of what field, no less in the NFL. People tend to make these arguments all the time. Brandon Jackson is exhibit #1. Everyone always claimed how Ryan Grant was an "average" talent in a "great" situation. Well, what about the 2nd round running back Brandon Jackson? He has been put in this great situation, and I am about to cut him as soon as Wednesday. He can't even put up sub-par numbers. His numbers are atrocious. And why isn't Steve Slaton doing anything? Surely you cannot expect anyone to believe that Slaton is anything less than an average talent? What has he produced despite having at least some opportunity in Houston? He has failed to score even a single TD, and has amassed a massive 94 yards rushing on the season. Shouldn't Slaton, another "average" back show the same type of numbers on a per-touch basis, as Foster has?

The truth is that Foster IS a special talent. He is a top 7 running back in terms of talent. That's special. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It just means your scouting ability isn't up to par.

 

[T with T]

in a 12 team ppr dynasty just gave up J. best, dez bryant and 2011 first ( should be late first 3-1) for

A.Foster and B.Marshall

 

[bulger2holt]

in a 12 team ppr dynasty just gave up J. best, dez bryant and 2011 first ( should be late first 3-1) for A.Foster and B.Marshall

Did he kiss you after you screwed him ?

 

[T with T]

no but he said pull out it hurts LOL jk... ya I think that makes my team much stronger this year and both players I got are still very young..

 

[humpback]

no but he said pull out it hurts LOL jk... ya I think that makes my team much stronger this year and both players I got are still very young..

Did you and Slaton have a falling out?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

No need to go back and read it. Derrick Ward, who looked like an average COLLEGE runningback in Tampa, was able to do what Foster has been doing all year. Foster is not slow, quite the opposite for his size, actually - good burst too. But he lacks wiggle, is not great at breaking tackles, has average vision and balance, and runs upright. He is a good NFL running back. But there are a lot of good RBs in the NFL. He is not a special talent. He is just in a special situation. Redraft gold; dynasty fool's gold.

Hi CC,I was trying to figure out why everyone was piling on you and then I saw this. You are taking 1.5 quarters of work against the Oakland Raiders who have allowed big yardage totals to several backs this season and saying he is every bit as good as Arian Foster, that's just not fair. He had a season and 2 off seasons and Tampa Bay and stunk the place up. he had a few carries in the last game and you are using that to put down Arian Foster, that seems very short sighted IMO. Tony Richardson ran for 4 Touchdowns in a game in Kansas City once, did that make Richardson as good as Priest Holmes? I agree that KC had a trmendous run punishing OL but you still need backs with vision to find holes. Why is LT succeeding in New York but Greene is struggling? I would say LT has great vision. When I watched DeAngelo last Sunday he was making cuts and running in directions where defenders were not, he has good vision. You don't break off 75 yard TD runs like FOster did last week and not have vision. I'm not ready to put Foster in as an elite back but in Dyansty right now he commands a huge ransom so while he might be fool's gold in your opinion he is worth every ounce at the moment. Just some different ways to look at it and I'm not piling on you or putting you down. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of the guy. I do agree he is in a great situation but Andre Johnson was out last week, the passing game was avg and he still blew the doors off the Oakland Coliseum. -MOP

 

[lyon812]

Something to remember is that not everyone thought that highly of Ben Tate, considering him a one-dimensional, straight line runner with good power and athleticism but little agility or vision. I think Bloom went so far as to call him "fool's gold", though please correct me if I'm wrong. A lot of the excitement about Tate was that people thought he'd easily hold off Slaton and be anointed the #1 back. Many people forgot about--or dismissed--Foster despite his nice ending in 2009.

 

[ponchsox]

Looks like more Ward when the running game is ineffective

 

[TitusIII]

Hope you sold high

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Hope you sold high

I wish I had.

 

[ThePittbully]

Hope you sold high

Yea because the Texans will never have a good game running the ball again...

 

[Vykng]

Glad I sold him and Brady for ADP and Calvin before the Moss trade and this.

Yeah I know "LOOK AT ME!?!"

 

[CowboysHomer]

Hope you sold high

LOL.

 

[thehornet]

i love foster, but i am glad i turned him into what is now miles austin.

 

[ponchsox]

Everyone has a stinker

 

[DansRams]

Hope you sold high

Took the Foster train up the hill and cashed in this week for B Marshall straight up in a Dyntasy PPR

 

[hook014]

No part of the Texan running game was working today against a ferocious Giant def.

The ride isnt over, just a bad day to be a Texan. Cest la vie.

 

[Breesisdaman]

How soon people forget the stinkers put up by other top 5 running backs. I will start foster with confidence next week./ thread

 

[ponchsox]

Foster

Texans coach Gary Kubiak revealed in his post-game press conference that Arian Foster "banged up" his knee just before halftime of Sunday's blowout loss to the Giants.

Kubiak said Foster "banged up his knee a little bit," but they're "hoping" he'll be OK. Still, this sounds like something that could threaten Foster's practice time, and potentially his playing status if the knee swells up. Foster had just one carry in the second half. The Texans' bye is in Week 7, so it's possible that they'll consider holding Foster out of Week 6 in order to give him two weeks of healing time. Stay tuned. Oct. 10 - 4:35 pm et

 

[Bluesbomber]

No part of the Texan running game was working today against a ferocious Giant def. The ride isnt over, just a bad day to be a Texan. Cest la vie.

As last week was a bad week to be a Bear. I wonder how many Forte owners had him on the bench this week. I started Foster over Bradshaw and Best in a TD heavy league. A lot of fantasy is luck and matchups. Yes it is early in Foster's career but ride him while you can is my opinion. With quality depth trades are a good way to improve your overall team. Sometimes they pay off sometimes they don't. I had Nicks in my lineup over A. Johnson. Luck yes but I watched the Giants D last week and went with Foster hoping he could punch one in. You win som you lose some. But quality depth allows you to stay in the hunt until the cream rises.

 

[Tango]

FosterTexans coach Gary Kubiak revealed in his post-game press conference that Arian Foster "banged up" his knee just before halftime of Sunday's blowout loss to the Giants.Kubiak said Foster "banged up his knee a little bit," but they're "hoping" he'll be OK. Still, this sounds like something that could threaten Foster's practice time, and potentially his playing status if the knee swells up. Foster had just one carry in the second half.

thanks for the above

The Texans' bye is in Week 7, so it's possible that they'll consider holding Foster out of Week 6 in order to give him two weeks of healing time. Stay tuned. Oct. 10 - 4:35 pm et

no thanks are in order for this speculation; of course it's possible...but butting it up against the factual information that preceded it makes it sound like Kubes may have mentioned it as a possibility. Apparently, he made no such statement or insinuation.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

How soon people forget the stinkers put up by other top 5 running backs. I will start foster with confidence next week./ thread

+1I'm sure you all were selling Peterson after that 11-14 performance a little while ago.I have the feeling it will like this all season. On big days, crickets and excuses galore. On the few bad days like this, millions of "I told you so's".

 

[thehornet]

How soon people forget the stinkers put up by other top 5 running backs. I will start foster with confidence next week./ thread

+1I'm sure you all were selling Peterson after that 11-14 performance a little while ago.I have the feeling it will like this all season. On big days, crickets and excuses galore. On the few bad days like this, millions of "I told you so's".

again, i like foster, but a down game by peterson is much less of a concern than foster. you know it too.

 

[CowboysHomer]

How soon people forget the stinkers put up by other top 5 running backs. I will start foster with confidence next week./ thread

+1I'm sure you all were selling Peterson after that 11-14 performance a little while ago.I have the feeling it will like this all season. On big days, crickets and excuses galore. On the few bad days like this, millions of "I told you so's".

again, i like foster, but a down game by peterson is much less of a concern than foster. you know it too.

Foster came into the weekend as the NFL's leading rusher. He ran for 183 yards in three quarters last week. One bad outing today when the NY defense was in the Houston backfield all day is hardly reason to hit the panic button.

 

[thehornet]

How soon people forget the stinkers put up by other top 5 running backs. I will start foster with confidence next week./ thread

+1I'm sure you all were selling Peterson after that 11-14 performance a little while ago.I have the feeling it will like this all season. On big days, crickets and excuses galore. On the few bad days like this, millions of "I told you so's".

again, i like foster, but a down game by peterson is much less of a concern than foster. you know it too.

Foster came into the weekend as the NFL's leading rusher. He ran for 183 yards in three quarters last week. One bad outing today when the NY defense was in the Houston backfield all day is hardly reason to hit the panic button.

i agree. He had one bad game. He should have a fine season, but I am not sure he is is talented enough to be considered this year's Ray Rice. just my 2 cents.

 

[Tango]

# "...I loosened it up and I’m alright.” Foster got the ball 3 times on the Texans' final series of the game 5 minutes ago via web

# Arian Foster says he's s fine- “I think it was just like a muscle I had in my leg that kind of made my knee feel like it was hurting..."

http://twitter.com/NickScurfield

 

[CaptainHook]

LOL @ all the people suddenly claiming they perfectly timed their sale

 

[Judge Smails]

The entire Texan team got manhandled today. Foster had no chance..

 

[Go deep]

The entire Texan time got manhandled today. Foster had no chance..

This.Foster isnt a highly skilled runner. If the Texans offense isnt clicking, he is not going to do well. He isnt the the kind of RB who can set the pace for the offense. With that said, he is a top 10 redraft RB as long as he is starting for this Texans offense, and will put up some more big games this season.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

The entire Texan time got manhandled today. Foster had no chance..

This.Foster isnt a highly skilled runner. If the Texans offense isnt clicking, he is not going to do well. He isnt the the kind of RB who can set the pace for the offense. With that said, he is a top 10 redraft RB as long as he is starting for this Texans offense, and will put up some more big games this season.

Pretty good summation for a "Go Deep" post :X

 

[netnalp]

Foster was Australian for "sucked" today :(

 

[Major]

Foster is a good downfield blocker....time to buy low...killa shawks on da swarm

 

[Grady Wilson]

Foster is a good downfield blocker....time to buy low...killa shawks on da swarm

LOL. I'm assuming this HAS to be a sarcastic post. Sorry dude, but Foster and buy low aren't in the same category right now.

 

[Tango]

# "...I loosened it up and I’m alright.” Foster got the ball 3 times on the Texans' final series of the game 5 minutes ago via web

# Arian Foster says he's s fine- “I think it was just like a muscle I had in my leg that kind of made my knee feel like it was hurting..."

http://twitter.com/NickScurfield

Per GK presser, all tests ok. Then GK said Foster ran in full with the team today and besides a little soreness he's fine.

 

[Judge Smails]

Gut check time for Texans. Got linked by G-men and the hitting won't get easier vs the Redskins

 

[Lobary]

WHERE ARE THE NAYSAYERS NOW?

Arian Foster continues to produce and leads my leagues in RB scoring. He's averaging 5.5 yds per carry and 105 yds per game and he leads the NFL in rushing and yards from scrimmage. He's tied with Antonio Gates for the most Rush/Rec TDs with seven. I think it's safe to say Cowboy fan was dead wrong.