Tired Hands is a great brewery, and that series of beers is supposed to be really good. Drink it. The floaties are probably yeast which isn't uncommon at all in a ton of beer styles.
INI'd try it if sent to me but I'm not paying over $5 for beer to bring home unless I've had it and it gave me a mouth orgasm.
yeast doesn't form visible clumps. When yeast clumps, it floccuates and settles out. floating clumps is something else - no idea what that could be.Tired Hands is a great brewery, and that series of beers is supposed to be really good. Drink it. The floaties are probably yeast which isn't uncommon at all in a ton of beer styles. $22 / 4 pack is pretty harsh, though, so I probably wouldn't be waiting in line to stock up.
If this were a brewery with a less stellar reputation than Tired Hands, I'd tend to agree that it might be use of flour or another adjunct to recreate the "haze" present in Trillium, Tree House, and other hugely popular NE-style IPAs. There has been quite a bit of discussion on what exactly causes the haze in these styles -- and no one seems to know for sure. I know that Trillium uses some flaked wheat in their malt -- which can create a protein haze. Also, as you mentioned, a non-flocculating yeast can do this. People have also called it a "hop matrix" -- ie hop particulate caused by the huge dry-hopping that takes place.yeast doesn't form visible clumps. When yeast clumps, it floccuates and settles out. floating clumps is something else - no idea what that could be.
This is what it should look like.
From what I've been reading, everyone is trying to copy Heady Toppers NE IPA, which is cloudy. As I understand, Heady Topper is cloudy because they use a poorly flocculating yeast, keep the minerals down that promote flocculation, and dump in a ton of hops before the yeast flocs out (which inhibits flocculation). This is all done to make the yeast interact with the hops, which brings out a "juicy" characteristic, especially with "tropical" hops.
I speculate that what is going on here is this brewery is adding flour or some other crap to promote cloudiness, and completely missing out on why it should be cloudy in the first place. What ever they are doing has stability/QC issues.
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Not really - Ardmore.Is that local, GB?
sharkmigo would be about a shark that is super cool and who has a totally boss ride like maybe a javelin or a roadrunner and when he drives by hes got shades on and one fin hanging out the window and the other around one hot momasita next to him and you know damned well you can hear looking glass brandy cranking on the 8 tracker in that baby take that to the sharkmigo bank bromigosinstead of a -nado craze like in that shark movie you could start a -migo craze I think you shold start with twerkmigo take that to the credit union cause you have cornered the market on banks
Eh, that's kind of up to the brewer, isn't it? You may not like what they are doing, and that is fine, but they're going for a certain flavor / mouthfeel profile and likely brewing to hit those marks. Tired Hands isn't some unknown brewery that needs to cut corners to save money -- they have a really good national reputation and have people lining up to get their beer every time they release something.Not really - Ardmore.
P.S. there was an actual chunk of something in the can, I suspect it to be peach... how that got through the canning line is a mystery. And I don't care what anyone says, Tired Hands do not let their beers finish fermenting before they serve them - part of their "cloudiness" is because the beers are not finished.
and the exploding growlers!Eh, that's kind of up to the brewer, isn't it?
well, I've never seen clumps of yeast looking like this. Yeast in the bottom of a bottle-conditioned beer looks more dusty - it looks like a higher density fluid, kind of flowing around. If you give it an aggressive pour, it will just cloudy up the beer more uniformly, not make discrete, floating clumps.If this were a brewery with a less stellar reputation than Tired Hands, I'd tend to agree that it might be use of flour or another adjunct to recreate the "haze" present in Trillium, Tree House, and other hugely popular NE-style IPAs. There has been quite a bit of discussion on what exactly causes the haze in these styles -- and no one seems to know for sure. I know that Trillium uses some flaked wheat in their malt -- which can create a protein haze. Also, as you mentioned, a non-flocculating yeast can do this. People have also called it a "hop matrix" -- ie hop particulate caused by the huge dry-hopping that takes place.
All that said, clumps of yeast floating around in beer absolutely does happen. Swirl a bottle conditioned Belgium of any kind around a bit before pouring it and report back -- although given enough time to rest it will settle back onto the bottom of the glass again. I suspect that that is what is going on here. Given that it is Tired Hands, there is no way that that is flour or something else that doesn't belong in beer. Those guys know what they are doing and don't need to recreate a trendy style by cutting corners.
maybe they are fruiting their NE IPA to add "juiciness"?Not really - Ardmore.
P.S. there was an actual chunk of something in the can, I suspect it to be peach... how that got through the canning line is a mystery. And I don't care what anyone says, Tired Hands do not let their beers finish fermenting before they serve them - part of their "cloudiness" is because the beers are not finished.
This is the only relevant question, I think. If that's how it's supposed to look, I'd try it. If it isn't, I wouldn't.Is that not how it's supposed to look?
Oh, Ardmore.Not really - Ardmore.
P.S. there was an actual chunk of something in the can, I suspect it to be peach... how that got through the canning line is a mystery. And I don't care what anyone says, Tired Hands do not let their beers finish fermenting before they serve them - part of their "cloudiness" is because the beers are not finished.
I like sharkmigo already.sharkmigo would be about a shark that is super cool and who has a totally boss ride like maybe a javelin or a roadrunner and when he drives by hes got shades on and one fin hanging out the window and the other around one hot momasita next to him and you know damned well you can hear looking glass brandy cranking on the 8 tracker in that baby take that to the sharkmigo bank bromigos
On the Main Line - Montgomery Country, west of Philadelphia and east of Villanova.Oh, Ardmore.
Where the hell is Ardmore?
Good info here. Thanks!On the Main Line - Montgomery Country, west of Philadelphia and east of Villanova.
ETA: there is an Amtrak stop in Ardmore in case you want to get all banged up at Tired Hands and not drive home.
Well, I'm not hugely familiar with them -- I've had their beer a few times and it was good, but they're not local to me. Mainly going off of their reputation on BeerAdvocate and RateBeer, which is very good. They make sought after and traded for beers and are well known to be very good at what they do. I agree that clumpy floaties aren't a typical thing to see, but I have seen it before and IMO it doesn't necessarily mean anything is "wrong."well, I've never seen clumps of yeast looking like this. Yeast in the bottom of a bottle-conditioned beer looks more dusty - it looks like a higher density fluid, kind of flowing around. If you give it an aggressive pour, it will just cloudy up the beer more uniformly, not make discrete, floating clumps.
I don't know the brewery so if you say there is no flour, so be it. That being said, even good breweries can make mistakes and can have QA issues. something clearly isn't right here. I don't know what it could be.