Ben Roethlisberger (1 Viewer)

[-OZ-]

I don't think I'd even target him as a buy low guy in dynasty leagues unless he strings together 2-3 good games.

He wouldn't be a buy low then.I offered Jake Plummer in a keeper league for him. Seems about right to me.

 

[Sabertooth]

Ben started believing the hype about "BIG BEN" and then got a Super Bowl handed to him on a silver platter.

Now that he's being asked to do more, he is doing less. I honestly think his hubris is his biggest weakness right now. He needs to get his comeuppance and then he'll be fine.

This is going to be a long year for Ben.

 

[perry147]

sorry for the :honda:

From my other post:

Another game, another loss, more bad decisions, more bad throws, & holding the ball too long. He's hesitating and he looks lost at times. Tough summer turning into a tougher fall.

Ben's poor play is affecting the whole team. Defense played with spirit the first half, but no scoring, 3 n outs, & worse, turnovers took the wind right out of their sails.

I like him as much as any other Steelers fan, but one more loss & Cowher better make the tough call & start considering Batch.

I have been seeing the same things you have; Big Ben has look very bad and I do not know what it is that has him performing so bad. BUT do you really think Cowher would bench him? Cowher stuck with slash for years and I think he will stick with Ben.

He'll stick with him, but I think the offensive playcalling needs to adjust more to Ben's needs now. Less long bombs and more quick short passes. More end runs. More passes to the backs. Bring back the reverses. More no huddles and shotgun starts. They've got slash type players - set-up a couple of trick plays around them.

They could bring in Batch for a series or two, just to change it up a bit.

Cowher needs to get more creative, more aggressive, and yet high percentage. RIGHT NOW.

Totally agree.

 

[TheRingLeader$]

Doubt he gets pulled. He's the franchise. You don't pull the franchise.I've heard some speculation that he might be suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. That seems unlikely, but it is possible that his brush with death has triggered some wicked anxiety. It's important for a QB to be cool and confident. Roethlisberger used to play with those qualities, but judging by his results this season, he's playing scared and panicking. That could very well be the result of a lingering psychological issue.

if you have ever been in a serious car accident (vehicle was a total lost) then you know what affect that it has on you weeks after. i would cringe everytime that i stopped at a red light and saw a car pulling up behind me. i would be wondering of the car was gonna stop, after i was hit by a drunk driver doing 60 ran into the back of me while i was stopped and about to make a turn.remember that this is the same man who said that he still felt groggy during the first monday night pre-season game.he used to stand in the pocket and take hits or make throws with players all over him or elude pressure for scrambles and completions. his mental state combined with the weight loss and two surgeries in the last few weeks is definately not a good thing.

So start Batch. Would you rather succeed with Batch or fail with Ben?

i thought QBs in pittsburg were interchangeable...

isn't tommy maddox sitting @ home????

 

[gocats]

Here's a thought. Was Big Ben really ever that good. He was in a perfect "don't do anything to lose the game" scenario as a rookie and second year QB. All he had to do was play conservative and avoid turnovers. He did a good job at that. Pittsburg won a lot of close games in building an impressive W-L record over that time. Right now Pittsburg is on the other end of these close games which magnifies Rothlisberger's mistakes. People are starting to question him. I don't think Ben is as bad as his QB rating has been for the last 4 games or as good as people thought when Pittsburg was winning. He's probably somewhere in-between.

Worthlesberger just isnt a very good QB

 

[nightshift]

For all you 30 something, bungles trailer hillbillies with a 6th grade education, now usin' a public access Internet computer to log on to FBG:

P-I-T-T-S-B-U-R-G-H

We know most of the Steelers haters are dumber than a box of rocks, but please don't keep proving it.

 

[perry147]

For all you 30 something, bungles trailer hillbillies with a 6th grade education, now usin' a public access Internet computer to log on to FBG:

P-I-T-T-S-B-U-R-G-H

We know most of the Steelers haters are dumber than a box of rocks, but please don't keep proving it.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Here's a thought. Was Big Ben really ever that good. He was in a perfect "don't do anything to lose the game" scenario as a rookie and second year QB. All he had to do was play conservative and avoid turnovers. He did a good job at that. Pittsburg won a lot of close games in building an impressive W-L record over that time.

Right now Pittsburg is on the other end of these close games which magnifies Rothlisberger's mistakes. People are starting to question him. I don't think Ben is as bad as his QB rating has been for the last 4 games or as good as people thought when Pittsburg was winning. He's probably somewhere in-between.

Worthlesberger just isnt a very good QB

If you'd have watched the Steelers for the past 2 years, it was much more true in his rookie season than last year. You might think that from looking at his numbers sometimes, but Ben made plays. Plain and simple, he made great plays every week, a lot of times while on the run or moving the pocket around, that kept drives moving and resulted in points. What people saw him do in the playoffs against the Bengals, Colts, and Broncos is something that those of us who watched him regularly KNEW he was capable of doing if he needed to.

Can't tell what happened to him before the Super Bowl last year, and I don't know how close to 100% recovered he is from the accident or appendectomy. I DO know he doesn't look nearly as comfortable when the pocket breaks down and he's not making those types of plays this year.

He's not looking sharp this year, and there are lots of potential reasons for it, but that doesn't diminish how well he played the past two years. There's not a young QB in the game aside from maybe Palmer who I think is a better NFL QB at his best.

 

[Tau837]

There's not a young QB in the game aside from maybe Palmer who I think is a better NFL QB at his best.

Personally, I think Rivers is already better, though obviously he has had far less opportunity to prove it. I'm sure most will quickly disagree, and he definitely still has a lot to prove to justify that statement. But it's like someone else said earlier, watching Rivers last night there were several times when I was impressed with his throws and decisions. Even in the past two successful years for the Steelers, that was rare with Roethlisberger (for me).

 

[Kleck.]

3 games, 0 TDs, 7 INTs. On pace for 35 INTs in 15 games. :XThe sample is small, and he has had to fight through a lot already, but his performance this year is awful. Instead of benching him, I think it's best to have him work his way through and out of it, but at what point is too much?

Through 7 games, 7 TDs, 14 INTs.I think he's looking much better, but now he's in the "2005 Favre" style of play. Some INTs are his fault, some are just bad luck, and some are from just trying to make something happen even if/when the team may be out of it.Favre took a bashing last year for his INTs, but like Favre I have to give Roethisberger credit for not taking the easy way out and continuing to throw the ball even when the game may be out of hand or over. 400+ yards against Denver is impressive.

 

[jonessed]

Here's a thought. Was Big Ben really ever that good. He was in a perfect "don't do anything to lose the game" scenario as a rookie and second year QB. All he had to do was play conservative and avoid turnovers. He did a good job at that. Pittsburg won a lot of close games in building an impressive W-L record over that time.

Right now Pittsburg is on the other end of these close games which magnifies Rothlisberger's mistakes. People are starting to question him. I don't think Ben is as bad as his QB rating has been for the last 4 games or as good as people thought when Pittsburg was winning. He's probably somewhere in-between.

Worthlesberger just isnt a very good QB

If you'd have watched the Steelers for the past 2 years, it was much more true in his rookie season than last year. You might think that from looking at his numbers sometimes, but Ben made plays. Plain and simple, he made great plays every week, a lot of times while on the run or moving the pocket around, that kept drives moving and resulted in points. What people saw him do in the playoffs against the Bengals, Colts, and Broncos is something that those of us who watched him regularly KNEW he was capable of doing if he needed to.

Can't tell what happened to him before the Super Bowl last year, and I don't know how close to 100% recovered he is from the accident or appendectomy. I DO know he doesn't look nearly as comfortable when the pocket breaks down and he's not making those types of plays this year.

He's not looking sharp this year, and there are lots of potential reasons for it, but that doesn't diminish how well he played the past two years. There's not a young QB in the game aside from maybe Palmer who I think is a better NFL QB at his best.

And there isn't anyone worse when he's at his worst. He's like an over-the-hill Brett Farve clone.

 

[EBF]

Here's a thought. Was Big Ben really ever that good. He was in a perfect "don't do anything to lose the game" scenario as a rookie and second year QB. All he had to do was play conservative and avoid turnovers. He did a good job at that. Pittsburg won a lot of close games in building an impressive W-L record over that time.

Right now Pittsburg is on the other end of these close games which magnifies Rothlisberger's mistakes. People are starting to question him. I don't think Ben is as bad as his QB rating has been for the last 4 games or as good as people thought when Pittsburg was winning. He's probably somewhere in-between.

Worthlesberger just isnt a very good QB

If you'd have watched the Steelers for the past 2 years, it was much more true in his rookie season than last year. You might think that from looking at his numbers sometimes, but Ben made plays. Plain and simple, he made great plays every week, a lot of times while on the run or moving the pocket around, that kept drives moving and resulted in points. What people saw him do in the playoffs against the Bengals, Colts, and Broncos is something that those of us who watched him regularly KNEW he was capable of doing if he needed to.

Can't tell what happened to him before the Super Bowl last year, and I don't know how close to 100% recovered he is from the accident or appendectomy. I DO know he doesn't look nearly as comfortable when the pocket breaks down and he's not making those types of plays this year.

He's not looking sharp this year, and there are lots of potential reasons for it, but that doesn't diminish how well he played the past two years. There's not a young QB in the game aside from maybe Palmer who I think is a better NFL QB at his best.

And there isn't anyone worse when he's at his worst. He's like an over-the-hill Brett Farve clone.

When you ignore the INTs, his numbers have been excellent lately. The turnovers have been killing the Steelers, but it's not like Roethlisberger has had trouble moving them down the field. I suspect that his yards/attempt is creeping up towards the league leaders.

 

[monkeysee]

One hit wonder.

 

[nightshift]

Here's a thought. Was Big Ben really ever that good. He was in a perfect "don't do anything to lose the game" scenario as a rookie and second year QB. All he had to do was play conservative and avoid turnovers. He did a good job at that. Pittsburg won a lot of close games in building an impressive W-L record over that time.

Right now Pittsburg is on the other end of these close games which magnifies Rothlisberger's mistakes. People are starting to question him. I don't think Ben is as bad as his QB rating has been for the last 4 games or as good as people thought when Pittsburg was winning. He's probably somewhere in-between.

Worthlesberger just isnt a very good QB

If you'd have watched the Steelers for the past 2 years, it was much more true in his rookie season than last year. You might think that from looking at his numbers sometimes, but Ben made plays. Plain and simple, he made great plays every week, a lot of times while on the run or moving the pocket around, that kept drives moving and resulted in points. What people saw him do in the playoffs against the Bengals, Colts, and Broncos is something that those of us who watched him regularly KNEW he was capable of doing if he needed to.

Can't tell what happened to him before the Super Bowl last year, and I don't know how close to 100% recovered he is from the accident or appendectomy. I DO know he doesn't look nearly as comfortable when the pocket breaks down and he's not making those types of plays this year.

He's not looking sharp this year, and there are lots of potential reasons for it, but that doesn't diminish how well he played the past two years. There's not a young QB in the game aside from maybe Palmer who I think is a better NFL QB at his best.

And there isn't anyone worse when he's at his worst. He's like an over-the-hill Brett Farve clone.

When you ignore the INTs, his numbers have been excellent lately. The turnovers have been killing the Steelers, but it's not like Roethlisberger has had trouble moving them down the field. I suspect that his yards/attempt is creeping up towards the league leaders.

The only reason his attempts & yards are so high is becuase the Steelers are playin' from behind. Not by design, but out of necessity.

 

[EBF]

Here's a thought. Was Big Ben really ever that good. He was in a perfect "don't do anything to lose the game" scenario as a rookie and second year QB. All he had to do was play conservative and avoid turnovers. He did a good job at that. Pittsburg won a lot of close games in building an impressive W-L record over that time.

Right now Pittsburg is on the other end of these close games which magnifies Rothlisberger's mistakes. People are starting to question him. I don't think Ben is as bad as his QB rating has been for the last 4 games or as good as people thought when Pittsburg was winning. He's probably somewhere in-between.

Worthlesberger just isnt a very good QB

If you'd have watched the Steelers for the past 2 years, it was much more true in his rookie season than last year. You might think that from looking at his numbers sometimes, but Ben made plays. Plain and simple, he made great plays every week, a lot of times while on the run or moving the pocket around, that kept drives moving and resulted in points. What people saw him do in the playoffs against the Bengals, Colts, and Broncos is something that those of us who watched him regularly KNEW he was capable of doing if he needed to.

Can't tell what happened to him before the Super Bowl last year, and I don't know how close to 100% recovered he is from the accident or appendectomy. I DO know he doesn't look nearly as comfortable when the pocket breaks down and he's not making those types of plays this year.

He's not looking sharp this year, and there are lots of potential reasons for it, but that doesn't diminish how well he played the past two years. There's not a young QB in the game aside from maybe Palmer who I think is a better NFL QB at his best.

And there isn't anyone worse when he's at his worst. He's like an over-the-hill Brett Farve clone.

When you ignore the INTs, his numbers have been excellent lately. The turnovers have been killing the Steelers, but it's not like Roethlisberger has had trouble moving them down the field. I suspect that his yards/attempt is creeping up towards the league leaders.

The only reason his attempts & yards are so high is becuase the Steelers are playin' from behind. Not by design, but out of necessity.

His yards/attempt has been high every season of his career. It doesn't seem to matter much whether the team is ahead or behind.