Bengals Arrest? (1 Viewer)

[msommer]

So, this is still a rumour and we do not have the players name?

:snore:

 

[redman]

What's even funnier is this:

1991 3 13 0 4th AFC Central --1992 5 11 0 4th AFC Central --1993 3 13 0 4th AFC Central --1994 3 13 0 3rd AFC Central --1995 7 9 0 2nd AFC Central --1996 8 8 0 3rd AFC Central --1997 7 9 0 4th AFC Central --1998 3 13 0 5th AFC Central --1999 4 12 0 5th AFC Central --2000 4 12 0 5th AFC Central --2001 6 10 0 6th AFC Central --2002 2 14 0 4th AFC North --2003 8 8 0 2nd AFC North --2004 8 8 0 3rd AFC North --2005 11 5 0 1st AFC North Lost Wild Card Playoffs (Steelers) 31-172006 8 8 0 2nd AFC North

Do people realize just how bad this franchise has been over the last 15+ years?

So now we're back to records of teams since 1992 instead of idividuals the last few months? Well I guess if you don't feel things are going the way you want then just change the subject to something else. Rich.

Wow, time.

 

[Family Matters]

What's even funnier is this:

1991 3 13 0 4th AFC Central --1992 5 11 0 4th AFC Central --1993 3 13 0 4th AFC Central --1994 3 13 0 3rd AFC Central --1995 7 9 0 2nd AFC Central --1996 8 8 0 3rd AFC Central --1997 7 9 0 4th AFC Central --1998 3 13 0 5th AFC Central --1999 4 12 0 5th AFC Central --2000 4 12 0 5th AFC Central --2001 6 10 0 6th AFC Central --2002 2 14 0 4th AFC North --2003 8 8 0 2nd AFC North --2004 8 8 0 3rd AFC North --2005 11 5 0 1st AFC North Lost Wild Card Playoffs (Steelers) 31-172006 8 8 0 2nd AFC North

Do people realize just how bad this franchise has been over the last 15+ years?

So now we're back to records of teams since 1992 instead of idividuals the last few months? Well I guess if you don't feel things are going the way you want then just change the subject to something else. Rich.

Wow, time.

You're right. It's just stoopid now. Enough about nothing. Time to move on.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

As they have improved since last year, the Steelers have gotten worse.

How many arrests have the Steelers had?

According to PFT's Turd watch:Steelers=24

Bengals=22

21 of those points come from one player who isn't on the roster anymore, and wasn't likely to make the team anyway. I love how Bengal fans love to point to this "turd watch" and claim the Steelers are anywhere near the same zip code with the Bengals convict crew.

Instead of going by some websites nebulous interpretation of this, get down to plain facts:

List the current members of both teams who have either been convicted or plead guilty of any charges brought against them.

I'll wait for your list.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Latest post on PFT makes it sound like they are begrudgingly admitting its a load of crap.

What a surprise.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Latest post on PFT makes it sound like they are begrudgingly admitting its a load of crap.

What a surprise.

I'd say I'm sorry to hijack but this thread is already a mess. What was your username before you were "made" ?

 

[fatness]

So is this the third consecutive "Chris Henry is in Trouble Again!!!! ---- Oops, guess not" story?

failed drug test he didn't fail --- check

Kid he assaulted he didn't assault --- check

marijuana arrest where he wasn't arrested --- ?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Latest post on PFT makes it sound like they are begrudgingly admitting its a load of crap.

What a surprise.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Latest post on PFT makes it sound like they are begrudgingly admitting its a load of crap.

What a surprise.

I'd say I'm sorry to hijack but this thread is already a mess. What was your username before you were "made" ?

lions327

 

[SSOG]

Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :(

Name one.

And you can insert the name of numerous other coaches and owners from small market teams that fit that same description. The Bengals are hardly uniques in that regard. It's hardly a basis for firing a coach that has made momumental strides with this team.

I'll say this again, players are responsible for their own actions. Plain and simple. Quit blaming the coach for what grown men do off the field. They are not baby sitters.

Now if you really want to play the blame game then why would the NFL allow these players the right to be drafted or acquired in the first place? If the comish and owners are so serious about who they associate with then why not weed them out in the first place? They have the resources to do it but yet they contunually allow these guys back in.

Besides, we all know the truth about the Bengal bashing. FBG's is loaded with Steeler fans and that what drives these threads. So far there have been 19 posts by 6 known Steeler fans about nothing. We have no information at this time and yet a thread is started about something that "might" have happened and 6 Steeler fans want to come in here and bash the Bengals. Gotta love that.

I'm a Broncos fan, so am I qualified to weigh in on this discussion?Marvin Lewis is one hell of a coach, and we shouldn't lose sight of that, but to deny that he bears at least some of the responsibility for this recent rash of arrests is to live with your head in the sand. When he came in, he was talking about nothing as much as how he wanted to build a high-character franchise, and yet every single move he has made has done nothing but undermine that claim. He's one of the better coaches in the league, but he most certainly made this bed that he's been sleeping in recently.

With that said, I'd rather my team be low-character and a competitor than high-character and a laughingstock, so in that regard, the Bengals have indeed been making great strides under Lewis. I don't mean this as a potshot- I'd be very happy with Lewis as my head coach. Not as happy as with Belichick, Reid, Dungy, Shanahan, Cowher, or any of the other proven elite coaches, but very happy nonetheless.

 

[Bri]

Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads? :(

Why do we have so much interest in car wrecks, bridge collapses or other disasters? It's interesting - and MORE interesting to watch a team that's already been through the wringer and hasn't learned to go through it some more. Lewis must go.You don't see this stuff happening over and over and over again in any other organization within such a short time frame.

Lewis? You can't possibly think this is Lewis fault? That's ridiculous. Lewis has absolutely nothing to do with Henry's off field issues. Pleas stop excusing Henry's actions by removing his accountability and placing it on someone that has noting to say about it. Henry shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO but the NFL isn't doing anything about that so far. DSuspensions are useless with this guy.

Henry being in NFL I suppose is debatable. Lewis has accepted some blame himself, FM, so your kinda outta sorts here. What exactly I don't recall. I don't wanna misquote him but feel free to google it. Something along the lines of creating a laid back atmosphere and thinking he can turn too many kids around. It stands out to me because he also brought up 4 or 5 players that I had no idea were arrested in college or HS and have been model citizens for the Bengals. Anyhow, probably worth a few minutes to google that

 

[the UFFRM]

Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads?

Why do we have so much interest in car wrecks, bridge collapses or other disasters? It's interesting - and MORE interesting to watch a team that's already been through the wringer and hasn't learned to go through it some more. Lewis must go.You don't see this stuff happening over and over and over again in any other organization within such a short time frame.

Lewis? You can't possibly think this is Lewis fault? That's ridiculous. Lewis has absolutely nothing to do with Henry's off field issues. Pleas stop excusing Henry's actions by removing his accountability and placing it on someone that has noting to say about it. Henry shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO but the NFL isn't doing anything about that so far. DSuspensions are useless with this guy.

It was not Lewis' fault by any means. Henry is to blame for his repeated dastardly mistakes and refusal to change his behavioral patterns. The real donkey to pin is Mike Brown though. Year after year he wants to take chances on younger players who are extremely talented but fall in the draft due to their questionable character or lousy decision making skills. Mike Brown is notoriously cheap as an owner; always has been; and always will be. For years and years the Bengals were a laughing stock because their cheap owner refused to upgrade the stadium and team facilities for a very long time after it was obviously necessary. Top NFL free agents would pass on signing due to this in addition to the fact that they would never overpay to send the message that they were commited to buliding a winner. The stadium deal with the city of Cincinatti was contentious and unresolved for quite some time. So back to my point, Mike Brown gets the tiniest scouting department in the league to select players who are bad apples slipping in the draft so he can sign them to cheaper deals and get more bang for his cheap-### buck. It wasn't until Marvin Lewis signed his first contract that things slowly began to change. It is Lewis who is responsible for the Bengals' recent upswing completely in spite of Brown.

 

[Family Matters]

Can we at least get some facts before rushing to judgement? Besides, why is it only when a Bengals player has a run in that a thread is started? There have been several other teams this year that have had as much or more problems than the Bengals. Where are those threads?

Why do we have so much interest in car wrecks, bridge collapses or other disasters? It's interesting - and MORE interesting to watch a team that's already been through the wringer and hasn't learned to go through it some more. Lewis must go.You don't see this stuff happening over and over and over again in any other organization within such a short time frame.

Lewis? You can't possibly think this is Lewis fault? That's ridiculous. Lewis has absolutely nothing to do with Henry's off field issues. Pleas stop excusing Henry's actions by removing his accountability and placing it on someone that has noting to say about it. Henry shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO but the NFL isn't doing anything about that so far. DSuspensions are useless with this guy.

It was not Lewis' fault by any means. Henry is to blame for his repeated dastardly mistakes and refusal to change his behavioral patterns. The real donkey to pin is Mike Brown though. Year after year he wants to take chances on younger players who are extremely talented but fall in the draft due to their questionable character or lousy decision making skills. Mike Brown is notoriously cheap as an owner; always has been; and always will be. For years and years the Bengals were a laughing stock because their cheap owner refused to upgrade the stadium and team facilities for a very long time after it was obviously necessary. Top NFL free agents would pass on signing due to this in addition to the fact that they would never overpay to send the message that they were commited to buliding a winner. The stadium deal with the city of Cincinatti was contentious and unresolved for quite some time. So back to my point, Mike Brown gets the tiniest scouting department in the league to select players who are bad apples slipping in the draft so he can sign them to cheaper deals and get more bang for his cheap-### buck. It wasn't until Marvin Lewis signed his first contract that things slowly began to change. It is Lewis who is responsible for the Bengals' recent upswing completely in spite of Brown.

For those of that have been suffering, we're thrilled with the job Lewis has done on the field. You make great points in demonstrating why Lewis has take some chances. Brown is putting him in a no-win situation. Go for character guys that can't play? Well that doesn't work too well and we've proven that. Take some risks with guys that play but have fallen due to character but can be afforded by the Bengals? Well it's better than what we had.Sadly the gambles backfired in some cases. There are some good stories but a lot of people in this thread don't want to hear that. They're goal is to bash Bengals. Most of them happen to be Steeler fans so you can figure it from there.

You can see from this thread that was started based no information, just a false rumor, and yet they chose to bash the Bengals and Lewis regardless of the false rumor.

All I can say is Go Bengals!