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Bitcoin-Explain to me how to buy these things (1 Viewer)

Any benefit to ETH vs just going Bit.
Same as any investment portfolio, you want to diversify, IMO.

I think BTC is a solid long-term play. Some people (big investors for big companies, not NRJs on the internet lol) have predicted BTC to hit $1MM by 2030 or so. IDK about that, but If you look at the cycle ( Bear >> roughly 4 years >> Bull) and the BTC halving events, the price has risen mightily each time after that. Next one is predicted to be early 2024.

99% of coins rise and fall by BTC's tide currently, and I think that will continue for the foreseeable future. With that in mind, there are plenty of other projects that have a much larger growth potential between now and the next bull market (~2025).

ETH is a no-brainer. It's the largest blockchain with the most projects built on it. Then you have other projects that are helpers for the Etherium blockchain that make it run faster and more efficiently or add other functionality.

Several others like XRP for example are already in use in projects by banks and other huge companies as they develop ways to convert their existing operations over to blockchain technology.

There will be some winners and some losers of course but that goes back to the diversification aspect. Find a handful of good projects with big backers. Take your investment and divide it up how you see fit into those. (maybe something like 25% BTC, 15% ETH, 10% each on several of the other projects, a couple of % on a couple of fliers like SHIB or DOGE. I laughed at those before I saw some of the breakdown. Yes they are meme coins ( :poop: coins if you will) but they have staying power (thanks Reddit!) and perhaps most importantly, they are CHEAP and AVAILABLE on all the major exchanges and apps. So when grandma decides she needs to get some of that cryptocurrency she's seeing on the news, she doesn't want to by the $20K Bitcoin, she wants to spend $50 and get 1,000 DOGE, or better yet 5,000,000 SHIB. I'm not saying that's a sound investment, but you better believe there will be people who think it is, and at the end of the day isn't THAT what WE are banking on? Buying low now to sell high later to people like that. Everything is low right now. Pick a handful of what you to believe winners, and start DCA'ing into them, and get ready to cash in when this stuff goes mainstream. It's coming. IMHO.

#notfinancialadvice #doyourownresearch
Great info thanks Nathan. Any way to buy ETHE exposure through my Vanguard account besides the Grayscale fund?
Not sure, tbh. I know Blackrock, Fidelity and Chase have both announced they will be (or maybe already are) offering exposure to crypto, but I'm not sure what their actual investment vehicles look like.

One thing I'd caution though, when it comes to crypto, you want to be in control of your holdings. There was some earlier discussion in this thread about cold storage wallets (Ledger, etc.) and that's definitely the way to go if you are putting any significant amount of $ into it. That way you can send to any exchange when it's time to cash out. In the last bull market, when things were going crazy, some of the exchanges lost ability to process transactions. I.e. you couldn't sell your holdings that were in your wallet on their exchange. But if you had your holdings on a Ledger, etc. you could send that to another exchange and sell from there. Further, some places you can buy don't offer you the option to send it off-site. You can only hold on their site or app. Robinhood used to be that way, but I think they may have added the Send function now. I heard that but haven't confirmed. And I'm not sure how ETFs would handle that, but guessing you wouldn't have the option to export it, and would just be depending on their timing.
 
@GoBirds check out this article, related to our discussion above. An opinion piece, but he makes a good argument IMO


So, the preference for common technology over the value of optimized individual networks suggests that we’re not headed for a multichain future, but why do I think Ethereum will endure? The answer is that the older technology incumbents become, the harder they are to dislodge.

Every day that Ethereum remains the market leader it becomes more likely to stay that way for a very long time. If the blockchain market ends up looking anything like the PC or mobile operating system market, it seems like there is about a decade-long window for successful platform innovation during which time the role of market share leader can move around quite significantly.
 
HMMMMM.

Did Crypto finally bottom?
weird little jump today and I have no clue why lol
I think the big direction still hinges on what they do with interest rates. Meeting is 11/1 if I'm reading the right thing.
I think there's a good chance they raise rates again by a large bit. If they do, we go down. If they only do a small increase, we hold or maybe even rise a little bit. But full-on recession is coming (technically we are already there, there's already been 2 negative quarters), so I still think we are going well below the current support level.
 
HMMMMM.

Did Crypto finally bottom?
weird little jump today and I have no clue why lol
I think the big direction still hinges on what they do with interest rates. Meeting is 11/1 if I'm reading the right thing.
I think there's a good chance they raise rates again by a large bit. If they do, we go down. If they only do a small increase, we hold or maybe even rise a little bit. But full-on recession is coming (technically we are already there, there's already been 2 negative quarters), so I still think we are going well below the current support level.
yeah, the recession is the other side of the coin.

but, im mean covid is over. but russia......
 
Elon and DOGE. adding it to twitter? Thoughts?

I have some exposure to both Doge and Shib. And here's why, as I told GoBirds last week:

maybe something like 25% BTC, 15% ETH, 10% each on several of the other projects, a couple of % on a couple of fliers like SHIB or DOGE. I laughed at those before I saw some of the breakdown. Yes they are meme coins ( :poop: coins if you will) but they have staying power (thanks Reddit!) and perhaps most importantly, they are CHEAP and AVAILABLE on all the major exchanges and apps. So when grandma decides she needs to get some of that cryptocurrency she's seeing on the news, she doesn't want to by the $20K Bitcoin, she wants to spend $50 and get 1,000 DOGE, or better yet 5,000,000 SHIB. I'm not saying that's a sound investment, but you better believe there will be people who think it is, and at the end of the day isn't THAT what WE are banking on? Buying low now to sell high later to people like that.
 
HMMMMM.

Did Crypto finally bottom?
weird little jump today and I have no clue why lol
I think the big direction still hinges on what they do with interest rates. Meeting is 11/1 if I'm reading the right thing.
I think there's a good chance they raise rates again by a large bit. If they do, we go down. If they only do a small increase, we hold or maybe even rise a little bit. But full-on recession is coming (technically we are already there, there's already been 2 negative quarters), so I still think we are going well below the current support level.
yeah, the recession is the other side of the coin.

but, im mean covid is over. but russia......
Was watching an analysis yesterday and he pointed out that regardless of the price point right now, the underlying trading volume is :poop:

He had some charts/indicators showing that every time the trading volume was showing to be oversold, price has come down mightily shortly after. We are oversold currently. Do with that info what you will. I'm picking up some small amounts of cheap ones I have my eye on when there are daily dips, but waiting on the side for the big drop. It's still coming, IMO.
 
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:coffee: XRP: :drive:

As reported by the most advanced blockchain tracker and analytics system, Whale Alert, major wallet addresses have been busy accumulating a large number of XRP coins. Whales moved more than 158 million tokens in just three transactions in the past 8 hours. The largest transaction on the move is worth more than $32 million, with over 68 million XRP tokens that involved the Luxembourg-based cryptocurrency exchange, Bitstamp. The second-largest transaction recorded is worth roughly $28 million and sent 60 million tokens. The last transaction was worth approximately $14 million and sent 30 million XRP tokens that involved the Mexico-based cryptocurrency exchange, Bitso.

It’s hard to predict what will happen with XRP’s price accurately. But there is a lot of speculation that the price could rally if Ripple Labs wins its court case. The case between the SEC and Ripple could end in the next year, which would be a good sign for XRP’s price and growth. With the recent whale activities involving XRP, it makes sense that large investors are beginning to accumulate XRP tokens as they can while prices dip.
 

tl;dr: Bitcoin has returned to six-week highs. Over 55,000 Bitcoin left Binance on October 26. The recent outflow of Bitcoin from exchanges beats all other buying sprees on record. There is still a lack of evidence of Bitcoin bottoming. The US Federal Reserve meeting on interest rates could cause another drop.
 
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Tomorrow I decide If im buying big into ELON / DOGE

I do want to call my shot right now though.

10-30-22 APPLE will be the biggest crypto event ever. if they offer a way to buy crypto through the Iphone, or offer thier own token, it will blow up BTC.

calling my shot :moneybag:
 
Tomorrow I decide If im buying big into ELON / DOGE

I do want to call my shot right now though.

10-30-22 APPLE will be the biggest crypto event ever. if they offer a way to buy crypto through the Iphone, or offer thier own token, it will blow up BTC.

calling my shot :moneybag:
Oh it's coming. To them and every other app and ecosystem. Bet on it. The big boys are already making moves. Everyone else will too.
 
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I will be adding some more, but waiting for the impending death spiral after the interest rate hike. You see what the price did with just a little pump during this bear.
 
another nice bump for Polygon ($MATIC) :pickle:

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let me reiterate... the big boys are making moves right now, and we have an opportunity to get out in front of them:

friggin VISA: According to Visa's filings, the firm is contemplating a "cryptocurrency wallet," describing it as "software for users to view, access, store, monitor, manage, trade, send, receive, transmit, and exchange digital currency, virtual currency, cryptocurrency, digital and blockchain assets, and non-fungible tokens (NFTs)."

Paypal: PayPal's trademark application mentions "crypto" 18 times, beginning with "downloadable software for sending, receiving, accepting, buying, selling, storing, transmitting, trading and exchanging digital currency, virtual currency, cryptocurrency, stablecoins, digital and blockchain assets, digitized assets, digital tokens, crypto tokens and utility tokens."

Western Union: Western Union's filing appears to cover every aspect digital payments, including "the management and maintenance of digital currency and electronic wallets." Like the others, WU plans "downloadable software for generating cryptographic keys for receiving and spending cryptocurrency."
 

“It does appear that institutions are moving in. They’re taking this price decline from nearly $70,000 to roughly $20,000 as an opportunity to move into a new asset class.”

NRJ note: I still think we are coming down to 12-14K BTC price. See this:


“What drives bull markets are those initial 10% to 20% candles to the upside that signal it’s time to go long, the bear market’s over. We are not seeing that yet. And we are about to see something that for the first time in history has happened, which is the 200-day moving average is crossing the 200-week moving average. It is the first time we have seen this here.

Every time the 200-day moving average would slowly cup up right above and start moving higher above that weekly-moving average because it used to be a buy-the-dip opportunity. Nowadays, Bitcoin has been trending below the 200-week moving average since back in June. That is a screaming sign of fear. We’ve never seen this throughout Bitcoin’s history, having it remain below that moving average for so long.”

What I think that means overall is sometime in the coming few months, we are about to have a chance to buy even cheaper BTC (and as a result, everything else). #notfinancialadvice
 

The firm, one of the largest brokerages in the world handling $9.9 trillion in assets, opened an early-access waitlist to users Thursday morning. The service, called Fidelity Crypto, will allow investors to buy and sell bitcoin and ether and use custodial and trading services provided by its subsidiary Fidelity Digital Assets. Users will be required to maintain a $1 account minimum.

While trades with Fidelity Crypto will be free of commission fees, the firm says it will factor in a 1% spread into every trade execution price.
 
Since crashing from 69K to 17K (briefly), it's actually been pretty steady between 18.5 and 21K since the end of May.
Since mid-October, it's been very calm, having between low 20K to about 20.7K and today broke 21K.
Is it possible that the market has flushed out most/all of the sellers? It really has not been as correlated lately with tech, holding it's own when the market dropped this week.
Any theories on why bitcoin has been so boring/calm of late vs. the overall market? It's not as if there are a flood of buyers coming in, but I have been surprised by the recent behavior.
 
Since crashing from 69K to 17K (briefly), it's actually been pretty steady between 18.5 and 21K since the end of May.
Since mid-October, it's been very calm, having between low 20K to about 20.7K and today broke 21K.
Is it possible that the market has flushed out most/all of the sellers? It really has not been as correlated lately with tech, holding it's own when the market dropped this week.
Any theories on why bitcoin has been so boring/calm of late vs. the overall market? It's not as if there are a flood of buyers coming in, but I have been surprised by the recent behavior.
Yeah, I'm no chart analyzer but I follow a few that are pretty sharp. They seem to think the "boring" is just consolidation. The moving averages seem to point to bearishness still. And the amount of trading volume even on the little pumps hasn't been supporting the claims that we are bullish. Pretty much the opposite. And the liquidity pools (which I am not very familiar with myself) seem to be more plentiful and closer to BELOW the current price than above the current price, which from what I am told indicates there will be more downward movement to "eat up" that liquidity because it's easier to get to. Those things along with the stuff I posted this morning all seem to confirm the same theory that we are headed downward before we are heading back upwards (talking big moves, not the little 5-10% stuff we've been seeing for months now). Also notable that the 200-day moving average is about to cross below the 200-week moving average. That has never happened in BTC's history. It has come close, but never crossed. Every time it has come close, it has indicated upcoming volatility. So what happens when it actually crosses? I don't guess anyone knows but one guy I follow thinks it's not good and considering the state of the economy and world affairs, we are going downward in a big way within the next few months.
 
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Interestingly enough, just today a couple of the indicators have crossed into bullish territory. BUT, one of my main guys says this is more of a "wait and see" than "OMG Bull market!" situation. Because, some of the advanced indicators (like the 200-day vs 200-week mentioned above, and the Gaussian channel) are NOT in agreement that we are bullish. His call is that we may be seeing the beginning of a relief rally to 25K (I can't remember for sure why he said that was the top, but he had a reason for that number... maybe resistance line from a previous market run? idk) BUT he stands by his call of 12-14k still. We know the Fed is going to keep raising rates. It would be a miracle for any market to rise after that, IMO.
I'm still DCA'ing everything just in case and waiting for the drop. #notfinancialadvice
 
good time to jump in or still wait?
Nobody can time the absolute bottom. My thoughts are still that we are close to the bottom (just not absolute bottom yet) of this bear market, so I am continuing to dollar cost average into everything I'm interested in. I think it will come down a bit further overall, but there will be some small runups along the way. I think we have another year or so before we get back to full bull market.
 
The drop in SBF’s fortune is sick. He went from just over $15 billion on Monday to a little over $1 billion now. Crazy.
 

He says 14K. This aligns with several other analysts I follow (and what I've posted in the thread here).

And yep, @KGB, this is the time to be doubling down on projects you believe in. This is CryptoMart and everything is on sale! :lol: I'm going to scoop some more SOL today I think. Still thinking it (and everything else) will become cheaper, but at the same time, it's hard to pass up these prices.
 

He says 14K. This aligns with several other analysts I follow (and what I've posted in the thread here).

And yep, @KGB, this is the time to be doubling down on projects you believe in. This is CryptoMart and everything is on sale! :lol: I'm going to scoop some more SOL today I think. Still thinking it (and everything else) will become cheaper, but at the same time, it's hard to pass up these prices.
You may want to wait a little. The current SOL epoch ends 8:30 UTC, Nov 10. About 50 million tokens. Probably a lot of token owners will look to sell and drive the price down futher.
 

He says 14K. This aligns with several other analysts I follow (and what I've posted in the thread here).

And yep, @KGB, this is the time to be doubling down on projects you believe in. This is CryptoMart and everything is on sale! :lol: I'm going to scoop some more SOL today I think. Still thinking it (and everything else) will become cheaper, but at the same time, it's hard to pass up these prices.
You may want to wait a little. The current SOL epoch ends 8:30 UTC, Nov 10. About 50 million tokens. Probably a lot of token owners will look to sell and drive the price down futher.
Interesting, I need to read up on that. Thanks, GB!
 

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