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The organization absolutely knew about it, there's no question. They even tweeted a picture of the shirt before the game, I think.
My problem with their action is that they have the Dallas police department listed with BLM, and the two individuals. This, to me, suggests while they are supporting justice for the people who were shot by police, they are also explicitly against the violence that has been directed to police. Basically, against violence. This seems a reasonable stance, and not strictly anti-police. Maybe I'm being naive and missing something.
I hope that study actually correlates with what's going on. Here's my concern:
Ha, ok right that's what that implied.
Honestly, the one that sickens me is Tamir Rice.
Agreed. Have long thought this was most awful of a lot of awful stories. This is one of the ones that folks should point to when suggesting cops are more likely to shoot first ask questions later when it comes to black people. The video of this one looks more like a hit than police work. Terrible.
Samuel Dubose- Officer (Raymond Tensing) indicted by grand jury on charges of murder and involuntary manslaughter and fired by the department. Trial in October 2016.
I'm afraid the fringes are going to get worse before this gets better. The splinter is coming - BLM will work closer with the police and governmental organizations, and the fringes are going to join splinter factions like FYF.
I don't think it shows lack of awareness at all. I realize there's work to be done but I also am a realist and realize that like it or not, a police officer's actions are a learned response based on experience. I'm no fan of police in general because I personally feel they habitually abuse their authority, but I also don't think they go around shooting people for no reason. Don't give them a reason to draw their weapon - don't become belligerent, don't resist, don't become physical, etc... Show me the case where someone got shot after following police instructions.
If I'm not mistaken, the responding officers were not given the information about it being a juvenile with what was likely a toy gun. That was never communicated to them by the 911 op.
No worries. And by the way, my rationale applies to people of all colors, not just blacks.
This is one area I would really like to see improved. Lets say you pull over a car that has three occupants. Something happens and you are forced to shoot one. Cuff the other two or cuff one and instruct the other on how to perform CPR immediately. I understand securing the area and the scene for the cops safety. You can still maintain control AND get medical attention to the victim much faster than what they frequently do. If the other two are uncooperative, fine, I get it, but at least you tried.
That's correct, the 911 operator never relayed that info.
I would guess the rationale is so that a cop isn't surprised by a concealed weapon which could lead to tragedy. It I had a concealed weapon and was stopped by police it would be common sense to me to announce to the officer that I had a weapon on my person so that they weren't surprised by the finding if it came to that. There is no reason to hide that information from the cop because it could only lead to negative responses. There is no positive reason to keep that information hidden.
If only it were that simple
One officer, the other didn't think it necessary to fire. The officer who was deemed 'UNFIT' to be a police officer at his previous job.
I know that sucked for you, but I'm not seeing the problem. I'm really not. That is probably the number one moment in a police/motorist interaction where there is the potential for a problem. And while it is definitely disconcerting to have a gun pulled on you for what you knew in your head to be nothing, the cop did not know that. He probably has a wife and kids too and planned on seeing them later just like you did and was going to make damn sure he didn't end up dead on the side of the road because he gave someone the benefit of the doubt. They can't afford to give anyone that benefit and sad to say - now more than ever.
Lesson really is put your tag on when it was supposed to be in the first place. Made himself a target. Or did you forget that part?
To be fair, the OP said the gun came out when the cop noticed there were bats on the passenger side of the vehicle that OP was reaching toward. He didn't get a gun pulled on him because of expired tabs.
This is true.
We have identified the whole problem. You are driving around with what to any logical person appear to be expired plates, yet the cop is a mother ####er.?
Bats can be used as a weapon, though unless the car was a convertible, it would be pretty hard to use them in these circumstances.
So can tennis rackets. You wouldn't announce those as weapons.
Agreed. I was just thinking that. I have played a lot of softball in my life and I don't know anyone who is good enough to grab a 34" bat from the passenger side of a vehicle and do any real damage with it (to someone (presumably) outside the driver side window) from a seated driver position. At least, not quickly enough that the cop couldn't react and avoid/draw weapon/etc. So it does seem the cop was being overly cautious/excessive in this case. But, that is easy for me to say sitting here in the den of my home. The cop is standing there in the street and its his ### on the line.
This is true and a worthwhile correction, but I don't think it in any way excuses the officer. The kid took no menacing action towards the cop. Even if the cop thought he was an adult and even if the cop thought the gun was real, Ohio is an open carry state and the kid was just sitting at a park bench. No way he should have been shooting two seconds after stopping the car.
LOL you guys are something else.
