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David Yudkin said:
[scooter] said:
I'd bring in Jake Plummer. Seriously. He can still play.
I believe that he's still property of the Bucs.
Plummer reached a settlement with the Bucs earlier this year. This link indicates that the Bucs will retain Plummer's rights through 2009. But another site says the Bucs will get a partial credit on their 2009 salary cap, so I'm not sure how they can have the salary cap relief AND retain his rights.
I beleive teams retain a player's rights to prevent a player from "retiring" just to get out of his contract and be able to sign with another team. That's sort of what happened with Barry Sanders, as he argued hew was done wit the Lions and could sign with anyone else and it was determined they retained his rights for IIRC what would have been the duration of his contract.I also believe that teams will get some sort of cap relief for players on the retired list, but I'm not sure how that works.
I don't know who is right here but it went to court so a judge decided. It's probably a little different than other players going thru the NFL and NFLPA. Plus IIRC judge said Plummer had to pay some $ to the Bucs. I think he's officially done with the Bucs once he paid that money. It was a means to end the contract/working relationship. I'm not sure though. Might be worth googling
 
David Yudkin said:
[scooter] said:
I'd bring in Jake Plummer. Seriously. He can still play.
I believe that he's still property of the Bucs.
Plummer reached a settlement with the Bucs earlier this year. This link indicates that the Bucs will retain Plummer's rights through 2009. But another site says the Bucs will get a partial credit on their 2009 salary cap, so I'm not sure how they can have the salary cap relief AND retain his rights.
I beleive teams retain a player's rights to prevent a player from "retiring" just to get out of his contract and be able to sign with another team. That's sort of what happened with Barry Sanders, as he argued hew was done wit the Lions and could sign with anyone else and it was determined they retained his rights for IIRC what would have been the duration of his contract.I also believe that teams will get some sort of cap relief for players on the retired list, but I'm not sure how that works.
I don't know who is right here but it went to court so a judge decided. It's probably a little different than other players going thru the NFL and NFLPA. Plus IIRC judge said Plummer had to pay some $ to the Bucs. I think he's officially done with the Bucs once he paid that money. It was a means to end the contract/working relationship. I'm not sure though. Might be worth googling
Plummer had to give back $3.5 million, and the Bucs get $3.5 million in cap relief in 2009.But what happens if Plummer returns to the Bucs in 2009? Do they have to give the cap space back?

 
The whole intent of monitoring retiring/unretiring was to prevent players from refusing to play for one team to then pick up with another. The rules on that seem pretty murky in my eyes, but I was still under the impression that just like coaches if someone retired they either had to stay retired or the team they were with held their rights. Just like with Brett Favre. He couldn't retire with Green Bay and then move on because he wanted to. Now, how long someone would have to wait is another issue. I can try to poke around and check, but that could take awhile . . .

 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
Liquid Tension said:
What is interesting to me is that the 4 best teams in the AFC (IMO) have all taken some hits. SD has LT and Gates with toe injuries and Merrimen is now off the team; Indy has had the Manning issue on top of losing Jeff Saturday and even Addai got his bell rung; Jacksonville lost 2 starting lineman and now NE. Teams that are upcoming should be pumped up. The Jets have a huge opportunity this Sunday and must take advantage of it. Kerry Collins taking over for Tennessee is a good thing for Tennessee and while I think Collins is really getting old, he was always a little underrated in my eyes. Pitt has to be happy as well...Anyway, it should be fun.
Agree that it's interesting.I think SD and Indy will be OK, at least in terms of making the playoffs. NE and JAX both have a tough road to how, and I would expect that JAX falls short unless the two wildcards end up being JAX and TENN. TENN is IN as far as I'm concerned, unless the VY situation becomes even more of a train wreck. So to me it comes down to JAX, NYJ, BUFF or CLE for that second wildcard (OK MAYBE Balt, but I need to see more).Today (EARLY!!!) I would say it's BUFF based on all 3 phases of the game.I am also very high on PITT and see them winning their division, but a lot off PITT fans are saying hold on, our oline cannot protect Ben. I think they're being pessimistic, but they know their team better than I do.
Kerry Collins may be able to help the offense more than VY, so Tennessee may be in good shape. I worry about Cleveland though. I wonder if Denver can get it going as I have said that Cutler steps up big this year?
 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
Liquid Tension said:
What is interesting to me is that the 4 best teams in the AFC (IMO) have all taken some hits. SD has LT and Gates with toe injuries and Merrimen is now off the team; Indy has had the Manning issue on top of losing Jeff Saturday and even Addai got his bell rung; Jacksonville lost 2 starting lineman and now NE. Teams that are upcoming should be pumped up. The Jets have a huge opportunity this Sunday and must take advantage of it. Kerry Collins taking over for Tennessee is a good thing for Tennessee and while I think Collins is really getting old, he was always a little underrated in my eyes. Pitt has to be happy as well...Anyway, it should be fun.
Agree that it's interesting.I think SD and Indy will be OK, at least in terms of making the playoffs. NE and JAX both have a tough road to how, and I would expect that JAX falls short unless the two wildcards end up being JAX and TENN. TENN is IN as far as I'm concerned, unless the VY situation becomes even more of a train wreck. So to me it comes down to JAX, NYJ, BUFF or CLE for that second wildcard (OK MAYBE Balt, but I need to see more).Today (EARLY!!!) I would say it's BUFF based on all 3 phases of the game.I am also very high on PITT and see them winning their division, but a lot off PITT fans are saying hold on, our oline cannot protect Ben. I think they're being pessimistic, but they know their team better than I do.
Kerry Collins may be able to help the offense more than VY, so Tennessee may be in good shape. I worry about Cleveland though. I wonder if Denver can get it going as I have said that Cutler steps up big this year?
Tenn and Denver perceptions may be a little out of whack due to the whoopin Denver put on Oakland and the pass rush Tenn put on the Jags with all their oline injuries...I need to see more from both.Cleveland got served a good wakeup call; I'm betting they wake up. The defense looked worlds better after halftime (I'm sure they got REAMED by the coaches).
 

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