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Bloom 100: 26-50 (1 Viewer)

Sigmund Bloom

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thanks for the patience everyone - 51-100 will be out before training camp!

Please feel free to ask questions about any rooks in this thread, ill check in periodically.

 
Thanks bloom, Bloom is your bloom 100 based on ppr for RBs? Do you really see Booker doing that bell non ppr? Why do you have the LBs so low?

 
Thanks bloom, Bloom is your bloom 100 based on ppr for RBs? Do you really see Booker doing that bell non ppr? Why do you have the LBs so low?
its not based on PPR, I just see Booker getting Bush/MJD quality 12-15 touches a game as he settles in. The LBs are low because its easier to get replacement LBs, sometimes off the waiver wire. I think all three will be quality fantasy LBs, but in most scoring systems, even the most studly LB goes around 75 in initial drafts - at the same as 2nd tier QBs, 3rd tier WRs, 2nd tier TEs, and so on. As always this is a ROUGH guide - adjust for your scoring system, lineups, league size, and the makeup of your roster before using this as any sort of rookie draft cheatsheet. The main purpose of the 100 is inform about the progress/outlook of the rooks, the rankings are secondary.
 
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Thanks Bloom :goodposting:

Your Bloom 100 is top notch because unlike the other FBG rookie rankings; which breakdown Offense and IDP seperately; it gives a good idea for the Rookie IDP drafts that occur and when you should start thinking about going IDP.

Keep up the great work

 
Thanks Bloom <_< Your Bloom 100 is top notch because unlike the other FBG rookie rankings; which breakdown Offense and IDP seperately; it gives a good idea for the Rookie IDP drafts that occur and when you should start thinking about going IDP.Keep up the great work
RB23, the kind words are always appreciated.Well beware that I am somewhat lower on IDPs in a mixed league than someone like Dr. Jene, who would surely have the IDPs higher across the board. There is a bit of anti-IDP bias in my mixed rookie rankings because I think they are much less scarce and easier to replace cheaply than the offensive skill positions. There are plenty of leagues with equal IDP and O value, and in those leagues, Dr. Jene's philosophy is right on - you might consider Willis as high as 6 or 7, maybe even 5.
 
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Wouldn't Jason Hill have to beat out Arnaz Battle AND Ashley Lelie to be a starter? Even so, will he not have to contend with not only D-Jax but also Vernon Davis and Frank Gore getting receptions?

I know this is a gripe about #23 - but I feel it reflects on the WRs below him such as Laurent Robinson and Jacoby Jones that could just as well qualify as starters sooner than later.

 
Thanks Bloom :unsure: Your Bloom 100 is top notch because unlike the other FBG rookie rankings; which breakdown Offense and IDP seperately; it gives a good idea for the Rookie IDP drafts that occur and when you should start thinking about going IDP.Keep up the great work
RB23, the kind words are always appreciated.Well beware that I am somewhat lower on IDPs in a mixed league than someone like Dr. Jene, who would surely have the IDPs higher across the board. There is a bit of anti-IDP bias in my mixed rookie rankings because I think they are much less scarce and easier to replace cheaply than the offensive skill positions. There are plenty of leagues with equal IDP and O value, and in those leagues, Dr. Jene's philosophy is right on - you might consider Willis as high as 6 or 7, maybe even 5.
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Thanks Bloom :unsure: Your Bloom 100 is top notch because unlike the other FBG rookie rankings; which breakdown Offense and IDP seperately; it gives a good idea for the Rookie IDP drafts that occur and when you should start thinking about going IDP.Keep up the great work
RB23,We did kick this around as an idea, but given the different IDP league setups out there (in particular, starting 11 vs. starting fewer IDPs, in addition to such a variety of scoring systems) it just didn't make enough sense for us to "go there".If you have questions in particular about when and where to go for IDPs, check out the IDP Forum (and the associated assistant coach forum under IDP) as nearly every league is different.
 
Wouldn't Jason Hill have to beat out Arnaz Battle AND Ashley Lelie to be a starter? Even so, will he not have to contend with not only D-Jax but also Vernon Davis and Frank Gore getting receptions?I know this is a gripe about #23 - but I feel it reflects on the WRs below him such as Laurent Robinson and Jacoby Jones that could just as well qualify as starters sooner than later.
FWIW, Lelie has pretty much beat himself out. Dude is done.
 
Wouldn't Jason Hill have to beat out Arnaz Battle AND Ashley Lelie to be a starter? Even so, will he not have to contend with not only D-Jax but also Vernon Davis and Frank Gore getting receptions?I know this is a gripe about #23 - but I feel it reflects on the WRs below him such as Laurent Robinson and Jacoby Jones that could just as well qualify as starters sooner than later.
Actually, Kevin Lynch did clear that up for us in the interview, battle is probably in line to start before Hill, Hill has been slow to pick up the offense (which is normal for a rook) - at first Battle was lining up in the slot, and Hill was behind Lelie. I still think Hill has a higher floor than Robinson/Jones with about the same ceiling (unless Houston's O gets on track). Your instinct is right, there's not much separating the WRs in 20s and the ranking somewhat comes down to personal preference.
 
Wouldn't Jason Hill have to beat out Arnaz Battle AND Ashley Lelie to be a starter?
Is this like saying that peas would have to taste better than cauliflour AND brussel sprouts to make it to dinner?
Lelie, yes, Battle, no. Battle is actually a quality courageous possession WR and decent YAC thread in the Hines Ward mode.
Battle's a good possession receiver and I've had him (reasonably) high for a while, but he's not irreplaceable.I do think he's a nice value late in drafts this year.That said, Hill only has to beat out one guy this year - assuming Darrell Jackson can't stay healthy, which looks to be the case yet again.Lelie really gets hurt by recent statements that the 49ers are going more traditional WCO - meaning more possession-type passes, not deep throws (where Lelie is best - not saying he's good there, but if anything is his strength, it's the deep ball)........we now return the thread to the rookies....
 
That said, Hill only has to beat out one guy this year - assuming Darrell Jackson can't stay healthy, which looks to be the case yet again.
Actually, if i read Kevin Lynch's comments correctly, and the Niners recent lineup at OTAs, Hill would have to beat out Battle to start too.
 
That said, Hill only has to beat out one guy this year - assuming Darrell Jackson can't stay healthy, which looks to be the case yet again.
Actually, if i read Kevin Lynch's comments correctly, and the Niners recent lineup at OTAs, Hill would have to beat out Battle to start too.
If DJax is out in Week 1, the starters would be.......Currently I see it DJax and Battle as the starters, not Lelie, so if DJax is down it's wide open. Battle stays on as a starter, but the other wideout is wide open and doesn't default to Lelie.

 
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That said, Hill only has to beat out one guy this year - assuming Darrell Jackson can't stay healthy, which looks to be the case yet again.
Actually, if i read Kevin Lynch's comments correctly, and the Niners recent lineup at OTAs, Hill would have to beat out Battle to start too.
If DJax is out in Week 1, the starters would be.......
Brandon Williams?Even if Hill is day one starter that will not make him a success - particularly if he is being "brought along slowly"

That can be said about a lot of rookies though.

 
Thanks Bloom :gang2: Your Bloom 100 is top notch because unlike the other FBG rookie rankings; which breakdown Offense and IDP seperately; it gives a good idea for the Rookie IDP drafts that occur and when you should start thinking about going IDP.Keep up the great work
RB23, the kind words are always appreciated.Well beware that I am somewhat lower on IDPs in a mixed league than someone like Dr. Jene, who would surely have the IDPs higher across the board. There is a bit of anti-IDP bias in my mixed rookie rankings because I think they are much less scarce and easier to replace cheaply than the offensive skill positions. There are plenty of leagues with equal IDP and O value, and in those leagues, Dr. Jene's philosophy is right on - you might consider Willis as high as 6 or 7, maybe even 5.
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Thanks Bloom :angry: Your Bloom 100 is top notch because unlike the other FBG rookie rankings; which breakdown Offense and IDP seperately; it gives a good idea for the Rookie IDP drafts that occur and when you should start thinking about going IDP.Keep up the great work
RB23, the kind words are always appreciated.Well beware that I am somewhat lower on IDPs in a mixed league than someone like Dr. Jene, who would surely have the IDPs higher across the board. There is a bit of anti-IDP bias in my mixed rookie rankings because I think they are much less scarce and easier to replace cheaply than the offensive skill positions. There are plenty of leagues with equal IDP and O value, and in those leagues, Dr. Jene's philosophy is right on - you might consider Willis as high as 6 or 7, maybe even 5.
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In this case it means I saw this post and am always nervous of having a different opinion on dynasty concepts than Bloom. I think he and I agree for the most part here though.
 
Thanks Bloom :angry: Your Bloom 100 is top notch because unlike the other FBG rookie rankings; which breakdown Offense and IDP seperately; it gives a good idea for the Rookie IDP drafts that occur and when you should start thinking about going IDP.Keep up the great work
RB23,We did kick this around as an idea, but given the different IDP league setups out there (in particular, starting 11 vs. starting fewer IDPs, in addition to such a variety of scoring systems) it just didn't make enough sense for us to "go there".If you have questions in particular about when and where to go for IDPs, check out the IDP Forum (and the associated assistant coach forum under IDP) as nearly every league is different.
I think it personally would be a great idea, but I can also see where you guys think it might be a somewhat waste of time. My formats in particular value IDP's as almost equals to Offensive guys: starting 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2DL, 3LB, and 3DB.What I've done is combine Bloom's 100 with the rookie rankings, and you get a great draft board where Patrick Willis wouldn't be your #2 guy on the board if you merged the Off and IDP staff rankings.Of course, much like all leagues - the offensive guys get all the glory (and the high trade value)
 
so with high value of booker, that directly reflects a lower value for Ronnie Brown?

I am considering Brown or Caddy

I don't see the "MJD/Bush" affect in TB, with Pittman.. but I agree that Booker could take something away from Browns value...

opinions?

 
so with high value of booker, that directly reflects a lower value for Ronnie Brown? I am considering Brown or Caddy I don't see the "MJD/Bush" affect in TB, with Pittman.. but I agree that Booker could take something away from Browns value...opinions?
Caddy continues to work on the skills that will keep on the field everydown - receiving and blocking, and Pittman is not nearly as dynamic as MJD/Bush/Booker when it comes to big plays. That being said, I still have Ronnie slightly higher because of the lingering durability question with Caddy.
 

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