Brad Childress Fired (1 Viewer)

[basher]

Does any coach want the stigma of being the guy who benched favre during his streak?

 

[ookook]

If I were the Vikings, I would start Tarvaris Jackson.

I doubt whoever they bring in to be the next QB will be day 1 ready.

For example, suppose they draft a QB in an early round.

Or suppose they bring in a FA; that QB should have to beat out Jackson.

Despite his bad reputation here, he was doing better and may well be their best shot at teh start of next season, so play him.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

If I were the Vikings, I would start Tarvaris Jackson. I doubt whoever they bring in to be the next QB will be day 1 ready. For example, suppose they draft a QB in an early round.Or suppose they bring in a FA; that QB should have to beat out Jackson. Despite his bad reputation here, he was doing better and may well be their best shot at teh start of next season, so play him.

Jackson is a free agent, so unless they resign him then he won't be an option anyway. Also, Frerotte played them into the playoffs and then they gave Jackson the start in the playoffs and he laid an egg.

 

[Flash]

Spielman has to be gone as well, no? If not now, certainly by the end of the season. He went all-in and has nothing to show for it but a roster that is a mess now and a completely dysfunctional team. I can't imagine any way a GM survives a disaster like this, that runs through the players, coaches and management.

As a Packer fan, my only concern is that I don't want Minnesota to lose the team. It has become a decent rivalry the past 10 years or so, although still a distant second for us to the Bears, regardless of the teams' ups and downs.

As much as I can't stand them, this would totally suxor.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Not surprised he is starting Favre THIS week.

Big change in coaching staff, need to let that settle and let the players get used it.

But IF Favre plays like crap this week in Washington I for one wouldn't be 'd if TJ started the following week.

I can get behind this. Basically tell all the players it's a blank slate and move forward from there.

 

[mozzy84]

If I were the Vikings, I would start Tarvaris Jackson. I doubt whoever they bring in to be the next QB will be day 1 ready. For example, suppose they draft a QB in an early round.Or suppose they bring in a FA; that QB should have to beat out Jackson. Despite his bad reputation here, he was doing better and may well be their best shot at teh start of next season, so play him.

Jackson is a free agent, so unless they resign him then he won't be an option anyway. Also, Frerotte played them into the playoffs and then they gave Jackson the start in the playoffs and he laid an egg.

yup jackson is good as done, the only reason he is still on the team is because of chilly, no way he is back next year. they stick with favre and watch him suck it up the rest of the year or go with webb and see if he shows any promise what so ever.

 

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[dickey moe]

Wade Phillips would be a great fit in MIN

This team doesn't need a Santa Clause for head coach.

 

[fatness]

Wet blanket alert to all wanting to see Jackson get some run...

But that could change with Frazier now in charge and it could especially change if Favre is allowed a bigger role in the offensive meetings. Remember, a complaint of every veteran quarterback who played for Childress was that their input wasn't welcomed. Frazier, with Darrell Bevell certainly remaining as his offensive coordinator, likely will have a far different approach.

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So Adrian Peterson will get more rest now.

 

[3nOut]

Hopefully they keep Fraiser for the long run.

I think he's a keeper as well. I had him on my short list of possible future Lovie Smith replacements. Frasier makes it three former '85 Bears working as active head coaches. I know the 49ers are having a terrible year but I still think Singletary is a good coach. That's a great testament to how good the '85 Bears and Buddy Ryan really were.

Forgot to mention Ron Rivera the DC in San Diego has a shot at becoming a HC sometime soon. That would make it 4. Really amazing.

 

[Da Guru]

Shincoe hit it on the head today when he said. Childress does not go on the field and play. We are pros, if the players looked in the mirror we would see where the problems are.

 

[Bull Dozier]

Colts fans: How much control did Dungy have with personnel decisions? Is he a good evaluator of talent?

For the record, talent evaluation is not the problem with the Vikings. They've actually drafted pretty well during the Childress era and are a much more talented team than the one he took over.Which makes his firing all the more logical.

Childress isn't the man in charge of the draft, though. The Vikes, looking forward, have a huge hole at the most important decision and that is the result of Childress. Jackson was Childress' guy, and that pick set the franchise back several years. We have nothing at that position at this point.But, I get your point. We don't need a personnel expert with the scouting department we have. Though, on the other hand, any coach worth bringing in is going to be the kind that want to run the whole show. How many top tier coaches exist that don't have total control?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Childress isn't the man in charge of the draft, though. The Vikes, looking forward, have a huge hole at the most important decision and that is the result of Childress. Jackson was Childress' guy, and that pick set the franchise back several years. We have nothing at that position at this point.But, I get your point. We don't need a personnel expert with the scouting department we have. Though, on the other hand, any coach worth bringing in is going to be the kind that want to run the whole show. How many top tier coaches exist that don't have total control?

The worst draft (other than this last year, which the jury's still out on) was the first one, but that also included Fran Foley in the mix. And yes, the selection of Jackson (and Ryan Cook) in the 2nd was a bad deal. But it's also why I think Chili had less influence on draft day after that.I don't like having a GM and Head Coach be one guy. Isn't it about 50/50 in the hires lately that guys have total control. Mike Smith in Atlanta, for instance, has Dimitroff as a GM.

 

[TheChairman]

Shincoe hit it on the head today when he said. Childress does not go on the field and play. We are pros, if the players looked in the mirror we would see where the problems are.

I Shiancoe. I hope he gets traded to a real team so I can get his jersey. I don't look good in purple.

 

[Bull Dozier]

Childress isn't the man in charge of the draft, though. The Vikes, looking forward, have a huge hole at the most important decision and that is the result of Childress. Jackson was Childress' guy, and that pick set the franchise back several years. We have nothing at that position at this point.But, I get your point. We don't need a personnel expert with the scouting department we have. Though, on the other hand, any coach worth bringing in is going to be the kind that want to run the whole show. How many top tier coaches exist that don't have total control?

The worst draft (other than this last year, which the jury's still out on) was the first one, but that also included Fran Foley in the mix. And yes, the selection of Jackson (and Ryan Cook) in the 2nd was a bad deal. But it's also why I think Chili had less influence on draft day after that.I don't like having a GM and Head Coach be one guy. Isn't it about 50/50 in the hires lately that guys have total control. Mike Smith in Atlanta, for instance, has Dimitroff as a GM.

I think you have to get lucky with guys like Smith, and others who are willing to take a shot without control. I know these guys are pipedreams for the Vikings, but the Cowers, Parcells, and Gruden's of the world aren't going to come without complete control. I have more faith in guys like that coming in and turning things around, than I am with getting lucky on a coach with less of a track record.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Colts fans: How much control did Dungy have with personnel decisions? Is he a good evaluator of talent?

For the record, talent evaluation is not the problem with the Vikings. They've actually drafted pretty well during the Childress era and are a much more talented team than the one he took over.Which makes his firing all the more logical.

Childress isn't the man in charge of the draft, though. The Vikes, looking forward, have a huge hole at the most important decision and that is the result of Childress. Jackson was Childress' guy, and that pick set the franchise back several years. We have nothing at that position at this point.But, I get your point. We don't need a personnel expert with the scouting department we have. Though, on the other hand, any coach worth bringing in is going to be the kind that want to run the whole show. How many top tier coaches exist that don't have total control?

The point I've been making in these threads is that, it seems to me, Vikings fans want to give Childress none of the credit for the supposedly talented roster they built over the past several years, but all of the blame for the bad decisions and dysfunctional personnel issues they've experienced during that time. They want to blame him for this season's failures, but give him zero credit for last season's success (indeed, the most common notion I hear is that the Vikings won despite Childress). It seems the fans want to believe that by firing Childress, alone, this organization instantly cures all its ills overnight. That strikes me as wishful thinking. The roster had talent, but not enough it appears to weather a few injuries and a bit of aging, both of which should be expected. Surely, Zigi must share some of the blame for allowing his organization to become such a joke. Similarly, I don't understand how Spielman gets a pass, not to mention Frazier and Bevell. What were all these other guys doing when Chilly was single-handedly taking a superbowl team and turning it into a loser?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The point I've been making in these threads is that, it seems to me, Vikings fans want to give Childress none of the credit for the supposedly talented roster they built over the past several years, but all of the blame for the bad decisions and dysfunctional personnel issues they've experienced during that time. They want to blame him for this season's failures, but give him zero credit for last season's success (indeed, the most common notion I hear is that the Vikings won despite Childress). It seems the fans want to believe that by firing Childress, alone, this organization instantly cures all its ills overnight. That strikes me as wishful thinking. The roster had talent, but not enough it appears to weather a few injuries and a bit of aging, both of which should be expected. Surely, Zigi must share some of the blame for allowing his organization to become such a joke. Similarly, I don't understand how Spielman gets a pass, not to mention Frazier and Bevell. What were all these other guys doing when Chilly was single-handedly taking a superbowl team and turning it into a loser?

Childress was pretty good at aiding in putting a team together. He was a terrible head coach. That's what he was fired for.The two responsibilities are distinct. He was good at one and bad at the other.

 

[Bull Dozier]

The point I've been making in these threads is that, it seems to me, Vikings fans want to give Childress none of the credit for the supposedly talented roster they built over the past several years, but all of the blame for the bad decisions and dysfunctional personnel issues they've experienced during that time. They want to blame him for this season's failures, but give him zero credit for last season's success (indeed, the most common notion I hear is that the Vikings won despite Childress). It seems the fans want to believe that by firing Childress, alone, this organization instantly cures all its ills overnight. That strikes me as wishful thinking. The roster had talent, but not enough it appears to weather a few injuries and a bit of aging, both of which should be expected. Surely, Zigi must share some of the blame for allowing his organization to become such a joke. Similarly, I don't understand how Spielman gets a pass, not to mention Frazier and Bevell. What were all these other guys doing when Chilly was single-handedly taking a superbowl team and turning it into a loser?

It's impossible for me to determine how much credit is due to Childress for the team's successes. I don't know who's exactly making decisions on who gets drafted, who is signed, etc. Childress obviously has some input (I'd put Favre's appearance as 99% credit to Childress), but other than that, with the triangle of authority, I don't know exactly what goes on behind those doors. The roster is the highlight of Childress' era (that said, there's most likely going to be major turnover after this season, and a lot of that will be Childress' responsibility).On game day, I can see a lot of blame that deserves to be laid at the feet of Childress. The poor play calling, the lack of in game adjustments, the boneheaded strategic mistakes, etc. Those are 100% head coach responsibilties. He blew it there.

So, while I will give some credit to Childress for the good of the last few years (the roster), he had shared responsibilities there. However, I do agree that the successes on the field came despite Childress. I think if you replaced just about any other average or better offensive mind in Childress' place on the sideline, things would have gone a lot better.

 

[Deadman31]

they should make Favre a player/coach so he will never ever go away. Imagine the fun of every offseason, waiting to see who the Vikings QB AND Head Coach will be. It would be twice the Favre twice the fun!!!

 

[fatness]

they should make Favre a player/coach so he will never ever go away. Imagine the fun of every offseason, waiting to see who the Vikings QB AND Head Coach will be. It would be twice the Favre twice the fun!!!

It would be like old-time rasslin' matches, when the manager jumps in the ring."What's going on here? Favre is on the field, throwing his QB out of the way! Things are breaking down here!!!!"

cut to commercial

 

[flapgreen]

Nice work, Brent.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

It would be funny if the Vikings played against the Cowboys in the NFC Championship game this year.

With six teams in the NFC at 7-3 or better, you've got a better shot at winning the Power Ball than of this happening.

:'(

 

[TommyGilmore]

they should make Favre a player/coach so he will never ever go away. Imagine the fun of every offseason, waiting to see who the Vikings QB AND Head Coach will be. It would be twice the Favre twice the fun!!!

It would be like old-time rasslin' matches, when the manager jumps in the ring."What's going on here? Favre is on the field, throwing his QB out of the way! Things are breaking down here!!!!"

cut to commercial

"Oh my god, that's Brett Favre's theme music!!!"