Brady looking good...but (1 Viewer)

[Vintage_Football]

He went 17 of 22 for 167 and 2 tds. He did this again with minimal production from Stallworth and Moss out. It appears to me that he has a nack for these undercard recievers. If Moss and Stallworth can show us at least some of what we expect from them, i've got Brady barely behind Manning at the QB position.

who agrees?

 

[PahtyTom]

I think Brady and Stallworth are going to get better together every week. This year, Stallworth > Moss.

 

[supermark_28]

Absolutely LOVE Brady this year and I dont think New England brought in a stable of

receivers to run the ball. And yes,I have him #2 behind Peyton.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Watson was looking good...

 

[Koya]

Every year Brady seems to excel in the first half... good weather, higher scoring games. Then as the season gets into a playoff push, things get more conservative, games get tighter and weather gets worse.

Not sure why this year would be any different. Brady first half of the season, running game second.

 

[Vintage_Football]

Every year Brady seems to excel in the first half... good weather, higher scoring games. Then as the season gets into a playoff push, things get more conservative, games get tighter and weather gets worse.Not sure why this year would be any different. Brady first half of the season, running game second.

I think that you're correct in saying that the Pats tend to run more in the 2nd half of the season. I think it helps getting the talent at WR they have now, therefore they won't be pidgeon-holed into only really having that option. Now when it gets late in the season, they'll still have vetran playmakers at WR if their running game stalls.

 

[Sleeper 43]

I took note that when off the field Stallworth and Brady sat next to each other talking playbook, which is a good sign.

BUT Wes Welker seems to be all business thus far and Stallworth has a chronic hammy problem.

 

[Vintage_Football]

Stallworth does have problem with some injuries, Moss as well, but with all 3 together (welker included) neither of them should have to be overworked too much throughout the season hopefully. I've been keeping my eye on Stallworth to maybe acquire him in my league, seeing as the guy that owns him never really was pleased with him before. He has the chance to really show what he's worth in NE i believe. So not all eyes will be on Moss.

 

[Koya]

Every year Brady seems to excel in the first half... good weather, higher scoring games. Then as the season gets into a playoff push, things get more conservative, games get tighter and weather gets worse.Not sure why this year would be any different. Brady first half of the season, running game second.

I think that you're correct in saying that the Pats tend to run more in the 2nd half of the season. I think it helps getting the talent at WR they have now, therefore they won't be pidgeon-holed into only really having that option. Now when it gets late in the season, they'll still have vetran playmakers at WR if their running game stalls.

It just seems that every year Brady gets of to a crazy start, with some OT game against the Jets with 4 TDs mixed in... then in the end, he is solid, but significantly more pedestrian.I dont have facts to back this up, so take it fwiw, but this is something I have stored in the FF memory bank.

 

[off]

Every year Brady seems to excel in the first half... good weather, higher scoring games. Then as the season gets into a playoff push, things get more conservative, games get tighter and weather gets worse.Not sure why this year would be any different. Brady first half of the season, running game second.

Don't forget that Stallworth's hammy will act up in the second half.

 

[bizkliz]

dont forget about kelley washington.

granted he's not moss/stallworth material, or even welker material for that matter. but he is 6'3 and can only add to brady's 2007 stat parade.

-biz-

 

[Farmer Fran]

I am concerned about the injury risks presented by Stallworth and Moss. Is Wes Welker the steal of this year's draft?

 

[duaneok66]

I am concerned about the injury risks presented by Stallworth and Moss. Is Wes Welker the steal of this year's draft?

Welker is a slot receiver no matter who's hurt . . .

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Watson was looking good...

Watson disappears too much and drops too many passes, like that TD pass he dropped.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Brady seems to already have great chemistry with Welker, and I would not at all be surprised is he is their leading WR when all is said and done.

 

[twitch]

I was kindof waiting to hear what exactly the "but" in the title of the post was. Might the "but" be that theyre going to be too dominant?? This D is absolutlely nasty, and they were playing last night without their 2 starting DEs Seymour and Warren. And Randy Moss and Kevin Faulk didnt even suit up. If Brady has one weakness from a fantasy persective, its that the Patriots may be too good, and often too conservative in their winning ways, to allow him to put up the monster #s that everyone is expecting. Of course youve got to expect top 5 #s, but 1 or 2? The incredible balance this team is likely to show between the run and the pass and the D simply may not allow that to happen.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Watson was looking good...

Watson disappears too much and drops too many passes, like that TD pass he dropped.

Watson was targeted 6 times last night including the one he dropped/had knocked down in the end zone, fwiw. I think the addition of NFL caliber wr's will really open up things for him underneath all season. Whether that translates into fantasy numbers, we'll see. I agree with your other comment about Welker. He just seems like the definition of what a Patriots player is - as silly as that sounds. For all the talk of Moss and Stallworth, I can easily see Welker being the best offensive addition to the Pats once all the chips are tallied.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

I was kindof waiting to hear what exactly the "but" in the title of the post was. Might the "but" be that theyre going to be too dominant?? This D is absolutlely nasty, and they were playing last night without their 2 starting DEs Seymour and Warren. And Randy Moss and Kevin Faulk didnt even suit up. If Brady has one weakness from a fantasy persective, its that the Patriots may be too good, and often too conservative in their winning ways, to allow him to put up the monster #s that everyone is expecting. Of course youve got to expect top 5 #s, but 1 or 2? The incredible balance this team is likely to show between the run and the pass and the D simply may not allow that to happen.

A QB's defense is usually a good indicator of the numbers he's able to put up and why I wouldn't be surprised to see guys like Manning, Palmer, Brees and Bulger ahead of Brady. Not because they're better necessarily, but because their defenses will force them to continue throwing well into the 3rd and 4th quarters. The Pats are freakin' loaded...and I think it will hurt Brady's 2nd half production.

 

[twitch]

I was kindof waiting to hear what exactly the "but" in the title of the post was. Might the "but" be that theyre going to be too dominant?? This D is absolutlely nasty, and they were playing last night without their 2 starting DEs Seymour and Warren. And Randy Moss and Kevin Faulk didnt even suit up. If Brady has one weakness from a fantasy persective, its that the Patriots may be too good, and often too conservative in their winning ways, to allow him to put up the monster #s that everyone is expecting. Of course youve got to expect top 5 #s, but 1 or 2? The incredible balance this team is likely to show between the run and the pass and the D simply may not allow that to happen.

A QB's defense is usually a good indicator of the numbers he's able to put up and why I wouldn't be surprised to see guys like Manning, Palmer, Brees and Bulger ahead of Brady. Not because they're better necessarily, but because their defenses will force them to continue throwing well into the 3rd and 4th quarters. The Pats are freakin' loaded...and I think it will hurt Brady's 2nd half production.

Exactly. And those games where New England's crushing teams at the half, and theyve done it with the RBs putting up the #s and scoring the TDs, Brady owners are going to suffer because the Pats have never been known to continue to light teams up when theyve got things under control. Its actually what hurt them last year in the playoffs against the Colts. Maybe they'll throw the conservatism out the window this year and try to beat everyone by 30......what are the chances??

 

[Vintage_Football]

Welker is deffinatly someone to keep an eye on for a possible steal in your draft. Like the Pats organization said, "We couldn't cover him last year, so we killed two birds with one stone.". With Brady being the type that won't always heave it up for Moss or Stallworth, that will leave the underneath routes for Welker to thrive. Watch for him to post 60-70 catches for 700-800 yards and maybe 3-5 tds. Solid numbers for a guy that flies under most peoples radars imo.

 

[Borat]

dont forget about kelley washington. granted he's not moss/stallworth material, or even welker material for that matter. but he is 6'3 and can only add to brady's 2007 stat parade.-biz-

This assumes Washington even makes the team. Right now, from everything I've observed and read, he's behind Moss, Stallworth, Welker, Troy Brown, Caldwell, and Gaffney. That's 6 right there. I'm assuming Chad Jackson ends up on the PUP and/or the IR this year, but if not, he's not going to be cut, which hurts Washington's chances even more.

 

[Vintage_Football]

This is true, I'd hate to think that KWashington doesn't deserve a spot there, but really who is he going to bump out? They wouldn't have re-signed Troy Brown for nothing, and he does bring another Welker type reciever for underneath routes. Washington might find himself out as quick as he got in if he doesn't start showing some reasons for the Pats to keep him. Even Jabar Gaffney proved he should be a Pat during training camp.

 

[GreekFreak]

From what I have seen, Donte Stallworth will be the clear #1 in NE this season

 

[AB in DC]

The ADP for both Moss and Stallworth are way too high. Frankly, I wouldn't count on either as a fantasy starter.

(a) Injury risk -- Both have missed time during training camp, plus Moss's age is a concern

(b) Brady's propensity to spread the ball around -- If defenses gameplan to take one of them out of the game, Brady will just throw to whoever's open

© Maroney/Morris grinding out yards on the ground -- especially in the second half of games that the Patriots lead

 

[Vintage_Football]

I figure that against the run and short routes Pats will dominate. It seemed to me though that the long ball and 15+ yd routes seemed to work for Carolina last night. If that keeps up into the season, and they don't work anything out with ASamuel, we could have a defense similiar (not identical) but similiar to the 05' Colts D. And we all know what came of that for Mannning.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Watching just the tail end of the first half and all of the 3rd quarter, Stallworth looked good. On the first drive of the 2nd half when all starters were still in, he made a nice adjustment on a poorly thrown deep ball by Brady. He was interfered with but still made the catch. He caught another couple of balls as well.

Cant read too much into this because it was after the starters had come out but I thought Kelly Washington looked really, really good. He is also playing ST on coverage teams so that helps him. A buddy of mine last night said, "Dont be surprised if Moss gets cut." I think that was just an irrational thought. I dont see any way Moss gets cut.

Locks

Welker

Stallworth

Moss

Caldwell

Gaffney

I think they will go with 6 WR's and it is between Brown and Washington. Tough call. They both have a certain level of versatility.

It looks like Jackson will be stored on the IR for this year.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I don't think Caldwell has a roster spot locked up.