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Brandon Marshall diagnosed w/ borderline personality disorder (1 Viewer)
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Also reported by Omar Kelly (via Redone.org):
Brandon Marshall diagnosed with borderline personality disorder
Dolphins wide receiver Brandon Marshall has been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, or BPD according to Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.
"BPD is a well understood psychological disorder. It's not a form of misbehavior," said Mary Zanarini, a professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School, who treated Marshall this summer.
BPD is a mental illness that studies say is more common than schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, but is rarely diagnosed because of misperceptions in the mental health community, and the challenges of providing a proper treatment plan.
The disorder is marked by difficulties with relationships and self-image and controlling moods and emotions.
http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/18672/Brandon-Marshall-diagnosed-with-borderline-personality-disorder/Default.aspx
Brandon Marshall diagnosed with borderline personality disorder
Dolphins wide receiver Brandon Marshall has been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, or BPD according to Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.
"BPD is a well understood psychological disorder. It's not a form of misbehavior," said Mary Zanarini, a professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School, who treated Marshall this summer.
BPD is a mental illness that studies say is more common than schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, but is rarely diagnosed because of misperceptions in the mental health community, and the challenges of providing a proper treatment plan.
The disorder is marked by difficulties with relationships and self-image and controlling moods and emotions.
http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/18672/Brandon-Marshall-diagnosed-with-borderline-personality-disorder/Default.aspx
identikit
Footballguy
Brandon Marshall diagnosed with borderline personality disorder
Dolphins receiver says proper diagnosis and treatment for a psychological disorder saved his life
By Omar Kelly, Sun Sentinel 6:18 p.m. EDT, July 30, 2011
Brandon Marshall has been holed up in the theater room of his new Southwest Ranches home for the better part of five days.
The home is grand and gorgeous, but the theater room is the world's loneliest. Even its sole occupant is unable to see himself.
He has been calm and introspective for hours talking about his disturbing childhood, dysfunctional family and the incident earlier that April week that led to the arrest of his wife Michi Nogami-Marshall for allegedly stabbing him during a domestic dispute.
Then, as if a switch had been flipped, Marshall's fuse is lit. The Miami Dolphins' star receiver becomes agitated — then deflated — after watching his lesser-known contemporary Calvin Johnson in a national television commercial.
It's the kind of gig Marshall always has desired, but will never receive because of a troublesome past, riddled with emotional outbursts and public disputes dating back to his days at UCF.
These days it's difficult to convince himself — much less the world — he's not volatile. It's hard to persuade people you're not a ticking time bomb when you've blown up so many times before.
Marshall has received counseling five different times, sometimes by NFL order. But all they really led to was more frustration.
"Count to 10! What's that going to do?" Marshall says. "I'm still angry when I'm finished."
Tick … tick … tick
Four years of therapy never helped Marshall gain a better understanding of his issues or how to deal with them. Until now.
After three months of treatment and therapy, psychological and neurological exams at Boston's McLean Hospital, the training ground for Harvard University medical students, Marshall believes he's finally at the root of his struggles.
He has been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, or BPD.
"BPD is a well understood psychological disorder. It's not a form of misbehavior," said Mary Zanarini, a professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School, who treated Marshall this summer.
BPD is a mental illness that studies say is more common than schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, but is rarely diagnosed because of misperceptions in the mental health community, and the challenges of providing a proper treatment plan.
The disorder is marked by difficulties with relationships and self-image and controlling moods and emotions.
During Marshall's treatment at McLean, he learned how to defuse the bomb inside of his head. Now with the tools and a new perspective he's returning to the real world, to the NFL, to a marriage he admittedly broke, and to a wife who feels vilified. He must use the skills he's learned to survive, if not thrive.
He has informed the Dolphins of his diagnosis and said he is revealing his story with the goal of creating more awareness of BPD and advocating for better treatment and medical coverage for a treatment program that cost him $60,000.
"By no means am I all healed or fixed," Marshall said, "but it's like a light bulbs been turned on in my dark room."
Tick … tick …
http://www.orlandose...0,4785086.story
Dolphins receiver says proper diagnosis and treatment for a psychological disorder saved his life
By Omar Kelly, Sun Sentinel 6:18 p.m. EDT, July 30, 2011
Brandon Marshall has been holed up in the theater room of his new Southwest Ranches home for the better part of five days.
The home is grand and gorgeous, but the theater room is the world's loneliest. Even its sole occupant is unable to see himself.
He has been calm and introspective for hours talking about his disturbing childhood, dysfunctional family and the incident earlier that April week that led to the arrest of his wife Michi Nogami-Marshall for allegedly stabbing him during a domestic dispute.
Then, as if a switch had been flipped, Marshall's fuse is lit. The Miami Dolphins' star receiver becomes agitated — then deflated — after watching his lesser-known contemporary Calvin Johnson in a national television commercial.
It's the kind of gig Marshall always has desired, but will never receive because of a troublesome past, riddled with emotional outbursts and public disputes dating back to his days at UCF.
These days it's difficult to convince himself — much less the world — he's not volatile. It's hard to persuade people you're not a ticking time bomb when you've blown up so many times before.
Marshall has received counseling five different times, sometimes by NFL order. But all they really led to was more frustration.
"Count to 10! What's that going to do?" Marshall says. "I'm still angry when I'm finished."
Tick … tick … tick
Four years of therapy never helped Marshall gain a better understanding of his issues or how to deal with them. Until now.
After three months of treatment and therapy, psychological and neurological exams at Boston's McLean Hospital, the training ground for Harvard University medical students, Marshall believes he's finally at the root of his struggles.
He has been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, or BPD.
"BPD is a well understood psychological disorder. It's not a form of misbehavior," said Mary Zanarini, a professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School, who treated Marshall this summer.
BPD is a mental illness that studies say is more common than schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, but is rarely diagnosed because of misperceptions in the mental health community, and the challenges of providing a proper treatment plan.
The disorder is marked by difficulties with relationships and self-image and controlling moods and emotions.
During Marshall's treatment at McLean, he learned how to defuse the bomb inside of his head. Now with the tools and a new perspective he's returning to the real world, to the NFL, to a marriage he admittedly broke, and to a wife who feels vilified. He must use the skills he's learned to survive, if not thrive.
He has informed the Dolphins of his diagnosis and said he is revealing his story with the goal of creating more awareness of BPD and advocating for better treatment and medical coverage for a treatment program that cost him $60,000.
"By no means am I all healed or fixed," Marshall said, "but it's like a light bulbs been turned on in my dark room."
Tick … tick …
http://www.orlandose...0,4785086.story
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Wow. Insensitive? This is a GOOD thing.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
It's like being a borderline diabetic as far as I'm concerned. He has borderline personality disorder....Psychology has lots of ways to diagnose people with mentall illness. Many people suffer mental illness. If he was diagnosed because he was seeking help or getting help then I am fine with it.
Brett Favre was addicted to painkillers in the 90s, almost derailed his career. I'm not going ot demonize Marhall for having some mild mentall instability. If he is getting help now then that's a good thing.
More people have a borderline personality disorder than you can probably imagine.
Here is some info for those wanting to know more
Borderline personality disorder is a condition in which people have long-term patterns of unstable or turbulent emotions, such as feelings about themselves and others.
These inner experiences often cause them to take impulsive actions and have chaotic relationships.
Causes, incidence, and risk factors
The causes of borderline personality disorder (BPD) are unknown. Genetic, family, and social factors are thought to play roles.
Risk factors for BPD include:
•Abandonment in childhood or adolescence
•Disrupted family life
•Poor communication in the family
•Sexual abuse
This personality disorder tends to occur more often in women and among hospitalized psychiatric patients.
Symptoms
People with BPD are often uncertain about their identity. As a result, their interests and values may change rapidly.
People with BPD also tend to see things in terms of extremes, such as either all good or all bad. Their views of other people may change quickly. A person who is looked up to one day may be looked down on the next day. These suddenly shifting feelings often lead to intense and unstable relationships.
Other symptoms of BPD include:
•Fear of being abandoned
•Feelings of emptiness and boredom
•Frequent displays of inappropriate anger
•Impulsiveness with money, substance abuse, sexual relationships, binge eating, or shoplifting
•Intolerance of being alone
•Repeated crises and acts of self-injury, such as wrist cutting or overdosing
Signs and tests
Like other personality disorders, BPD is diagnosed based on a psychological evaluation and the history and severity of the symptoms.
Treatment
Many types of individual talk therapy, such as dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT), can successfully treat BPD. In addition, group therapy can help change self-destructive behaviors.
In some cases, medications can help level mood swings and treat depression or other disorders that may occur with this condition.
Expectations (prognosis)
The outlook depends on how severe the condition is and whether the person is willing to accept help. With long-term talk therapy, the person will often gradually improve.
Complications
•Depression
•Drug abuse
•Problems with work, family, and social relationships
•Suicide attempts and actual suicide
Brett Favre was addicted to painkillers in the 90s, almost derailed his career. I'm not going ot demonize Marhall for having some mild mentall instability. If he is getting help now then that's a good thing.
More people have a borderline personality disorder than you can probably imagine.
Here is some info for those wanting to know more
Borderline personality disorder is a condition in which people have long-term patterns of unstable or turbulent emotions, such as feelings about themselves and others.
These inner experiences often cause them to take impulsive actions and have chaotic relationships.
Causes, incidence, and risk factors
The causes of borderline personality disorder (BPD) are unknown. Genetic, family, and social factors are thought to play roles.
Risk factors for BPD include:
•Abandonment in childhood or adolescence
•Disrupted family life
•Poor communication in the family
•Sexual abuse
This personality disorder tends to occur more often in women and among hospitalized psychiatric patients.
Symptoms
People with BPD are often uncertain about their identity. As a result, their interests and values may change rapidly.
People with BPD also tend to see things in terms of extremes, such as either all good or all bad. Their views of other people may change quickly. A person who is looked up to one day may be looked down on the next day. These suddenly shifting feelings often lead to intense and unstable relationships.
Other symptoms of BPD include:
•Fear of being abandoned
•Feelings of emptiness and boredom
•Frequent displays of inappropriate anger
•Impulsiveness with money, substance abuse, sexual relationships, binge eating, or shoplifting
•Intolerance of being alone
•Repeated crises and acts of self-injury, such as wrist cutting or overdosing
Signs and tests
Like other personality disorders, BPD is diagnosed based on a psychological evaluation and the history and severity of the symptoms.
Treatment
Many types of individual talk therapy, such as dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT), can successfully treat BPD. In addition, group therapy can help change self-destructive behaviors.
In some cases, medications can help level mood swings and treat depression or other disorders that may occur with this condition.
Expectations (prognosis)
The outlook depends on how severe the condition is and whether the person is willing to accept help. With long-term talk therapy, the person will often gradually improve.
Complications
•Depression
•Drug abuse
•Problems with work, family, and social relationships
•Suicide attempts and actual suicide
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Show me a top flight receiver without mental issues. More have than dont
funny how other teams are announcing awesome free agent signings and trades. The Dolphins are announcing their #1 WR is mental and they pick up a sorry ### yourneyman QB in Matt Moore....way to go Dolphins...just proving that your organization is pitiful.
Sucks to be a Dolphin fan nowadays...I'm one of them.
Sucks to be a Dolphin fan nowadays...I'm one of them.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Only borderline? That's the only part that surprises me.
Jewell
Footballguy
I thought Amy Winehouse dying young was the least shocking news ever, but Brandon Marshall having a personality order may beat it.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Yep, sort of like announcing that water is wet.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I have a support group thread up right now. Should be on page 1 or 2 of the SP, please check in there and add to the misery.
Agreed. I know someone with BPD and once he went on the meds he was a completely different person - he's now doing great, so hopefully Marshall will be able to do the same.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
'cobalt_27 said:
My ex has BPD. All kinds of crazy. I agree with Jewell that this news is not that shocking. Here's hoping he gets better.baconisgood
Footballguy
It is still big news that they have diagnosed him + he feels he is responding to treatment- especially without drugs (at least drugs weren't mentioned).
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
Anyone else catch this?'identikit said:
If he thinks he's more popular than Megatron then they may as well add 'delusional' to the diagnosis while they're at it.
gianmarco
Footballguy
That statement is complete nonsense. Borderline isn't a descriptor of it being "kinda" or "on the fence" of having a personality disorder.
el-gato-grande
Footballguy
I thought he had Borderline WR1 disorder. 
baconisgood
Footballguy
It doesn't say popular, it says lessor known. In terms of notoriety Marshall is way better know than Megatron.Anyone else catch this?'identikit said:
Good point. And Pacman Jones is better known than Revis. And for the same reasons.It doesn't say popular, it says lessor known. In terms of notoriety Marshall is way better know than Megatron.Anyone else catch this?'identikit said:
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
My sister-in-law has BPD. She is impossible to interact with most days. It's a nightmare. I don't understand how my brother-in-law has been able to deal with it all this time. He's a changed man, and not in a good way. It's pretty much destroyed him as well. There is no cure for BPD and treatment is only minimally effective. It's a really strange illness. Everyone in our family has had to deal with her illness, and it's not been pleasant.
Mark Wimer
Moderator
I, too, have had experience dealing with a person who had BPD among a panoply of mental illnesses (also suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and a big-time narcissist). The worst thing about the disease, as some of the descriptions earlier in the thread alluded to, was that people with BPD change their opinion about other people seemingly at random. They may love and cherish a person one morning, and then hate and revile them that afternoon, and then apparently be at a loss/hurt when the person who was hated and reviled on in the afternoon doesn't want to go shopping at the mall with them during the evening. There is literally NO stability or constancy in a relationship when one of the persons suffers from BPD. People so afflicted are indeed "all kinds of crazy", in my experience.
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ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
well WTF were team doctors doing for his entire career? i only see this guy play on sundays and read his name in the blotters and i knew something was wrong with his melon. reminds me of hedo turkoglu finally getting his disfigured nose fixed and team doctors saying he should be breathing better now
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
They have a name for everything these days. Some would say, just throw some drugs at it and everything will be alright. The root cause is probably related to poor parenting. Everyone is either Bipolar, ADD, ADHD, or just name your own mental illness. So many mental illnesses are misdiagnosed and depression medicines are too easily distributed IMO. My granddaughter was diagnosed as ADHD and tested at the Mayo Clinic, so there are valid cases, but so many are not diagnosed correctly. To be honest I've never heard of BPD until today with this thread. Like I said, there's a name for everything these days.
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Lots of FBG psychiatrists in here.
DanFouts
Footballguy
Psychiatrist here. Borderline PD is NOT a new diagnosis. The descriptors for this personality disorder have been around for a LONG time. If anything, lots of people diagnosed with Bipolar II disorder are more likely borderline PD. Kudos to the Mclean psych hospital for calling it like they saw it. Borderline PD has a big stigma in the psych world as lots of mental health docs don't like these patients/they are hard t deal with.Just my 2 cents....
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Hi Gian,With respect to your post I am gettng tired of people saying things are nonsense. I just finished up a psychology dual major at the Univ of Miami and I posted the definition along wth ID Kit too and you can see that it clearly is "Unknown"...the cause, the definition, the entire idea is very diffiult to pin down to anything so it's not nonsense, it's my interpretation of the "Known" facts. Not mad Gian, just tired of people providing no meat but making huge blanket statements on my posts. If you have better facts bring 'em, if you are a Psyciatrist with a practice please share, otherwise it's mostly opinion and interpretation, that's all I'm trying to post back at you with. I respect most folks POV even if I needle for deeper opinions from some. Thanks
bonesman
Footballguy
:X
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Perhaps your viewpoint is valid but the way in which you presented it was - and is - total nonsense.Just like Hoss showing some extreme ignorance. I'm fascinated by old farts who think if it wasn't something they knew about then it's some kind of new fangled bs.Hi Gian,With respect to your post I am gettng tired of people saying things are nonsense. I just finished up a psychology dual major at the Univ of Miami and I posted the definition along wth ID Kit too and you can see that it clearly is "Unknown"...the cause, the definition, the entire idea is very diffiult to pin down to anything so it's not nonsense, it's my interpretation of the "Known" facts. Not mad Gian, just tired of people providing no meat but making huge blanket statements on my posts. If you have better facts bring 'em, if you are a Psyciatrist with a practice please share, otherwise it's mostly opinion and interpretation, that's all I'm trying to post back at you with. I respect most folks POV even if I needle for deeper opinions from some. Thanks
a_troll00
Footballguy
For everyone laughing about this, BPD/NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) is no joke at all. This is the first time I've heard of a male having the condition, but I guess it really is possible. I have a friend with the condition and it's painful to watch her completely self destruct. There are lots of times when I want absolutely nothing to do with her, and it's difficult to watch her drive everyone else out of her life. At the same time, it doesn't feel right to abandon her completely. It's a condition that destroys friendships, families, and marriages.
kinglochness
Footballguy
The recptionist just called. Ochocinco and Randy Moss are in the waiting room.'dickey moe said:
gianmarco
Footballguy
You posted the definition of it but your interpretation and description of it is simply off. Can you please explain how it equates to being a borderline diabetic other than they both contain the word borderline? Borderline diabetic = On the cusp of developing diabetes, almost diabetic, likely to progress to diabetes. i.e., the word borderline means what we usually take it to meanBorderline personality disorder != On the cusp of developing a personality disorder. It IS a personality disorder and one of the most difficult ones to deal with and treat. The word borderline here does NOT mean what you made it sound like here.'Ministry of Pain said:Hi Gian,With respect to your post I am gettng tired of people saying things are nonsense. I just finished up a psychology dual major at the Univ of Miami and I posted the definition along wth ID Kit too and you can see that it clearly is "Unknown"...the cause, the definition, the entire idea is very diffiult to pin down to anything so it's not nonsense, it's my interpretation of the "Known" facts. Not mad Gian, just tired of people providing no meat but making huge blanket statements on my posts. If you have better facts bring 'em, if you are a Psyciatrist with a practice please share, otherwise it's mostly opinion and interpretation, that's all I'm trying to post back at you with. I respect most folks POV even if I needle for deeper opinions from some. Thanks'gianmarco said:
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identikit
Footballguy
But, but he has a dual major....You posted the definition of it but your interpretation and description of it is simply off. Can you please explain how it equates to being a borderline diabetic other than they both contain the word borderline? Borderline diabetic = On the cusp of developing diabetes, almost diabetic, likely to progress to diabetes. i.e., the word borderline means what we usually take it to mean'Ministry of Pain said:Hi Gian,With respect to your post I am gettng tired of people saying things are nonsense. I just finished up a psychology dual major at the Univ of Miami and I posted the definition along wth ID Kit too and you can see that it clearly is "Unknown"...the cause, the definition, the entire idea is very diffiult to pin down to anything so it's not nonsense, it's my interpretation of the "Known" facts. Not mad Gian, just tired of people providing no meat but making huge blanket statements on my posts. If you have better facts bring 'em, if you are a Psyciatrist with a practice please share, otherwise it's mostly opinion and interpretation, that's all I'm trying to post back at you with. I respect most folks POV even if I needle for deeper opinions from some.'gianmarco said:
Thanks
Borderline personality disorder != On the cusp of developing a personality disorder. It IS a personality disorder and one of the most difficult ones to deal with and treat. The word borderline here does NOT mean what you made it sound like here.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
I am a psychologist (neuropsychologist), so let me see if I can help here. The term "borderline" was first introduced in 1938 by Adolf Stern to describe patients who did not really fit within the standard concept of "neurotic" or "psychotic." Stern labeled them as suffering from a "borderline group of neuroses." Over time, the term has evolved to connote this this "intermediate" level of severity of personality functioning. He was describing folks who had intact reasoning, intellect, etc., but clearly had dysfunctional regulation of emotion and deteriorated substantially under stress. The term now is used now to label a very heterogeneous/variable group of patients who exhibit marked instability in regulating intense negative emotions, have unstable sense of self and relationships, and have marked problems with impulsivity that can include alcohol and druge use, and/or engaging in suicidal or parasuicidal acts.So, I think while I understand your connection to borderline diabetics in that the disorder describes some intermediate between normal and pathological, that's really more of a historical relic. Put it this way, BPD is treated far more seriously in psychology/psychiatry than borderline diabetes is regarded in medicine. It's of concern, of course, but many borderline diabetics don't receive or need direct treatment. The opposite is true with this particular personality disorder. They can be among the most difficult patients to treat. The diagnosis itself is often regarded as pejorative and carries with it an intensely negative stigma. Hope that helps.'Ministry of Pain said:Hi Gian,With respect to your post I am gettng tired of people saying things are nonsense. I just finished up a psychology dual major at the Univ of Miami and I posted the definition along wth ID Kit too and you can see that it clearly is "Unknown"...the cause, the definition, the entire idea is very diffiult to pin down to anything so it's not nonsense, it's my interpretation of the "Known" facts. Not mad Gian, just tired of people providing no meat but making huge blanket statements on my posts. If you have better facts bring 'em, if you are a Psyciatrist with a practice please share, otherwise it's mostly opinion and interpretation, that's all I'm trying to post back at you with. I respect most folks POV even if I needle for deeper opinions from some. Thanks'gianmarco said:
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
TY CobaltI am a psychologist (neuropsychologist), so let me see if I can help here. The term "borderline" was first introduced in 1938 by Adolf Stern to describe patients who did not really fit within the standard concept of "neurotic" or "psychotic." Stern labeled them as suffering from a "borderline group of neuroses." Over time, the term has evolved to connote this this "intermediate" level of severity of personality functioning. He was describing folks who had intact reasoning, intellect, etc., but clearly had dysfunctional regulation of emotion and deteriorated substantially under stress. The term now is used now to label a very heterogeneous/variable group of patients who exhibit marked instability in regulating intense negative emotions, have unstable sense of self and relationships, and have marked problems with impulsivity that can include alcohol and druge use, and/or engaging in suicidal or parasuicidal acts.So, I think while I understand your connection to borderline diabetics in that the disorder describes some intermediate between normal and pathological, that's really more of a historical relic. Put it this way, BPD is treated far more seriously in psychology/psychiatry than borderline diabetes is regarded in medicine. It's of concern, of course, but many borderline diabetics don't receive or need direct treatment. The opposite is true with this particular personality disorder. They can be among the most difficult patients to treat. The diagnosis itself is often regarded as pejorative and carries with it an intensely negative stigma. Hope that helps.'Ministry of Pain said:Hi Gian,With respect to your post I am gettng tired of people saying things are nonsense. I just finished up a psychology dual major at the Univ of Miami and I posted the definition along wth ID Kit too and you can see that it clearly is "Unknown"...the cause, the definition, the entire idea is very diffiult to pin down to anything so it's not nonsense, it's my interpretation of the "Known" facts. Not mad Gian, just tired of people providing no meat but making huge blanket statements on my posts. If you have better facts bring 'em, if you are a Psyciatrist with a practice please share, otherwise it's mostly opinion and interpretation, that's all I'm trying to post back at you with. I respect most folks POV even if I needle for deeper opinions from some. Thanks'gianmarco said:
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That's right and proud of it. I worked my tail off to get it, tyvm
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I read this book when I was dating someone with BPD. I found it to be fairly helpful. I recommend it to anyone who is curious but doesn't have the time to get a dual major in psychology.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380713055?ie=UTF8&tag=peakclick-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0380713055
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380713055?ie=UTF8&tag=peakclick-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0380713055
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
? for the psychs in here. What's the difference between being BPD and just being a lazy, irresponsible, self absorbed and impulsive #######? I am being serious.
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Mark Wimer
Moderator
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Nobody wants to go there. It's easier if we can find something medically wrong with them. It's more politically correct.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Different pople have different opinions. Let me share this from my recent academics and please understand that I don't think I have any strong answers. And neither did Carl Jung in his collection of work titled "Modern Man in Search of a Soul". In my Persnality Disorders class I had a forensic psychologist teach it and I would later work for him in his private practice outside of school. He did not assign any of the modern textbooks which he seemd to have several different ones in his personal library sent to him from people wanting him to use it in his classroom. When I asked him why he didn't teach out of one of them and instead assigns readings like Carl Jung's book, he replied that so much of it is unknown that many of the orginal pionerers like Jung have more substantial info than a lot of the new textbooks that are being taught on college campuses around the country. (Dr Awesome-New fangled BS)This is turning more into an FFA thread but lets not forget that the practice of labotomies was not that long ago. I constantly questioned the materals in this "science" and the answers are not even close to bulletproof. I'm fascinated within the field of psychology but I also feel strongly that a lot of damage happens within it as well. I could say the same about cancer treatments too. I understand why folks would fly off the handle when I make a connection to borderine diabetic. But treatment for that is mostly lay off the sweets and work on a proper diet and exercise...and now I am going to share some personal observations and feelngs about what I feel clears up a lot of borderline personality disorder...diet/exercise/good sleep. You can laugh all you want, totally understand becaue we are talking about Brandon Marshall who is a physical specimen and probably has a healthy diet and exercise program. It is possible that Marshall was even worse than BPD...Ron Artest certainly had a full blown Personality Disorder IMO and its not easy to share with the world...perhaps Marshall chose to say BPD when in fact he has a stronger diagnosis. There are some assumptions in there but I understand that POV. A lot of the folks that do get diagnosed with BPD though from my experience tend to be folks that are not dialed in to their physical health and it starts leaking over into the mental world. I can't prove it but I can tell you that folks I meet who have issues clear up a lot of things in the world of stress by maintaining their diet and exercise(simple walking is fine). I'm not saying that is 100% across the board the answer to all prayers, that would be silly. But it is amazing how folks who eat right, are active, make a decent living, can socially adapt to their surrounding...these folks don't have that many problems. If I wanted to I could probably label tons of people we all come in contact with everyday who have BPD. In California I can walk into a doctor's office and if I try hard enough I can get a prescription for medicinal marijauna by saying that I can't sleep at night and am feeling stressed. That may be true but how do you define if someone is truly stressed? You have to take them at their word based on what they tell you...put it another way, most fetishes(sexual ones) are not deemed any problem until the person with the fetish raises their hand and seeks help. I feel similar about BPD. I know there are folks that have it or worse but unless they tell someone about it they probably will not be diagnosed. Take that vs a disease like cancer where even if a person doesn' know they have it or won't tell anyone eventyually they become so physically ill they are taken to the doctor and he/she scientifically proves or shows that they have cancer based on his/her ability to see into the body...how do you see into the mind or thoughts? It's difficult and I'm sure over he next 300-500 years science wil invent some type of device to reach deep into the mind and extract information so we can see who is mentally disturbed. But for now there is a lot of "Unknown". I apologize if I offended the science community, was not my intent.
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Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Your ignorance is painful and stunning to watch. I like how you claim these medical treatments are mostly bs though you conveniently admit your granddaughter actually has ADHD because she was tested by professionals. Brandon Marshall was diagnosed by who exactly? Some guy at the bar?Who said folks with BPD are lazy?
Here's a link that goes over some basics of BPD: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001931/
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