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Braylon Edwards (1 Viewer)
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One WR that has come back from an ACL is Rice - in the same year no less. He did get banged up again when he came back though, so he may have rushed it. He was pretty old when it happened.Lee Evans tore an ACL in college and he seems like he recovered all of his speed and is a good prospect.Compared to RB's, it isn't all that common of an injury in WR's. How many top WR's do you actually remember tearing their ACL's?
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Braylon Edwards tore his ACL late in 2005.He probably doesn't play until late 2006.He doesn't play a full season when healthy until 2007.They say you don't complete your recovery until the second year - 2008.Heading into 2009, he should have his first season under his belt as a fully healthy WR, from which we can grade him.2009.Its going to be a long time before we figure out what Edwards is.
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I'm wondering if he'll be worth keeping. I traded up to draft him late in the 1st round of our dynasty draft this year, and he'll be cheap, but I wonder if I can hold the roster spot that long...
SuperJohn96
RPS World Champion
LMAO @ this Yatil Green "tribute" page...
Yatil! More like Yatear.
thanks for providing his name. it was sort of bugging me.
Yatil! More like Yatear.
thanks for providing his name. it was sort of bugging me.
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KillerNerd
Footballguy
Amnesiac is a Cleveland fan, take HIM with a grain of salt.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Jerry Rice did, IIRC.
DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
I tore my ACL in 1995 and I'm still not back in the NFL.
jerry jones
Footballguy
Both Marcus Robinson & Germane Crowel suffered knee injuries in 2001 (game 5) , neither fully recovered IMO.A little more research ...Derrick Alexander, Minnesotta Nov 4th 2002, Torn ACLTyrone Calico, Tennesee, Oct 2004, Torn Cartilage & ACLMarc Boerigter, KC, August 2004, Torn ACLPatrick Jeffers, Carolina, 2000 ?, Knee ?Joey Galloway, Dallas, 2000 ?, KneeMichael Westbrook, Was, 2000 ? KneeReche Caldwell, SD 2004, Torn ACLDrew Carter, CAR June 2004 ? Torn ACL (Torn ACL at Ohio in 2003 ?)Anquan Boldin, Arizona, Summer 2001? or at FSU in 2000Yatil Green, Miami 1997 ( believe he managed 3 torn ACLs total)Lee Evans, Buffalo, at Wisconsin in 2002 ?This year ..Mark Bradley CHIBraylon Edwards, CLEBrandon Jones, TENJavon Walker, GBA quote from somewhere on the WEB ..."Other receivers who have come back from ACL tears either in college or the pros and played effectively include Amani Toomer, Joey Galloway, Reggie Wayne, Bobby Engram and Anquan Boldin. Tennessee's Tyrone Calico has returned this season.There are, however, receivers who have never been the same, among them Rob Moore, Marcus Robinson, Sylvester Morris, Derrick Alexander, David Boston and Kevin Dyson."My Take,While reading the articles associated with some of the injuries above it seems thatrecovery from ACL surgery is improving, your chances of returning to pre-injury status from a tear in 2005, is much better than in 2000, or 1995. However, it seems the recovery depends on 3 items, The severity of the injury, the commitment to rehab, and the age of the injured.For the players injured in 2005, training camp and preseason news will be very telling on their commitment to rehab. News of setbacks, or delays in recovery will be the indicators that perhaps their commitment to rehabbing is not all it should be.
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Carter_Can_Fly
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Absolutely hated seeing J. Walker tearing his ACL, but it couldn't have happened at a better time. First week of the season allows for him to have plenty of time to return to his old form heading into next season. Just need B. Favre to stick around for another year or two.
Chaos
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Braylon's success depends in large measure to how the Cleveland QB situation shakes out.Assuming Frye is the annointed starter, he showed something to me when he took the reigns late last season. If he can continue to build on that experience AND Cleveland can start putting together more than a rag-tag O-Line I think both his and Braylon's futures are bright.
jerseyh8r
Footballguy
Nicely done, good post. The severity of the injury only matters in extreme situations. One of those was Robert Edwards (RB)...he had nerve and arterial damage with his injury. The severity of the tears themselves or how gruesome it may look are not of themselves determining factors b/c the ligaments get replaced, so they can tear them all they like, they are getting new ones. Age certainly plays a roll, but shouldn't make a huge difference between 25 and 35, 25 and 50 would be signifiacnt enough, but I haven't seen any 50 yr old WRs of late, so that is probably a moot point.
So that leaves the medical processes (surgery and rehab as the most important). The rehab should take approximately 6 months. After 4-5 months, the ligament itself is fully healed....from that point forward it is how strong the athlete can get and how stable they can make the joint with those muscles (without setbacks such as tendonitis) that determines how quickly they can come back from the procedure.
The 2 year rule traditionally only applies to RBs b/c it takes time to build up confidence and that "feeling" in the knee that allows them to be ellusive with lateral moves. Such moves may limit more shifty WRs like SMoss, SSmith, or DHall, but shouldn't be a factor for someone like Edwards. If the papers are positive this summer, he will be worth a pick if you liked him before the injury.
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toxicbees
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I tore my ACL almost exactly 2 years ago. One thing I can tell you is that the knee is never the same post injury. With lots of rehab, and a high pain tolerance you can make it close to 95% of what your pre-injury knee was, but it will NEVER be 100%. For most atheletes just losing 5% effectiveness in one knee is enough to make a difference in their game.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
There's a difference between being able to get on the field and playing at 100%. Even the Browns' management has said they hope Edwards is back in October, so I put little stock in an agent's opinion (unless he went to med school).
ChampBailey24
Footballguy
Heh, I think that the main factor is the heart. Robert Edwards now plays for my team, the Montreal Alouettes (CFL) and he's great. The best running back in the CFL. Wait 2-3 years and that guy will be back in the NFL.
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When he comes back will change alot from now til the summer. It's basically "he's progressing well in rehab so I'd expect him to return...this date." Rehab is a funny thing in that some exercises come easily and some are oh so difficult and it totally depends on the individual too. Just sit tight.
FWIW alot of receivers mentioned above were significantly older than Braylon and it is not the same. In theory McGahee should have never done as well as he did a year ago. Boldin was pretty awesome post surgery and IIRC so was Faulk.
FWIW alot of receivers mentioned above were significantly older than Braylon and it is not the same. In theory McGahee should have never done as well as he did a year ago. Boldin was pretty awesome post surgery and IIRC so was Faulk.
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
So that leaves the medical processes (surgery and rehab as the most important). The rehab should take approximately 6 months. After 4-5 months, the ligament itself is fully healed....from that point forward it is how strong the athlete can get and how stable they can make the joint with those muscles (without setbacks such as tendonitis) that determines how quickly they can come back from the procedure.
IMO, can be back in a year. 50/50 if they are ever 100%. Based on people I know in the field.first of all the time period of months and training camp don't jive. Second of all, no one "in the field" has said such a thing for like 10-15 yearsMarcus Robinson had back problems
isn't helping though
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
I don't believe lifestyle and lucky genetics has been mentioned. Dedication to rehab may assume a healthy lifestyle before and during the rehab. Some athletes are dedicated to good health for football ala Jerry Rice, while other athletes are not as dedicated or worse, self destructive with addictive drugs and risky behavior like motorcycles and reckless driving.
Genetics and lifestyle affect the healing rate and/or risk of reinjury. I may have taken that for granted.
Age may be partially reflective of a longer period of self abuse or just not taking optimal care of their body.
That make Rice and guys like him pretty special.
Genetics and lifestyle affect the healing rate and/or risk of reinjury. I may have taken that for granted.
Age may be partially reflective of a longer period of self abuse or just not taking optimal care of their body.That make Rice and guys like him pretty special.
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MLBrandow
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He ain't a mathematician, that's for sure.But he still makes a good point. If I might make a few presumptions for BGP, and take where he was going and just adjust his numbers slightly:
Edwards tore his ACL late in 2005.
He probably doesn't play until late 2006.
He doesn't play a full season when healthy until 2007.
They say you don't complete your recovery until the second year - 2007.
Heading into 2008, he should have his first season under his belt as a fully healthy WR, from which we can grade him.
That gives us two years. I think that was his point.
I agree with him, minus the trivial math flub that is conducive of being up at this hour on a weeknight
(presuming he is EST like all the cool people).
