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Breaking Bad on AMC (5 Viewers)

Watching season 2 now. It's funny to see this thread at 132 pages, but reading it early on there's 1 or 2 comments for each episode.

Great show, looking forward to catching up.

 
So with the yapping between Skylar and Marie - it is just a matter of time before the idiot confides in Marie and Marie confides in Hank. Meanwhile Jesse is going to be extremely distraught over what happened after the heist. He is going to want out. Mike and Walt do not work and play well togehter - sides will be taken. Walt says he wants an empire and he has already sold his soul. Makes sense if Walt takes on Todd as his new protege. Mike will respond by siding with Jesse...which leaves Lydia who has already put a hit on Mike and others. So what f Lydia goes against the grain and sides with Mike and Jesse - which explains why Walt needed the weapon. Walt is slowly becoming Fring and no will be the hunted, not the hunter. I think we are in for a wild ride as all of this plays out. Where does Skylar, Lilly, Junior, Hank, Marie, Gomez, etc. fit in - sides will have to be taken. Looking forward to it.

 
Watching season 2 now. It's funny to see this thread at 132 pages, but reading it early on there's 1 or 2 comments for each episode. Great show, looking forward to catching up.
This has to be the messiest TV-show-related thread we've ever seen. I won't say "worst" because it's somehow (mildly) entertaining.
 
Watching season 2 now. It's funny to see this thread at 132 pages, but reading it early on there's 1 or 2 comments for each episode. Great show, looking forward to catching up.
This has to be the messiest TV-show-related thread we've ever seen. I won't say "worst" because it's somehow (mildly) entertaining.
Is it worth following? Usually I find the tv show threads here to be pretty good.
 
Watching season 2 now. It's funny to see this thread at 132 pages, but reading it early on there's 1 or 2 comments for each episode. Great show, looking forward to catching up.
This has to be the messiest TV-show-related thread we've ever seen. I won't say "worst" because it's somehow (mildly) entertaining.
Is it worth following? Usually I find the tv show threads here to be pretty good.
You are only in season 2 now? Hell no. Don't bother catching up in the thread. You'll just get frustrated.
 
What I would recommend in the alternative is to read Sepinwall's reviews after each episode. His site has switched hosts three different times, so simply Google "Sepinwall" + "[title of episode]" and the review will come up quickly.

 
Watching season 2 now. It's funny to see this thread at 132 pages, but reading it early on there's 1 or 2 comments for each episode. Great show, looking forward to catching up.
This has to be the messiest TV-show-related thread we've ever seen. I won't say "worst" because it's somehow (mildly) entertaining.
Is it worth following? Usually I find the tv show threads here to be pretty good.
You are only in season 2 now? Hell no. Don't bother catching up in the thread. You'll just get frustrated.
Agreed. The show will be a lot better if you don't spoil it. You're not missing much here. We'll have RN collect the highlights when it's all over.
 
Watching season 2 now. It's funny to see this thread at 132 pages, but reading it early on there's 1 or 2 comments for each episode. Great show, looking forward to catching up.
This has to be the messiest TV-show-related thread we've ever seen. I won't say "worst" because it's somehow (mildly) entertaining.
Is it worth following? Usually I find the tv show threads here to be pretty good.
You are only in season 2 now? Hell no. Don't bother catching up in the thread. You'll just get frustrated.
Agreed. The show will be a lot better if you don't spoil it. You're not missing much here. We'll have RN collect the highlights when it's all over.
Most of it will be "The Best of Flynn"
 
Watching season 2 now. It's funny to see this thread at 132 pages, but reading it early on there's 1 or 2 comments for each episode. Great show, looking forward to catching up.
This has to be the messiest TV-show-related thread we've ever seen. I won't say "worst" because it's somehow (mildly) entertaining.
:goodposting: I would say worst as it is almost unreadable yet I find myself in here about twice a week. I find it is good for about 1.5 pages after each episode then quickly turns to crap. I also like checking out the last page the day of a new episode. That is why I am here now. :hophead:
 
Watching season 2 now. It's funny to see this thread at 132 pages, but reading it early on there's 1 or 2 comments for each episode. Great show, looking forward to catching up.
This has to be the messiest TV-show-related thread we've ever seen. I won't say "worst" because it's somehow (mildly) entertaining.
Is it worth following? Usually I find the tv show threads here to be pretty good.
You are only in season 2 now? Hell no. Don't bother catching up in the thread. You'll just get frustrated.
Agreed. The show will be a lot better if you don't spoil it. You're not missing much here. We'll have RN collect the highlights when it's all over.
To be clear, what I meant here was read the thread as I go along, not in advance. I've done that for a few shows (Boardwalk Empire) and it's interesting to see people's thoughts as you go along. But I'll just skip it this time.
 
Watching season 2 now. It's funny to see this thread at 132 pages, but reading it early on there's 1 or 2 comments for each episode.

Great show, looking forward to catching up.
This has to be the messiest TV-show-related thread we've ever seen. I won't say "worst" because it's somehow (mildly) entertaining.
:goodposting: I would say worst as it is almost unreadable yet I find myself in here about twice a week. I find it is good for about 1.5 pages after each episode then quickly turns to fwap fwap fwap fwap fwap. I also like checking out the last page the day of a new episode. That is why I am here now. :hophead:
FIFY
 
So with the yapping between Skylar and Marie - it is just a matter of time before the idiot confides in Marie and Marie confides in Hank. Meanwhile Jesse is going to be extremely distraught over what happened after the heist. He is going to want out. Mike and Walt do not work and play well togehter - sides will be taken. Walt says he wants an empire and he has already sold his soul. Makes sense if Walt takes on Todd as his new protege. Mike will respond by siding with Jesse...which leaves Lydia who has already put a hit on Mike and others. So what f Lydia goes against the grain and sides with Mike and Jesse - which explains why Walt needed the weapon. Walt is slowly becoming Fring and no will be the hunted, not the hunter. I think we are in for a wild ride as all of this plays out. Where does Skylar, Lilly, Junior, Hank, Marie, Gomez, etc. fit in - sides will have to be taken. Looking forward to it.
Shooting that child will cause dissention among the ranks ...that incident is the begining of the end .
 
Can someone do some analysis on who was in this thread for the first 4 seasons and then seperate that from who came in during the 5th? This thread was perfectly fine until this season...specifically the "post spoilers for the previews" and the "friday night lights" crowd.jesus christ
Jesus dropped out after the great spoiler tag controversy that ate up about 76 pages of this thread. I don't think he's coming back.
 
Continued storyline

Bryan Cranston has hinted that the series may continue after the season 5 finale, stating "Vince (Gilligan) feels that now we have too much story. We could actually go beyond those 16 episodes. It's not far-fetched. I wouldn't mind visiting that possibility. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't know anything of how the show's going to end. If it doesn't end up in a total apocalypse, who knows? Maybe we could revisit Walter White a year down the road and see where his life has gone. If he's still alive, that is."[50]

At Comic-Con 2012, Gilligan addressed the possibility, saying: "I love the idea of it [...] But I have to say that my writers and I intend to tell every bit of story we can tell in this final sixteen. So, at this moment in time, I would say that the odds are a bit remote. If we were [to] – a year or two down the line – think of something else [...], who knows? Your guess is as good as mine at this point."[51]

He later clarified in an interview on July 18, 2012, that he has no plans for a film, and that Cranston's remarks are the only thing fueling the speculation.[52] But Gilligan has also hinted at a possible spin-off series focusing on lawyer character Saul Goodman.[52]

Cast member Betsy Brandt told TODAY.com that, "[t]here is a big director that would like to direct the last episode as a movie and put it in theaters

 
Can someone do some analysis on who was in this thread for the first 4 seasons and then seperate that from who came in during the 5th? This thread was perfectly fine until this season...specifically the "post spoilers for the previews" and the "friday night lights" crowd.jesus christ
Jesus dropped out after the great spoiler tag controversy that ate up about 76 pages of this thread. I don't think he's coming back.
You doubt the resurrection?
 
is it believable that mike would be that sloppy when restraining Walt? Weak writing IMO in an otherwise solid episode
Agreed - you'd also think that Walt would be packing heat by now.Makes no sense that he think he's the meth kingpin on the world and doesn't carry a weapon on him.
 
"Jesse, you asked me if I was in the meth business or the money business. Neither. I'm in the empire business." -Walt

After a couple of episodes in a row where team "Breaking Bad" was in absolute command of its instrument, "Buyout" feels a bit more muddled. There are incredible individual components — the pre-credits sequence, Walt's improvised blowtorch, even another awkward meal at the White house — but they didn't entirely work together.

Where I had previously expressed concern about the season's pacing in the context of discussing episodes I had otherwise liked, "Buyout" is the first one that really feels like it's fallen victim to this 8-episode structure. The separate pieces were all excellent, but arguably shouldn't have all been part of the same episode, and likely wouldn't have been in a 13-episode batch.

Specifically, it felt like we moved much too quickly from the utter despair of the corpse disposal sequence to Mike and Jesse's decision to cash out and retire, and then from there to the comedy of discomfort as Jesse tried to make small talk in the middle of the cold war between Walt and Skyler. The stories flowed from each other — Mike and Jesse's decision, for instance, comes directly from the realization that they no longer want to be in a business where things like Drew Sharp's murder happen — but everything happened in such rapid order that none of the emotions really had time to breathe after that incredible opening scene.(*)

(*) What made it so great — beyond the performances by Cranston, Banks, Plemons and Paul, beyond the wise decision to drop out all ambient noise and accompany it entirely by the musical score — was how it built on work the show had done previously. We've seen Walt and Jesse get rid of enough bodies this way that it can now be used as a joke (Jesse's first line in "Box Cutter") or here to prepare us for absolute heartbreak. Because we know how this process works, we watch them break down the dirtbike, piece by piece, and we know exactly why they're doing it — just as we know what's going to come next (and with a boy so small they won't even need to break him down into his component parts to fit him into a plastic drum). Devastating.

You could argue that we've already seen the show play the "Jesse goes into a multi-episode funk over a relative innocent's death" card so often that it would have been repetitive to do it again. And yet because we know how Jesse Pinkman ticks, it didn't feel right to have him back to being relatively well-adjusted (if still seeking retirement) midway through the episode, and even playing the role of Eddie Haskell ("You have a lovely home") in his second-ever encounter with Mrs. White. I laughed during the uncomfortable dinner, but I found myself wishing that I wasn't — and not just because Aaron Paul excels whenever Jesse is drowning in guilt. (Case in point: the shot of him staring at the TV set after he sees the news report about the search for Drew.)

The best moments of "Buyout" were the ones that built on how well we know these characters and how they operate: not just the opener, but Walt going into much more detail about what he sacrificed when he walked away from Gretchen and Elliott, or Mike sitting on the park bench feeling the weight of his life while his granddaughter played in a tree, or Skyler trying very hard not to laugh or yell when she realized what Walt had told Marie about Beneke.

All of that clicked because the show had previously taken a whole lot of time to get us there. And even though each individual scene of "Buyout" didn't feel especially fast-paced outside the scene where Walt MacGyver'ed the power cord into an improvised blowtorch — literally burning himself to avoid Mike figuratively burning him and his shot at an empire — the episode as a whole seemed like a race to get from Point A (the guys grieve the murder of Drew Sharp) to Point B (Walt steals the methylamine out from under Mike, promising some insane but profitable new plan) as quickly as possible so that we can have proper time for the endgame of season 5.0. And that's not me worrying about what's to come; that's me not loving what I actually just watched.

Some other thoughts:

* We've talked before about how AMC will occasionally give Gilligan special dispensation to let Walt or someone else use the F-word (most famously in the season 2 scene with Gretchen), provided the audio drops out. Apparently, that arrangement extends to written words as well, as Mike is allowed to write "#### you" in the note to Gomez, so long as the u and c are pixellated.

* Declan, Mike's Arizona connection, is played by character actor Louis Ferreira, whom I knew better under his prior stage name of Justin Louis.

* Good to see Saul back, even briefly. It's been a few weeks.
 

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