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[NMYMND]

Loved Jessie and Walt walking out of the laundromat together with that music.

Hector's face at the end was .

Suck my..

Walt killing the henchmen.

Mike..?

Loved the episode. Love this show!!!

Walt was the one who knocked. And put me in the camp that has the final season being Walt vs. Hank. Most of the DEA will accept that the cartel and Gus wiped each other out and say everything is closed. Walt's ego won't let things rest, and Hank will push that Heisenberg is still out there.

 

[Sam Quentin]

So what's Ted's role next season?

investigative loose endFoul play will be suspected

 

[SacramentoBob]

Nothing that Walt has done has caused me to not root for him.

 

[Sam Quentin]

Why is there another season? Seems like the perfect end. Walt's provided for his family with the car wash. There's no more lab. Walt doesn't have any distribution. DEA will consider the case closed.Loved the episode, but think a fifth season will feel forced.

Walt isn't finished yet. He'll be drawn back to distribution for buttloads of cash, which will catapult him onto the Feds radar. Plus there's Mike. He could end up as an assassin or a henchman. And then there's Hank, who I fully expect to be walking next season. At least his laundry lab theory is going to be validated. And last but not least, Jesse might finally wake up and be mad.

Not to mention that even the Cartel was smart enough to fear killing Gus....One has to wonder what the consequences of that are if Walt is found to be behind it...and if Hector found a way to let other Cartel members know that it was Mr White

 

[Sam Quentin]

Eventually Jesse finds out it was Walt - if it really was Walt.Also what about Mike?

could be Walt (they want us to think) or could be someone framing Walt with the plant from his own house... but I'd say the spinning gun and Walt's relief that the kid wasn't dead pretty much assures that he did itMike's gonna be pissed

He spins the gun, it points at the plant a nd he does a squint like he's just had an ideaHe tells Jesse that Gus is too smart for him, and that Jesse can run the lab by himself - Walt's ego normally would not allow him to utter those words.There's no question he did it

 

[The Noid]

Kind of a weak way to show the poisoning too. Was no reason to do the close up. It was obvious when they showed the plant.

You would like to think that the audience picked it up from the first shot, but there may be some people that need it spelled out.

Are you new to the internet? If they hadn't there would be 10,000 word break-downs about how Ted was really the one who poisoned Brock, after faking his own death by rug.

 

[The Noid]

Lastly, a comment and a question, then I'll stop hogging the thread.I agree that Gus's face looked ridiculously fake after the explosion. Go back and pause it; it's comical. The makeup artist should be fired.The question: I can't figure out why Tyrus was at the DEA office when Hector was inside? He usually follows Walt. Now that Walt was in the wind, did Gus assign him to follow Hector?

Tryrus said their eyes at the DEA gave him a heads-up. Tyrus was there as Tio was leaving, probably after heading over to confirm when he was tipped off. And I don't think it was make-up, more like digital effects. Maybe a little Lost-ish CGI, but still awesome."At least he didn't #### himself this time."

 

[SacramentoBob]

Wonder if Hank will think the bomb was somehow meant for him, but it accidentally went off with Gus in the room.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Why is there another season? Seems like the perfect end. Walt's provided for his family with the car wash. There's no more lab. Walt doesn't have any distribution. DEA will consider the case closed.

Loved the episode, but think a fifth season will feel forced.

Walt isn't finished yet. He'll be drawn back to distribution for buttloads of cash, which will catapult him onto the Feds radar. Plus there's Mike. He could end up as an assassin or a henchman. And then there's Hank, who I fully expect to be walking next season. At least his laundry lab theory is going to be validated. And last but not least, Jesse might finally wake up and be mad.

Not to mention that even the Cartel was smart enough to fear killing Gus....One has to wonder what the consequences of that are if Walt is found to be behind it...and if Hector found a way to let other Cartel members know that it was Mr White

The cartel did not fear killing Gus they just wanted his distribution network.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Eventually Jesse finds out it was Walt - if it really was Walt.

Also what about Mike?

could be Walt (they want us to think) or could be someone framing Walt with the plant from his own house... but I'd say the spinning gun and Walt's relief that the kid wasn't dead pretty much assures that he did itMike's gonna be pissed

He spins the gun, it points at the plant a nd he does a squint like he's just had an ideaHe tells Jesse that Gus is too smart for him, and that Jesse can run the lab by himself - Walt's ego normally would not allow him to utter those words.

There's no question he did it

He kept spinning the gun until it pointed away from him.

 

[The Dude]

Who took Jesse?

 

[Don Quixote]

The AV Club is walking through every episode of this season with Gilligan: http://www.avclub.com/articles/vince-gilligan-walks-us-through-season-four-of-bre,63013/

 

[The Noid]

Some Gilligan interviews on the finale:

A lot of Gus talk

With his Holyness, Sepinwall

 

[Sconch]

Some Gilligan interviews on the finale:

A lot of Gus talk

So awesome.

I think I speak for everyone in America when I ask: What were the Aerosmith and Def Leppard songs we were about to hear before Walt turned off the radio?

 

[Sebowski]

Lastly, a comment and a question, then I'll stop hogging the thread.I agree that Gus's face looked ridiculously fake after the explosion. Go back and pause it; it's comical. The makeup artist should be fired.The question: I can't figure out why Tyrus was at the DEA office when Hector was inside? He usually follows Walt. Now that Walt was in the wind, did Gus assign him to follow Hector?

I think Tyrus was tailing Hank. The reason Hector would only speak to Hank was because they needed Hank at the DEA office in order to draw Tyrus or another of Gus's henchman to the DEA office too.

Exactly. That is part of what made the plan so brilliant.

 

[Walton Goggins]

"Face Off" is the title of the finale. Very interesting and thanks for posting the 1 minute clip Raiders

LOL at the tote bag sticking to elevator door

I wonder if they are foreshadowing something, like they do with Ted and the rug?

Bomb blowing up or something that's done by Walt/Jesse which burns Gus's face?Simply a showdown between Gus and Walt?

Both?

Incredible episode and wish next Summer was already upon us!

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

My predictions for next season (might all be wrong but here goes).

1. A bomb exploding in a nursing home killing an elderly drug cartel member( and Gus) who just so happens to have just requested and met with the Hank and the DEA starts up a huge investigation. Who set us up the bomb?

2. Walt is going to have to kill Jesse, it is only a matter of time before he finds out about the girl and the little boy.

3. Now that Skylar knows Walt is a killer their dynamic is totally changed.

4. Mike is coming back and it is going to get messy when he finds out what happened in his absence.

5. A new super-villain needs to arise from the ashes - it might even be Walt himself.

 

[SacramentoBob]

They are setting Jesse up to be the hero, so I think it's him that takes him out Walt right about the same time Hank discovers the truth. The antagonist for Walt is going to be Hank. No need for a new criminal villain.

 

[Tiger Fan]

With the way Hank digs I wonder if Gus' car being left at the hospital during the sametime Jesse is being questioned by the FBI about the ricin comment will raise any flags. Would be a reach but two extremely unusual events that intersect at the hospital. That connection doesn't even need to be made. Could see Hank checking out surveillance video's at the hospital, due to the car being left, only to see Walt and Jesse together as well as Gus/Tyrus in and out. Even if the video just shows Walt walking in it begs the question why was he there when he was suppossed to be at the carwash and his family is begging him to go to the safehouse.That car is going to come into play. Lot of attention to it being left there. Culminating with Walt driving past it staring at the pollos hermanos swag hanging form the rearview.Also, can't wait to see Hank gets his balls washed at the beginning of next season.

I think the car is definiteily going to come into play next year.

 

[Christo]

My predictions for next season (might all be wrong but here goes).

1. A bomb exploding in a nursing home killing an elderly drug cartel member( and Gus) who just so happens to have just requested and met with the Hank and the DEA starts up a huge investigation. Who set us up the bomb?

2. Walt is going to have to kill Jesse, it is only a matter of time before he finds out about the girl and the little boy.

3. Now that Skylar knows Walt is a killer their dynamic is totally changed.

4. Mike is coming back and it is going to get messy when he finds out what happened in his absence.

5. A new super-villain needs to arise from the ashes - it might even be Walt himself.

I don't see Mike playing the avenging angel. He's a cog and he knows it. He'll find a place to land and play the role he's always played.

 

[SacramentoBob]

My predictions for next season (might all be wrong but here goes).

1. A bomb exploding in a nursing home killing an elderly drug cartel member( and Gus) who just so happens to have just requested and met with the Hank and the DEA starts up a huge investigation. Who set us up the bomb?

2. Walt is going to have to kill Jesse, it is only a matter of time before he finds out about the girl and the little boy.

3. Now that Skylar knows Walt is a killer their dynamic is totally changed.

4. Mike is coming back and it is going to get messy when he finds out what happened in his absence.

5. A new super-villain needs to arise from the ashes - it might even be Walt himself.

I don't see Mike playing the avenging angel. He's a cog and he knows it. He'll find a place to land and play the role he's always played.

I agree with this. He seems loyal enough that if Gus left him an order to take care of Walt though, he'd do it.

 

[Walton Goggins]

They are setting Jesse up to be the hero, so I think it's him that takes him out Walt right about the same time Hank discovers the truth. The antagonist for Walt is going to be Hank. No need for a new criminal villain.

That doesn't make sense. If Walt is killed then Hank/DEA/Cops want to know. It'll be clear to Hank that he was wrong about Gus since his death clearly shows there's a bigger fish to catch. Law enforcement who are looking to catch someone doesn't stop if that person is killed by someone.Will be interesting to see who lives, dies and who gets away with it or not.

 

[Major]

One of the best things to come out of the finale is that Saul will likely be safe and able to set his practice back up in the ABQ. I think he'll play a big role next year with Walt + Jesse. Can't wait to see him joust with the DEA guys.

 

[Sconch]

Here is what I would love to see:

Jesse, Walt, Saul, Mike AND Hank forming some sort of meth-making super group. Like a Blind Faith cartel.

 

[Raider Nation]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

 

[Sebowski]

I think the premier will open with Walt working at the car wash. The question for me is, what will draw Walt back in? Cartel? Money issues? He's not exactly loaded right now. Is there a guy above Gus that runs that German company that will want some retribution for Walt destroying millions in equipment?

 

[SacramentoBob]

I think Skyler kills Walt and Marie and marries Hank.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I think the premier will open with Walt working at the car wash. The question for me is, what will draw Walt back in? Cartel? Money issues? He's not exactly loaded right now. Is there a guy above Gus that runs that German company that will want some retribution for Walt destroying millions in equipment?

Walt is worse with his money than Latrell Sprewell.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

Good win by the Raiders by the way, I was wrong and forgot never count on the Texans.Wish Walt Jr would turn bad and end up running the entire meth business.

 

[Sconch]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

More important issues to deal with

 

[Raider Nation]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

OHH! Thank you for reminding me of the one other thing I was wondering about.The two goons Walt killed in the lab were not the same goons who were chasing Walt in his house (I went back to confirm).So the two goons from the house are still out there. Once they find out Gus and Tyrus are dead, they won't still come hard after Walt?

 

[SacramentoBob]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

OHH! Thank you for reminding me of the one other thing I was wondering about.The two goons Walt killed in the lab were not the same goons who were chasing Walt in his house (I went back to confirm).So the two goons from the house are still out there. Once they find out Gus and Tyrus are dead, they won't still come hard after Walt?

They are in the same position Don Eladio's men were in Mexico. Sure they could go after Walt, but what would be the point? They also seemed like they were looking to kill Walt, unlike the men who were there to kidnap Jesse.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Well clearly, they need money at this point. BUT...They don't have a lab to cook in, and don't have the capital to get it going again. I'm sure the car wash will go under soon since they don't have all of the illegal $ coming in. That coudl be the red flag that actually tips Hank off (i.e. it was doing great, then all of a sudden it's bankrupt). My guess is that alot of the last season will be Walt just trying whatever he can to clear up his mess (money, tie to Gus, Jessie, Saul, marriage, etc).

I'm probably 100% wrong though, I always suck at predicting these things

 

[Dexter Manley]

Fwiw, I saw on another board that people noticed that one of the documents Saul's secretary was shredding was a school schedule. This would confirm that Saul helped Walt with the poisoning.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Fwiw, I saw on another board that people noticed that one of the documents Saul's secretary was shredding was a school schedule. This would confirm that Saul helped Walt with the poisoning.

That helps explain the timeline issues Walt would have pulling it off.

 

[Sconch]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

More important issues to deal with

Yeah...issues that might need some money to take care of. How hard would it have been to stuff a gym bag full of money?

 

[SacramentoBob]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

More important issues to deal with

Yeah...issues that might need some money to take care of. How hard would it have been to stuff a gym bag full of money?

Hey may have felt it was best to not move the money when people were likely after him/watching him.

 

[Abraham]

Thinking about it, I think that the season finale set up nicely for season 5 to resolve the relationship between Jesse, Walt, and Hank. Keep in mind that Pinkman and Hank have a lot of history as well, so it's not just down to he and Walt.

I imagine that season 5 will be about Walt's struggle to return to normal vs. acknowledging that he is, indeed, a badass capable of doing some big time things in the drug trade. I will say that the finale makes me want to go back and watch the last three episodes to see how it all came together. THere were no doubt some spots where the viewer was given clues but simply failed to put it all together.

I could see Mike returning to be Walt's strong-man. I could see Hank getting hot on the trail of either Walt or Jesse. I could see Jesse trying to find a way out of all of this just as I could see Walt moving on without Jesse.

 

[Sconch]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

More important issues to deal with

Yeah...issues that might need some money to take care of. How hard would it have been to stuff a gym bag full of money?

Hey may have felt it was best to not move the money when people were likely after him/watching him.

Why would it matter?

 

[Raider Nation]

Fwiw, I saw on another board that people noticed that one of the documents Saul's secretary was shredding was a school schedule. This would confirm that Saul helped Walt with the poisoning.

That helps explain the timeline issues Walt would have pulling it off.

"Hey kid, I'm Walt. Have some berries."

 

[Walton Goggins]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

More important issues to deal with

Yeah...issues that might need some money to take care of. How hard would it have been to stuff a gym bag full of money?

I was thinking not getting killed and trying to kill your enemy first which seems like a more important thing than where to transport your money.

 

[Raider Nation]

Classy to the end

 

[Sconch]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

More important issues to deal with

Yeah...issues that might need some money to take care of. How hard would it have been to stuff a gym bag full of money?

I was thinking not getting killed and trying to kill your enemy first which seems like a more important thing than where to transport your money.

You're not getting it. We're not talking about moving a sofa or bedroom set. It would take Walt 5 minutes to reach down into his crawlspace and grab the cash. Whatever money was left after Skyler paying Ted's taxes could be used to aid Walt in both keeping his family safe and killing Gus. It's not a huge plot-point but it's still there.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

More important issues to deal with

Yeah...issues that might need some money to take care of. How hard would it have been to stuff a gym bag full of money?

I was thinking not getting killed and trying to kill your enemy first which seems like a more important thing than where to transport your money.

You're not getting it. We're not talking about moving a sofa or bedroom set. It would take Walt 5 minutes to reach down into his crawlspace and grab the cash. Whatever money was left after Skyler paying Ted's taxes could be used to aid Walt in both keeping his family safe and killing Gus. It's not a huge plot-point but it's still there.

Oh I and the creator/writer clearly get it. When you are under threat of death and time is critical here moving some money that up until now is safe doesn't make sense. Gus isn't interested in the few thousands you have left and if you're Walt, moving the money would fall right above going to hang out with Walt Jr. on your to do list

 

[Daywalker]

Is their any evidence that it was Walt and not the cartel that took out Gus. Just thinking from Mike's eventual perspective.

 

[Raider Nation]

Is their any evidence that it was Walt and not the cartel that took out Gus. Just thinking from Mike's eventual perspective.

I can't see Mike caring one way or the other. Dead men don't pay your bills.

 

[Daywalker]

Is their any evidence that it was Walt and not the cartel that took out Gus. Just thinking from Mike's eventual perspective.

I can't see Mike caring one way or the other. Dead men don't pay your bills.

Likely. But he was involved in the cartel massacre and may care about what happened with Gus' death and if he's next.

 

[Sconch]

Is their any evidence that it was Walt and not the cartel that took out Gus. Just thinking from Mike's eventual perspective.

Wasn't the cartel pretty much wiped out?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Is their any evidence that it was Walt and not the cartel that took out Gus. Just thinking from Mike's eventual perspective.

The employees at the laundry could tell him about Walt and Jessie pulling the fire alarm and telling them to "vamanos" before the explosion. That would certainly raise suspicions.

Wasn't the cartel pretty much wiped out?

There's still a large organization left. It could fall apart or a new leader could rise. Given the amount of money involved I'd guess the latter. The same might be true about Gus' operation.