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[Abraham]

"letting her die".

 

[Thunderlips]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter’s betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

I haven't seen this episode in some time, but I saw it more as not saving her, not murdering her.

I dont know. He definitely had a motive for her to not be alive.

 

[Thunderlips]

Im telling you........Walts whacks Jesse. Its the next evolution of the character.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

How tall is Anna Gunn?

Six feet even?

 

[identikit]

How tall is Anna Gunn?Six feet even?

5'10"

 

[wildbill]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter’s betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

I haven't seen this episode in some time, but I saw it more as not saving her, not murdering her.

IIRC Walt rolled Jane on her back, and jostled the bed while trying to wake Jesse. But it doesn't really matter. If/when Jesses finds out there's no way of explaining it that won't end with him wanting to kill Walt.

 

[identikit]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter's betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

I haven't seen this episode in some time, but I saw it more as not saving her, not murdering her.

IIRC Walt rolled Jane on her back, and jostled the bed while trying to wake Jesse. But it doesn't really matter. If/when Jesses finds out there's no way of explaining it that won't end with him wanting to kill Walt.

A strung-out Walt almost confessed to Jesse re: Jane's death in the 'Fly' episode.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

How tall is Anna Gunn?Six feet even?

5'10"

Close.She towers over Paul, seems at the same length as Cranston.

 

[Apple Jack]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter’s betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

Maybe. It's been established that when he gets drunk, or even exhausted, he's capable of outing himself on anything. With his ego only growing and his grip on any kind of moral compass slipping, he's only going to become more of a threat to himself. Jesse is the closest thing to a hero on this show and I have a feeling that if it comes down to Walt or Jesse that Jesse will prevail. Not necessarily because he's the closest thing to a hero, but because Walt is getting more and more willing to put his head in the lion's mouth and one of these times it's going to get him. Whether it's telling Jesse what he's done, his manner in setting up new distribution relationships, another cartel tracking him down, a misstep that tips off Hank, etc.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter’s betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

Maybe. It's been established that when he gets drunk, or even exhausted, he's capable of outing himself on anything. With his ego only growing and his grip on any kind of moral compass slipping, he's only going to become more of a threat to himself. Jesse is the closest thing to a hero on this show and I have a feeling that if it comes down to Walt or Jesse that Jesse will prevail. Not necessarily because he's the closest thing to a hero, but because Walt is getting more and more willing to put his head in the lion's mouth and one of these times it's going to get him. Whether it's telling Jesse what he's done, his manner in setting up new distribution relationships, another cartel tracking him down, a misstep that tips off Hank, etc.

Hank is the closest thing to a hero on this show

 

[Apple Jack]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter’s betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

Maybe. It's been established that when he gets drunk, or even exhausted, he's capable of outing himself on anything. With his ego only growing and his grip on any kind of moral compass slipping, he's only going to become more of a threat to himself. Jesse is the closest thing to a hero on this show and I have a feeling that if it comes down to Walt or Jesse that Jesse will prevail. Not necessarily because he's the closest thing to a hero, but because Walt is getting more and more willing to put his head in the lion's mouth and one of these times it's going to get him. Whether it's telling Jesse what he's done, his manner in setting up new distribution relationships, another cartel tracking him down, a misstep that tips off Hank, etc.

Hank is the closest thing to a hero on this show

Disagree.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter’s betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

Maybe. It's been established that when he gets drunk, or even exhausted, he's capable of outing himself on anything. With his ego only growing and his grip on any kind of moral compass slipping, he's only going to become more of a threat to himself. Jesse is the closest thing to a hero on this show and I have a feeling that if it comes down to Walt or Jesse that Jesse will prevail. Not necessarily because he's the closest thing to a hero, but because Walt is getting more and more willing to put his head in the lion's mouth and one of these times it's going to get him. Whether it's telling Jesse what he's done, his manner in setting up new distribution relationships, another cartel tracking him down, a misstep that tips off Hank, etc.

Hank is the closest thing to a hero on this show

Disagree.

Jesse - has killed, sold drugs, tried to sell drugs to a support group of addicts, cooked, was partly responsible for the death of JaneWalt - has done many bad things

Hank - has caught bad guys, fired the fatl shot at Tuco and the worst thing he has done is to be ###### to his klepto wife

 

[Apple Jack]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter’s betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

Maybe. It's been established that when he gets drunk, or even exhausted, he's capable of outing himself on anything. With his ego only growing and his grip on any kind of moral compass slipping, he's only going to become more of a threat to himself. Jesse is the closest thing to a hero on this show and I have a feeling that if it comes down to Walt or Jesse that Jesse will prevail. Not necessarily because he's the closest thing to a hero, but because Walt is getting more and more willing to put his head in the lion's mouth and one of these times it's going to get him. Whether it's telling Jesse what he's done, his manner in setting up new distribution relationships, another cartel tracking him down, a misstep that tips off Hank, etc.

Hank is the closest thing to a hero on this show

Disagree.

Jesse - has killed, sold drugs, tried to sell drugs to a support group of addicts, cooked, was partly responsible for the death of JaneWalt - has done many bad things

Hank - has caught bad guys, fired the fatl shot at Tuco and the worst thing he has done is to be ###### to his klepto wife

It's all about context. Jesse's a much more compelling character and we've seen him become more and more moral, the deeper into the #### he gets. His relationship with his conscience is as compelling as anything on the show, imo. And he wasn't responsible for the death of Jane. Jane was responsible for the death of Jane.ETA: I'm not talking John Ashcroft Let The Eagle Soar type hero. I'm talking literary hero.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

It's all about context. Jesse's a much more compelling character and we've seen him become more and more moral, the deeper into the #### he gets. His relationship with his conscience is as compelling as anything on the show, imo. And he wasn't responsible for the death of Jane. Jane was responsible for the death of Jane.ETA: I'm not talking John Ashcroft Let The Eagle Soar type hero. I'm talking literary hero.

probably mostlywhen he met her, she was a recovering addict and he was a dealer. He knew he'd be trouble for her. He helped her take what was the fatal dose. Jane, Walt and Jesse all bear some of the blame.

 

[higgins]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter’s betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

I haven't seen this episode in some time, but I saw it more as not saving her, not murdering her.

IIRC Walt rolled Jane on her back, and jostled the bed while trying to wake Jesse. But it doesn't really matter. If/when Jesses finds out there's no way of explaining it that won't end with him wanting to kill Walt.

He didn't actively fo anything -- but he did just let her die w/o helping.

 

[kupcho1]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter’s betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

I haven't seen this episode in some time, but I saw it more as not saving her, not murdering her.

IIRC Walt rolled Jane on her back, and jostled the bed while trying to wake Jesse. But it doesn't really matter. If/when Jesses finds out there's no way of explaining it that won't end with him wanting to kill Walt.

He didn't actively fo anything -- but he did just let her die w/o helping.

Which is not even close to murder.

 

[Wingnut]

Just wrapped up season one. Should have all four seasons knocked out within a week, maybe less.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter's betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

I haven't seen this episode in some time, but I saw it more as not saving her, not murdering her.

IIRC Walt rolled Jane on her back, and jostled the bed while trying to wake Jesse. But it doesn't really matter. If/when Jesses finds out there's no way of explaining it that won't end with him wanting to kill Walt.

He didn't actively fo anything -- but he did just let her die w/o helping.

Which is not even close to murder.

It's not the same thing, but I think it is pretty close.

 

[CBusAlex]

Which is not even close to murder.

This isn't the Zimmerman thread. Whether it meets the legal definition of murder or not is kind of irrelevant.

 

[EYLive]

Sup with Walt cutting the crust off his PB&J sammiches? Just another way of showing he's a perfectionist?

I was rewatched Ep. 3 today, and Krazy 8 didn't like the crust on the balony & cheese sammich, so Walt started cutting the crust. He adopted the practice at that point.

 

[Abraham]

Just wrapped up season one. Should have all four seasons knocked out within a week, maybe less.

Ok, thanks for updating

 

[Wingnut]

Just wrapped up season one. Should have all four seasons knocked out within a week, maybe less.

Ok, thanks for updating

Thank you for subscribing.

 

[oukurt]

Just hooked up my Roku, getting ready to start Breaking Bad from the beginning. I've never seen the show, is it good out of the gates or does it take a bit of time to get going?

I've never seen a show that grabbed my interest as quickly as Breaking Bad. I also watched for the first time on Netflix and I think I hammered out four episodes the first night lol. It was so good, I wanted to keep going.

Agreed. One episode and I was in need of my fix ever since.

So what's the verdict? You like this show or The Wire better, bud?

Tough call. Seasons 1-2 of The Wire so good but didn't quite keep its pace up so I will go with the consistent Breaking Bad.

 

[oukurt]

One of Walt or jesse is going to die.

Jesse eventually has to find out about Walter’s betrayals, both the poisoning of a child he loves, and the murder of a girl he loved. Jesse has shown competence before, and if he were sober, perhaps he could turn into the student who outwits his master. Nobody would blame Jesse for seeking revenge and trying to take over the empire for himself, whether he felt he could run it or not.

I haven't seen this episode in some time, but I saw it more as not saving her, not murdering her.

IIRC Walt rolled Jane on her back, and jostled the bed while trying to wake Jesse. But it doesn't really matter. If/when Jesses finds out there's no way of explaining it that won't end with him wanting to kill Walt.

He didn't actively fo anything -- but he did just let her die w/o helping.

Which is not even close to murder.

Will agree. Murder wasn't the right word. You know what I meant though.

 

[Major]

Just wrapped up season one. Should have all four seasons knocked out within a week, maybe less.

Ok, thanks for updating

Please keep us posted on your progress

 

[Wingnut]

Just wrapped up season one. Should have all four seasons knocked out within a week, maybe less.

Ok, thanks for updating

Please keep us posted on your progress

I will. Counting down til I can read the posts in here and join in. Can't do that til I'm caught up.And since you asked, I'm on season 2, episode 4, "Down".

 

[Charlie Frown]

OMG SKYLER LOOKING HAWT!

'bout time.

 

[Raider Nation]

OMG SKYLER LOOKING HAWT!

My link

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

OMG SKYLER LOOKING HAWT!

My link

Seriously?Anna Gunn is a beautiful woman.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

OMG SKYLER LOOKING HAWT!

My link

Seriously?Anna Gunn is a beautiful woman.

Ahhhh no. Jesse's chick that walt "killed" is hot. Skylar, not so much.Eta: #####!

 

[mad sweeney]

I just finished season 2, so I obviously haven't read the thread yet, but this is obviously a great show. Cranston is amazing as we see him turn from mild mannered teacher to resentful morally corrupted drug dealer (especially letting Jane die, after initially going over to help her, to eliminate her threat of exposing him). I think it was all in the same episode where he finally sees the drug dens while trying to find Jesse, then the TV interview with his son gushing about how great he is after he's finally seen the damage his product does is award worthy just for the closeup on his face, trying to smile but ending up with a look of horror and sorrow on his face.

I also really like all the interesting camera/film techniques that they use. The Mexican band music video where they tell the tale of Heisenberg and the Cartel must've been ridiculous to pitch to the execs (same as casting Bob Oedenkirk!). Quite frankly, if I hadn't had a roommate in college who was born and raised half his life in Druango Mexico, I wouldn't have know of the music genre where the bands sing songs of rebels and drug dealers/cartels and probably would've thought the scene was silly. But to have that as a teaser to the show? Very creative. Plus the B&W scenes of the pink teddy bear in the pool and the slowly emerging picture of disaster unfolding at the White household. I have to admit, at the beginning of the finale when the van was revealed to be NTSB, I was more than a little confused and I think it was a little bit of a cheap, overused trick to make the scene completely different than anything imaginable from the show. Minor complaint though.

Really looking forward to how Cranston deals with the guilt of the plane crash, the seemingly too hot and busty wife of a high school chemistry teacher leaving him with the kids, Jesse's reaction/recovery from the death, and most especially Giancarlo Esposito's (who I didn't even recognize) actions when he must definitely be thinking Heisenberg is working with the DEA. Can't believe I missed this show...

 

[Apple Jack]

Narcocorrido has been around for a long time. It's really not much different from the outlaw ballads in the US like Jesse James and this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWcTFZUlNjM

 

[Major]

Is smart money on Dish dropping AMC? this little feud cracks me up whilst viewing Breaking Bad.

 

[jamny]

OMG SKYLER LOOKING HAWT!

My link

Seriously?Anna Gunn is a beautiful woman.

I wouldn't go that far.

 

[Apple Jack]

"The last time I saw a mouth like that it had a hook in it."

 

[Major]

OMG SKYLER LOOKING HAWT!

My link

Seriously?Anna Gunn is a beautiful woman.

I wouldn't go that far.

 

[Raider Nation]

Refresh my memory: the last episode we saw, was Hank moving around a little bit with a walker? I forget.

 

[Sebowski]

Refresh my memory: the last episode we saw, was Hank moving around a little bit with a walker? I forget.

I think he was struggling with it.I am more anxious for the return of a healthy Mike. A crippled Hank can still do his thing for the most part.

 

[Raider Nation]

Refresh my memory: the last episode we saw, was Hank moving around a little bit with a walker? I forget.

I think he was struggling with it.I am more anxious for the return of a healthy Mike. A crippled Hank can still do his thing for the most part.

Mike is so good. I hope he still has a big role.

 

[Major]

Refresh my memory: the last episode we saw, was Hank moving around a little bit with a walker? I forget.

I think he was struggling with it.I am more anxious for the return of a healthy Mike. A crippled Hank can still do his thing for the most part.

Mike is so good. I hope he still has a big role.

that cough gots Major thinking teh cancer will take him out

 

[Michael Brown]

OMG SKYLER LOOKING HAWT!

My link

Seriously?Anna Gunn is a beautiful woman.

I wouldn't go that far.

I wouldn't go within 10 miles

 

[Michael Brown]

FWIW - I got my wife interested in this mostly because it's still on air... she watched a lot of season 4 with me and got into it despite not seeing anything before that. I had intended to re-watch a lot leading up to the new season (especially since I was going through chemo through most of season 2). She's watching along with me, and she's HOOKED. We blew through the first season in a night and a half, and we're halfway through season 2.... and she even took one of the iPads and watched an extra episode tonight after we were done.Now, at the same time, I have been trying to get her to watch The Wire which she wants to, but I think the fact that it's "done" gives her a sense of being able to do it whenever.... but I'm really curious to see what her reaction is. I really value her judgment and critical opinion, and curious to hear how she feels about the two especially watching them both after the fact. I've rewatched Wire several times, but this is my first time back through Breaking Bad. I got hooked after S01E05, and I'm starting to realize why... that's when it really grabs you. It's certainly more intense than The Wire, though more limited in scope. I'm starting to even appreciate Tuco - how perfect he is as a crazy, tweaker dealer. One thing I can say, without a doubt though, is that BB's cinematography and direction is better... it's simply amazing. Rewatching it all in a row only adds to the narrative... and seriously, the close angles and distinctive "under the glass" when digging on several scenes is just... awesome.Unrelated, Game of Thrones passed Mad Men in priority this last season with wifey, which I was very happy about. I even got her to listen to one of the audiobooks. She appreciates this ####... and now I just need to get her hooked on The Wire when we have downtime to get more input on which is better

Similarly, I've gotten the wife into a lot of these shows too but BB was one we got into and watched together. It's my favorite show ever just ahead of The Sopranos, and it's one of her favorites. Catching up on The Wire now but she likes BB a lot better. I think it's because BB is more entertaining, and that's not meant as a knock on The Wire.In some ways, The Wire is better than anything else ever made because quality-wise there's nothing that can match the realism, acting, writing, etc all rolled into one package. But that reality of the show is what makes it so heartbreaking at times, which although it's very good, does not provide "entertainment" to some people if that makes sense.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Season 4 is amazing. Just finished disk 3. Its still pretty unrealistic but im entertained.

 

[shuke]

So I'm DVR'ing the show from the beginning and just watched the pilot. Why the hell would they edit out all the bad words?

 

[The Ref]

Just rewatched the end of season 4. This is really a great show. I'm so looking forward to season 5.

 

[Raider Nation]

So I'm DVR'ing the show from the beginning and just watched the pilot. Why the hell would they edit out all the bad words?

Because they are unedited on the DVD. But it does sound sloppy on TV.

Spoiler

Especially when Skyler looks at Walt and says "I [bEEPED] Ted." Talk about a line losing steam.

 

[Raider Nation]

That opening of "Bullet Points" is still the coolest thing I've ever seen.

 

[Wingnut]

Aaaarrgh! I can't take this, I wanna read some posts but just finished the episode in season 2 where Walt gives Jessie the $480k and there's a shocker at the end..

Wondering what the pink stuffed animal and the other stuff is at the beginning of some of the episodes..

This. Show. Is. Awesome.

 

[jamny]

Aaaarrgh! I can't take this, I wanna read some posts but just finished the episode in season 2 where Walt gives Jessie the $480k and there's a shocker at the end..Wondering what the pink stuffed animal and the other stuff is at the beginning of some of the episodes..This. Show. Is. Awesome.

why don't you read along with the thread up to what you watched. That's what I did with the Wire and am doing with Dexter.

 

[corpcow]

FWIW - I got my wife interested in this mostly because it's still on air... she watched a lot of season 4 with me and got into it despite not seeing anything before that. I had intended to re-watch a lot leading up to the new season (especially since I was going through chemo through most of season 2). She's watching along with me, and she's HOOKED. We blew through the first season in a night and a half, and we're halfway through season 2.... and she even took one of the iPads and watched an extra episode tonight after we were done.Now, at the same time, I have been trying to get her to watch The Wire which she wants to, but I think the fact that it's "done" gives her a sense of being able to do it whenever.... but I'm really curious to see what her reaction is. I really value her judgment and critical opinion, and curious to hear how she feels about the two especially watching them both after the fact. I've rewatched Wire several times, but this is my first time back through Breaking Bad. I got hooked after S01E05, and I'm starting to realize why... that's when it really grabs you. It's certainly more intense than The Wire, though more limited in scope. I'm starting to even appreciate Tuco - how perfect he is as a crazy, tweaker dealer. One thing I can say, without a doubt though, is that BB's cinematography and direction is better... it's simply amazing. Rewatching it all in a row only adds to the narrative... and seriously, the close angles and distinctive "under the glass" when digging on several scenes is just... awesome.Unrelated, Game of Thrones passed Mad Men in priority this last season with wifey, which I was very happy about. I even got her to listen to one of the audiobooks. She appreciates this ####... and now I just need to get her hooked on The Wire when we have downtime to get more input on which is better

Similarly, I've gotten the wife into a lot of these shows too but BB was one we got into and watched together. It's my favorite show ever just ahead of The Sopranos, and it's one of her favorites. Catching up on The Wire now but she likes BB a lot better. I think it's because BB is more entertaining, and that's not meant as a knock on The Wire.In some ways, The Wire is better than anything else ever made because quality-wise there's nothing that can match the realism, acting, writing, etc all rolled into one package. But that reality of the show is what makes it so heartbreaking at times, which although it's very good, does not provide "entertainment" to some people if that makes sense.

We usually watch most of the Sun night, cable type shows together... we don't watch any nextwork. Sadly, the two she never watched with me originally was The Wire and BB, and mostly about not making another commitment to a show.She wathed some of the end of the last season on BB with me, and was intrigued... and now she's HOOKED. She wanted to watch yesterday and in fact instead of anything new like True Blood. We finished blew threw the first two seasons with marathon sessions Thurs, Fri and Sat... and we're halfway into Season 3. At 1am last night my wife finally said she had to go to bed.