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[badmojo1006]

I still don't see why Skyler can't go to the police.She could certainly get immunity for turning rat. I'm sure her DEA BIL would find it in his heart to help her get for her relatively minor crimes in order to bring down Heisenberg and his entire blue meth network.

Agreed, but I think she is scared the kids will be taken away from her

 

[identikit]

I'm not so sure Saul wants Walt dead.

Saul is getting over $50,000 per cook, for whatever that's worth.

Yep.That's why he doesn't want Walt dead (at this point anyways).

 

[Gawain]

I still don't see why Skyler can't go to the police.She could certainly get immunity for turning rat. I'm sure her DEA BIL would find it in his heart to help her get for her relatively minor crimes in order to bring down Heisenberg and his entire blue meth network.

A) She doesn't want her son to lose faith in his fatherB) She doesn't want to hear Marie chirping for every second of the rest of her lifeC) She doesn't want her family to be destitute.I've also been thinking about the opening scene of Season 5. Fairly sure that Walt is on the road for his new job as an insurance salesman and the M-16 is modified to disperse Raid to prevent the return of the fly.

 

[comfortably numb]

I still don't see why Skyler can't go to the police.She could certainly get immunity for turning rat. I'm sure her DEA BIL would find it in his heart to help her get for her relatively minor crimes in order to bring down Heisenberg and his entire blue meth network.

Snitches get stitches....and no breakfast!

 

[identikit]

I'd have to think that Saul would absolutely love to see Jesse/Mike take Walt out of the picture.

Would he tell them about Lily of the Valley? I doubt it, but it's not out of the question. He'd implicate himself, but I'm assuming he's more scared of Walt than even an angry Jesse.

More likely, I would think that Saul would find other ways to help Gilliga, err Jesse, start to figure out what everyone else has (well, you know, except the star DEA agent).

Regardless of exactly how, it would make perfect sense that Saul would be a catalyst to help swing Jesse over to Mike's side and start the war.

Do you think that Saul thinks Jesse is capable of outwitting and killing Walt? If you were him, would you take that chance? If anything, you go to Mike, not Jesse.

I'm not so sure Saul wants Walt dead.

I'm not so sure any of those four want any of the others dead.

Why not?Obviously, I can't be sure of anything, but it certainly seems that way.

Mike wanting Walt dead seems to be the most obvious. He wanted to kill him earlier, and I don't see how, in a million years, that he would think he needs Walt alive or that Walt being alive is anything but a liability on a number of levels.

When Mike's methylamine connection runs out, I could see Walt wanting Mike dead. He doesn't want him dead yet, but that moment's fast approaching.

Why would Saul want Walt alive? I just don't see it.

Saul could continue to make a healthy profit with just Mike/Jesse running things. Walt's a time bomb that will get them all killed or arrested. I think Saul sees this.

Saul's generally level-headed about the best way to handle these situations and has no qualms with using murder for the "greater" good ("Why don't you just kill Badger?").

Walt approached mike to handle the business end, which includes a lot more than just the precurssor. Mike needs Walt because his granddaughters money ha been seized.

I agree, I don't think Walt's there yet.On the latter, I disagree. Jesse can cook. Walt's unnecessary and a huge liability.

Jesse can cook til something goes wrong.While I think he's better at the science (!) than he once was, not so sure he could make adjustments/fix the process.

 

[prefontaine]

My thought is that Jesse is the only one right now who has Walt's trust. And Walt has a soft spot now that Jesse gave him the watch. Walt is vulnerable to Jesse right now if Mike is able to turn Jesse against walt

But if you are Jesse, you have a pretty good relationship with Mike. Why would you try some devious plot when you have a stone cold killer who could do it for you? You don't kill Walt by planting a bomb. You kill Walt the same way you kill Gale or others. He's not Gus. He's not hard to get to. It may be difficult for Jesse to pull that trigger but it wouldn't be for Mike...at all.

Why not?

Obviously, I can't be sure of anything, but it certainly seems that way.

Mike wanting Walt dead seems to be the most obvious. He wanted to kill him earlier, and I don't see how, in a million years, that he would think he needs Walt alive or that Walt being alive is anything but a liability on a number of levels.

I'm not sure which side of the fence Mike is on. He likes Jesse but this is a huge operation. They don't have the superlab in place. It's not a clean operation and it's pretty likely from here that they are going to change some things on the fly. Not sure he trusts Jesse to handle the day to day production in that sort of environment.

When Mike's methylamine connection runs out, I could see Walt wanting Mike dead. He doesn't want him dead yet, but that moment's fast approaching.

Maybe but I don't think so. Walt needs Mike. He's gone down the path of trying to do things himself in the past and he's a smart guy. I think it goes beyond methylamine for Walt. Maybe his hubris does him in here but I don't see where he is even trying to get into the operations of it (that's "Mike's business")

Why would Saul want Walt alive? I just don't see it.

Saul could continue to make a healthy profit with just Mike/Jesse running things. Walt's a time bomb that will get them all killed or arrested. I think Saul sees this.

Saul's generally level-headed about the best way to handle these situations and has no qualms with using murder for the "greater" good ("Why don't you just kill Badger?").

Why would Saul prefer to work with Jesse or Mike? Jesse has been nothing but problems and is not a "leader". No way you expect to do major business with him. He's also much more of a loose cannon than Walt and Saul of all people knows this. Mike is the muscle. In the past Saul has shown much more fear of Mike than anyone else. Not saying it wouldn't cross Saul's mind but he's making a fortune here and isn't really in danger of anything. At least no more than he has been in the past.I think all 4 have reasons they don't want each other around. But I also think none of them are compelling enough at the moment to change the dynamic and off someone.

 

[DocGonzo]

It's just a watch. The seconds hand was symbolism of time running out.

Yep.Highly symbolic, on a few levels.

That's what my head tells me, and the symbolism was definitely evident from the start. I think you guys are on point on that one. My gut, though, can't shake the thought that the watch was intended for something beyond that blunt symbolism. They lingered on it a couple of times, and that last tick seemed/sounded .... different. Again, probably way off, but with this show you can never really tell. That was one of those episode endings that had me thinking "No! Just give me ten more minutes!"Was anyone else waiting for the moment when they got the call that Flynn Jr had died in a car accident? Skylar doesn't seem to need much more of a push to go completely over the edge, but that would certainly seem to do it.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

the idea that the watch was anything more than a watch doesn't fit with this show at all, IMO

secret watch bombs and watch cameras is James Bond stuff and Jesse has given no indication he doesn't trust Walt anyway.

 

[identikit]

It's just a watch. The seconds hand was symbolism of time running out.

Yep.Highly symbolic, on a few levels.

That's what my head tells me, and the symbolism was definitely evident from the start. I think you guys are on point on that one. My gut, though, can't shake the thought that the watch was intended for something beyond that blunt symbolism. They lingered on it a couple of times, and that last tick seemed/sounded .... different. Again, probably way off, but with this show you can never really tell. That was one of those episode endings that had me thinking "No! Just give me ten more minutes!"Was anyone else waiting for the moment when they got the call that Flynn Jr had died in a car accident? Skylar doesn't seem to need much more of a push to go completely over the edge, but that would certainly seem to do it.

What could a James Bond watch really do for anyone?Explode and kill Walt? Highly unlikely.Record Walt's actions (audio and/or video)? What would that gain?Poison Walt? I don't think so.

 

[identikit]

the idea that the watch was anything more than a watch doesn't fit with this show at all, IMOsecret watch bombs and watch cameras is James Bond stuff and Jesse has given no indication he doesn't trust Walt anyway.

 

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the idea that the watch was anything more than a watch doesn't fit with this show at all, IMOsecret watch bombs and watch cameras is James Bond stuff and Jesse has given no indication he doesn't trust Walt anyway.

Exactly.

 

[pollardsvision]

My thought is that Jesse is the only one right now who has Walt's trust. And Walt has a soft spot now that Jesse gave him the watch. Walt is vulnerable to Jesse right now if Mike is able to turn Jesse against walt

But if you are Jesse, you have a pretty good relationship with Mike. Why would you try some devious plot when you have a stone cold killer who could do it for you? You don't kill Walt by planting a bomb. You kill Walt the same way you kill Gale or others. He's not Gus. He's not hard to get to. It may be difficult for Jesse to pull that trigger but it wouldn't be for Mike...at all.

Why not?

Obviously, I can't be sure of anything, but it certainly seems that way.

Mike wanting Walt dead seems to be the most obvious. He wanted to kill him earlier, and I don't see how, in a million years, that he would think he needs Walt alive or that Walt being alive is anything but a liability on a number of levels.

I'm not sure which side of the fence Mike is on. He likes Jesse but this is a huge operation. They don't have the superlab in place. It's not a clean operation and it's pretty likely from here that they are going to change some things on the fly. Not sure he trusts Jesse to handle the day to day production in that sort of environment.

When Mike's methylamine connection runs out, I could see Walt wanting Mike dead. He doesn't want him dead yet, but that moment's fast approaching.

Maybe but I don't think so. Walt needs Mike. He's gone down the path of trying to do things himself in the past and he's a smart guy. I think it goes beyond methylamine for Walt. Maybe his hubris does him in here but I don't see where he is even trying to get into the operations of it (that's "Mike's business")

Why would Saul want Walt alive? I just don't see it.

Saul could continue to make a healthy profit with just Mike/Jesse running things. Walt's a time bomb that will get them all killed or arrested. I think Saul sees this.

Saul's generally level-headed about the best way to handle these situations and has no qualms with using murder for the "greater" good ("Why don't you just kill Badger?").

Why would Saul prefer to work with Jesse or Mike? Jesse has been nothing but problems and is not a "leader". No way you expect to do major business with him. He's also much more of a loose cannon than Walt and Saul of all people knows this. Mike is the muscle. In the past Saul has shown much more fear of Mike than anyone else. Not saying it wouldn't cross Saul's mind but he's making a fortune here and isn't really in danger of anything. At least no more than he has been in the past.I think all 4 have reasons they don't want each other around. But I also think none of them are compelling enough at the moment to change the dynamic and off someone.

Gus was ready to off Walt and put Jesse in charge of the entire cooking operation. Gus was every bit as sensible and motivated as Mike to keep the operation running in capable hands.As far as Saul goes, that's trickier, but I think he's seen enough of Walt as a "leader" to see the benefit of working with Mike and Jesse exclusively.

In Breaking Bad time, it was what, two weeks ago, that Saul unsuccessfully tried to end his relationship with Walt?

That was right before Walt basically threatened to kill him, and has become more of a liability with every second.

Saul knows more about the real Heisenberg than any character and almost as much as the audience. We all know Walt is no good to anyone alive anymore. I have to think Saul knows too.

In the case of both Mike and Saul, it depends on how much money they could make with just Jesse cooking instead of the duo. I think they could still make significant sums (Jesse was cooking decent meth even before his year long master meth-chef apprenticeship), even if less, and I don't think the difference is enough to warrant letting Walt breath.

 

[DocGonzo]

It's just a watch. The seconds hand was symbolism of time running out.

Yep.Highly symbolic, on a few levels.

That's what my head tells me, and the symbolism was definitely evident from the start. I think you guys are on point on that one. My gut, though, can't shake the thought that the watch was intended for something beyond that blunt symbolism. They lingered on it a couple of times, and that last tick seemed/sounded .... different. Again, probably way off, but with this show you can never really tell. That was one of those episode endings that had me thinking "No! Just give me ten more minutes!"Was anyone else waiting for the moment when they got the call that Flynn Jr had died in a car accident? Skylar doesn't seem to need much more of a push to go completely over the edge, but that would certainly seem to do it.

What could a James Bond watch really do for anyone?Explode and kill Walt? Highly unlikely.Record Walt's actions (audio and/or video)? What would that gain?Poison Walt? I don't think so.

I dunno. Like I said, I tend to agree with you guys that it's just a watch and only had symbolic effect. There's just a part of me that isn't sure. I don't believe it's a bomb or anything like that , but a camera doesn't seem too far fetched. If Jesse took to heart what Walt said at the end of the previous episode (perhaps as a warning to him or as an indication that Walt might want to move against Mike) maybe he thought some surveillance might help him stay ahead. I get the sense that Jesse is beginning to grow a bit suspicious/leery of Walt. Mike has put cameras on Walt's house before, so it's not like it's totally out of the question they got together on this. I'm just spitballin' here. It's likely just a watch, but this show has used so many Chekhov's guns in the past that it might have conditioned me to look for them when they're not there.This thought also might be influenced by having watched Scarface earlier in the day. If you recall Tony getting busted when they were counting up the money. In that scene the clock on the wall had a camera in place of the 12. Maybe my addled brain is just inserting that into the mix.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

 

[Apple Jack]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

I think that was an act. Ted could do serious damage if he talked. She needs him to stay intimidated.

 

[FlapJacks]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

I think that was an act. Ted could do serious damage if he talked. She needs him to stay intimidated.

she was clearly visibly shaken. She managed to utter a confident sounding "good" but that was about it, as she was clealy sickened by it.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

I think that was an act. Ted could do serious damage if he talked. She needs him to stay intimidated.

Disagree, at first she was worried but then when she realized he was afraid of her, and that made her relished in the power of intimidation. Put it this way - she was wet when she left that hospital.

 

[identikit]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

I think that was an act. Ted could do serious damage if he talked. She needs him to stay intimidated.

Disagree, at first she was worried but then when she realized he was afraid of her, and that made her relished in the power of intimidation. Put it this way - she was wet when she left that hospital.

She was definitely shaken, but I think it was less act and more real.Ted was a guy that spurned every opportunity Skyler gave him to make a smart choice.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Ted was a guy that spurned every opportunity Skyler gave him to make a smart choice.

Yeah, I don't get why she feels any guilt at all over what happened to Ted.

 

[Apple Jack]

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[Apple Jack]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

I think that was an act. Ted could do serious damage if he talked. She needs him to stay intimidated.

Disagree, at first she was worried but then when she realized he was afraid of her, and that made her relished in the power of intimidation. Put it this way - she was wet when she left that hospital.

She was definitely shaken, but I think it was less act and more real.Ted was a guy that spurned every opportunity Skyler gave him to make a smart choice.

Where have we ever seen validation that Skylar gets off on being intimidating?

 

[identikit]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

I think that was an act. Ted could do serious damage if he talked. She needs him to stay intimidated.

Disagree, at first she was worried but then when she realized he was afraid of her, and that made her relished in the power of intimidation. Put it this way - she was wet when she left that hospital.

She was definitely shaken, but I think it was less act and more real.Ted was a guy that spurned every opportunity Skyler gave him to make a smart choice.

Where have we ever seen validation that Skylar gets off on being intimidating?

She's a mother.And a wife.

 

[pollardsvision]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

I think that was an act. Ted could do serious damage if he talked. She needs him to stay intimidated.

Disagree, at first she was worried but then when she realized he was afraid of her, and that made her relished in the power of intimidation. Put it this way - she was wet when she left that hospital.

She was definitely shaken, but I think it was less act and more real.Ted was a guy that spurned every opportunity Skyler gave him to make a smart choice.

Where have we ever seen validation that Skylar gets off on being intimidating?

She's a mother.And a wife.

And she chose to marry a weenie that she could control.

 

[Apple Jack]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

I think that was an act. Ted could do serious damage if he talked. She needs him to stay intimidated.

Disagree, at first she was worried but then when she realized he was afraid of her, and that made her relished in the power of intimidation. Put it this way - she was wet when she left that hospital.

She was definitely shaken, but I think it was less act and more real.Ted was a guy that spurned every opportunity Skyler gave him to make a smart choice.

Where have we ever seen validation that Skylar gets off on being intimidating?

She's a mother.And a wife.

And she chose to marry a weenie that she could control.

So because she has demonstrated that she's a typical woman, it's logical that she would all of the sudden enjoy making people fear for the lives of their families? I don't see it.

 

[identikit]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

I think that was an act. Ted could do serious damage if he talked. She needs him to stay intimidated.

Disagree, at first she was worried but then when she realized he was afraid of her, and that made her relished in the power of intimidation. Put it this way - she was wet when she left that hospital.

She was definitely shaken, but I think it was less act and more real.Ted was a guy that spurned every opportunity Skyler gave him to make a smart choice.

Where have we ever seen validation that Skylar gets off on being intimidating?

Bogdan.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

I don't think so. This has been brewing since Season 3.Skyler had been lying to herself about thuis whole thing (Denial), but with Walt bombing a nursing home, killing three and then seeing Ted all ####ed really shook her back to the reality of the situation. (depression then anger)

When she saw Ted she seemed to revel in the power.

I think that was an act. Ted could do serious damage if he talked. She needs him to stay intimidated.

Disagree, at first she was worried but then when she realized he was afraid of her, and that made her relished in the power of intimidation. Put it this way - she was wet when she left that hospital.

She was definitely shaken, but I think it was less act and more real.Ted was a guy that spurned every opportunity Skyler gave him to make a smart choice.

Where have we ever seen validation that Skylar gets off on being intimidating?

She's a mother.And a wife.

And she chose to marry a weenie that she could control.

So because she has demonstrated that she's a typical woman, it's logical that she would all of the sudden enjoy making people fear for the lives of their families? I don't see it.

She enjoyed putting Ted in his place because of their history. If you can't see it you are blind.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

If Mike had a guy at the DEA, it would have been an expense subtracted from the stacks of cash on the table.

How do we know it wasn't? Mike just took a whole bunch of cash for "legacy costs" or whatever. He didn't specify each person that the money was going to.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

If Mike had a guy at the DEA, it would have been an expense subtracted from the stacks of cash on the table.

How do we know it wasn't? Mike just took a whole bunch of cash for "legacy costs" or whatever. He didn't specify each person that the money was going to.

Another reason to think there's somebody dirty at the DEA is that the show made a point of noting that it was somebody from the Albuquerque P.D. that gave Hank the booklet from Gail's apartment. That wouldn't normally seem like an important detail, but it would be if the DEA is trying to thwart Hank's investigation.

 

[FlapJacks]

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The Price is Right, #####!

 

[Apple Jack]

[she enjoyed putting Ted in his place because of their history. If you can't see it you are blind.

I guess I'm blind, because when she walked into the room she was an emotional wreck about what happened to him. So on a dime she just decided f him and that she was this vicious I'll kill your family gangster, just out of spite? Okay.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

[she enjoyed putting Ted in his place because of their history. If you can't see it you are blind.

I guess I'm blind, because when she walked into the room she was an emotional wreck about what happened to him. So on a dime she just decided f him and that she was this vicious I'll kill your family gangster, just out of spite? Okay.

You really didn't see her reaction after she realized that he was not angry with her but fearful - she loved it.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

FSM saw what he wanted to see in that scene. That's your interpretation but not at all what most of us saw.

this "you either saw it or you're blind" shtick is kind of ridiculous.

 

[Sarnoff]

FSM saw what he wanted to see in that scene. That's your interpretation but not at all what most of us saw.this "you either saw it or you're blind" shtick is kind of ridiculous.

Apparently you're new here.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

If Mike had a guy at the DEA, it would have been an expense subtracted from the stacks of cash on the table.

How do we know it wasn't? Mike just took a whole bunch of cash for "legacy costs" or whatever. He didn't specify each person that the money was going to.

Another reason to think there's somebody dirty at the DEA is that the show made a point of noting that it was somebody from the Albuquerque P.D. that gave Hank the booklet from Gail's apartment. That wouldn't normally seem like an important detail, but it would be if the DEA is trying to thwart Hank's investigation.

The little tip off to me was that he specifically said he would need to give up the Fring case.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I gotta say...i love the way you guys dissect each episode. I read all the comments then go and watch the episodes again to see the things i didnt catch, thank you guys.

 

[Apple Jack]

[she enjoyed putting Ted in his place because of their history. If you can't see it you are blind.

I guess I'm blind, because when she walked into the room she was an emotional wreck about what happened to him. So on a dime she just decided f him and that she was this vicious I'll kill your family gangster, just out of spite? Okay.

You really didn't see her reaction after she realized that he was not angry with her but fearful - she loved it.

That reaction is what prompted this discussion. JFC.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

If Mike had a guy at the DEA, it would have been an expense subtracted from the stacks of cash on the table.

How do we know it wasn't? Mike just took a whole bunch of cash for "legacy costs" or whatever. He didn't specify each person that the money was going to.

Another reason to think there's somebody dirty at the DEA is that the show made a point of noting that it was somebody from the Albuquerque P.D. that gave Hank the booklet from Gail's apartment. That wouldn't normally seem like an important detail, but it would be if the DEA is trying to thwart Hank's investigation.

Oh wait, and what about the fact that Mike called Lydia to warn her right before the DEA showed up? How would he have known that?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

If Mike had a guy at the DEA, it would have been an expense subtracted from the stacks of cash on the table.

How do we know it wasn't? Mike just took a whole bunch of cash for "legacy costs" or whatever. He didn't specify each person that the money was going to.

Another reason to think there's somebody dirty at the DEA is that the show made a point of noting that it was somebody from the Albuquerque P.D. that gave Hank the booklet from Gail's apartment. That wouldn't normally seem like an important detail, but it would be if the DEA is trying to thwart Hank's investigation.

Oh wait, and what about the fact that Mike called Lydia to warn her right before the DEA showed up? How would he have known that?

with the hazard pay ongoing, Mike seems pretty dialed in still.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Or it's Gomez. He was pretty quick to dismiss Lydia. He also was against Hank's theory wasn't he? Although, he did do the whole dry cleaners sweep for him and took a picture of the fake machiene when he didn't have to. So he is probably clean.

Somebody with pull to get Hank off the case is dirty in the DEA.

 

[Beerguzzler]

I still don't see why Skyler can't go to the police.She could certainly get immunity for turning rat. I'm sure her DEA BIL would find it in his heart to help her get for her relatively minor crimes in order to bring down Heisenberg and his entire blue meth network.

A) She doesn't want her son to lose faith in his fatherB) She doesn't want to hear Marie chirping for every second of the rest of her lifeC) She doesn't want her family to be destitute.I've also been thinking about the opening scene of Season 5. Fairly sure that Walt is on the road for his new job as an insurance salesman and the M-16 is modified to disperse Raid to prevent the return of the fly.

Skylar is also doing all the money laundering. That's a pretty big reason.

 

[Christo]

A staged suicide for skyler seems probable.

I also think there is a good possibility that the DEA guy who just promoted hank did so to intentionally take him off the case and he is dirty.

I got that same vibe too.

I thought that was a little weird. Would the DEA really promote someone to that position from within the office? Isn't federal law enforcement like the military where they bring in new people without prior relationships with subordinates?

 

[corpcow]

I still don't see why Skyler can't go to the police.She could certainly get immunity for turning rat. I'm sure her DEA BIL would find it in his heart to help her get for her relatively minor crimes in order to bring down Heisenberg and his entire blue meth network.

A) She doesn't want her son to lose faith in his fatherB) She doesn't want to hear Marie chirping for every second of the rest of her lifeC) She doesn't want her family to be destitute.I've also been thinking about the opening scene of Season 5. Fairly sure that Walt is on the road for his new job as an insurance salesman and the M-16 is modified to disperse Raid to prevent the return of the fly.

Skylar is also doing all the money laundering. That's a pretty big reason.

The whole "appearance to Jr" is a big one, I think. Remember, he shot down the one plan (and she didn't argue) saying that Junior will think I beat you. It's all about appearances at this point.

 

[Christo]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

Nah, Walt evolved, Skyler snapped.

 

[tommyboy]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

Nah, Walt evolved, Skyler snapped.

right when Walt said, "its over, I won" at the end of season 4. sorry should have put a spoiler tag there.

 

[identikit]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

Nah, Walt evolved, Skyler snapped.

right when Walt said, "its over, I won" at the end of season 4. sorry should have put a spoiler tag there.

 

[corpcow]

A staged suicide for skyler seems probable.

I also think there is a good possibility that the DEA guy who just promoted hank did so to intentionally take him off the case and he is dirty.

I got that same vibe too.

I thought that was a little weird. Would the DEA really promote someone to that position from within the office? Isn't federal law enforcement like the military where they bring in new people without prior relationships with subordinates?

I could surely be wrong, but this was the last thing I thought during this whole thing. First, he's still going to be "in charge" of the investigation, and surely it will be one of the higher priority things. It just means he's not personally going to work on it. And Hank is a "hero" who they've promoted in the past, and then is being reconsidered (after being suspended or whatever) because he's shown great leadership et al. And he gave him a choice... not like he was reassigned or anything. I just don't see this "dirty" angle behind Hank's promotion. I'm not saying there aren't dirty DEA agents which may tie into the thing with Mike knowing about Lydia, but I don't think that's driving the promotion of Hank.

If anything, I think it goes back to Hank's obsession with the blue meth, and how he keeps getting close and circumstances distance himself from the details which are foreshadowing the inevitable showdown.

 

[Christo]

The Skylar storyline seems a little bit rushed and I think it needed to be more of a gradual change. It was only a few episodes ago that she was "OK" with everything, and how she finds this situation suddenly unbearable. Skylar threatening to beat herself up and then charge Walt with assault has got to be the lowest thing ever, at that point Walt need to find a way for her to disappear.

Nah, Walt evolved, Skyler snapped.

right when Walt said, "its over, I won" at the end of season 4. sorry should have put a spoiler tag there.

Where?

 

[Penguin]

I also think there is a good possibility that the DEA guy who just promoted hank did so to intentionally take him off the case and is dirty.

This is my exact feeling as well

 

[identikit]

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[JZilla]

I'll miss this old warrior:

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Agreed, I was kinda sad