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I think the Ricin is how he finishes himself off.
As someone else pointed out earlier, Ricin poisoning is not a pleasant way to go. It takes 36 to 72 fever, sweating, vomit and diarrhea filled hours.
Didn't see that. So who is it for? Lydia? That blonde kid who shot the child?
:shrug: Your guess is as good as mine.

One thing about the ricin that I haven't seen mentioned much- unless he was retrieving it for safety purposes, the only reasons he'd need it is if (1) he was planning on sticking around for a while and wanted to get away with the crime; or (2) he was planning to kill someone he was meeting in a public place who he couldn't get close to in private. Otherwise why bother with the ricin? Just draw a gun and pull the trigger; if you're on your way out it doesn't matter to you. And clearly Walt has no problem obtaining firearms.
I think a lot has been made about Lydia (except for the car wash) always drinking a glass of "tea" (aka hot water with lemon and Stevia). While at first that was a character device, I wouldn't be surprised if that comes back into play with the Ricin. That's my guess anyways, it's a good bet her Czech associates don't know who Walt is, so by taking her out he eliminates the threat from that direction.
Walt also intended on killing her with the ricin at their meeting where she tossed out the czech idea and provided the ten names.

 
Jesse's always been emotionally fragile so it's not completely out of character for him to be morose again. But the last time we saw him he appeared to be more stable (as stable as he can be anyway) and really wanted his money. Seems weird to me that in a few months (however long it's been) time he'd become completely shattered after being given the money he clearly wanted. All because Mike's gone?
He was pretty paranoid already when Walt came over to drop off the money.
That's because he thought Walt was coming to kill him. Once Walt left and left the money Jesse had everything he insisted he wanted. He was out of the business and had his money.
And the reason he thought Walt was coming to kill him was because he determined that Walt had killed Mike if he was able to kill all the guys in jail. Jesse just realized he's worked with and helped create a monster and regrets what they've done to earn that money. Note that Jesse didn't ask for his money when Walt was there this time.
I don't really get why Jesse didn't see Mike as a bit of a monster too.

 
Now that I think about it, I like the ricin theme. I think it's a microcosm for Walt: works slowly, methodically, but is absurdly deadly and poisonous to anyone. I think Walt sees the ricin as his means for killing someone: almost sort of as the only weapon intellectual enough to do his name right.

Walt seemed totally fine with killing a kid with it. He also intended it for Lydia with no qualms. However, when Walt used a gun to kill Mike, he seemed emotionally worked up about it and seemed to be contemplating almost apologizing. Bear in mind, Mike clearly had no qualms about killing Walt (during the Gail incident) and Walt has shown no remorse really through season six for anything.

A gun makes it "real" an emotional for Walt. Ricin makes it "smart" and somehow okay for Walt.

 
GordonGekko said:
Who is alive at this point? Does Walt have cancer? Why did he drive back across the country after being gone for some period of time? What could possibly have happened that makes him want to kill? That to me, is the biggest question
It's all a misdirection. In the Denny's, where Jim Beaver, the gun dealer meets him and exchanges cars, Walt picks up the M60 machine gun. If Walt was outed as Heisenberg, and that's public, there is no way he's out in public eating in a restaurant and there is no way a gun dealer, no matter how much they like money, would want to risk dealing with someone so high profile and public at that point. The Jim Beaver character, despite a couple of short scenes, is shown as pragmatic and logical and very discrete. There's no chance he'd give Walt the M60 if Walt was "on the run" and have that weapon possibly traced back to him somehow.

The Carol neighbor is another misdirection. She's not in shock because Walt is known publicly as Heisenberg, she's shocked because it's assumed Walt is dead.

"Heisenberg" in that house could be a common tag or graffitti at that point in the show.

There is only one true "endgame" from a writers standpoint. Everything Walt has been involved in, Hank has been involved in, but mostly without Hank's knowledge.

Hank has a bald head/shaved head like Heisenberg.

Hank has all the information through his job to meet connections in the drug world.

Hank has all the experience with drugs to be a credible ring leader of a massive drug operation

Hank has been at the center of a lot "violence" regarding the blue meth. He shot Tuco to death. He killed the twins in the parking lot. He was the one who persisted on Gus Fring, and he was the last person to see Fring before he blew up in a nursing home. As a drug lord, Hank has motive to kill all his rivals, including all the cartel members.

Hank "survived" the turtle/Danny Trejo head bombing, which killed a ton of law enforcement agents. What a coincidence.

Hank "knew" which evidence holding area had the laptop, and had it destroyed.

Hank would have the connections and means through law enforcement to conduct a multi stage hit across several facilities all at once.

Hank has many expensive rehab and medical bills paid for, but it's not commensurate with his actual income. His only contention is that his brother in law and sister in law, one with cancer, the other only a part time book keeper, were able to keep him afloat with gambling money.

Hank beat Jesse Pinkman, someone at the center of all of this mess. Miraculously Pinkman recants wanting to press charges. Miraculously as Hank looks to lose his badge, he's a hero for killing the twins.

Hank "forces" Walt and Skylar to run the carwash to launder money, to distance himself from it, threatening them to do it. Hank "takes in" Walt's kids as leverage and to threaten him.

Walt's ONLY play is saddle the Heisenberg personality and activity onto Hank. Walt and his family are passed off as dead for their own protection and put into government WitSec, given new identities and a new location, to protect them from "Hank"

Hank is the only truly moral and redeeming character in the entire show. He was willing to take in Walt's kids. He was willing to take responsibility for Skylar and the children financially if Walt died. Even when he beat Pinkman, he was remorseful and acknowledged maybe he should lose his job. He has tried to guide and be a positive influence on "Flynn" The worst thing you could say about him is his treatment of his wife after he was shot.

In order for Walt to "break bad" and never come back from it, he has to burn down the only truly good man he knows. And he can always say that any involvement on his part was by being tricked by Hank or coerced by Hank or enticed by Hank to say that the exchange would be to take care of Walts family after he died. That Hank forced Walt to put a former student, Pinkman, on his radar to be used.

What is more plausible to the press and law enforcement? A veteran DEA supervisor "breaks bad" and becomes a powerful underground drug lord or that a mild mannered Chemistry teacher, a dying one with a crippled son and a newborn, with a wife with limited job prospects with no connections and no criminal history would be one of the most powerful people in the entire drug trade across the world?

The show is going to end where it began, with Walt dying and leaving his family behind saddled in debt and with no future and limited prospects in front of them.
A decent theory, although if Walt was with his family, he wouldn't have been eating his birthday breakfast alone at Denny's...Also, he looks totally demoralized to me in the flash forwards..

 
Jesse's always been emotionally fragile so it's not completely out of character for him to be morose again. But the last time we saw him he appeared to be more stable (as stable as he can be anyway) and really wanted his money. Seems weird to me that in a few months (however long it's been) time he'd become completely shattered after being given the money he clearly wanted. All because Mike's gone?
He was pretty paranoid already when Walt came over to drop off the money.
That's because he thought Walt was coming to kill him. Once Walt left and left the money Jesse had everything he insisted he wanted. He was out of the business and had his money.
And the reason he thought Walt was coming to kill him was because he determined that Walt had killed Mike if he was able to kill all the guys in jail. Jesse just realized he's worked with and helped create a monster and regrets what they've done to earn that money. Note that Jesse didn't ask for his money when Walt was there this time.
I don't really get why Jesse didn't see Mike as a bit of a monster too.
Mike seems like he carried himself in a manner that he basically had a job to do and dealt with people honorably.

(Jesse offering up his cash when Walt and Mike were arguing about splitting money for Mikes guys)

He has seen Walt go from Mr. White to full on crazy mode.

 
Jesse's always been emotionally fragile so it's not completely out of character for him to be morose again. But the last time we saw him he appeared to be more stable (as stable as he can be anyway) and really wanted his money. Seems weird to me that in a few months (however long it's been) time he'd become completely shattered after being given the money he clearly wanted. All because Mike's gone?
He was pretty paranoid already when Walt came over to drop off the money.
That's because he thought Walt was coming to kill him. Once Walt left and left the money Jesse had everything he insisted he wanted. He was out of the business and had his money.
And the reason he thought Walt was coming to kill him was because he determined that Walt had killed Mike if he was able to kill all the guys in jail. Jesse just realized he's worked with and helped create a monster and regrets what they've done to earn that money. Note that Jesse didn't ask for his money when Walt was there this time.
I don't really get why Jesse didn't see Mike as a bit of a monster too.
Well, he did at first. In fact, he thought Mike was going to kill him during that first dead drop trip (and mike wanted to kill him actually), but Gus had a plan to build trust and strength back in Jesse, when Jesse wasn't caring for his own well-being at all. Mike and Jesse ended up actually building a relationship and caring for each other, as much as loner criminal hitmen can care about people that is.

 
GordonGekko said:
if walt faked his death, then why would he go back to his house in broad daylight? why not wait until nighttime to conceal himself better? and why go eat at denny's? why isnt he down in cabo banging hot chicks on top of his piles of money? what do you think about that, smart guy?
Walt wouldn't fake his own death, WitSec, the witness protection program run by the US Marshals service would fake Walt's death.

Whomever runs the blue meth operation in the eyes of law enforcement, would get credit for Fring wiping out the cartel. Law enforcement doesn't know the whole story there, "Heisenberg" gets credit for that, gets credit for wiping out Fring, wiping out the old drug lord in the nursing home, wiping out Tuco and the twins.

Law enforcements knows the blue meth was a high level drug operation, able to produce the drugs in an industrial grade lab environment, and able to coordinate a multi stage hit on multiple witnesses across several correctional facilities within a limited time frame.

Just facing a major drug operation is one thing. Facing one that law enforcement believes has the experience, contacts and resources like Hank, a veteran high profile, high ranking member of the DEA is ten times the threat.

If Hank was hunting Walt, he would know how WitSec would operate, how they would plan, what strategies they would use. Hank is an "insider" in the world of law enforcement. He knows how the paperwork moves, the bureaucracy, the tendencies. The easiest move is to fake Walt's death to protect him, give him another identity. The US Marshals have no idea how deep the corruption regarding the blue meth has infiltrated law enforcement.

Walt goes back in broad daylight to get the gun, and then to be seen. He wants to be seen, because he wants Hank to come to him. Walt has left his cover identity behind to tie up loose ends. He's letting Hank know, Here I am, I'm still alive, come and get me. He also probably has federal law enforcement, the DEA, the FBI and the US Marshals service hot on his trail as well to try to get him back.

When you hunt, you don't chase the deer, you wait, you find a good position, you arm up, and you wait for the deer to walk across your path.

And yes, since you are asking, I'm infinitely smarter than you.

Basic TV/Movie Writing 101 - All good writing for the visual medium requires a rhythm between setup and payoff. Set up the scenario, pay off the storyline to satisfy the audience. Maximus is the general, loved by his men, loved by Marcus Aurileus, loved by the Caesar's daughter and the chosen heir to Rome. He loses his family, is enslaved, and loses his freedom. Set up, set up, set up. He turns Rome against Commodus and then kills him. Payoff.

For 5 seasons, Hank has been one small step behind the entire time, from catching Walt. While other threats come and go, Hank is the closest threat to Walt and the most dangerous. Set up. Set up. Set up. Basic writing convention dictates that the resolution with Hank is the ultimate payoff. That means at some point, Walt will have had to have killed Marie. It's the only other move that ensures a pure collision course.

Vince GIlligan never tips his hand so early and so openly. Walt walking past the graffitti of Heisenberg in red spray paint. Do you think he really wants to tell us now that Walt is outed as Heisenberg or do you think he wants the audience to believe that for now?
Wait a minute. So you have the set up being that Hank takes the fall for Heisenberg, and Walt is cooperating with the government basically in that con, right? And Walt is put into witness protection via faking his own death, in order to fake out Hank, right? So then wouldn't Hank be arrested at this point, 9 months or so later? Walt wouldn't be coming back to draw Hank out then. That makes no sense.

Setting up Hank as Heisenberg is a real possibility, but the rest of it is kind of garbage.

 
GordonGekko said:
"Heisenberg" in that house could be a common tag or graffitti at that point in the show.
I'm thinking this Heisenberg was a message to Walt at some point, a threat to his family, before the house is abandoned.

 
I think the Ricin is how he finishes himself off.
As someone else pointed out earlier, Ricin poisoning is not a pleasant way to go. It takes 36 to 72 fever, sweating, vomit and diarrhea filled hours.
Didn't see that. So who is it for? Lydia? That blonde kid who shot the child?
:shrug: Your guess is as good as mine.

One thing about the ricin that I haven't seen mentioned much- unless he was retrieving it for safety purposes, the only reasons he'd need it is if (1) he was planning on sticking around for a while and wanted to get away with the crime; or (2) he was planning to kill someone he was meeting in a public place who he couldn't get close to in private. Otherwise why bother with the ricin? Just draw a gun and pull the trigger; if you're on your way out it doesn't matter to you. And clearly Walt has no problem obtaining firearms.
I think a lot has been made about Lydia (except for the car wash) always drinking a glass of "tea" (aka hot water with lemon and Stevia). While at first that was a character device, I wouldn't be surprised if that comes back into play with the Ricin. That's my guess anyways, it's a good bet her Czech associates don't know who Walt is, so by taking her out he eliminates the threat from that direction.
Well, Walt did have the ricin with him at the coffee shop when Walt met Lydia to obtain the list of Mike's friends in prison.

 
GordonGekko said:
"Heisenberg" in that house could be a common tag or graffitti at that point in the show.
I'm thinking this Heisenberg was a message to Walt at some point, a threat to his family, before the house is abandoned.
I agree.

I can easily see someone who knows what Walt is (Hank) stirring the pot and making him nervious or the famiy nervous. Maybe they figure if they get to Skyler it will make his life uncomfortable where they make a mistake.

 
It is interesting, that for all the damn ricin talk, it is yet to actually be used on anybody. Maybe it finally will be?
I'm thinking Lydia. Get her to meet him at their normal table at the coffee shop, where he has pre-positioned Stevia packets laced with the ricin.

 
GordonGekko said:
if walt faked his death, then why would he go back to his house in broad daylight? why not wait until nighttime to conceal himself better? and why go eat at denny's? why isnt he down in cabo banging hot chicks on top of his piles of money? what do you think about that, smart guy?
Walt wouldn't fake his own death, WitSec, the witness protection program run by the US Marshals service would fake Walt's death.

Whomever runs the blue meth operation in the eyes of law enforcement, would get credit for Fring wiping out the cartel. Law enforcement doesn't know the whole story there, "Heisenberg" gets credit for that, gets credit for wiping out Fring, wiping out the old drug lord in the nursing home, wiping out Tuco and the twins.

Law enforcements knows the blue meth was a high level drug operation, able to produce the drugs in an industrial grade lab environment, and able to coordinate a multi stage hit on multiple witnesses across several correctional facilities within a limited time frame.

Just facing a major drug operation is one thing. Facing one that law enforcement believes has the experience, contacts and resources like Hank, a veteran high profile, high ranking member of the DEA is ten times the threat.

If Hank was hunting Walt, he would know how WitSec would operate, how they would plan, what strategies they would use. Hank is an "insider" in the world of law enforcement. He knows how the paperwork moves, the bureaucracy, the tendencies. The easiest move is to fake Walt's death to protect him, give him another identity. The US Marshals have no idea how deep the corruption regarding the blue meth has infiltrated law enforcement.

Walt goes back in broad daylight to get the gun, and then to be seen. He wants to be seen, because he wants Hank to come to him. Walt has left his cover identity behind to tie up loose ends. He's letting Hank know, Here I am, I'm still alive, come and get me. He also probably has federal law enforcement, the DEA, the FBI and the US Marshals service hot on his trail as well to try to get him back.

When you hunt, you don't chase the deer, you wait, you find a good position, you arm up, and you wait for the deer to walk across your path.

And yes, since you are asking, I'm infinitely smarter than you.

Basic TV/Movie Writing 101 - All good writing for the visual medium requires a rhythm between setup and payoff. Set up the scenario, pay off the storyline to satisfy the audience. Maximus is the general, loved by his men, loved by Marcus Aurileus, loved by the Caesar's daughter and the chosen heir to Rome. He loses his family, is enslaved, and loses his freedom. Set up, set up, set up. He turns Rome against Commodus and then kills him. Payoff.

For 5 seasons, Hank has been one small step behind the entire time, from catching Walt. While other threats come and go, Hank is the closest threat to Walt and the most dangerous. Set up. Set up. Set up. Basic writing convention dictates that the resolution with Hank is the ultimate payoff. That means at some point, Walt will have had to have killed Marie. It's the only other move that ensures a pure collision course.

Vince GIlligan never tips his hand so early and so openly. Walt walking past the graffitti of Heisenberg in red spray paint. Do you think he really wants to tell us now that Walt is outed as Heisenberg or do you think he wants the audience to believe that for now?
Walt could have contact Saul's Mr. Disappear guy. I think that is more likely. Walt got exposed and vanished with his loot.

 
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GordonGekko said:
Wait a minute. So you have the set up being that Hank takes the fall for Heisenberg, and Walt is cooperating with the government basically in that con, right? And Walt is put into witness protection via faking his own death, in order to fake out Hank, right? So then wouldn't Hank be arrested at this point, 9 months or so later? Walt wouldn't be coming back to draw Hank out then. That makes no sense.

Setting up Hank as Heisenberg is a real possibility, but the rest of it is kind of garbage.
- Walt, seeing Hank close in on him, has to find a way to neutralize Hank. His options are to kill Hank or to have Hank take the fall for Heisenberg. I believe there is a part of Walt that does not want to kill Hank. Walt has begged for Hank's life before with Fring and I think Walt recognizes that Hank is truly a fundamentally good person who has done nothing but try to help him and Skylar and their children.

- Walt, with his neck on the chopping block and looking like he is about to get caught, convinces Gomez that Hank is actually Heisenberg and that any Walt involvement is coerced or Walt was an innocent naive person being duped. Walt inadvertently kills Marie, but the blame falls to Hank. This ensures Hank will be relentless and hunt Walt. Hank, realizing the mounting evidence against him, goes on the run. He believes it's the only chance to clear his good name and make Walt pay. Hank, as veteran law enforcement, has the knowledge and skills to avoid being caught, at least long enough to end the show.

- Law enforcement, believing Hank is Heisenberg, will fake Walt's death and his families death to try to hide them in WitSec. In exchange for Walt's future testimony against Hank, where Hank is concocted by Walt as the kingpin of the operation. This is done because Hank and the blue meth operation is seen as that kind of high level threat ( where it can kill cartel members and bomb nursing homes and cause massive death in multiple correctional facilities)

- Hank is able to convince Jesse Pinkman, through leverage Hule, that it was Walt who poisoned the boy, the one thing that would turn Pinkman against Walt and to come clean and testify against Walt.

- Because Hank has Pinkman, Walt escapes from his cover identity, leaving his wife and kids behind, and attempts to draw out Hank and Jesse, to end them before they can do any more damage to him and his concocted story.

This pay offs multiple story lines

- Jesse's overiding guilt and need for some kind of redemptive action for all the damage he has done being associated with Walt

- Karmic retribution for poisoning the child to get Jesse on his side against Fring

- Hanks lack of appreciation for Marie

- Walt's act of moving to a point of no return, to turn on the only good man he knows

- Skylar so worried about her family, that she realizes her involvement with the drugs cost her the only sister she has

- The running theme in the DEA that the threat is right under your nose, and is someone closest to you.

- In order for Walt to be the man he truly is deep inside, it has to cost him everything and everyone he loves
How would you explain "Heisenberg" being sprayed in Walt's house and the neighbor terrified of Walt?

 
I watched that scene again where he goes to his house and his neighbor Carol sees him and is either stunned or terrified ...my question is does anyone think Walt will allow her to live now that shes has seen him and his car?

 
I watched that scene again where he goes to his house and his neighbor Carol sees him and is either stunned or terrified ...my question is does anyone think Walt will allow her to live now that shes has seen him and his car?
Seems like he is going directly to the showdown. He could have tried to conceal himself better. Gone at night. Doesn't seem like he is worried about her calling the police.

 
pet peeve...

SkylEr

...which I'm sure will lead to people spelling her name incorrectly even more so now

.
My biggest pet peeve has become "Hi Carol". It's "HELLO Carol"

Even the gif of him saying "Hello Carol" was labeled "Hi Carol"

"Hello Carol" is far different than "Hi Carol".

And Walter White has much chance of saying "Hi Carol" as Hannibal Lecter has of saying "Hi Clarice"

I don't really care about the 2nd vowel in Skyler, though.

 
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I watched that scene again where he goes to his house and his neighbor Carol sees him and is either stunned or terrified ...my question is does anyone think Walt will allow her to live now that shes has seen him and his car?
I get the impression that we're at the point where the end game is hours away.

 
I watched that scene again where he goes to his house and his neighbor Carol sees him and is either stunned or terrified ...my question is does anyone think Walt will allow her to live now that shes has seen him and his car?
I get the impression that we're at the point where the end game is hours away.
Makes sense. Plus, if Walt was worried about being seen he wouldn't have gone to the house in broad daylight.

 
I watched that scene again where he goes to his house and his neighbor Carol sees him and is either stunned or terrified ...my question is does anyone think Walt will allow her to live now that shes has seen him and his car?
I get the impression that we're at the point where the end game is hours away.
Normally, I'd say this is obvious. But Gilligan can be tricky like that.

 
What's great is we will be getting basically 2 if not 3 finales; 1) wrapping up the present day and sending Walt away and 2a) whatever happens making him comeback and 2b)that conclusion. So episodes 7-8 for sure, maybe 6. Lots to cover!

 
pet peeve...

SkylEr

...which I'm sure will lead to people spelling her name incorrectly even more so now

.
My biggest pet peeve has become "Hi Carol". It's "HELLO Carol"

Even the gif of him saying "Hello Carol" was labeled "Hi Carol"

"Hello Carol" is far different than "Hi Carol".

And Walter White has much chance of saying "Hi Carol" as Hannibal Lecter has of saying "Hi Clarice"

I don't really care about the 2nd vowel in Skyler, though.
I worked with a GUY named Skylar. :shrug:

 
pet peeve...

SkylEr

...which I'm sure will lead to people spelling her name incorrectly even more so now

.
My biggest pet peeve has become "Hi Carol". It's "HELLO Carol"

Even the gif of him saying "Hello Carol" was labeled "Hi Carol"

"Hello Carol" is far different than "Hi Carol".

And Walter White has much chance of saying "Hi Carol" as Hannibal Lecter has of saying "Hi Clarice"

I don't really care about the 2nd vowel in Skyler, though.
I worked with a GUY named Skylar. :shrug:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuyler_Colfax

 
"Chickens"... no? I think I missed the point.
The kingpin that runs all the chicken joints - the black guy with the glasses you saw right before the message. Now Walt is really obligated to be the "bad guy."
:urkel: :kicksrock:
RIP Gus :pours40:
man, the more I think of what an awesome business conglomerate Gus created and had functioning on a high level, I'm even more upset at Walt for ####### everything up. It it wasn't for Walt and Gus was running things the world would be a lot safer place if you're an innocent bystander. Big ups to Mike for telling Walt to piss off when Walt wanted thanks and praise for all his 'work'.

 
An ending where hank is framed is stupid and would be disappointing. For starters, the case has been closed two or three times and everyone around it knows that hank is the one still looking in to it.

 
pet peeve...

SkylEr

...which I'm sure will lead to people spelling her name incorrectly even more so now

.
My biggest pet peeve has become "Hi Carol". It's "HELLO Carol"

Even the gif of him saying "Hello Carol" was labeled "Hi Carol"

"Hello Carol" is far different than "Hi Carol".

And Walter White has much chance of saying "Hi Carol" as Hannibal Lecter has of saying "Hi Clarice"

I don't really care about the 2nd vowel in Skyler, though.
I worked with a GUY named Skylar. :shrug:
Nothing wrong with wanting to see it spelled right. Just saying it doesn't bother me, even though other seemingly pointless things do.

That, and I thought it was Skylar for the first 4 seasons.

 
Nothing wrong with wanting to see it spelled right. Just saying it doesn't bother me, even though other seemingly pointless things do.

That, and I thought it was Skylar for the first 4 seasons.
It wouldn't bother me so much if the guy named Skylar wasn't such a difficult stuck up person to work with, painful office memories.

What order do these characters die if at all?

Skyler

Jessie

Lydia

Todd (aka Landry)

.

 
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Nothing wrong with wanting to see it spelled right. Just saying it doesn't bother me, even though other seemingly pointless things do.

That, and I thought it was Skylar for the first 4 seasons.
It wouldn't bother me so much if the guy named Skylar wasn't such a difficult stuck up person to work with, painful office memories.

What order do these characters die if at all?

Skyler

Jessie

Lydia

Todd (aka Landry)

.
In order:

Jesse- Kills himself or goes down in a blaze of glory in the next episode or two.

Lydia- Nags at Walt until he has to kill her. Has bigger ties to Czech than thought, death sets off powder keg

Todd- Todd starts making waves and dies with gang that sticks up for him.

Skyler- Witness Protection.

 
An ending where hank is framed is stupid and would be disappointing. For starters, the case has been closed two or three times and everyone around it knows that hank is the one still looking in to it.
Yeah the more you think about the theory, the less it makes sense.

 
Nothing wrong with wanting to see it spelled right. Just saying it doesn't bother me, even though other seemingly pointless things do. That, and I thought it was Skylar for the first 4 seasons.
It wouldn't bother me so much if the guy named Skylar wasn't such a difficult stuck up person to work with, painful office memories.What order do these characters die if at all?SkylerJessieLydiaTodd (aka Landry).
LydiaJessie

Skyler

Todd standing over a dying Walt saying Heisenberg is the final scene.

 
My boss mentioned a detail I missed - the house appears to have been seized by the City of Abq and not the DEA. Not sure if it would say DEA if they did it or "federal govt" or whatever, but I thought that was intereting.
Just watched it. WW also has a full head of hair in the flash forward--not something you'd expect on a cancer victim.
Totally normal for someone who's given up hope of a cure and quit the chemo.
He is on the run from the law. I am not sure he would want to check into any hospital.

 

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