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Breaking Bad on AMC (4 Viewers)

I thought this weeks episode would end Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid style. Fade to black and shots ring out sort of thing.

I think punching holes in tv's and movies is normal but I don't see the point in not suspending reality for the sake of enjoyment.

 
I think most of us are glossing over the fact that the Nazis and (by proxy) Walt are shooting at and are going to kill two Federal Agents. For the most part, their lives as they know it are over. I don't think there's going to be a meth business anymore. Logically, if the Nazis are into self preservation...it makes more sense to kill Hank, Gomey, Jesse and Walt....and tell Lydia to stick it in regards to her concerns of purity.
What would lead the rest of the DEA back to the Nazis? HONKS and Gomezz were essentially running a black operation, right?

 
I agree that it makes no sense for Gomer to be the mole, but it is amazing how quickly he always wants to give up.

Hank comes back and says that the rental van place has no GPS.

Gomer: Well, that's it. Game over.

Bill Simmons and Andy Greenwald suggested in yesterday's podcast that maybe pretty much everyone is dead except for a fatally wounded Hank and then Walt has to put him out of his misery. I'm sure that the logic police won't like that, but that would be a pretty intense scene.
Even all the Nazis? :lmao:
I know, I know, doesn't really make sense. I just really want that scene.
Maybe the Nazis demand that he puts Hank out??
damn dyslexia, temporarily swapped the words Hank and puts. :mellow:

 
I think most of us are glossing over the fact that the Nazis and (by proxy) Walt are shooting at and are going to kill two Federal Agents. For the most part, their lives as they know it are over. I don't think there's going to be a meth business anymore. Logically, if the Nazis are into self preservation...it makes more sense to kill Hank, Gomey, Jesse and Walt....and tell Lydia to stick it in regards to her concerns of purity.
What would lead the rest of the DEA back to the Nazis? HONKS and Gomezz were essentially running a black operation, right?
Jessie and/or Walt's cell phone...both of which the Nazi's can control

 
I thought this weeks episode would end Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid style. Fade to black and shots ring out sort of thing.

I think punching holes in tv's and movies is normal but I don't see the point in not suspending reality for the sake of enjoyment.
I do while I'm watching. But it's hard not to look at it critically once it's over.

 
For those that find the shootout's lack of casualties unbelievable, sometimes a little perspective is all you need.
Plenty close to hit with an assault rifle with no problems, especially before they took cover behind the car. One of the guys had a freaking M4. First time I ever picked one of those up at a range I had never fired a rifle before and it was virtually impossible to miss the target from about that same distance.
I bet your show is gonna be awesome and totally real life man.
If you're on a message board I think it's ok to point out that one scene on an awesome show was done in a less than stellar way. That shot is nothing with an M4...dudes should be riddled with bullets. :shrug: Could have been done a little better, but we'll all be ok.
Yea but it's a TV show. Either buy in or don't, I guess. I thought the magnets at the police station was by far the most implausible scene they've done, but it didn't detract from my enjoyment any.
Gus walking out of Tio's room and fixing his tie with half his face blown off was fairly implausible.

 
I agree that it makes no sense for Gomer to be the mole, but it is amazing how quickly he always wants to give up.

Hank comes back and says that the rental van place has no GPS.

Gomer: Well, that's it. Game over.

Bill Simmons and Andy Greenwald suggested in yesterday's podcast that maybe pretty much everyone is dead except for a fatally wounded Hank and then Walt has to put him out of his misery. I'm sure that the logic police won't like that, but that would be a pretty intense scene.
Even all the Nazis? :lmao:
I know, I know, doesn't really make sense. I just really want that scene.
Simmons is the king of half-baked theories, but that might be the best of the lot. Unless Gomer is hiding a bazooka in his sock.
Honk has the ricin bullets Walt made.

 
I think most of us are glossing over the fact that the Nazis and (by proxy) Walt are shooting at and are going to kill two Federal Agents. For the most part, their lives as they know it are over. I don't think there's going to be a meth business anymore. Logically, if the Nazis are into self preservation...it makes more sense to kill Hank, Gomey, Jesse and Walt....and tell Lydia to stick it in regards to her concerns of purity.
What would lead the rest of the DEA back to the Nazis? HONKS and Gomezz were essentially running a black operation, right?
Jessie and/or Walt's cell phone...both of which the Nazi's can control
Possible. We know that while these Neo-Nazis are up to something, they certainly aren't the brightest bulbs.

More likely is that Marie tells the DEA that Hank was after Walt, but obviously Walt will be gone too. Can they tie Walt to the nazis?

 
And, we obviously know that Walt eventually goes down the warp pipe to NH. If the cops ever bring him into custody, it doesn't seem likely that he's going to get bail with (presumably) dead DEA agents involved, as well as a major meth operation. More likely he wiggles away from teh Nazis, right?

 
And, we obviously know that Walt eventually goes down the warp pipe to NH. If the cops ever bring him into custody, it doesn't seem likely that he's going to get bail with (presumably) dead DEA agents involved, as well as a major meth operation. More likely he wiggles away from teh Nazis, right?
Pretty sure that whole New Hampshire thing is a just a red herring or McMuffin or whatever to throw us off the scent. I think that whole thing where Walt buys the gun at Sambo's and then catches Jay Adams and his buddies in his pool was just a dream. It worked on "Dallas", right?

 
Why would walt save Jesse now? The entire reason the Nazi's are there is to kill Jesse. That's what started this. Walt hasn't suddenly changed his mind on Jesse. If anything he's even more scared of Jesse now that he knows he will work with the Feds AND try to get his (Walt's) money.
Redemption? Realizing he's been in over his head this whole time and ruined lives etc. We have seen Walt give up now, but haven't seen what makes him seemingly hit bottom and flee the area. It could be another life changing experience like his cancer that opens his eyes again.

 
Oh, and I just realized what Gus's backstory is from his time in Peru. He was a friggin General.

At the beginning of s3e7, Hector is on the phone discussing Gus while watching the two psycho cousins play in the yard. He says he won't work with Gus and says "I don't care who he knows. Big man. Big generalissimo. The chicken man."

Can't believe I never noticed that before.

 
Oh, and I just realized what Gus's backstory is from his time in Peru. He was a friggin General.

At the beginning of s3e7, Hector is on the phone discussing Gus while watching the two psycho cousins play in the yard. He says he won't work with Gus and says "I don't care who he knows. Big man. Big generalissimo. The chicken man."

Can't believe I never noticed that before.
Little is known about Gus' past. A Chilean national, Gus studied chemistry in the Universidad de Santiago de Chile and emigrated to Mexico in 1986 during the dictatorship of Augusto Pinochet.[4]^ With his longtime friend and partner, Maximino "Max" Arciniega, Gus started a chicken restaurant called Los Pollos Hermanos. Max was murdered by the Juárez cartel, leading Gus to emigrate to the United States in 1989, where he re-established Los Pollos Hermanos as a chain of fast-food restaurants. Using his restaurants' supply chain as a front, Gus began distributing drugs in the American southwest on behalf of the cartel, an operation that eventually grew to encompass methamphetamine.

Gus claims to have children, yet they have never been seen and little else about his family life has been revealed. It is implied that Fring may be using an alias; neither Hank nor Mike can find any record of his existence before his arrival to Mexico. Don Eladio, the cartel's leader, mentions that he spares Gus' life only because he knows who Gus is, and warns him that he "isn't in Chile anymore"; in a flashback scene, Hector Salamanca mockingly refers to him as "Grand Generalissimo". Gilligan has stated that he purposely left Gus' origin ambiguous, comparing it to the briefcase in Pulp Fiction.[5] Gus drives a Volvo V70, stating that he chose it for its "safety record".

 
I agree that it makes no sense for Gomer to be the mole, but it is amazing how quickly he always wants to give up.

Hank comes back and says that the rental van place has no GPS.

Gomer: Well, that's it. Game over.

Bill Simmons and Andy Greenwald suggested in yesterday's podcast that maybe pretty much everyone is dead except for a fatally wounded Hank and then Walt has to put him out of his misery. I'm sure that the logic police won't like that, but that would be a pretty intense scene.
I think you mean Nazi's.

Even all the Nazis? :lmao:
 
And, we obviously know that Walt eventually goes down the warp pipe to NH. If the cops ever bring him into custody, it doesn't seem likely that he's going to get bail with (presumably) dead DEA agents involved, as well as a major meth operation. More likely he wiggles away from teh Nazis, right?
Pretty sure that whole New Hampshire thing is a just a red herring or McMuffin or whatever to throw us off the scent. I think that whole thing where Walt buys the gun at Sambo's and then catches Jay Adams and his buddies in his pool was just a dream. It worked on "Dallas", right?
Jay Adams :lmao:

 
something i noticed on the rewatch, when hank is on the phone with marie while walt is in cuffs, hank mentions that he "may not be home for a while".

indeed.

 
I think it's at least possible Jesse and Walt team up again to go up against the nazis. Walt because they will have probably killed his brother in law and because they'll probably be trying to turn him into a slave cook (or just kill him to shut him up about hank). Jesse because the Nazis will be coming for him as a loose end, and maybe just because he doesn't like Todd.

 
These nazi's sure fooled mike in Todd's background check.
And there's no way any of those jugheads would have located Walt, especially as quickly as they did, from the coordinates he gave them. Uncle Jack probably added up all of the numbers on his hand to see if it equaled a nearby interstate.

 
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And then there’s Todd, whose dead-eyed turn from eager apprentice to remorseless, opportunistic killer makes him the scariest mother####er in the Breaking Bad universe right now. One minute, he’s agreeing to arrange a hit on Jesse without batting an eye, the next, he’s dispassionately pumping bullets in the general direction of whoever his Uncle Jack says stands between them and unlimited Czech drug cash. Todd is Jesse with no loyalty, Gale with no aesthetics, Mike with no code. He’s a tool who’s perfectly content with having no other identity than how others might want to use him.

From AV Club review. Thought this nailed Todd.

 
These nazi's sure fooled mike in Todd's background check.
Mike didn't miss the nazi's at all. In fact, he alluded to them when Todd brings up his uncle's prison connections when they triumvirate is about to debate his fate after the train robbery/child slaying.
 
These nazi's sure fooled mike in Todd's background check.
And there's no way any of those jugheads would have located Walt, especially as quickly as they did, from the coordinates he gave them. Uncle Jack probably added up all of the numbers on his hand to see if it equaled a nearby interstate.
Walt told them they were coordinates. You don't think Nazi militia types know how to use a gps? :confused:
 
I think most of us are glossing over the fact that the Nazis and (by proxy) Walt are shooting at and are going to kill two Federal Agents. For the most part, their lives as they know it are over. I don't think there's going to be a meth business anymore. Logically, if the Nazis are into self preservation...it makes more sense to kill Hank, Gomey, Jesse and Walt....and tell Lydia to stick it in regards to her concerns of purity.
What would lead the rest of the DEA back to the Nazis? HONKS and Gomezz were essentially running a black operation, right?
IIRC, it would reinforce the tie between Walt and the Nazis that HAD to be established after all the hits took place in the jails.

 
And, we obviously know that Walt eventually goes down the warp pipe to NH. If the cops ever bring him into custody, it doesn't seem likely that he's going to get bail with (presumably) dead DEA agents involved, as well as a major meth operation. More likely he wiggles away from teh Nazis, right?
Pretty sure that whole New Hampshire thing is a just a red herring or McMuffin or whatever to throw us off the scent. I think that whole thing where Walt buys the gun at Sambo's and then catches Jay Adams and his buddies in his pool was just a dream. It worked on "Dallas", right?
I think Walt may have had a NH drivers license, but no way he actually DRIVES to NH. He probably got the ID from Saul's guy and then laid low while arranging to get the big gun and go do whatever he is going to do with it.

 
These nazi's sure fooled mike in Todd's background check.
And there's no way any of those jugheads would have located Walt, especially as quickly as they did, from the coordinates he gave them. Uncle Jack probably added up all of the numbers on his hand to see if it equaled a nearby interstate.
Walt told them they were coordinates. You don't think Nazi militia types know how to use a gps? :confused:
They could be just sophisticated enough to own at least one smartphone between them like everybody else does in 2013.

 
These nazi's sure fooled mike in Todd's background check.
And there's no way any of those jugheads would have located Walt, especially as quickly as they did, from the coordinates he gave them. Uncle Jack probably added up all of the numbers on his hand to see if it equaled a nearby interstate.
Walt told them they were coordinates. You don't think Nazi militia types know how to use a gps? :confused:
They could be just sophisticated enough to own at least one smartphone between them like everybody else does in 2013.
Walt still has a sweet flip-phone!

 
These nazi's sure fooled mike in Todd's background check.
And there's no way any of those jugheads would have located Walt, especially as quickly as they did, from the coordinates he gave them. Uncle Jack probably added up all of the numbers on his hand to see if it equaled a nearby interstate.
Walt told them they were coordinates. You don't think Nazi militia types know how to use a gps? :confused:
They could be just sophisticated enough to own at least one smartphone between them like everybody else does in 2013.
Do we know what year it is? The whole series only covered like 1 year. I can't remember what the year is, though.

 
These nazi's sure fooled mike in Todd's background check.
And there's no way any of those jugheads would have located Walt, especially as quickly as they did, from the coordinates he gave them. Uncle Jack probably added up all of the numbers on his hand to see if it equaled a nearby interstate.
Walt told them they were coordinates. You don't think Nazi militia types know how to use a gps? :confused:
They could be just sophisticated enough to own at least one smartphone between them like everybody else does in 2013.
Walt still has a sweet flip-phone!
that apparently can translate gps coordinates

 
If that money is for Walt's family, who does he think is going to dig it up? Skieler, Flynn or Holly?

For that matter, how would they even know where it is if he were to die in a gunfight?

 
These nazi's sure fooled mike in Todd's background check.
And there's no way any of those jugheads would have located Walt, especially as quickly as they did, from the coordinates he gave them. Uncle Jack probably added up all of the numbers on his hand to see if it equaled a nearby interstate.
Walt told them they were coordinates. You don't think Nazi militia types know how to use a gps? :confused:
They could be just sophisticated enough to own at least one smartphone between them like everybody else does in 2013.
Walt still has a sweet flip-phone!
that apparently can translate gps coordinates
Walt had an actual GPS device, which he destroyed after burying the money.

 
Aside from how intense the last five episodes have been, I think the enjoyment and awe of the show are ratcheted up a notch because it still feels impossible to know how it's going to end. With sopranoes for example there were some loose ends needing tying up and the question of Tony living or dying. But it was fairly linear and in hindsight the whole arc at the end makes sense.

Breaking bad still features Lydia, Todd, jack and company, skylar, junior and the Baby, Marie, Saul, Jesse and hank and with a mere three episodes left all we know is they can't all survive but there isn't much direction as to who is going to survive. And the whole totality of the show will change based on the answer to that.

 
These nazi's sure fooled mike in Todd's background check.
And there's no way any of those jugheads would have located Walt, especially as quickly as they did, from the coordinates he gave them. Uncle Jack probably added up all of the numbers on his hand to see if it equaled a nearby interstate.
Walt told them they were coordinates. You don't think Nazi militia types know how to use a gps? :confused:
They could be just sophisticated enough to own at least one smartphone between them like everybody else does in 2013.
Its not 2013 in the show.

 
These nazi's sure fooled mike in Todd's background check.
And there's no way any of those jugheads would have located Walt, especially as quickly as they did, from the coordinates he gave them. Uncle Jack probably added up all of the numbers on his hand to see if it equaled a nearby interstate.
Walt told them they were coordinates. You don't think Nazi militia types know how to use a gps? :confused:
They could be just sophisticated enough to own at least one smartphone between them like everybody else does in 2013.
Its not 2013 in the show.
Walt is driving a 2013 Chrysler 300.

 

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