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They did a great job with the start of that scene. The phone is sitting on the counter. She is looking at it.....oops knife.
Exactly, I couldn't decide whether she was going for the Phone to call the police or grab a knife and slit Walt's throat
I must be the only one with a problem with this scene, hear me out.

By now we know that Skylar is no innocent babe in the woods, heck didn't she a few episodes ago want Jessie dead, so she is up to her neck in it, BUT suddenly she has found her morality because of the death of Hank,and in doing so has son having to defend her against Walt - when in fact it washer who slashed him with the knife.

Screw Skylar I hope the Nazis gang-rape her.

 
They did a great job with the start of that scene. The phone is sitting on the counter. She is looking at it.....oops knife.
Exactly, I couldn't decide whether she was going for the Phone to call the police or grab a knife and slit Walt's throat
I must be the only one with a problem with this scene, hear me out.

By now we know that Skylar is no innocent babe in the woods, heck didn't she a few episodes ago want Jessie dead, so she is up to her neck in it, BUT suddenly she has found her morality because of the death of Hank,and in doing so has son having to defend her against Walt - when in fact it washer who slashed him with the knife.

Screw Skylar I hope the Nazis gang-rape her.
As Hank put it so well, "Go F*** Yourself"

 
Everyone likes to speculate even though we're always wrong but here's my shot:

The conversation we hear in the preview to next week with Saul is actually a flashback of a conversation they have before he makes the call to Skyler. When Saul is talking about 'going after her', he's talking about the DEA and how Walt has to take all the blame to take the pressure off of Skyler.

The family, including Marie are put into witness protection. Walt is off in NH with his new life but isn't able to get legit cancer treatments because the feds are monitoring cancer treatment centers knowing that's the only way to find him.

The Heisenberg part of Walt died when his family refused to leave with him. He knows that his family will never come back to him and that they are hopefully are safe in witness protection. Walt looks back on everything that he has done and sees that it's for nothing. He's destroyed his family and the lives of countless others.

Walt hears that the blue meth is still out there and knows that means that Jesse is still alive and being forced to cook. Walt's last effort to redeem himself for everything that he's done is to return to New Mexico and destroy the legacy that he loved so much and also to free. He wants to wipe blue meth completely off the map and knows that he has to kill the Nazi's and also Lydia as they are the only people responsible for it still being out there. He's doing it not because of his ego but because he thinks it's the only thing left.

Walt's plan is to kill the Nazi's with the machine gun and then poison Lydia. He uses to Todd to find out where they are cooking and comes in and manages to fight off the nazis and free Jesse but not before they call for backup. Walt gets ready for the final showdown and thinks that Jesse will be by his side fighting. Jesse instead kills Walt but not before telling him that he'd rather be imprisoned as a meth cook for 50 more years than to see him take another breath.
No, Heisenberg was still going. Walt would not have taken Holly like that.
True.

 
They did a great job with the start of that scene. The phone is sitting on the counter. She is looking at it.....oops knife.
Exactly, I couldn't decide whether she was going for the Phone to call the police or grab a knife and slit Walt's throat
I must be the only one with a problem with this scene, hear me out.

By now we know that Skylar is no innocent babe in the woods, heck didn't she a few episodes ago want Jessie dead, so she is up to her neck in it, BUT suddenly she has found her morality because of the death of Hank,and in doing so has son having to defend her against Walt - when in fact it washer who slashed him with the knife.
That's why I was rooting for Walt in that scene too. I know Gilligan really wants us to empathize with Skyler but it's virtually impossible for me to do so.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Abraham said:
Todd keeps cooking for Lydia. Jack doesn't care about the purity of the product. He only agreed to let Todd take Jesse because Todd said they had history and he could get some use out of him.

Also, we've been talking about this episode for four pages and not one reference has been made to hanks possibly best line of the series "you're the smartest guy I know and you're too stupid to realiZe he made up his mind ten minutes ago."
Todd said he could get the info out if him, not that he could make use of him.
I clearly have no idea how it's all going to turn out, so this is just baseless speculation on my part:

Part of me thinks that Todd is keeping Jesse without the knowledge or consent of Uncle Jack and the Say Hey Fun Klan. Uncle Jack leaves no witnesses, takes no half measures, if you will. His mind was made up to kill Hank before any discussion of the buried money began and he never waivered from that, even if the scene was meant to give the audience some glimmer of hope that Hank would make it out alive. After shooting Hank, Uncle Jack was ready to kill and bury Walt with him. Uncle Jack is only interested in not leaving any loose ends out there. He has $80 million and if he wants to keep cooking and selling meth around the world he'll do it and he doesn't care one bit about the color or purity.

But Todd does.

Todd is infatuated with Lydia and he wants to be able to cook the product that she needs. He's managed to get Uncle Jack to let Walt go with a barrel of money, and Walt has made it pretty clear that he isn't interested in cooking any more. When Jesse turns up under the car, Todd sees an opportunity to use Jesse to impress Lydia. Maybe he has grander designs than just cooking meth well enough that she lets him sniff her butt, maybe not, but he sees an opportunity. He steps in and stops Jesse's execution. Uncle Jack goes along with it because, well, Todd is right. The knowledge about what Jesse told the DEA could be important. And if Todd wants to torture Jesse for a bit before he kills him, well, that's just fine with Uncle Jack as long as Jesse eventually ends up dead and can't come back to haunt the Say Hey Fun Klan. Todd gets the info, tells Uncle Jack that Jesse has been taken care of, then locks him in a pit by the cook site to only let him out when Todd is there, alone, cooking.

Todd's misstep in keeping Jesse alive leads to the renewed production of the blue meth. Uncle Jack and the Say Hey Fun Klan think Todd just figured out how to cook right. Lydia/Saul/Someone finds out Jesse is captive, word somehow gets to Walt and he buys a machine gun.

 
Everyone likes to speculate even though we're always wrong but here's my shot:

The conversation we hear in the preview to next week with Saul is actually a flashback of a conversation they have before he makes the call to Skyler. When Saul is talking about 'going after her', he's talking about the DEA and how Walt has to take all the blame to take the pressure off of Skyler.

The family, including Marie are put into witness protection. Walt is off in NH with his new life but isn't able to get legit cancer treatments because the feds are monitoring cancer treatment centers knowing that's the only way to find him.

The Heisenberg part of Walt died when his family refused to leave with him. He knows that his family will never come back to him and that they are hopefully are safe in witness protection. Walt looks back on everything that he has done and sees that it's for nothing. He's destroyed his family and the lives of countless others.

Walt hears that the blue meth is still out there and knows that means that Jesse is still alive and being forced to cook. Walt's last effort to redeem himself for everything that he's done is to return to New Mexico and destroy the legacy that he loved so much and also to free. He wants to wipe blue meth completely off the map and knows that he has to kill the Nazi's and also Lydia as they are the only people responsible for it still being out there. He's doing it not because of his ego but because he thinks it's the only thing left.

Walt's plan is to kill the Nazi's with the machine gun and then poison Lydia. He uses to Todd to find out where they are cooking and comes in and manages to fight off the nazis and free Jesse but not before they call for backup. Walt gets ready for the final showdown and thinks that Jesse will be by his side fighting. Jesse instead kills Walt but not before telling him that he'd rather be imprisoned as a meth cook for 50 more years than to see him take another breath.
I think similar tings. Just remember he can prob get cancer treatment. Remember he uses Saul's guy for new hidden identity.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Abraham said:
Todd keeps cooking for Lydia. Jack doesn't care about the purity of the product. He only agreed to let Todd take Jesse because Todd said they had history and he could get some use out of him.

Also, we've been talking about this episode for four pages and not one reference has been made to hanks possibly best line of the series "you're the smartest guy I know and you're too stupid to realiZe he made up his mind ten minutes ago."
Todd said he could get the info out if him, not that he could make use of him.
I clearly have no idea how it's all going to turn out, so this is just baseless speculation on my part:

Part of me thinks that Todd is keeping Jesse without the knowledge or consent of Uncle Jack and the Say Hey Fun Klan. Uncle Jack leaves no witnesses, takes no half measures, if you will. His mind was made up to kill Hank before any discussion of the buried money began and he never waivered from that, even if the scene was meant to give the audience some glimmer of hope that Hank would make it out alive. After shooting Hank, Uncle Jack was ready to kill and bury Walt with him. Uncle Jack is only interested in not leaving any loose ends out there. He has $80 million and if he wants to keep cooking and selling meth around the world he'll do it and he doesn't care one bit about the color or purity.

But Todd does.

Todd is infatuated with Lydia and he wants to be able to cook the product that she needs. He's managed to get Uncle Jack to let Walt go with a barrel of money, and Walt has made it pretty clear that he isn't interested in cooking any more. When Jesse turns up under the car, Todd sees an opportunity to use Jesse to impress Lydia. Maybe he has grander designs than just cooking meth well enough that she lets him sniff her butt, maybe not, but he sees an opportunity. He steps in and stops Jesse's execution. Uncle Jack goes along with it because, well, Todd is right. The knowledge about what Jesse told the DEA could be important. And if Todd wants to torture Jesse for a bit before he kills him, well, that's just fine with Uncle Jack as long as Jesse eventually ends up dead and can't come back to haunt the Say Hey Fun Klan. Todd gets the info, tells Uncle Jack that Jesse has been taken care of, then locks him in a pit by the cook site to only let him out when Todd is there, alone, cooking.

Todd's misstep in keeping Jesse alive leads to the renewed production of the blue meth. Uncle Jack and the Say Hey Fun Klan think Todd just figured out how to cook right. Lydia/Saul/Someone finds out Jesse is captive, word somehow gets to Walt and he buys a machine gun.
Very nice hypothesis.

But in your view why does Walt care and bother to come back.

 
I think the Ricin may be for Todd. Todd still has this respect for Walt, and perhaps he convinces Todd to help him take out the rest of his clan because they do something Todd disagrees with. Walt's goal is to kill them all though, wipe his empire off the face of the earth and set Jesse free. So Todd is poisoned and we see him getting sick and getting worse while helping Walt. Now Jesse is either freed outright, or seeing what is happening to Todd thinks that Walt is still Heiesenberg and takes him out himself. Todd still dies though.

 
THERE IS NO RICIN CIG ANYMORE. JUST A VILE.
I guess they dont sell cigarettes in New Hampshire that he can easily place it in
People just keep saying "the ricin cigarette" like that's what Walt got from the house. He got ricin. It's not in cigarette form, nor was it ever going to be smoked. It was just hidden in it, while still in a glass vile that would not have allowed any burning ricin to be inhaled. I'm not even sure ricin will kill you once it's on fire (probably, but I have no clue).
OK so they can show a quick 5 second scene of him going to the store and buying a ####in pack of cigarettes

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Abraham said:
Todd keeps cooking for Lydia. Jack doesn't care about the purity of the product. He only agreed to let Todd take Jesse because Todd said they had history and he could get some use out of him.

Also, we've been talking about this episode for four pages and not one reference has been made to hanks possibly best line of the series "you're the smartest guy I know and you're too stupid to realiZe he made up his mind ten minutes ago."
Todd said he could get the info out if him, not that he could make use of him.
I clearly have no idea how it's all going to turn out, so this is just baseless speculation on my part:

Part of me thinks that Todd is keeping Jesse without the knowledge or consent of Uncle Jack and the Say Hey Fun Klan. Uncle Jack leaves no witnesses, takes no half measures, if you will. His mind was made up to kill Hank before any discussion of the buried money began and he never waivered from that, even if the scene was meant to give the audience some glimmer of hope that Hank would make it out alive. After shooting Hank, Uncle Jack was ready to kill and bury Walt with him. Uncle Jack is only interested in not leaving any loose ends out there. He has $80 million and if he wants to keep cooking and selling meth around the world he'll do it and he doesn't care one bit about the color or purity.

But Todd does.

Todd is infatuated with Lydia and he wants to be able to cook the product that she needs. He's managed to get Uncle Jack to let Walt go with a barrel of money, and Walt has made it pretty clear that he isn't interested in cooking any more. When Jesse turns up under the car, Todd sees an opportunity to use Jesse to impress Lydia. Maybe he has grander designs than just cooking meth well enough that she lets him sniff her butt, maybe not, but he sees an opportunity. He steps in and stops Jesse's execution. Uncle Jack goes along with it because, well, Todd is right. The knowledge about what Jesse told the DEA could be important. And if Todd wants to torture Jesse for a bit before he kills him, well, that's just fine with Uncle Jack as long as Jesse eventually ends up dead and can't come back to haunt the Say Hey Fun Klan. Todd gets the info, tells Uncle Jack that Jesse has been taken care of, then locks him in a pit by the cook site to only let him out when Todd is there, alone, cooking.

Todd's misstep in keeping Jesse alive leads to the renewed production of the blue meth. Uncle Jack and the Say Hey Fun Klan think Todd just figured out how to cook right. Lydia/Saul/Someone finds out Jesse is captive, word somehow gets to Walt and he buys a machine gun.
Very nice hypothesis.

But in your view why does Walt care and bother to come back.
Well, as you probably noticed, that's where it gets a little sparse on the detail. I have no idea what brings him back. My thought above is just that Todd's actions are the mechanism that eventually leads to it happening. Could be his family is in danger, could be he wants to save or kill Jesse, could be he wants to get his cash back, could be purely out of ego he decides he wants to take out any blue meth production before he dies. I have no idea.

 
They did a great job with the start of that scene. The phone is sitting on the counter. She is looking at it.....oops knife.
Exactly, I couldn't decide whether she was going for the Phone to call the police or grab a knife and slit Walt's throat
I must be the only one with a problem with this scene, hear me out.

By now we know that Skylar is no innocent babe in the woods, heck didn't she a few episodes ago want Jessie dead, so she is up to her neck in it, BUT suddenly she has found her morality because of the death of Hank,and in doing so has son having to defend her against Walt - when in fact it washer who slashed him with the knife.

Screw Skylar I hope the Nazis gang-rape her.
That's why I was rooting for Walt in that scene too. I know Gilligan really wants us to empathize with Skyler but it's virtually impossible for me to do so.
Interesting, why did you cut out FSM's last line in his post?

I just never understand the Skyler hate. She has done some bad things, but Walt is the real monster here. I can't see why anyone would side with him

 
The Todd trying to impress Lydia part is bang on. But Jesse is going to off Todd right away here. I just know it!

Who knows. I am pretty confident that Walt will not be trying to rescue Jesse. He blames him for Hank's death. Those two are finito.

 
They did a great job with the start of that scene. The phone is sitting on the counter. She is looking at it.....oops knife.
Exactly, I couldn't decide whether she was going for the Phone to call the police or grab a knife and slit Walt's throat
I must be the only one with a problem with this scene, hear me out.

By now we know that Skylar is no innocent babe in the woods, heck didn't she a few episodes ago want Jessie dead, so she is up to her neck in it, BUT suddenly she has found her morality because of the death of Hank,and in doing so has son having to defend her against Walt - when in fact it washer who slashed him with the knife.

Screw Skylar I hope the Nazis gang-rape her.
That's why I was rooting for Walt in that scene too. I know Gilligan really wants us to empathize with Skyler but it's virtually impossible for me to do so.
Interesting, why did you cut out FSM's last line in his post?
Because while I cannot empathize with Skyler I don't want her to be gang raped.

 
Favorite scene for me was Marie informing Skylar that Hank had won and telling Skylar what she was going to do next. Answer me!!!! Do you understand me? Knowing that indeed Hank had lost and she was going to find that out very soon.

 
They did a great job with the start of that scene. The phone is sitting on the counter. She is looking at it.....oops knife.
Exactly, I couldn't decide whether she was going for the Phone to call the police or grab a knife and slit Walt's throat
I must be the only one with a problem with this scene, hear me out.

By now we know that Skylar is no innocent babe in the woods, heck didn't she a few episodes ago want Jessie dead, so she is up to her neck in it, BUT suddenly she has found her morality because of the death of Hank,and in doing so has son having to defend her against Walt - when in fact it washer who slashed him with the knife.

Screw Skylar I hope the Nazis gang-rape her.
That's why I was rooting for Walt in that scene too. I know Gilligan really wants us to empathize with Skyler but it's virtually impossible for me to do so.
Interesting, why did you cut out FSM's last line in his post?

I just never understand the Skyler hate. She has done some bad things, but Walt is the real monster here. I can't see why anyone would side with him
Skyler's annoying. Walt is a murderer.

 
Walt is a monster but what makes him such a fascinating character is he still at times is trying to do the right thing. He tried to save Hank although as Hank said he was too stupid to realize that situation was too far gone. He does give Holly back and tries to push any potential guilt away from Skyler knowing the cops are listening to his call. He's capable of some really heinous things - what he said to Jesse last night was pure evil - but he's also still trying to do the right thing at times. He's failing badly at it but I go back to what Gilligan said in Entertainment Weekly. Walt may not be able to be redeemed but can he try to achieve redemption? That may be what we see the rest of the way and prompts his return home.

 
I have a feeling we have not seen the last of the tank of methylamine; maybe that is what the M-60 is for. I find myself hoping that Walt takes out the nazis with some form of chemical warfare, and not simply with a barrage of bullets.
I like this idea.

Whatever happens with the machine gun, I'm sure there will be about a zillion allusions to Scarface.

 
Jesse is going to take out Todd in the first 15 minutes of the next episode with some cooking sabotage. He somehow escapes. Then he is going after Walt's family. There will be no reconciliation between Walt and Jesse after Walt's confession in the desert.
I think this is a pretty viable theory.

Jesse going after Skyler would've previously been a stretch, but the Jane admission sets it up, as well as the Brock and what's her name pic.

 
I love, love, love this show. Last night was amazing.

But a part of me would still be a little bothered if such a big component in bringing Walt back, or more simply if it leads to how the series concludes, is Todd and the rest of the Nazis. I think it's really important that they be a more minor piece of the story. Again, this show is starting to inch out The Wire for the coveted #1 spot but I can't help but feel like we're going to end up having some very recently-introduced characters play such a large role in its conclusion, and to me that would be somewhat disappointing.

Luckily, I trust Gilligan like no other. As I said in a previous post, I think for the most part, it hasn't been a question of what will happen but how it happens that leads to this show being so amazing so I have faith that he'll pull it off.

 
The conversation we hear in the preview to next week with Saul is actually a flashback of a conversation they have before he makes the call to Skyler. When Saul is talking about 'going after her', he's talking about the DEA and how Walt has to take all the blame to take the pressure off of Skyler.
I like this.

I think the real big mystery or twist left is not the M60 or the ricin, but how Walt is able to get the $10-11 million back to his family. I bet Gilligan has some clever solution for that up his sleeve.

 
I missed the shot of the lone dog at the end of the last episode, I'll have to catch it next Sunday on rewatch, but it is supposed to symbolize Walt now being alone and having no pack/family.

 
Everyone likes to speculate even though we're always wrong but here's my shot:

The conversation we hear in the preview to next week with Saul is actually a flashback of a conversation they have before he makes the call to Skyler. When Saul is talking about 'going after her', he's talking about the DEA and how Walt has to take all the blame to take the pressure off of Skyler.

The family, including Marie are put into witness protection. Walt is off in NH with his new life but isn't able to get legit cancer treatments because the feds are monitoring cancer treatment centers knowing that's the only way to find him.

The Heisenberg part of Walt died when his family refused to leave with him. He knows that his family will never come back to him and that they are hopefully are safe in witness protection. Walt looks back on everything that he has done and sees that it's for nothing. He's destroyed his family and the lives of countless others.

Walt hears that the blue meth is still out there and knows that means that Jesse is still alive and being forced to cook. Walt's last effort to redeem himself for everything that he's done is to return to New Mexico and destroy the legacy that he loved so much and also to free. He wants to wipe blue meth completely off the map and knows that he has to kill the Nazi's and also Lydia as they are the only people responsible for it still being out there. He's doing it not because of his ego but because he thinks it's the only thing left.

Walt's plan is to kill the Nazi's with the machine gun and then poison Lydia. He uses to Todd to find out where they are cooking and comes in and manages to fight off the nazis and free Jesse but not before they call for backup. Walt gets ready for the final showdown and thinks that Jesse will be by his side fighting. Jesse instead kills Walt but not before telling him that he'd rather be imprisoned as a meth cook for 50 more years than to see him take another breath.
I like this one

 
Looking back I think I love how they just cut to Gomey being dead and Hank hit and out of bullets.
Yeah, I really dig how they basically fast-forward through the presumably intense moments.

1. Jesse getting tortured? Saw none of it. But know it was bad.

2. Walt likely seeing his daughter for the last time? We got no goodbyes, just flashing red light and a note.

3. The family telling Flynn? Scene starts with him denying. We didn't get to see the painful way they told him.

4. Walt having to agree to Saul that he was never coming back or contacting anyone? we just see him get into the mini-van.

I think this all really says something for the show that it doesn't have to play up it's most intense moments to be great.
That's why this show is so great. So many writers/directors revel in exploiting the visual details. Let's see the splatter, let's squeeze out every ounce of emotion we can out of a confrontation. VG let's our imagination fill in those gaps, much more effective than showing us. He spends his time setting us up for sucker punch after sucker punch. It's shocking when we see Gomey dead and we're still reeling and letting our imagination figure out what just happened while he races on with the scene. We always feel like we're trying to catch up. Walt begs for Hanks life, gives up the secret about the money, Hank dies, is he going to kill Walt?, Walt still wants Jessie dead, OMG Jessie is about to get popped!, Meth Damon steps in and freaks us out. Then when you finally feel like things have calmed down and you've caught up and can finally breath, the prestige. You think you see the next move coming "Walt's going to spit in Jessie's face", he kicks us in the gut, "I watched Jane die". Wow, my wife and I both audibly gasped. Amazing writing.

Great writing, truly great writing is economical and shocking without being gratuitous and always honors the integrity of the story and characters. I don't know how the last two episodes are going to be but so far this season and especially that last episode is a masterpiece. I'm going to be so bummed when it's all over.

 
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I have a feeling we have not seen the last of the tank of methylamine; maybe that is what the M-60 is for. I find myself hoping that Walt takes out the nazis with some form of chemical warfare, and not simply with a barrage of bullets. Imagine the guy who put a bullet into Hank's head gets dropped alive into one of those chemical-filled vats previously used to dispose of corpses.
He could then blame it on the Syrian rebels.

 
Looking back I think I love how they just cut to Gomey being dead and Hank hit and out of bullets.
Yeah, I really dig how they basically fast-forward through the presumably intense moments.

1. Jesse getting tortured? Saw none of it. But know it was bad.

2. Walt likely seeing his daughter for the last time? We got no goodbyes, just flashing red light and a note.

3. The family telling Flynn? Scene starts with him denying. We didn't get to see the painful way they told him.

4. Walt having to agree to Saul that he was never coming back or contacting anyone? we just see him get into the mini-van.

I think this all really says something for the show that it doesn't have to play up it's most intense moments to be great.
That's why this show is so great. So many writers/directors revel in exploiting the visual details. Let's see the splatter, let's squeeze out every ounce of emotion we can out of a confrontation. VG let's our imagination fill in those gaps, much more effective than showing us. He spends his time setting us up for sucker punch after sucker punch. It's shocking when we see Gomey dead and we're still reeling and letting our imagination figure out what just happened while he races on with the scene. We always feel like we're trying to catch up. Walt begs for Hanks life, gives up the secret about the money, Hank dies, is he going to kill hank?, still wants Jessie dead, OMG Jessie is about to get popped!, Meth Damon steps in and freaks us out. Then when you finally feel like things have calmed down and you've caught up and can finally breath, the prestige. You think you see the next move coming "Walt's going to spit in Jessie's face", he kicks us in the guy, "I watched Jane die". Wow, my wife and I both audibly gasped. Amazing writing.

Great writing, truly great writing is economical and shocking without being gratuitous and always honors the integrity of the story and characters. I don't know how the last two episodes are going to be but so far this season and especially that last episode is a masterpiece. I'm going to be so bummed when it's all over.
This is why I'm not spending a lot of time trying to figure out what happens next. I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the ride. I have complete confidence in Gilligan's ablity to end this the right way.

 
Favorite scene for me was Marie informing Skylar that Hank had won and telling Skylar what she was going to do next. Answer me!!!! Do you understand me? Knowing that indeed Hank had lost and she was going to find that out very soon.
I thought Skyler was going to tell her to shut up.

 
The Jane admission was the last nail in the coffin between Walt and Jesse's relationship, anyone saying Walt is coming back to save Jesse are reaching. I could see Jesse imitating Walt and pulling some chemistry voodoo to escape from Todd and then go after Walt's family.

 
Favorite scene for me was Marie informing Skylar that Hank had won and telling Skylar what she was going to do next. Answer me!!!! Do you understand me? Knowing that indeed Hank had lost and she was going to find that out very soon.
I thought Skyler was going to tell her to shut up.
I would've raised my appreciation level considerably for Skyler if she had done that. I was hoping she'd man up like she did when she told Lydia to GTFO of the car wash.

 
Everyone likes to speculate even though we're always wrong but here's my shot:

The conversation we hear in the preview to next week with Saul is actually a flashback of a conversation they have before he makes the call to Skyler. When Saul is talking about 'going after her', he's talking about the DEA and how Walt has to take all the blame to take the pressure off of Skyler.

The family, including Marie are put into witness protection. Walt is off in NH with his new life but isn't able to get legit cancer treatments because the feds are monitoring cancer treatment centers knowing that's the only way to find him.

The Heisenberg part of Walt died when his family refused to leave with him. He knows that his family will never come back to him and that they are hopefully are safe in witness protection. Walt looks back on everything that he has done and sees that it's for nothing. He's destroyed his family and the lives of countless others.

Walt hears that the blue meth is still out there and knows that means that Jesse is still alive and being forced to cook. Walt's last effort to redeem himself for everything that he's done is to return to New Mexico and destroy the legacy that he loved so much and also to free. He wants to wipe blue meth completely off the map and knows that he has to kill the Nazi's and also Lydia as they are the only people responsible for it still being out there. He's doing it not because of his ego but because he thinks it's the only thing left.

Walt's plan is to kill the Nazi's with the machine gun and then poison Lydia. He uses to Todd to find out where they are cooking and comes in and manages to fight off the nazis and free Jesse but not before they call for backup. Walt gets ready for the final showdown and thinks that Jesse will be by his side fighting. Jesse instead kills Walt but not before telling him that he'd rather be imprisoned as a meth cook for 50 more years than to see him take another breath.
I like this one
:thumbup:

I think the next episode could open with the final scene of the show. I've always thought Jessie kills Walt in the end. Maybe Jessie holding Walt under a gun, maybe the end of a gun battle, maybe everyone lying around dead and Walt/Jessie pull back their gas masks. then the rest of the episode and the next are all a flash back from that scene. Starting with the diner on Walt's 52nd birthday, Sauls conversation with Walt, and then we're off to the races.

I have no idea how it all resolves itself, just wild ### guessing. But I'm sticking to Jessie killing Walt, I think that's the best ending possible. I think the ricin is for the Nazis but who knows.

The VG quote above about the Godfather is interesting though. Michael Corleone makes it through the end of both movies.

 
I can't see Walt using the Ricin on Todd. Todd's the only one left with real sympathy for Walt. "I'm sorry for your loss."
You think anyone thinks it's genuine/non-psychotic though? Todd killed a kid in front of Walt. Todd is without a doubt the most amoral character on the show. I don't think Walt has any feelings for him.

I actually think Walt finding out Todd's imprisoning of Jesse actually sets Walt over the edge. Could be too optimistic of me, though.

 
The ricin is to poison the whole nazi crew. It is going in a pot of coffee or something like that. Then the M60 is for the Scarface suicide shootout with the cops.

 
I'm hoping for a flashback in one of these last 2 episodes that shows how Walt poisoned Brock. I really did not like how they portrayed that originally. That and the Marie kleptomaniac storyline are the only slight critiques I would have on the story so far.

 
I can't see Walt using the Ricin on Todd. Todd's the only one left with real sympathy for Walt. "I'm sorry for your loss."
You think anyone thinks it's genuine/non-psychotic though? Todd killed a kid in front of Walt. Todd is without a doubt the most amoral character on the show. I don't think Walt has any feelings for him.

I actually think Walt finding out Todd's imprisoning of Jesse actually sets Walt over the edge. Could be too optimistic of me, though.
The only way Walt would ever find out that Jesse was being held captive is if Jesse somehow manages to escape. Even if he heard that the blue was back on the market, he could only safely assume that they tortured Jesse into teaching Todd how to do it. If we assume that several months go by, Walt would have no reason whatsoever to assume Jesse is still alive. And that is exactly how Jesse is going to make it out of this thing alive.

 
I have a feeling that Lydia will kill Todd in true femme fatale stye, if only because she knows that Jesse can cook the blue meth. Also, got to believe that she wants to rid herself of all connections to the nazis.

 
I can't see Walt using the Ricin on Todd. Todd's the only one left with real sympathy for Walt. "I'm sorry for your loss."
You think anyone thinks it's genuine/non-psychotic though? Todd killed a kid in front of Walt. Todd is without a doubt the most amoral character on the show. I don't think Walt has any feelings for him.

I actually think Walt finding out Todd's imprisoning of Jesse actually sets Walt over the edge. Could be too optimistic of me, though.
The only way Walt would ever find out that Jesse was being held captive is if Jesse somehow manages to escape. Even if he heard that the blue was back on the market, he could only safely assume that they tortured Jesse into teaching Todd how to do it. If we assume that several months go by, Walt would have no reason whatsoever to assume Jesse is still alive. And that is exactly how Jesse is going to make it out of this thing alive.
Or if, you know, Todd tells someone like Lydia and word gets to Saul somehow.

 
Not sure how people are coming up with "He wants to take down their empire" as the reason for Walt potentially going after the Nazis. He voluntarily got out of the game. He seemingly has zero problem with Todd taking the stick and running with it. Any confrontation forthwith will be borne of vengeance, or to protect family from said Nazis.

Interesting tidbit that when Walt buys the gun, the seller asks him if he has his word that it's not crossing the border, and Walt tells him that it won't even leave the town. :shrug:

 
Looking back I think I love how they just cut to Gomey being dead and Hank hit and out of bullets.
Yeah, I really dig how they basically fast-forward through the presumably intense moments.

1. Jesse getting tortured? Saw none of it. But know it was bad.

2. Walt likely seeing his daughter for the last time? We got no goodbyes, just flashing red light and a note.

3. The family telling Flynn? Scene starts with him denying. We didn't get to see the painful way they told him.

4. Walt having to agree to Saul that he was never coming back or contacting anyone? we just see him get into the mini-van.

I think this all really says something for the show that it doesn't have to play up it's most intense moments to be great.
That's why this show is so great. So many writers/directors revel in exploiting the visual details. Let's see the splatter, let's squeeze out every ounce of emotion we can out of a confrontation. VG let's our imagination fill in those gaps, much more effective than showing us. He spends his time setting us up for sucker punch after sucker punch. It's shocking when we see Gomey dead and we're still reeling and letting our imagination figure out what just happened while he races on with the scene. We always feel like we're trying to catch up. Walt begs for Hanks life, gives up the secret about the money, Hank dies, is he going to kill hank?, still wants Jessie dead, OMG Jessie is about to get popped!, Meth Damon steps in and freaks us out. Then when you finally feel like things have calmed down and you've caught up and can finally breath, the prestige. You think you see the next move coming "Walt's going to spit in Jessie's face", he kicks us in the guy, "I watched Jane die". Wow, my wife and I both audibly gasped. Amazing writing.

Great writing, truly great writing is economical and shocking without being gratuitous and always honors the integrity of the story and characters. I don't know how the last two episodes are going to be but so far this season and especially that last episode is a masterpiece. I'm going to be so bummed when it's all over.
This is why I'm not spending a lot of time trying to figure out what happens next. I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the ride. I have complete confidence in Gilligan's ablity to end this the right way.
It's like waiting for Mariano Rivera to come on in the 9th inning. Sure there's a very tiny chance he could #### up, but my money is on him getting the job done as perfectly as anyone ever could.

Oh my god I just realized that Breaking Bad and Rivera's career end on the same night! :cry:

 

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