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[mad sweeney]

This place is going to melt down if the ricin really does turn out to be for Walt himself.

I don't really think it's crazy, if it's the "no half-measures" scenario that RHE laid out earlier in the thread. At this point I think Walt's the most likely ricin eater.

that's the only way it makes some sense, but it still means he's going to kill himself before the ricin does what it's supposed to do.

There's no way Walt decides to give himself a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death.

He's already looking at that.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

This place is going to melt down if the ricin really does turn out to be for Walt himself.

I don't really think it's crazy, if it's the "no half-measures" scenario that RHE laid out earlier in the thread. At this point I think Walt's the most likely ricin eater.

that's the only way it makes some sense, but it still means he's going to kill himself before the ricin does what it's supposed to do.

There's no way Walt decides to give himself a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death.

Right. He could have had that in his cabin.

 

[Premier]

Maybe the ricin is just in case and nobody gets it. Also, he doesn't have to fire off the M60 himself, he has enough money to pay some thug to do it.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.

Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

 

[pollardsvision]

the ricin is for himself because he doesn't want to be taken into custody.

it's amazing that the worst prediction in this thread gets repeated hundreds of times.

No kidding. "I want to kill myself....I think I'll do it by putting a blowtorch on my nuts, wrapping myself in duct tape, and eating shards of glass until I can't take it anymore."

That prediction gets mocked every time for the same reason, but we have no idea if your assumption would fit Walt's motivations.

Walt may be more interested in committing suicide without anyone knowing he committed suicide than he is worried about how much he'll suffer when he dies. I don't know how much he cares about the former, but I seriously doubt he gives a #### about the latter at this point.

I have no idea what'll happen, but it's a viable prediction that's not worth being mocked without considering the reasons behind it.

 

[The Duff Man]

Walt would want to collapse both empires that he built, rather than have someone else live off his genius.

The gun is for the nazis, the ricin is for Grey Matter. Slip it into their production somehow, kill a bunch of customers. Their stock/company is already reeling from the sounds of it.

I dont know how he could possibly accomplish either, but with his personality these woyld both seem like reasonable objectives and it fits with any character motivation he has left.

His family is gone, Jessie is dead to him, all that is left is his legacy.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

So Walt just bailed with the $100K or so in the package and left the rest in the cabin, right?

 

[Abraham]

I like the conversaton between the disappearer and Walt when he asked if he'd give the money to his family and the guy said "if I say yes would you believe me?" My thought is that it occurred to walt that he wouldn't deliver not because it would be too dangerous, but because he would instead keep the money for himself. As in, 'the only reason I drive over here every month is because I'm waiting for you to die at which point the ONLY option for your money if for it to come in to my possession.'" And that finally pushed Walt to realize exactly how alone and without options he was.

 

[Sarnoff]

With his whole family against him, and without any way to give them the cash he earned, the birthright they deserve, Walt decides the best thing is to just help them pass on peacefully. M60 for Skyler and Flynn and ricin for Holly.

 

[pollardsvision]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He's got an awful lot do in the next 75 minutes and he's fairly exhausted.

Do you think he's got another method, that's less detectable and sitting in a handy vial waiting to be used?

 

[Scoresman]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.

Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He doesn't exactly have the resources for that anymore. He's a desperate man at this point. The ricin is for the scenario where he's taken into custody and has no other options to end it all.

 

[Mister CIA]

I predict we'll see Badger and/or Skinny Pete working the M-60 to rescue Jesse, and they each get their own barrel of cash promised by Walter for taking out the Nazis.

 

[Mister CIA]

So Walt just bailed with the $100K or so in the package and left the rest in the cabin, right?

I think so. I think he leaves it for Mr. Relocator in exchange for a favor or two.

 

[Tiger Fan]

I like the conversaton between the disappearer and Walt when he asked if he'd give the money to his family and the guy said "if I say yes would you believe me?" My thought is that it occurred to walt that he wouldn't deliver not because it would be too dangerous, but because he would instead keep the money for himself. As in, 'the only reason I drive over here every month is because I'm waiting for you to die at which point the ONLY option for your money if for it to come in to my possession.'" And that finally pushed Walt to realize exactly how alone and without options he was.

yep

 

[Apple Jack]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.

Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He doesn't exactly have the resources for that anymore. He's a desperate man at this point. The ricin is for the scenario where he's taken into custody and has no other options to end it all.

I'm not master chemist, but I'd go with self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head or step in front of a truck over slow excruciating poison death.

 

[Peyton Marino]

The last scene will be Walt leaving ABQ after taking care of Jesse as revenge for getting Hank killed. He arrives at the airport, sits down, has a scotch while he's waiting watching the news. But little does he know Jesse made a few arrangements of his own.

Walt gets on the plane and feels something is wrong, but can't put his finger on it. He's staring out of the window as they take off. A stewardess comes by and offers him a drink, he takes one to try and get his mind off things and stop being paranoid. He sits back and reminisces about the people who've gone to get him where he is now. Jesse. Hank. Mike. Gus. Hector. Jane. Then he stops, and drops his drink. Jane. It's all coming together. In horror, he turns and looks out the window, and sees the other plane heading straight for him. The shot turns into the plane's POV, camera stuck on the very tip, and we see Walt screaming against the window like Count Olaf before cut to black.

In the air traffic control, we see Don in profile reclining, a tear running down his cheek. 'Never give up on family' he says. The camera slow pans around, and we see the half of his face ruined through shooting himself has been saved through a face transplant from Gus's good half.

Directed by Vince Gilligan.

lol

 

[pollardsvision]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He doesn't exactly have the resources for that anymore. He's a desperate man at this point. The ricin is for the scenario where he's taken into custody and has no other options to end it all.

I'm not master chemist, but I'd go with self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head or step in front of a truck over slow excruciating poison death.

I'm sure Walt would too, if he didn't mind others knowing he'd committed suicide and he cares at all about avoiding suffering (not that I know the answer to those).

 

[Apple Jack]

I like the conversaton between the disappearer and Walt when he asked if he'd give the money to his family and the guy said "if I say yes would you believe me?" My thought is that it occurred to walt that he wouldn't deliver not because it would be too dangerous, but because he would instead keep the money for himself. As in, 'the only reason I drive over here every month is because I'm waiting for you to die at which point the ONLY option for your money if for it to come in to my possession.'" And that finally pushed Walt to realize exactly how alone and without options he was.

That's how I saw it. To the extent that my first thought after the ring fell off his finger was that he went to the Ensure to see if they weren't somehow tampered with.

Landry is worthy of some recognition. I like that guy.

 

[Scoresman]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.

Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He doesn't exactly have the resources for that anymore. He's a desperate man at this point. The ricin is for the scenario where he's taken into custody and has no other options to end it all.

I'm not master chemist, but I'd go with self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head or step in front of a truck over slow excruciating poison death.

How is he going to step in front of a truck or shoot himself in the head if he's taken into custody or captured? A vial of ricin is a lot easier to conceal.

 

[RUSF18]

I'm starting to think we won't see the M60 be used. The intent will be for him to take on the Nazis, but I just can't see them working a firefight into this last 50 or so minutes.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I don't think some of you understand how notorious Walt is right now. In fact, I am a little shocked that they played up him going to Denny's and back to the house. Carol had to call the police immediately right?

He's not going to be able to just roll up to Grey Matter and have a sit down with them. I guess he can blast away at them with his new found weapon but that's not really his style. He needs that for the nazis.

I just don't see how they come back into the story.

The flash forwards were to fool viewers into thinking that Walt was a badass coming back for revenge. We now know he's pretty pathetic, defeated, and weak. How can he even pickup that gun at this point. I don't know what he's going to try to do, but he's probably going to fail.

Exactly. I dont think he goes out with a bang at all at this point. He may dies 15 minutes into the show.

I think after a lot of carnage, the show ends with Walt killing himself.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

maybe Walt should try crystal at this point? Has he ever partaken in his own product?

 

[Apple Jack]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.

Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He doesn't exactly have the resources for that anymore. He's a desperate man at this point. The ricin is for the scenario where he's taken into custody and has no other options to end it all.

I'm not master chemist, but I'd go with self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head or step in front of a truck over slow excruciating poison death.

How is he going to step in front of a truck or shoot himself in the head if he's taken into custody or captured? A vial of ricin is a lot easier to conceal.

You didn't say he was in custody. Suicide by cop then. Regardless, if Walt kills himself with the ricin, I will be writing a sternly worded email to somebody. Probably start with shuke before forwarding to a Congressman.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I don't think the machine gun is for the Nazis. I don't know what it's for, but I think that's less likely each week.

Who would it be for then? They killed Hank, that was the final straw that ruined his life as he knew it. It was the final nail that killed any chance at keeping his family together. In his mind at least, it was over long before then but his megalomania let him think he could fix it. They took his money, the only thing he cares about - tangible evidence of his empire. He may have severed his fatherly feelings towards Jesse, but there may be some idea of redemption by saving him, or he may be in kill-mode and want to take out the only other person that can make the blue. The top 4-5 reasons to get an M60 all point to the Nazis.

Considering Walt has never fired an M60, has no idea how to fire one, and has no chance of successfully gunning down a group of trained killers, I don't think the top reason to get one points to the Nazis.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I hope the last 75 minutes is a recap of Walt going door to door, from NH to NM, and #####slapping everyone that's making a prediction about how this plays out.

 

[mad sweeney]

I don't think the machine gun is for the Nazis. I don't know what it's for, but I think that's less likely each week.

Who would it be for then? They killed Hank, that was the final straw that ruined his life as he knew it. It was the final nail that killed any chance at keeping his family together. In his mind at least, it was over long before then but his megalomania let him think he could fix it. They took his money, the only thing he cares about - tangible evidence of his empire. He may have severed his fatherly feelings towards Jesse, but there may be some idea of redemption by saving him, or he may be in kill-mode and want to take out the only other person that can make the blue. The top 4-5 reasons to get an M60 all point to the Nazis.

Considering Walt has never fired an M60, has no idea how to fire one, and has no chance of successfully gunning down a group of trained killers, I don't think the top reason to get one points to the Nazis.

Iirc, there was an instruction manual.

 

[Peyton Marino]

I like the conversaton between the disappearer and Walt when he asked if he'd give the money to his family and the guy said "if I say yes would you believe me?" My thought is that it occurred to walt that he wouldn't deliver not because it would be too dangerous, but because he would instead keep the money for himself. As in, 'the only reason I drive over here every month is because I'm waiting for you to die at which point the ONLY option for your money if for it to come in to my possession.'" And that finally pushed Walt to realize exactly how alone and without options he was.

Immediately after this dialogue, the guy asks Walt if he wants to cut the cards. Walt replies no - a sign of trust in cards.

 

[packersfan]

I like the conversaton between the disappearer and Walt when he asked if he'd give the money to his family and the guy said "if I say yes would you believe me?" My thought is that it occurred to walt that he wouldn't deliver not because it would be too dangerous, but because he would instead keep the money for himself. As in, 'the only reason I drive over here every month is because I'm waiting for you to die at which point the ONLY option for your money if for it to come in to my possession.'" And that finally pushed Walt to realize exactly how alone and without options he was.

Immediately after this dialogue, the guy asks Walt if he wants to cut the cards. Walt replies no - a sign of trust in cards.

Or a sign he doesn't care anymore and is willing to just take whatever fate deals him.

 

[Abraham]

Good point. The Disappearer could have killed him long ago. Sure would make it easier rather than driving back and forth from New Mexico every 4 weeks.

 

[Apple Jack]

maybe Walt should try crystal at this point? Has he ever partaken in his own product?

Final scene - inspired by the death of John Entwhistle - Walt is engaged in intercourse with two hookers in a penthouse on the strip in Vegas, lights of LV Blvd visible out the window. Upon doing a bump off the small of one's back he goes into a coughing fit, falls over, and as the camera zooms in on his face as his eyes roll back into his head with his last breath he whispers for the hookers or nobody in particular to "say my name" as the screen goes black to the smooth sounds of the Isley Brothers' Live it Up . And scene.

 

[pollardsvision]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He doesn't exactly have the resources for that anymore. He's a desperate man at this point. The ricin is for the scenario where he's taken into custody and has no other options to end it all.

I'm not master chemist, but I'd go with self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head or step in front of a truck over slow excruciating poison death.

How is he going to step in front of a truck or shoot himself in the head if he's taken into custody or captured? A vial of ricin is a lot easier to conceal.

You didn't say he was in custody. Suicide by cop then. Regardless, if Walt kills himself with the ricin, I will be writing a sternly worded email to somebody. Probably start with shuke before forwarding to a Congressman.

I assume the cops would be trying to take the sick old man alive.

 

[Scoresman]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.

Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He doesn't exactly have the resources for that anymore. He's a desperate man at this point. The ricin is for the scenario where he's taken into custody and has no other options to end it all.

I'm not master chemist, but I'd go with self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head or step in front of a truck over slow excruciating poison death.

How is he going to step in front of a truck or shoot himself in the head if he's taken into custody or captured? A vial of ricin is a lot easier to conceal.

You didn't say he was in custody. Suicide by cop then. Regardless, if Walt kills himself with the ricin, I will be writing a sternly worded email to somebody. Probably start with shuke before forwarding to a Congressman.

My whole point is that Walt takes the ricin as a last resort. That means after being taken into custody and he has no other option to off himself if things go wrong. I think that's a much more likely scenario than him using the ricin on someone else.

Everytime I think of a situation where Walt uses the ricin on someone, it makes even less sense than him just taking it himself as a last resort.

 

[Apple Jack]

There will be a kerfuffle going down here if Walt kills himself with the ricin, that's all I'm saying.

 

[Premier]

I did have to step away from the fictional show last night and wonder for a minute why the vacuum guy doesn't just kill Walt in that lonely cabin and then drive off with the 11M. Code amongst certain thieves I guess.

 

[In The Zone]

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[Scoresman]

Anyone who would be upset if Walt ends up taking the ricin needs to ask themselves if you'd rather suffer for weeks or months while dying of cancer in a jail cell or meth dungeon, or suffer for 24-48 hours while dying of ricin.

If presented with those 2 options, I know which one I'd take.

 

[Apple Jack]

Anyone who would be upset if Walt ends up taking the ricin needs to ask themselves if you'd rather suffer for weeks or months while dying of cancer in a jail cell or meth dungeon, or suffer for 24-48 hours while dying of ricin.

If presented with those 2 options, I know which one I'd take.

You are moving goal posts. Is he in jail in your hypothetical? If so, he can hang himself with his bed sheet like Ohio ####head and many others have. Regardless, how did he get ricin into the jail? Are we going so far as to say he feels so strongly about it that he'd eat it in a balloon back when he would have had the option of suicide by cop or just stepping in front of a train only to wait to poop it out in the joint (hey now!) to take it to kill himself?

 

[pollardsvision]

Anyone who would be upset if Walt ends up taking the ricin needs to ask themselves if you'd rather suffer for weeks or months while dying of cancer in a jail cell or meth dungeon, or suffer for 24-48 hours while dying of ricin.

If presented with those 2 options, I know which one I'd take.

You are moving goal posts. Is he in jail in your hypothetical? If so, he can hang himself with his bed sheet like Ohio ####head and many others have. Regardless, how did he get ricin into the jail? Are we going so far as to say he feels so strongly about it that he'd eat it in a balloon back when he would have had the option of suicide by cop or just stepping in front of a train only to wait to poop it out in the joint (hey now!) to take it to kill himself?

You can move the goal posts when the original point was simply "I think Walt uses the Ricin on himself".

And I think in this hypothetical, Walt would take it before being taken into custody, not trying to pass a squat and cough.

 

[Scoresman]

Anyone who would be upset if Walt ends up taking the ricin needs to ask themselves if you'd rather suffer for weeks or months while dying of cancer in a jail cell or meth dungeon, or suffer for 24-48 hours while dying of ricin.

If presented with those 2 options, I know which one I'd take.

You are moving goal posts. Is he in jail in your hypothetical? If so, he can hang himself with his bed sheet like Ohio ####head and many others have. Regardless, how did he get ricin into the jail? Are we going so far as to say he feels so strongly about it that he'd eat it in a balloon back when he would have had the option of suicide by cop or just stepping in front of a train only to wait to poop it out in the joint (hey now!) to take it to kill himself?

Not in jail obviously. I picture a situation where he's surrounded somewhere, has no other option and suddenly realizes its finally over.

I think its just as likely that Walt's plan to shoot up the Nazi's fails, and if they capture him alive, they're less likely to find the ricin than the feds.

 

[Apple Jack]

This place is going to melt down if the ricin really does turn out to be for Walt himself.

It's hard to imagine a scenario where that wouldn't be the worst decision these writers made in the life of the show.

 

[Apple Jack]

Anyone who would be upset if Walt ends up taking the ricin needs to ask themselves if you'd rather suffer for weeks or months while dying of cancer in a jail cell or meth dungeon, or suffer for 24-48 hours while dying of ricin.

If presented with those 2 options, I know which one I'd take.

You are moving goal posts. Is he in jail in your hypothetical? If so, he can hang himself with his bed sheet like Ohio ####head and many others have. Regardless, how did he get ricin into the jail? Are we going so far as to say he feels so strongly about it that he'd eat it in a balloon back when he would have had the option of suicide by cop or just stepping in front of a train only to wait to poop it out in the joint (hey now!) to take it to kill himself?

Not in jail obviously. I picture a situation where he's surrounded somewhere, has no other option and suddenly realizes its finally over.

I think its just as likely that Walt's plan to shoot up the Nazi's fails, and if they capture him alive, they're less likely to find the ricin than the feds.

This is the only way it could make even a little sense, imo. If he's up against torture. But what would they want with him at this point? He's nothing but a lot of heat.

 

[jwb]

Anyone who would be upset if Walt ends up taking the ricin needs to ask themselves if you'd rather suffer for weeks or months while dying of cancer in a jail cell or meth dungeon, or suffer for 24-48 hours while dying of ricin.

If presented with those 2 options, I know which one I'd take.

You are moving goal posts. Is he in jail in your hypothetical? If so, he can hang himself with his bed sheet like Ohio ####head and many others have. Regardless, how did he get ricin into the jail? Are we going so far as to say he feels so strongly about it that he'd eat it in a balloon back when he would have had the option of suicide by cop or just stepping in front of a train only to wait to poop it out in the joint (hey now!) to take it to kill himself?

Not in jail obviously. I picture a situation where he's surrounded somewhere, has no other option and suddenly realizes its finally over.

I think its just as likely that Walt's plan to shoot up the Nazi's fails, and if they capture him alive, they're less likely to find the ricin than the feds.

The scenario that makes the most sense to me is "why not take another weapon?" to whatever showdown / event he's planning.

 

[mad sweeney]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He doesn't exactly have the resources for that anymore. He's a desperate man at this point. The ricin is for the scenario where he's taken into custody and has no other options to end it all.

I'm not master chemist, but I'd go with self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head or step in front of a truck over slow excruciating poison death.

How is he going to step in front of a truck or shoot himself in the head if he's taken into custody or captured? A vial of ricin is a lot easier to conceal.

You didn't say he was in custody. Suicide by cop then. Regardless, if Walt kills himself with the ricin, I will be writing a sternly worded email to somebody. Probably start with shuke before forwarding to a Congressman.

I assume the cops would be trying to take the sick old man alive.

Tough to do if he's shooting at them.

 

[Apple Jack]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He doesn't exactly have the resources for that anymore. He's a desperate man at this point. The ricin is for the scenario where he's taken into custody and has no other options to end it all.

I'm not master chemist, but I'd go with self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head or step in front of a truck over slow excruciating poison death.

How is he going to step in front of a truck or shoot himself in the head if he's taken into custody or captured? A vial of ricin is a lot easier to conceal.

You didn't say he was in custody. Suicide by cop then. Regardless, if Walt kills himself with the ricin, I will be writing a sternly worded email to somebody. Probably start with shuke before forwarding to a Congressman.

I assume the cops would be trying to take the sick old man alive.

Tough to do if he's shooting at them.

I also assume that any cops who knew Hank and Gomez might be a little more prone to thinking they saw him going for a gun and emptying their guns in him.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

With his whole family against him, and without any way to give them the cash he earned, the birthright they deserve, Walt decides the best thing is to just help them pass on peacefully. M60 for Skyler and Flynn and ricin for Holly.

That doesn't make any sense - she doesn't know how to smoke a cigarette.

 

[Rove!]

I really thought Todd was going to kill Skylar. Very tense scene.

Letting her live was pretty out of character for Todd. Niggling criticism, I know.

I'm not sure how smart that would have been

It would have brought extra scrutiny on a potential blue meth pipeline into Europe

outside of Hank, I'm not sure any feds knew of Andrea's connection to Pinkman...

 

[Ghost Rider]

Heisenberg in his prime never would have killed himself, but a dying Walt might. In fact, remember that Walt tried to kill himself with the gun in the pilot, when he thought he had no other options as what he thought were cops approaching them and the crashed RV, so it would be full circle for him to finally kill himself next week when he realizes he really does have no other options in life except to just die. But I still think he does it publicly somehow, as he wants everyone to remember who he was.

 

[pollardsvision]

He's already dying of cancer which is a painful, miserable, long and drawn out death. Ricin in comparison is quicker and could very well be his last resort right before being taken into custody by the DEA or by the Nazi's.

he didn't give himself cancer. that wasn't a choice he made.Walt is a master chemist. You think he can't come up with a better way to commit suicide if that's what he wants to do?

He doesn't exactly have the resources for that anymore. He's a desperate man at this point. The ricin is for the scenario where he's taken into custody and has no other options to end it all.

I'm not master chemist, but I'd go with self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head or step in front of a truck over slow excruciating poison death.

How is he going to step in front of a truck or shoot himself in the head if he's taken into custody or captured? A vial of ricin is a lot easier to conceal.

You didn't say he was in custody. Suicide by cop then. Regardless, if Walt kills himself with the ricin, I will be writing a sternly worded email to somebody. Probably start with shuke before forwarding to a Congressman.

I assume the cops would be trying to take the sick old man alive.

Tough to do if he's shooting at them.

Getting himself killed in a shootout with the cops is certainly doable, but there's also a pretty good shot they disarm him with a non-lethal shot too (which would be the their first goal if they can pull it off).

Maybe he won't be as lucky as Tuco, getting popped between the eyes with a pistol from 40 feet away.

 

[packersfan]

Heisenberg in his prime never would have killed himself, but a dying Walt might.

I think Walt died in the phone call with his son. Heisenberg's been reborn but I think Walter White for all intents and purposes is dead. Walter White existed for his family. His family is gone now. There are no more ties to them he can muster up. Without them, Walter White ceases to exist.

But Heisenberg? That's a whole nother guy completely.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I bet Jesse really wishes he would have just gotten in that van when it pulled up.