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[Nathan R. Jessep]

I just have a feeling Gretchen and Grey Matter is a big part of the ending. Could be way off here, I don't know. It was already revealed in 5a that a big reason (the biggest IMO) for Walt's continued cooking after his cancer remits is because of his fallout at GM.

The whole reason that the series didn't end with this past episode is that they refused to give him any credit for Gray Matter. Then we know that he goes to get the ricin in the finale so it's not a stretch to think he's going to kill Elliott and Gretchen.

I'm sure this has been covered before, but what's he going to do? Stroll up to the front lobby and ask for Elliott?

I'm not so sure he kills them... I feel like it will be something more poetic than that if he actually seeks revenge on the Schwartzes.

Revenge for what? Walt voluntarily accepted a buy-out from Grey Matter. When the Schwartzes said that he didn't have much to do with the firm's success, they were telling the truth, and Walt is bitterly aware of it. He has absolutely nothing to take revenge for when it comes to these two.

The GF and I were talking about this the other day and we couldn't remember how him leaving went down. Why did he leave? It's been so long since I've watched that season.

They didn't explicitly say. Walt told Jesse he left for personal reasons that he wouldn't go into, during the "I'm in the empire business" speech

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Don't forget Jesse Jackson

 

[TheIronSheik]

I just have a feeling Gretchen and Grey Matter is a big part of the ending. Could be way off here, I don't know. It was already revealed in 5a that a big reason (the biggest IMO) for Walt's continued cooking after his cancer remits is because of his fallout at GM.

The whole reason that the series didn't end with this past episode is that they refused to give him any credit for Gray Matter. Then we know that he goes to get the ricin in the finale so it's not a stretch to think he's going to kill Elliott and Gretchen.

I'm sure this has been covered before, but what's he going to do? Stroll up to the front lobby and ask for Elliott?

I'm not so sure he kills them... I feel like it will be something more poetic than that if he actually seeks revenge on the Schwartzes.

Revenge for what? Walt voluntarily accepted a buy-out from Grey Matter. When the Schwartzes said that he didn't have much to do with the firm's success, they were telling the truth, and Walt is bitterly aware of it. He has absolutely nothing to take revenge for when it comes to these two.

The GF and I were talking about this the other day and we couldn't remember how him leaving went down. Why did he leave? It's been so long since I've watched that season.

They didn't explicitly say. Walt told Jesse he left for personal reasons that he wouldn't go into, during the "I'm in the empire business" speech

OK. That makes sense. Probably the reason we couldn't remember why he left.

 

[TheIronSheik]

After re-watching some of these episodes during the marathon I think that I might enjoy it more watching the entire series from start to finish the second time.

Just skip the Fly episode. I love this show and think it's brilliant. But when watching it with my GF to catch her up, I remember even apologizing ahead of time for that episode. Maybe it was too deep for me to understand? I don't know. But it seemed like they didn't just pump the brakes with that episode. The flat out pulled the emergency brake.

 

[doowain]

Revolution premiere details behind spoiler for those that haven't watched:

Spoiler

Was watching the season premiere of Revolution last night and Gus Fring is suicidal. Later in the episode after a speech by a "government official", he is seen shaving when his son asks him what changed for him (why he's no longer suicidal). He replies "a man just needs a purpose".

That immediately reminded me of Walt's situation in this past episode. He had nothing to live for after his call with Walt Jr. He had given himself up. Then he saw the interview and realized he had a purpose.

Here everyone is trying to figure out what will happen/who will die/etc. We simply need to figure out what purpose he had to bail on turning himself in. Whatever/whomever that purpose is.....is about to have Heisenberg hellfire rain down on them.

 

[Charlie Frown]

I have only seen most of these episodes once, which is actually brilliant. I'm taping the 1st and 2nd seasons and then catching a few more this week, awesome.

Got chills watching preview for final episode. I think it's good they are wrapping this up because there is no reason to mess with perfection. Maybe they could have gone the CSI route and jumped the shark seven times and still made money, but they were smart not to.

Another reason why this show will go down as one of the best ever.

 

[Charlie Frown]

I just dont want Walt to die...anyone with me?

I'm still rooting for Walt.

Kinda wanna see "Flynn" get offed right now.

It took me almost the entire series, but I'm on board with the Flynn hate. That phone call was the final straw. Your dad tells you he's sending you $100k you say "Thanks, Dad".

I am hoping Junior get's the ricin by mistake.

 

[bostonfred]

I just dont want Walt to die...anyone with me?

I'm still rooting for Walt.

Kinda wanna see "Flynn" get offed right now.

It took me almost the entire series, but I'm on board with the Flynn hate. That phone call was the final straw. Your dad tells you he's sending you $100k you say "Thanks, Dad".

I am hoping Junior get's the ricin by mistake.

I'm hoping he gets it on purpose. Why won't I just die? Because I'm strong and you're weak, junior.

 

[CBusAlex]

Surprised nothing in particular was said about this:

Spoiler

Andrea's death. Was shocking to say the least - figured something bad was going to happen - just wasn't expecting it.

"Hi. You don't know me, but I'm a friend of your meth dealing ex-boyfriend, who is now one of the most wanted criminals in the state. Won't you step outside so I can show you something in my truck, which is not at all suspiciously parked halfway down the block?"

Yeah, she kinda had it coming.

 

[jwp]

Revolution premiere details behind spoiler for those that haven't watched:

Spoiler

Was watching the season premiere of Revolution last night and Gus Fring is suicidal. Later in the episode after a speech by a "government official", he is seen shaving when his son asks him what changed for him (why he's no longer suicidal). He replies "a man just needs a purpose".

That immediately reminded me of Walt's situation in this past episode. He had nothing to live for after his call with Walt Jr. He had given himself up. Then he saw the interview and realized he had a purpose.

Here everyone is trying to figure out what will happen/who will die/etc. We simply need to figure out what purpose he had to bail on turning himself in. Whatever/whomever that purpose is.....is about to have Heisenberg hellfire rain down on them.

I recently watched this whole series. When I first saw Gus Fring my immediate first thought was---cool that guy from Revolution is on this show. I guess from reading through this thread, at the time people here were calling him Erkle.

 

[badmojo1006]

After re-watching some of these episodes during the marathon I think that I might enjoy it more watching the entire series from start to finish the second time.

Agreed, but I think i will wait 6 months to a year

 

[Homer J Simpson]

The most shocking thing in this thread so far is that Doctor Detroit thinks the last two seasons of Dexter have been good.

 

[jamny]

The most shocking thing in this thread so far is that Doctor Detroit thinks the last two seasons of Dexter have been good.

I'm hoping he's joking.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Watching season 5 and lol'ing that Mike calls Jesse sexist for not wanting to kill Lydia. "This woman deserves to die as much as any man I've ever met."

Mike was truly an awesome character. :tips40:

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Is that the longest that Charlie Rose has ever been watched in a New Hampshire bar?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

The most shocking thing in this thread so far is that Doctor Detroit thinks the last two seasons of Dexter have been good.

I stopped watching Dexter after they found all the bodies at the bottom of the bay. Just stupid.

 

[bostonfred]

Watching season 5 and lol'ing that Mike calls Jesse sexist for not wanting to kill Lydia. "This woman deserves to die as much as any man I've ever met."

Mike was truly an awesome character. :tips40:

If he'd gone ahead and killed her, dozens of people would still be alive. She wouldn't have found the crappy gps device on the barrel of methlymene, Walt couldn't have started cooking again, Hank wouldn't have had anything to investigate, Walt wouldn't have met the Nazis, because he couldn't have gotten the list from her, so he couldn't have killed Mike, so Jesse wouldn't have been coerced to leave, so he wouldn't have had the epiphany that Walt poisoned Brock, so he wouldn't have tried to burn the house down, so Hank wouldn't have caught him and gotten a confession, so they wouldn't have gone to the desert, so Hank wouldn't have gotten killed, and Walt wouldn't have gotten outed, and so on.

She was the fly in the lab. The contaminant that brought down the empire.

 

[Christo]

After re-watching some of these episodes during the marathon I think that I might enjoy it more watching the entire series from start to finish the second time.

Just skip the Fly episode. I love this show and think it's brilliant. But when watching it with my GF to catch her up, I remember even apologizing ahead of time for that episode. Maybe it was too deep for me to understand? I don't know. But it seemed like they didn't just pump the brakes with that episode. The flat out pulled the emergency brake.

Yes, you do.

 

[Jayrok]

I watched the pilot episode for the first time last night. It was good I guess. By all the hype I am assuming that the show gets better and better as it goes along. I plan to stream the whole first season and see how it goes. How many seasons are there, 6? 7?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I watched the pilot episode for the first time last night. It was good I guess. By all the hype I am assuming that the show gets better and better as it goes along. I plan to stream the whole first season and see how it goes. How many seasons are there, 6? 7?

Nope. It gets worse. Much, much worse. That's why this thread is 285 pages long.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I watched the pilot episode for the first time last night. It was good I guess. By all the hype I am assuming that the show gets better and better as it goes along. I plan to stream the whole first season and see how it goes. How many seasons are there, 6? 7?

5.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I watched the pilot episode for the first time last night. It was good I guess. By all the hype I am assuming that the show gets better and better as it goes along. I plan to stream the whole first season and see how it goes. How many seasons are there, 6? 7?

5.

3, sir.

 

[Jayrok]

I watched the pilot episode for the first time last night. It was good I guess. By all the hype I am assuming that the show gets better and better as it goes along. I plan to stream the whole first season and see how it goes. How many seasons are there, 6? 7?

Nope. It gets worse. Much, much worse. That's why this thread is 285 pages long.

The Lost thread was pretty long too. Most posts were to complain about plot holes, so sometimes it's safe to assume, sometimes not.

 

[TheIronSheik]

After re-watching some of these episodes during the marathon I think that I might enjoy it more watching the entire series from start to finish the second time.

Just skip the Fly episode. I love this show and think it's brilliant. But when watching it with my GF to catch her up, I remember even apologizing ahead of time for that episode. Maybe it was too deep for me to understand? I don't know. But it seemed like they didn't just pump the brakes with that episode. The flat out pulled the emergency brake.

Yes, you do.

Did you seriously like that episode?

It was very slow and not that good. To me, anyway.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I watched the pilot episode for the first time last night. It was good I guess. By all the hype I am assuming that the show gets better and better as it goes along. I plan to stream the whole first season and see how it goes. How many seasons are there, 6? 7?

Each episode steps up a notch like going up a full number on the Richter Scale.

 

[Christo]

I watched the pilot episode for the first time last night. It was good I guess. By all the hype I am assuming that the show gets better and better as it goes along. I plan to stream the whole first season and see how it goes. How many seasons are there, 6? 7?

Nope. It gets worse. Much, much worse. That's why this thread is 285 pages long.

Yep. He might as well just watch the finale Sunday night and be done with it.

 

[Christo]

After re-watching some of these episodes during the marathon I think that I might enjoy it more watching the entire series from start to finish the second time.

Just skip the Fly episode. I love this show and think it's brilliant. But when watching it with my GF to catch her up, I remember even apologizing ahead of time for that episode. Maybe it was too deep for me to understand? I don't know. But it seemed like they didn't just pump the brakes with that episode. The flat out pulled the emergency brake.

Yes, you do.

Did you seriously like that episode?

It was very slow and not that good. To me, anyway.

Like? I loved it.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I watched the pilot episode for the first time last night. It was good I guess. By all the hype I am assuming that the show gets better and better as it goes along. I plan to stream the whole first season and see how it goes. How many seasons are there, 6? 7?

5.

3, sir.

Right!

 

[TheIronSheik]

After re-watching some of these episodes during the marathon I think that I might enjoy it more watching the entire series from start to finish the second time.

Just skip the Fly episode. I love this show and think it's brilliant. But when watching it with my GF to catch her up, I remember even apologizing ahead of time for that episode. Maybe it was too deep for me to understand? I don't know. But it seemed like they didn't just pump the brakes with that episode. The flat out pulled the emergency brake.

Yes, you do.

Did you seriously like that episode?

It was very slow and not that good. To me, anyway.

Like? I loved it.

That's cool. I'm not saying my opinion is right by any means.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

After re-watching some of these episodes during the marathon I think that I might enjoy it more watching the entire series from start to finish the second time.

Just skip the Fly episode. I love this show and think it's brilliant. But when watching it with my GF to catch her up, I remember even apologizing ahead of time for that episode. Maybe it was too deep for me to understand? I don't know. But it seemed like they didn't just pump the brakes with that episode. The flat out pulled the emergency brake.

Yes, you do.

Did you seriously like that episode? It was very slow and not that good. To me, anyway.

Loved Fly.

 

[dparker713]

After re-watching some of these episodes during the marathon I think that I might enjoy it more watching the entire series from start to finish the second time.

Just skip the Fly episode. I love this show and think it's brilliant. But when watching it with my GF to catch her up, I remember even apologizing ahead of time for that episode. Maybe it was too deep for me to understand? I don't know. But it seemed like they didn't just pump the brakes with that episode. The flat out pulled the emergency brake.

Yes, you do.

Did you seriously like that episode?

It was very slow and not that good. To me, anyway.

Like? I loved it.

That's cool. I'm not saying my opinion is right by any means.

That's good. Cause your opinion is wrong.

 

[cstu]

I just have a feeling Gretchen and Grey Matter is a big part of the ending. Could be way off here, I don't know. It was already revealed in 5a that a big reason (the biggest IMO) for Walt's continued cooking after his cancer remits is because of his fallout at GM.

The whole reason that the series didn't end with this past episode is that they refused to give him any credit for Gray Matter. Then we know that he goes to get the ricin in the finale so it's not a stretch to think he's going to kill Elliott and Gretchen.

I'm sure this has been covered before, but what's he going to do? Stroll up to the front lobby and ask for Elliott?

I'm not so sure he kills them... I feel like it will be something more poetic than that if he actually seeks revenge on the Schwartzes.

Revenge for what? Walt voluntarily accepted a buy-out from Grey Matter. When the Schwartzes said that he didn't have much to do with the firm's success, they were telling the truth, and Walt is bitterly aware of it. He has absolutely nothing to take revenge for when it comes to these two.

The GF and I were talking about this the other day and we couldn't remember how him leaving went down. Why did he leave? It's been so long since I've watched that season.

Season 2Gretchen later discovers that Walter lied to his family about her and Elliott paying for his treatment, horrified when Walter angrily and bitterly blames her and Elliott for ruining his life. Although she claims that Walter sees it wrong, it is still unknown what transpired, only that on Fourth of July weekend with Gretchen, her father, and her brothers, Walt was in his room packing his bags and barely talking. Walt left Gretchen and his research behind suddenly and without explanation.

 

[TheIronSheik]

After re-watching some of these episodes during the marathon I think that I might enjoy it more watching the entire series from start to finish the second time.

Just skip the Fly episode. I love this show and think it's brilliant. But when watching it with my GF to catch her up, I remember even apologizing ahead of time for that episode. Maybe it was too deep for me to understand? I don't know. But it seemed like they didn't just pump the brakes with that episode. The flat out pulled the emergency brake.

Yes, you do.

Did you seriously like that episode?

It was very slow and not that good. To me, anyway.

Like? I loved it.

That's cool. I'm not saying my opinion is right by any means.

That's good. Cause your opinion is wrong.

OK.

 

[bostonfred]

Fly advanced the Jesse/Walt relationship a little, and it gave a good sense of how long they were stuck in the lab, and how well concealed the lab really was that a single fly was that noticeable a contaminant. But it was definitely a slow episode.

I think it was at the end of fly though, when he collapses with exhaustion because he hasn't slept in 48 hours after chasing that fly around, and he's sitting in a chair mumbling very much like he did when he asked which cell phone was ringing, and he tells Jesse that he's sorry about Jane. And all you can think is, oh no, he's going to admit that he saw it. But luckily for him, Jesse just takes it as condolences and not an apology. That was one of the most edge-of-your-seat moments in the show that I can remember.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Fly advanced the Jesse/Walt relationship a little, and it gave a good sense of how long they were stuck in the lab, and how well concealed the lab really was that a single fly was that noticeable a contaminant. But it was definitely a slow episode.

I think it was at the end of fly though, when he collapses with exhaustion because he hasn't slept in 48 hours after chasing that fly around, and he's sitting in a chair mumbling very much like he did when he asked which cell phone was ringing, and he tells Jesse that he's sorry about Jane. And all you can think is, oh no, he's going to admit that he saw it. But luckily for him, Jesse just takes it as condolences and not an apology. That was one of the most edge-of-your-seat moments in the show that I can remember.

Yeah. I'm not saying it was a crap episode. I just thought it was really slow. That said, it's just a small complaint of mine.

 

[badmojo1006]

"You are a blow fish!"

 

[bostonfred]

Fly advanced the Jesse/Walt relationship a little, and it gave a good sense of how long they were stuck in the lab, and how well concealed the lab really was that a single fly was that noticeable a contaminant. But it was definitely a slow episode.

I think it was at the end of fly though, when he collapses with exhaustion because he hasn't slept in 48 hours after chasing that fly around, and he's sitting in a chair mumbling very much like he did when he asked which cell phone was ringing, and he tells Jesse that he's sorry about Jane. And all you can think is, oh no, he's going to admit that he saw it. But luckily for him, Jesse just takes it as condolences and not an apology. That was one of the most edge-of-your-seat moments in the show that I can remember.

Yeah. I'm not saying it was a crap episode. I just thought it was really slow. That said, it's just a small complaint of mine.

My complaint was Skyler's #####iness about the second cell phone that ultimately led to their separation. I don't think it's crazy to think that a pregnant woman would go off the deep end in an argument. But I do think it's a little crazy to think that a pregnant woman whose husband is dying of cancer and who just had some kind of weird episode where he lost track of where he was and woke up naked in a supermarket with no memory of what had happened would escalate a fight like that as quickly as she did. And those scenes, while realistic and well acted and an important part of the plot, were painful to watch.

 

[comfortably numb]

I think Walt's bitterness implies that he did have something to do with the firm's success. He might have lost his mind, but I don't recall him ever taking credit for something that he didn't have a significant hand in creating or ever demonstrating anything close to that kind of behavior.

The whole Grey Matter thing was explained several seasons ago. Walt doesn't claim that he had a lot to do with the company. He just knows that he made a huge, life-altering mistake by accepting a buy-out. He gives a little speech in one episode about how he sold his son's birthright for a few months of house payments or something like that. There is not a single time that I know of anywhere in the entire series where Walt claims credit for Grey Matter's success. For him, this was just gigantic ####-up and serves as a motivation for why he wants to build a meth empire to replace the legitimate empire that he foolishly sold away.

""It was my hard work. My research. And you and Elliott made millions off it."

Looking it up, that was back in Season Two. What steps has Walt taken to "take revenge" on the Schwartzes in the meantime?

Everything he's done to build this empire was not so much 'revenge' but rather a means of redemption, making up for the missed opportunity he had with GM. Make no mistake, the GM conflict has been there this whole time. It's not mentioned a lot, but it's there and it's a huge force behind the entire series.

I agree with all of this. That's why I think it's kind of odd to suddenly turn this into a revenge story-line.

Again, they were on national TV saying the ONLY thing he contributed to Grey Matter was the name.

That is a total slap in the face to Walter White, the man before Heinseberg.

It would be like Todd taking credit and telling entire meth world that the only thing Heinsenberg contributed to the purest meth on the planet was adding chili pepper to get a blue color.

Not sure how it goes, but I could see a F everyone, I have nothing to lose and I am taking everyone with me attitude.

It's not chili powder that makes it blue. That was Jesse's invention that Walt did away with.

Tuco: “Blue, yellow, pink, whatever man! Just keep bringing me that!”

I know, was trying to make a good comparison and funny at the same time.....made neither

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

My complaint was Skyler's #####iness about the second cell phone that ultimately led to their separation. I don't think it's crazy to think that a pregnant woman would go off the deep end in an argument. But I do think it's a little crazy to think that a pregnant woman whose husband is dying of cancer and who just had some kind of weird episode where he lost track of where he was and woke up naked in a supermarket with no memory of what had happened would escalate a fight like that as quickly as she did. And those scenes, while realistic and well acted and an important part of the plot, were painful to watch.

from the beginning, she was always the only person who could easily see right through his and know he was lying. she just didn't always call him on it but it was kind of amazing how much she put up with at times. obviously, there were other issues at play too, but that character was pretty perceptive imo. tough to overlook things when you know you're being lied to repeatedly, and Walt was not a very good liar in the beginning of the series even though he thought he could talk his way out of everything.

since Walt was the protagonist, I do remember being frustrated that she wasn't more gullible at times.

 

[Christo]

Fly advanced the Jesse/Walt relationship a little, and it gave a good sense of how long they were stuck in the lab, and how well concealed the lab really was that a single fly was that noticeable a contaminant. But it was definitely a slow episode.

I think it was at the end of fly though, when he collapses with exhaustion because he hasn't slept in 48 hours after chasing that fly around, and he's sitting in a chair mumbling very much like he did when he asked which cell phone was ringing, and he tells Jesse that he's sorry about Jane. And all you can think is, oh no, he's going to admit that he saw it. But luckily for him, Jesse just takes it as condolences and not an apology. That was one of the most edge-of-your-seat moments in the show that I can remember.

Yeah. I'm not saying it was a crap episode. I just thought it was really slow. That said, it's just a small complaint of mine.

We'll let it slide this time.

 

[dutch]

Fly advanced the Jesse/Walt relationship a little, and it gave a good sense of how long they were stuck in the lab, and how well concealed the lab really was that a single fly was that noticeable a contaminant. But it was definitely a slow episode.

I think it was at the end of fly though, when he collapses with exhaustion because he hasn't slept in 48 hours after chasing that fly around, and he's sitting in a chair mumbling very much like he did when he asked which cell phone was ringing, and he tells Jesse that he's sorry about Jane. And all you can think is, oh no, he's going to admit that he saw it. But luckily for him, Jesse just takes it as condolences and not an apology. That was one of the most edge-of-your-seat moments in the show that I can remember.

Yeah. I'm not saying it was a crap episode. I just thought it was really slow. That said, it's just a small complaint of mine.

My complaint was Skyler's #####iness about the second cell phone that ultimately led to their separation. I don't think it's crazy to think that a pregnant woman would go off the deep end in an argument. But I do think it's a little crazy to think that a pregnant woman whose husband is dying of cancer and who just had some kind of weird episode where he lost track of where he was and woke up naked in a supermarket with no memory of what had happened would escalate a fight like that as quickly as she did. And those scenes, while realistic and well acted and an important part of the plot, were painful to watch.

see that's just it though, Skyler never believed Walt's story about the fugue state or his second cell phone and that's because Walter White is terrible with lying. She could tell that he was hiding something and if you've ever been in that postiton with someone you love you know that that kind of suspicious mistrust weighs on you. I found it totally beleivable that a pregnant Skyler was edgy and #####y about the whole thing.

 

[bostonfred]

My complaint was Skyler's #####iness about the second cell phone that ultimately led to their separation. I don't think it's crazy to think that a pregnant woman would go off the deep end in an argument. But I do think it's a little crazy to think that a pregnant woman whose husband is dying of cancer and who just had some kind of weird episode where he lost track of where he was and woke up naked in a supermarket with no memory of what had happened would escalate a fight like that as quickly as she did. And those scenes, while realistic and well acted and an important part of the plot, were painful to watch.

from the beginning, she was always the only person who could easily see right through his and know he was lying. she just didn't always call him on it but it was kind of amazing how much she put up with at times. obviously, there were other issues at play too, but that character was pretty perceptive imo. tough to overlook things when you know you're being lied to repeatedly, and Walt was not a very good liar in the beginning of the series even though he thought he could talk his way out of everything.

since Walt was the protagonist, I do remember being frustrated that she wasn't more gullible at times.

she was a natural liar, a good bs detector, a vindictive #####, and a fairly smooth criminal between cooking the books and laundering money. but she was absolutely terrible at taking care of her family. walking into the swimming pool? wtf. letting him walk away with holly before she realized it and could stop him? ouch. she seemed like a strong woman character written by a man, and that was one of the few things that lifted the veil for me when I was watching the show.

 

[Michael Brown]

I always thought Walt could have gotten out of the "which cell phone" comment by saying he was under heavy anesthesia and didn't know what he was saying. Considering Schuyler had already called him out prior to that for the second phone, it wouldn't have been a stretch for him to say that she must have put the idea of a second phone in his head and that his subconscious must have been why he said that. Course it would have had to have been pretty spur of the moment, and as we've mentioned before, he's not as good at lying when he hasn't had time to map out the whole lie.

 

[comfortably numb]

My complaint was Skyler's #####iness about the second cell phone that ultimately led to their separation. I don't think it's crazy to think that a pregnant woman would go off the deep end in an argument. But I do think it's a little crazy to think that a pregnant woman whose husband is dying of cancer and who just had some kind of weird episode where he lost track of where he was and woke up naked in a supermarket with no memory of what had happened would escalate a fight like that as quickly as she did. And those scenes, while realistic and well acted and an important part of the plot, were painful to watch.

from the beginning, she was always the only person who could easily see right through his and know he was lying. she just didn't always call him on it but it was kind of amazing how much she put up with at times. obviously, there were other issues at play too, but that character was pretty perceptive imo. tough to overlook things when you know you're being lied to repeatedly, and Walt was not a very good liar in the beginning of the series even though he thought he could talk his way out of everything.

since Walt was the protagonist, I do remember being frustrated that she wasn't more gullible at times.

she was a natural liar, a good bs detector, a vindictive #####, and a fairly smooth criminal between cooking the books and laundering money. but she was absolutely terrible at taking care of her family. walking into the swimming pool? wtf. letting him walk away with holly before she realized it and could stop him? ouch. she seemed like a strong woman character written by a man, and that was one of the few things that lifted the veil for me when I was watching the show.

I think you are just looking for things to pick with her.

The Holly thing was so quick and you know...she just stabbed her husband.

Walking into a pool...She was done. Ready to just end it.

Not sure what aspect about taking care of the family you are talking about?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Fly advanced the Jesse/Walt relationship a little, and it gave a good sense of how long they were stuck in the lab, and how well concealed the lab really was that a single fly was that noticeable a contaminant. But it was definitely a slow episode.

I think it was at the end of fly though, when he collapses with exhaustion because he hasn't slept in 48 hours after chasing that fly around, and he's sitting in a chair mumbling very much like he did when he asked which cell phone was ringing, and he tells Jesse that he's sorry about Jane. And all you can think is, oh no, he's going to admit that he saw it. But luckily for him, Jesse just takes it as condolences and not an apology. That was one of the most edge-of-your-seat moments in the show that I can remember.

Yeah. I'm not saying it was a crap episode. I just thought it was really slow. That said, it's just a small complaint of mine.

We'll let it slide this time.

I appreciate your understanding in this matter.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Fly advanced the Jesse/Walt relationship a little, and it gave a good sense of how long they were stuck in the lab, and how well concealed the lab really was that a single fly was that noticeable a contaminant. But it was definitely a slow episode.

I think it was at the end of fly though, when he collapses with exhaustion because he hasn't slept in 48 hours after chasing that fly around, and he's sitting in a chair mumbling very much like he did when he asked which cell phone was ringing, and he tells Jesse that he's sorry about Jane. And all you can think is, oh no, he's going to admit that he saw it. But luckily for him, Jesse just takes it as condolences and not an apology. That was one of the most edge-of-your-seat moments in the show that I can remember.

Yeah. I'm not saying it was a crap episode. I just thought it was really slow. That said, it's just a small complaint of mine.

My complaint was Skyler's #####iness about the second cell phone that ultimately led to their separation. I don't think it's crazy to think that a pregnant woman would go off the deep end in an argument. But I do think it's a little crazy to think that a pregnant woman whose husband is dying of cancer and who just had some kind of weird episode where he lost track of where he was and woke up naked in a supermarket with no memory of what had happened would escalate a fight like that as quickly as she did. And those scenes, while realistic and well acted and an important part of the plot, were painful to watch.

see that's just it though, Skyler never believed Walt's story about the fugue state or his second cell phone and that's because Walter White is terrible with lying. She could tell that he was hiding something and if you've ever been in that postiton with someone you love you know that that kind of suspicious mistrust weighs on you. I found it totally beleivable that a pregnant Skyler was edgy and #####y about the whole thing.

Actually, he's an amazing liar. Except to Skylar. Then he becomes an idiot.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I always thought Walt could have gotten out of the "which cell phone" comment by saying he was under heavy anesthesia and didn't know what he was saying. Considering Schuyler had already called him out prior to that for the second phone, it wouldn't have been a stretch for him to say that she must have put the idea of a second phone in his head and that his subconscious must have been why he said that. Course it would have had to have been pretty spur of the moment, and as we've mentioned before, he's not as good at lying when he hasn't had time to map out the whole lie.

He tried that. She didn't buy it.

 

[comfortably numb]

Fly advanced the Jesse/Walt relationship a little, and it gave a good sense of how long they were stuck in the lab, and how well concealed the lab really was that a single fly was that noticeable a contaminant. But it was definitely a slow episode.

I think it was at the end of fly though, when he collapses with exhaustion because he hasn't slept in 48 hours after chasing that fly around, and he's sitting in a chair mumbling very much like he did when he asked which cell phone was ringing, and he tells Jesse that he's sorry about Jane. And all you can think is, oh no, he's going to admit that he saw it. But luckily for him, Jesse just takes it as condolences and not an apology. That was one of the most edge-of-your-seat moments in the show that I can remember.

Yeah. I'm not saying it was a crap episode. I just thought it was really slow. That said, it's just a small complaint of mine.

My complaint was Skyler's #####iness about the second cell phone that ultimately led to their separation. I don't think it's crazy to think that a pregnant woman would go off the deep end in an argument. But I do think it's a little crazy to think that a pregnant woman whose husband is dying of cancer and who just had some kind of weird episode where he lost track of where he was and woke up naked in a supermarket with no memory of what had happened would escalate a fight like that as quickly as she did. And those scenes, while realistic and well acted and an important part of the plot, were painful to watch.

see that's just it though, Skyler never believed Walt's story about the fugue state or his second cell phone and that's because Walter White is terrible with lying. She could tell that he was hiding something and if you've ever been in that postiton with someone you love you know that that kind of suspicious mistrust weighs on you. I found it totally beleivable that a pregnant Skyler was edgy and #####y about the whole thing.

Actually, he's an amazing liar. Except to Skylar. Then he becomes an idiot.

Agreed. Could never keep eye contact, making a story longer than it needed to be.

When it came to hank/flynn or Jesse it was totally different

 

[17seconds]

I need to make plans now to disconnect myself from the world at 5pm on Sunday. No internet, no phone, probably no TV. It'll be family game night till the kids go to bed.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I need to make plans now to disconnect myself from the world at 5pm on Sunday. No internet, no phone, probably no TV. It'll be family game night till the kids go to bed.

This is my MO almost every Sunday night. Black it all out.