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[Aaron Rudnicki]

RIP Landry. Probably kicking field goals in heaven right now.

 

[TheGoat9]

Does anyone know if Marie gave up shoplifting or the purple after Hank's death? Seems like a detail they left open.

 

[SacramentoBob]

"Sir, it appears there are about 8 dead people here. They died in a shootout. One of them appears to be Walter White."

"Good. Case closed."

"Sir, should we check for fingerprints on any of the guns or equipment?"

"Not need, detective. Walter White is dead."

"Sir?"

"He's dead. Case closed."

DAYS LATER.....

"Sir, we went ahead and ran fingerprints on the guns and Jessie Pinkman's fingerprints came back."

"I thought I said case closed."

"You did. But I just thought we should, maybe, do some police work."

"Well, it doesn't matter anyway. He's probably long gone by now. Nothing we can do."

"Sir, it was a multiple homicide in a case that involved one of the DEA's most wanted criminals. Don't you think we should forward the prints to them?"

"No. No need. I'm sure he's left the state by now. He's pretty much in the wind by now. Besides, Walter White is dead. Case closed. Who's up for some coffee down at Dunkin' Donuts?"

You pretty much summarized seasons 3 & 4.

 

[TheIronSheik]

"Sir, it appears there are about 8 dead people here. They died in a shootout. One of them appears to be Walter White."

"Good. Case closed."

"Sir, should we check for fingerprints on any of the guns or equipment?"

"Not need, detective. Walter White is dead."

"Sir?"

"He's dead. Case closed."

DAYS LATER.....

"Sir, we went ahead and ran fingerprints on the guns and Jessie Pinkman's fingerprints came back."

"I thought I said case closed."

"You did. But I just thought we should, maybe, do some police work."

"Well, it doesn't matter anyway. He's probably long gone by now. Nothing we can do."

"Sir, it was a multiple homicide in a case that involved one of the DEA's most wanted criminals. Don't you think we should forward the prints to them?"

"No. No need. I'm sure he's left the state by now. He's pretty much in the wind by now. Besides, Walter White is dead. Case closed. Who's up for some coffee down at Dunkin' Donuts?"

You pretty much summarized seasons 3 & 4.

It's been a couple years since I watched them but I don't remember Walt dying in those seasons.

 

[Ghost Rider]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

 

[Major]

Since this issue was never brought to light, what do you think led to the riff between Walt and Elliot+Gretchen? I'm betting a combo of infidelity and hubris on Walt's part. Pretty sure he banged Gretchen and/or Elliot bagged Skylar.

 

[kutta]

For those not familiar, the lyrics to the song Felina is a reference to.

Spoiler

Out in the West Texas town of El Paso

I fell in love with a Mexican girl.

Night-time would find me in Rosa's cantina;

Music would play and Felina would whirl.

Blacker than night were the eyes of Felina,

Wicked and evil while casting a spell.

My love was deep for this Mexican maiden;

I was in love but in vain, I could tell.

One night a wild young cowboy came in,

Wild as the West Texas wind.

Dashing and daring,

A drink he was sharing

With wicked Felina,

The girl that I loved.

So in anger I

Challenged his right for the love of this maiden.

Down went his hand for the gun that he wore.

My challenge was answered in less than a heart-beat;

The handsome young stranger lay dead on the floor.

Just for a moment I stood there in silence,

Shocked by the FOUL EVIL deed I had done.

Many thoughts raced through my mind as I stood there;

I had but one chance and that was to run.

Out through the back door of Rosa's I ran,

Out where the horses were tied.

I caught a good one.

It looked like it could run.

Up on its back

And away I did ride,

Just as fast as I

Could from the West Texas town of El Paso

Out to the bad-lands of New Mexico.

Back in El Paso my life would be worthless.

Everything's gone in life; nothing is left.

It's been so long since I've seen the young maiden

My love is stronger than my fear of death.

I saddled up and away I did go,

Riding alone in the dark.

Maybe tomorrow

A bullet may find me.

Tonight nothing's worse than this

Pain in my heart.

And at last here I

Am on the hill overlooking El Paso;

I can see Rosa's cantina below.

My love is strong and it pushes me onward.

Down off the hill to Felina I go.

Off to my right I see five mounted cowboys;

Off to my left ride a dozen or more.

Shouting and shooting I can't let them catch me.

I have to make it to Rosa's back door.

Something is dreadfully wrong for I feel

A deep burning pain in my side.

Though I am trying

To stay in the saddle,

I'm getting weary,

Unable to ride.

But my love for

Felina is strong and I rise where I've fallen,

Though I am weary I can't stop to rest.

I see the white puff of smoke from the rifle.

I feel the bullet go deep in my chest.

From out of nowhere Felina has found me,

Kissing my cheek as she kneels by my side.

Cradled by two loving arms that I'll die for,

One little kiss and Felina, good-bye.

Spoiler

Is the name of this song actually Felina? I thought it was El Paso.

I'm going to sound like a nerd here (my dad was a huge Marty Robbins fan and it rubbed off on me), but you are right, the name of the song is El Paso. The girl in the song is named Felina.

Marty Robbins wrote another song later on called "Felina." This song told the same story but from Feilna's point of view.

From listening to both songs many times over, Felina sounds like a pretty cool chick.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Since this issue was never brought to light, what do you think led to the riff between Walt and Elliot+Gretchen? I'm betting a combo of infidelity and hubris on Walt's part. Pretty sure he banged Gretchen and/or Elliot bagged Skylar.

I figured it was a threesome. Well, 5some if you count Elliots huge ears.

 

[TheIronSheik]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

Not to mention that while they were meticulously clean when cooking, I don't think they were wiping down fingerprints. I could be wrong if they stated that. But I think being clean was more about making meth correctly. Not about covering their butts in case anyone ever located the cook house.

 

[kupcho1]

AMC is so shameless.

"Thanks for watching Breaking Bad, now buy this really expensive car you can't afford."\

WTF?

This joint AMC/Mercedes-Benz ad where they "thank" Breaking Bad and then proceed to show off this really snazzy vehicle.

You mean a television advertisement?

How dare they!

 

[Major]

I'm still disappointed Walt Jr didn't die a miserable death. I'd get Jesse to sew his a**hole shut and keep feeding him and feeding him and feeding him pancakes.

 

[cstu]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

They'll know Pinkman was involved but there's no way they can charge him. If he quits the business and becomes an upstanding citizen he'll end up a note in the DEA's records.

 

[cstu]

The suspense/hilarity of Cabin Walt wandering around Elliott and Gretchen's house isn't getting enough love.

Yeah that was pretty damn funny!

I haven't seen any review reference what was one of the funnier lines of the entire series, "Elliot, if we're going to go that route you're going to need a bigger knife."

That was a great line.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

They specifically said "go get Jesse from the lab?" I thought he was in the hole and that's what took them so long to get him. The scene of Jesse cooking took place way earlier.

 

[cstu]

I must be the only person who didn't get all emotional during the flashback scene. I understood its point but it didn't hit me in the gut or anything. Of all the emotionally satisfying scenes in the episode that one didn't even register much with me.

At the time it didnt hit me, after I watched it again that's when it did. Just seeing how far they all came, how much changed,Hank dying, family in ruins and Walt dead put that scene on another level the second time around. Everyone was "happy" then.

Except for the guy dying of cancer who was going to leave his family broke.

 

[jamny]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

They specifically said "go get Jesse from the lab?" I thought he was in the hole and that's what took them so long to get him. The scene of Jesse cooking took place way earlier.

Todd said he was finishing up a cook.

 

[cstu]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

They specifically said "go get Jesse from the lab?" I thought he was in the hole and that's what took them so long to get him. The scene of Jesse cooking took place way earlier.

It doesn't matter, I don't think Jesse's biggest concern there was his fingerprints.

 

[Major]

I thought they were going in another direction but damn does this show employ some great writers.

Crazy stuff. It's a shame there's only about six of us here who watch this show.

That's what worries me. Don't want this thing ending prematurely. Even my friends that love this type of genre and watch much more TV than me have yet to watch it. After telling someone 10-15x about a show you just have to give up on them and enjoy it for yourself.

Boy, how things have changed since 2009. Good to see all you sheep follow us.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

Not to mention that while they were meticulously clean when cooking, I don't think they were wiping down fingerprints. I could be wrong if they stated that. But I think being clean was more about making meth correctly. Not about covering their butts in case anyone ever located the cook house.

I don't know, but I didn't notice any prints on the shiny vat that Walt was leaning on.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I must be the only person who didn't get all emotional during the flashback scene. I understood its point but it didn't hit me in the gut or anything. Of all the emotionally satisfying scenes in the episode that one didn't even register much with me.

At the time it didnt hit me, after I watched it again that's when it did. Just seeing how far they all came, how much changed,Hank dying, family in ruins and Walt dead put that scene on another level the second time around. Everyone was "happy" then.

Except for the guy dying of cancer who was going to leave his family broke.

 

[TheIronSheik]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

Not to mention that while they were meticulously clean when cooking, I don't think they were wiping down fingerprints. I could be wrong if they stated that. But I think being clean was more about making meth correctly. Not about covering their butts in case anyone ever located the cook house.

I don't know, but I didn't notice any prints on the shiny vat that Walt was leaning on.

Again, they cleaned the equipment to make the meth. I don't think they ever showed them wiping down the tables, or the old coffee machine, or anything else after each time they left. They cleaned it like they cleaned up after a job. Kitchen staff at a restaurant clean up at the end of the night, but I'm guessing there are fingerprints that can be found.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Anonymous donation to their charity launders it pretty quickly, yes?

Anonymously giving the money away doesn't launder it any more than burning it in the fireplace does.

The point of laundering money is that you get to keep it.

The point of laundering money is to make it appear to be coming from a legitimate, legal income source.

Yeah, so it can be spent -- not so it can be anonymously given away. If a drug-dealing client comes into Saul's office and says he has a million dollars he wants laundered, and if Saul says, "That's easy; just give it all away to charity anonymously," the client will not be impressed. That's not laundering money; it's disposing of it.

For Walt Jr, having that money come from the Grey Matter people - who are billionaires - legitimizes it.

Sure, but that's independent of the laundering issue. The Schwartzes could give Walt Jr. $9.7 million after burning Walt's cash in the fireplace as easily as they could after anonymously giving it to charity.

In theory, they can probably keep that barrel of cash in a safe in their home and not draw any suspicion should it ever be found, on the basis that billionaires having stacks of cash for a doomsday scenario isn't that unreasonable.

But that's not laundering, either. The whole point of laundering money is making it spendable or investable or otherwise usable so that it doesn't have to just sit in a pile in the basement.

They can fund the Walt Jr trust with their own business funds that they use to make the rest of their charitable contributions.

I don't think they could use business funds; it would be a breach of their fiduciary duty to the shareholders. For a publicly held corporation, donating to a 501©(3) is one thing; voluntarily funding a trust for a private beneficiary for no consideration is quite another.

If they give Walt, Jr. $9.7 million, it will be from their personal funds. No problem there. I'm not saying that they can't give Walt, Jr. as much money as they want to. I'm just saying that anonymously donating Walt's cash to charity won't help them in that endeavor whatsoever.

 

[cstu]

After thinking about it for much of the day, the whole story seems sad. And that's a great emotion for a show that was alternately funny and horrifying. I described the show to friends that hadn't seen it as "a show about a middle-aged, middle class guy that makes decisions that ultimately lead to death and destruction for everyone around him." And thinking about it, that's the kind of story that really should be heartbreakingly sad.

The "climax" of the story was Ozymandius and as Sepinwall wrote, the last two weeks are just the epilogue to that. But when Skyler was talking to him and he finally said, "No...I did it for me...I liked it, and I was good at it...." the utter and complete depressing sadness of the whole story really came in to focus. I thought that was the emotional high-point of the entire series and every scene after that may as well have been after-the-credits. I guess I don't care to nitpick the last twenty minutes because while I was entertained, the end result didn't matter to me anymore - Walter finally acknowledging to Skyler the truth about why he did was the important part.

The series protagonist has been leaving a hurricane of death and destruction in his wake all the while telling himself and all around that it was for family. He finally admitted it was because he was selfish and not becuase of the family at all. That and the flashback to Hank in the living room just killed me.

I struggled with these feelings also but read my previous post about this.

Walt told Skylar what she needed to be told in order for her to move on- that he was responsible for the death of Hank and the cause for the destruction of the family, that it was him who did everything and it was her who was the innocent one. His family needed for him to do that.

Nevermind that Skylar a few months ago wanted to kill Jesse, she lavished when she stood next to Ted in the hospital bed and saw the terror in his eyes, never mind that she loved all the money, and only suddenly found her morality when Hank caught onto them.

At least she's a pariah and broke...at least until Jr. gets his money.

 

[Zow]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

They specifically said "go get Jesse from the lab?" I thought he was in the hole and that's what took them so long to get him. The scene of Jesse cooking took place way earlier.

I think Landry said he was in the middle of a batch.

 

[Politician Spock]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

They'll know Pinkman was involved but there's no way they can charge him. If he quits the business and becomes an upstanding citizen he'll end up a note in the DEA's records.

I agree.

If they go after him and find him, he'll just say it was their money that he was throwing out his car window. They were so pissed they caught him, enslaved him, and forced him to cook for them while chained up. There's more than enough evidence of that, and it explains where the money he was throwing out his window came from and why he didn't want it. It was drug money, and not his.

 

[FDAS]

This thread would be a lot better if most of you people were locked away as meth slaves.

 

[cstu]

Am I the only one not disappointed that Hank died? He could have put family above his job and been alive and rich. In fact, Walt could have helped him catch the Nazis and Hank would have been a hero.

 

[dparker713]

Anonymous donation to their charity launders it pretty quickly, yes?

Anonymously giving the money away doesn't launder it any more than burning it in the fireplace does.

The point of laundering money is that you get to keep it.

The point of laundering money is to make it appear to be coming from a legitimate, legal income source.

Yeah, so it can be spent -- not so it can be anonymously given away. If a drug-dealing client comes into Saul's office and says he has a million dollars he wants laundered, and if Saul says, "That's easy; just give it all away to charity anonymously," the client will not be impressed. That's not laundering money; it's disposing of it.

For Walt Jr, having that money come from the Grey Matter people - who are billionaires - legitimizes it.

Sure, but that's independent of the laundering issue. The Schwartzes could give Walt Jr. $9.7 million after burning Walt's cash in the fireplace as easily as they could after anonymously giving it to charity.

In theory, they can probably keep that barrel of cash in a safe in their home and not draw any suspicion should it ever be found, on the basis that billionaires having stacks of cash for a doomsday scenario isn't that unreasonable.

But that's not laundering, either. The whole point of laundering money is making it spendable or investable or otherwise usable so that it doesn't have to just sit in a pile in the basement.

They can fund the Walt Jr trust with their own business funds that they use to make the rest of their charitable contributions.

I don't think they could use business funds; it would be a breach of their fiduciary duty to the shareholders. For a publicly held corporation, donating to a 501©(3) is one thing; voluntarily funding a trust for a private beneficiary for no consideration is quite another.

If they give Walt, Jr. $9.7 million, it will be from their personal funds. No problem there. I'm not saying that they can't give Walt, Jr. as much money as they want to. I'm just saying that anonymously donating Walt's cash to charity won't help them in that endeavor whatsoever.

It would be really easy for them to get the money to a private banker that deposits the cash for them in another country. The rich have little issue getting around banking regulations.

 

[dparker713]

Some people in this thread are overestimating the amount of lab work they would do at the Nazi compound.

 

[SacramentoBob]

"Sir, it appears there are about 8 dead people here. They died in a shootout. One of them appears to be Walter White."

"Good. Case closed."

"Sir, should we check for fingerprints on any of the guns or equipment?"

"Not need, detective. Walter White is dead."

"Sir?"

"He's dead. Case closed."

DAYS LATER.....

"Sir, we went ahead and ran fingerprints on the guns and Jessie Pinkman's fingerprints came back."

"I thought I said case closed."

"You did. But I just thought we should, maybe, do some police work."

"Well, it doesn't matter anyway. He's probably long gone by now. Nothing we can do."

"Sir, it was a multiple homicide in a case that involved one of the DEA's most wanted criminals. Don't you think we should forward the prints to them?"

"No. No need. I'm sure he's left the state by now. He's pretty much in the wind by now. Besides, Walter White is dead. Case closed. Who's up for some coffee down at Dunkin' Donuts?"

You pretty much summarized seasons 3 & 4.

It's been a couple years since I watched them but I don't remember Walt dying in those seasons.

Heisenberg was jailed or killed several times from the perspective of the DEA. And each time they wanted to leave well enough alone.

 

[Zow]

After thinking about it for much of the day, the whole story seems sad. And that's a great emotion for a show that was alternately funny and horrifying. I described the show to friends that hadn't seen it as "a show about a middle-aged, middle class guy that makes decisions that ultimately lead to death and destruction for everyone around him." And thinking about it, that's the kind of story that really should be heartbreakingly sad.

The "climax" of the story was Ozymandius and as Sepinwall wrote, the last two weeks are just the epilogue to that. But when Skyler was talking to him and he finally said, "No...I did it for me...I liked it, and I was good at it...." the utter and complete depressing sadness of the whole story really came in to focus. I thought that was the emotional high-point of the entire series and every scene after that may as well have been after-the-credits. I guess I don't care to nitpick the last twenty minutes because while I was entertained, the end result didn't matter to me anymore - Walter finally acknowledging to Skyler the truth about why he did was the important part.

The series protagonist has been leaving a hurricane of death and destruction in his wake all the while telling himself and all around that it was for family. He finally admitted it was because he was selfish and not becuase of the family at all. That and the flashback to Hank in the living room just killed me.

can you completely fault him though. middle aged guy who's always done the right thing, hasn't a pot to piss in, finds out he's dying. obviously went off the tracks for him but judging by his expression at the end, he wouldn't change it as it was a hell of a ride.

Well, if he worked for the government, it's actually relatively likely he had a life insurance policy. He'd also have known how terrible meth is. He then killed people. So yeah, I can completely fault him

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Last episode I thought I saw an estate planning book on the shelf in the cabin. Anyone have a screen cap? I am sure Walt did his financial planing due diligence before forcing the "irrevocable trust" option on Elliot and Gretchen. He is a genius mastermind. No half measures, remember?

 

[cstu]

He'd also have known how terrible meth is. He then killed people. So yeah, I can completely fault him

He helped out society by providing meth users with a high quality product.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

here it is

 

[SacramentoBob]

Am I the only one not disappointed that Hank died? He could have put family above his job and been alive and rich. In fact, Walt could have helped him catch the Nazis and Hank would have been a hero.

Completely out of character for him.

 

[Zow]

You fingerprint people need to let it go. CSI has given a false sense of the difficult of pulling a print.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Am I the only one not disappointed that Hank died? He could have put family above his job and been alive and rich. In fact, Walt could have helped him catch the Nazis and Hank would have been a hero.

Hank is Walt's mirror.

Just as Walt's pride was his downfall, Hank's pride (and his need to be the guy to "beat" Walt) was his. Yes, Hank could have brought what he knew to the DEA and stepped aside. It would have been the prudent thing to do. But in Hank's eyes, the only way to combat the sheer embarrassment of being deceived for over a year under his nose was to be the guy who brought Walt down.

Now, I think it takes a certain type of **** to find that karmically satisfying or something. In the same way that I don't get the people who want bad things to happen to Marie, but it's definitely Hank's tragic flaw in the scheme of the show.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

RIP Landry. Probably kicking field goals in heaven right now.

Picking heaven-lint off Lydia's robe, IMO.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Who would you rather bang, Marie or Skyler?

 

[Limp Ditka]

You fingerprint people need to let it go. CSI has given a false sense of the difficult of pulling a print.

Yet they've been doing it for over a century.

 

[UniAlias]

You fingerprint people need to let it go. CSI has given a false sense of the difficult of pulling a print.

I've never seen a single episode of CSI.. But Jesse lived at that compound for what, 8 months? Between the lab, cell he was kept in, and final clubhouse room I find it hard to believe they wouldn't find a print. I'm no expert though.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Who would you rather bang, Marie or Skyler?

I'll take Skyler, since we know from the pilot that she is all for taking it from behind. I think Marie would be a little uptight about sex. Skyler would be more freaky.

 

[Gr00vus]

Am I the only one not disappointed that Hank died? He could have put family above his job and been alive and rich. In fact, Walt could have helped him catch the Nazis and Hank would have been a hero.

There was definitely a pretty broad spectrum of people in terms of who deserved a nasty ending and who didn't. I'm not sure exactly where Hank falls in that spectrum but I think it's closer to the Holly end than the Tuco end. For Hank, part of me wonders if, in his perspective, dying might even have been preferable to living in a world where Walt got the better of him.

 

[Abraham]

Who would you rather bang, Marie or Skyler?

I'll take Skyler, since we know from the pilot that she is all for taking it from behind. I think Marie would be a little uptight about sex. Skyler would be more freaky.

Marie gave her husband a handy in the hospital bed.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Marie.

She towers over Michael J Fox in that show, btw.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

This might be nothing, but at the exact moment when Lydia stands up in the restaurant as if to flee from Walt, a runner passes across the street wearing the same color shirt as her, a color Todd just complimented. It's like it's her alter-ego running away, like she clearly wants to do. Most shows and this would be just coincidence.

 

[badmojo1006]

Grantland's tribute to all who died in BB

 

[Limp Ditka]

10.3 million viewers last night

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Am I the only one not disappointed that Hank died? He could have put family above his job and been alive and rich. In fact, Walt could have helped him catch the Nazis and Hank would have been a hero.

There was definitely a pretty broad spectrum of people in terms of who deserved a nasty ending and who didn't. I'm not sure exactly where Hank falls in that spectrum but I think it's closer to the Holly end than the Tuco end. For Hank, part of me wonders if, in his perspective, dying might even have been preferable to living in a world where Walt got the better of him.

Hank is more of the Aristotelian tragic hero. Basically a good guy with one character flaw that caused his downfall. Walt is similar for the reasons sccoby gave, but he combines that with sheer evil and malevolence. Walt is on the Tuco end, while Hank is the comparatively upstanding version.

 

[Zow]

You fingerprint people need to let it go. CSI has given a false sense of the difficult of pulling a print.

Yet they've been doing it for over a century.

Sure, they have. But two things.

1) The police rarely opt to just start randomly dusting for prints. Especially if they have their guy, since prints likely aren't necessary and could only be exculpatory. Usually, fingerprints are attempted to be lifted in cases where the suspect denies ownership or presence. In this case, whoever comes on the scene will likely not have reason to think someone got away. So, why the need to search for prints?

2) When police do search for prints, there are a variety of factors as to why they may not be able to get a good print. I spoke to a well-respected forensics guy one time about the odds of finding a print compared to CSI and he actually laughed at the idea and claimed in his many years of doing it he has never pulled a super clean print like you see on CSI.