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[Psychopav]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

They'll know Pinkman was involved but there's no way they can charge him. If he quits the business and becomes an upstanding citizen he'll end up a note in the DEA's records.

I agree.

If they go after him and find him, he'll just say it was their money that he was throwing out his car window. They were so pissed they caught him, enslaved him, and forced him to cook for them while chained up. There's more than enough evidence of that, and it explains where the money he was throwing out his window came from and why he didn't want it. It was drug money, and not his.

Maybe Marie will provide some context for them.

 

[dparker713]

You fingerprint people need to let it go. CSI has given a false sense of the difficult of pulling a print.

I've never seen a single episode of CSI.. But Jesse lived at that compound for what, 8 months? Between the lab, cell he was kept in, and final clubhouse room I find it hard to believe they wouldn't find a print. I'm no expert though.

And why are they dusting the lab, his cell or that room?

 

[Politician Spock]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

They'll know Pinkman was involved but there's no way they can charge him. If he quits the business and becomes an upstanding citizen he'll end up a note in the DEA's records.

I agree.

If they go after him and find him, he'll just say it was their money that he was throwing out his car window. They were so pissed they caught him, enslaved him, and forced him to cook for them while chained up. There's more than enough evidence of that, and it explains where the money he was throwing out his window came from and why he didn't want it. It was drug money, and not his.

Maybe Marie will provide some context for them.

Other than she knew Hank needed him to get to Walt, what context does she know?

 

[FlapJacks]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

finishing up, could = cleaning up...

I'm sure while each chemical process is running, he cleans equipment while he's waiting. If he was finishing up, then everything was pretty much clean

 

[Psychopav]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

They'll know Pinkman was involved but there's no way they can charge him. If he quits the business and becomes an upstanding citizen he'll end up a note in the DEA's records.

I agree.

If they go after him and find him, he'll just say it was their money that he was throwing out his car window. They were so pissed they caught him, enslaved him, and forced him to cook for them while chained up. There's more than enough evidence of that, and it explains where the money he was throwing out his window came from and why he didn't want it. It was drug money, and not his.

Maybe Marie will provide some context for them.

Other than she knew Hank needed him to get to Walt, what context does she know?

She knows he was cooperating.

OH...plus she probably kept that DEA mug so they could use lift his prints off of it.

 

[Politician Spock]

If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack.

They'll know Pinkman was involved but there's no way they can charge him. If he quits the business and becomes an upstanding citizen he'll end up a note in the DEA's records.

I agree.

If they go after him and find him, he'll just say it was their money that he was throwing out his car window. They were so pissed they caught him, enslaved him, and forced him to cook for them while chained up. There's more than enough evidence of that, and it explains where the money he was throwing out his window came from and why he didn't want it. It was drug money, and not his.

Maybe Marie will provide some context for them.

Other than she knew Hank needed him to get to Walt, what context does she know?

She knows he was cooperating.

OH...plus she probably kept that DEA mug so they could use lift his prints off of it.

And what crime would the knowledge that he was cooperating tie him to?

It's easy to make the argument that he was involved as a victim. There's evidence of his enslavement all over the Nazi camp.

 

[Zow]

You fingerprint people need to let it go. CSI has given a false sense of the difficult of pulling a print.

Yet they've been doing it for over a century.

Sure, they have. But two things.

1) The police rarely opt to just start randomly dusting for prints. Especially if they have their guy, since prints likely aren't necessary and could only be exculpatory. Usually, fingerprints are attempted to be lifted in cases where the suspect denies ownership or presence. In this case, whoever comes on the scene will likely not have reason to think someone got away. So, why the need to search for prints?

2) When police do search for prints, there are a variety of factors as to why they may not be able to get a good print. I spoke to a well-respected forensics guy one time about the odds of finding a print compared to CSI and he actually laughed at the idea and claimed in his many years of doing it he has never pulled a super clean print like you see on CSI.

Bump for this page for the fingerprint nuts.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

time to tap out of the thread when woz starts bumping his posts from less than a half hour ago.

 

[Zow]

time to tap out of the thread when woz starts bumping his posts from less than a half hour ago.

No need if the fingerprint posts didn't immediately continue.

 

[JZilla]

To all of you who are deeply concerned about what may have happened to Jesse -- seek help

 

[Sarnoff]

Do we really know if Jesse even has fingerprints? We've never seen them on screen.

 

[Zow]

Do we really know if Jesse even has fingerprints? We've never seen them on screen.

Maybe he's like the bad guy from Seven! Possible spin-off?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Has Jesse even really committed any crimes?

 

[JZilla]

I like to think Jesse changed his name and became a successful TV actor

 

[3C's]

One of the articles about the record ratings shows the power of Netflix.

"Breaking Bad premiered on Jan. 20, 2008, to a modest 1.41 million viewers. The show only cracked the 2 million mark on one occasion during the first four seasons, but critical acclaim and a streaming deal with Netflix saw more and more viewers get turned on to the drama."

I, like many, caught up using Netflix after having missed the first few seasons. No idea if I would have ever watched it had it not been streaming. Maybe I would have bought the DVDs, but the last show I did that for was the first season of 24 (actually it was a gift from wife).

 

[Jalapanose]

I couldn't really tell who was in the picture frame that Walt was handling at the Schwartz'....thoughts?

 

[SacramentoBob]

How do we know that Jesse didn't become a law grad from Hamline?

 

[mad sweeney]

One thing I havent seen commented on anywhere: Walt has just killed everyone in his family (literal, figurative) and Todd still looks out the window and starts his next sentence with respect, "Mr. White..." before getting choked out. Had me

Todd hadn't yet realized Walt was responsible. The gun was inside the trunk and not visible from the window, so Todd hadn't yet put it together that Walt brought it in.

I don't think so. I think Todd knew what happened, it's just that Todd knows Mr. White as Mr. White. Also, the only emotion we've ever seen from Todd is a schoolboy crush. Killing, of anyone, really isn't a thing to Todd. Todd probably had no issues to what Walt did, even in that moment, but it was totally an acceptable move in the "game." I think that was done solely to again relay to us just how far Todd is on the "bad" scale.

Well, when he cold bloodedly shot Andrea in the back of the head with physically tortured Jesse watching as a punishment, I remember thinking that I'm not sure how far in the bad scale he is. Hopefly they'll have him do something to help me make up my mind.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Now that I've re-watched the finale, I'm closer to the camp that thinks that it's nearly perfect. Personally, I would have preferred that they go into more depth on particular characters and just drop some of the others (Lydia, the Schwartzes, hell even Todd if necessary). But watching it now knowing that Gilligan was seriously determined to "resolve" every single remaining significant character, the whole thing clicks together really well. I still love the ricin part, and the scenes with Skyler and Jesse are great. Walt lucked out with regards to the Nazis -- by all rights he should have been killed unceremoniously -- but he's always been lucky with his adversaries so that's completely fine. I can even tolerate the laser pointers on Gretchen and Elliott now that I've talked myself into the idea that this is Heisenberg's last stand.

There's still a lot of highly improbable stuff here, but finales get more suspension of disbelief than usual, and I think they nailed it. The epic moments, like the wall between Walt and Skyler, the way Walt explores the Schwartzes home thinking about how this could have been his life, the nod between Walt and Jesse, and the last scenes with Flynn and Holly more than make up for the stretches. And I still think Jesse's ending was pitch-perfect.

 

[UniAlias]

time to tap out of the thread when woz starts bumping his posts from less than a half hour ago.

No need if the fingerprint posts didn't immediately continue.

Just a discussion, not a big deal. My uneducated assumption was that authorities would attempt to collect as much evidence as possible when they stumble upon a massive drug lab with nearly a dozen dead bodies. According to LawyerWoz that's not the case. Guess I learned something new.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

You fingerprint people need to let it go. CSI has given a false sense of the difficult of pulling a print.

Best post of the thread today.

 

[mad sweeney]

The suspense/hilarity of Cabin Walt wandering around Elliott and Gretchen's house isn't getting enough love.

I loved when he sat up in the shadows.

Meh. Blue Tobias did it better.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

You fingerprint people need to let it go. CSI has given a false sense of the difficult of pulling a print.

I've never seen a single episode of CSI.. But Jesse lived at that compound for what, 8 months? Between the lab, cell he was kept in, and final clubhouse room I find it hard to believe they wouldn't find a print. I'm no expert though.

And why are they dusting the lab, his cell or that room?

They're covering the entire compound.

Like this:

http://youtu.be/16jL8_TT8A0

 

[shadyridr]

For such a huge mansion its awfully easy to break into

 

[bagger]

To all of you who are deeply concerned about what may have happened to Jesse -- seek help

pretty sure he got popped by a red light speed camera and now has to go to driving school.

 

[mad sweeney]

One of the articles about the record ratings shows the power of Netflix.

"Breaking Bad premiered on Jan. 20, 2008, to a modest 1.41 million viewers. The show only cracked the 2 million mark on one occasion during the first four seasons, but critical acclaim and a streaming deal with Netflix saw more and more viewers get turned on to the drama."

I, like many, caught up using Netflix after having missed the first few seasons. No idea if I would have ever watched it had it not been streaming. Maybe I would have bought the DVDs, but the last show I did that for was the first season of 24 (actually it was a gift from wife).

What boggles me is that last night's record viewership is still below the highly inconsistent and maddeningly stupid at times Walking Dead.

 

[Sarnoff]

One of the articles about the record ratings shows the power of Netflix.

"Breaking Bad premiered on Jan. 20, 2008, to a modest 1.41 million viewers. The show only cracked the 2 million mark on one occasion during the first four seasons, but critical acclaim and a streaming deal with Netflix saw more and more viewers get turned on to the drama."

I, like many, caught up using Netflix after having missed the first few seasons. No idea if I would have ever watched it had it not been streaming. Maybe I would have bought the DVDs, but the last show I did that for was the first season of 24 (actually it was a gift from wife).

What boggles me is that last night's record viewership is still below the highly inconsistent and maddeningly stupid at times Walking Dead.

Nothing beats Duck Dynasty.

 

[3C's]

One of the articles about the record ratings shows the power of Netflix.

"Breaking Bad premiered on Jan. 20, 2008, to a modest 1.41 million viewers. The show only cracked the 2 million mark on one occasion during the first four seasons, but critical acclaim and a streaming deal with Netflix saw more and more viewers get turned on to the drama."

I, like many, caught up using Netflix after having missed the first few seasons. No idea if I would have ever watched it had it not been streaming. Maybe I would have bought the DVDs, but the last show I did that for was the first season of 24 (actually it was a gift from wife).

What boggles me is that last night's record viewership is still below the highly inconsistent and maddeningly stupid at times Walking Dead.

Just posted the same thing on another board. I like WD but it's nowhere near BB. Maybe on SOA level,

 

[None_More_Black]

Who would you rather bang, Marie or Skyler?

It is interesting that the actress who plays Marie is only 36. Skyer is 45. Marie is hotter but I thought she was older. She is two years younger then me. Depressing when I think "older women" on tv are actually younger then I am.

 

[badmojo1006]

Who would you rather bang, Marie or Skyler?

It is interesting that the actress who plays Marie is only 36. Skyer is 45. Marie is hotter but I thought she was older. She is two years younger then me. Depressing when I think "older women" on tv are actually younger then I am.

I just never got the Marie love. All the makeup in the world can't hide that mustache

 

[Raider Nation]

Well said, Zow.

What are.... things that have never been written before?

 

[Raider Nation]

Skipped pages 304-310. Did I miss anything good?

 

[Major]

Skipped pages 304-310. Did I miss anything good?

I dunno RN, the thread lost me this season. 2009-12, boy were those great years here

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

Now that I've re-watched the finale, I'm closer to the camp that thinks that it's nearly perfect. Personally, I would have preferred that they go into more depth on particular characters and just drop some of the others (Lydia, the Schwartzes, hell even Todd if necessary). But watching it now knowing that Gilligan was seriously determined to "resolve" every single remaining significant character, the whole thing clicks together really well. I still love the ricin part, and the scenes with Skyler and Jesse are great. Walt lucked out with regards to the Nazis -- by all rights he should have been killed unceremoniously -- but he's always been lucky with his adversaries so that's completely fine. I can even tolerate the laser pointers on Gretchen and Elliott now that I've talked myself into the idea that this is Heisenberg's last stand.

There's still a lot of highly improbable stuff here, but finales get more suspension of disbelief than usual, and I think they nailed it. The epic moments, like the wall between Walt and Skyler, the way Walt explores the Schwartzes home thinking about how this could have been his life, the nod between Walt and Jesse, and the last scenes with Flynn and Holly more than make up for the stretches. And I still think Jesse's ending was pitch-perfect.

To all of you who are deeply concerned about what may have happened to Jesse -- seek help

A great end to a great show.

Should satisfy 90% of the audience and the 10% of audience who aren't satisfied would complain if I gave them $1 million in gold about it being too heavy.

While it didn't take many artistic risks in the final episode, it brings full closure to a great TV show.

I do hope I get to see a better TV show from start to finish, but I doubt I will.

Lost started better, but couldn't sustain the early premise. Dexter had one brilliant series (Series 4), Game of Thrones has promise, but will fall on its face at some stage when actors get too old for their roles or the author doesn't finish the story etc.

I tried to start Soprano's and The Wire, but they are very slow in the first season. Just need to persevere I guess.

 

[Apple Juice]

Would Jesse have shot Walt if he didn't notice Walt was already fatally wounded?

 

[identikit]

Would Jesse have shot Walt if he didn't notice Walt was already fatally wounded?

I think so.

 

[Christo]

:IBTL:

 

[Peyton Marino]

IIRC The Wire saw quite a few murders solved with fingerprints. Give it up, Woz.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I tried to start Soprano's and The Wire, but they are very slow in the first season. Just need to persevere I guess.

I don't watch much television so my opinion should probably be taken with a huge grain of salt, but Breaking Bad, The Wire, and The Sopranos are 1-2-3 for me, and there's no 4. You're completely right that BB moves along much faster and crisper than the other two. BB is much more about just telling a compelling story that happens to have some literary merits, whereas the other two are more overtly literary.

This is unpopular to say in a BB thread, but I still think Tony Soprano is the most compelling character out of these three shows, even if I think BB is the better franchise. And I haven't seen anything like The Wire in terms of social commentary, even if it went over the top (way over the top) toward the end. You owe it to yourself to stick with these. If you end up not liking them, well, I hate Charles Dickens and Toni Morrison. We're all allowed to have some widely-acclaimed bodies of work that don't click with us.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Jesse is in jail awaiting trial right now IMO.

 

[Limp Ditka]

To all of you who are deeply concerned about what may have happened to Jesse -- seek help

Silly us

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/30/showbiz/tv/cranston-paul-breaking-bad-finale/index.html?hpt=hp_bn9

It's good that Jesse was put through that so he did some time, but I believe that he deserved to get away from all of it and just leave. You don't really know where he goes ... " Paul has a few ideas, though, about what happened to Jesse. "In my mind, he gets the hell out of Dodge," he says. "He's like, 'Oh my god.' I think he probably goes and says bye to Brock, if he can, or at least just sees him from a distance and then he leaves. Maybe Alaska, maybe New Zealand. Becomes a bush pilot. It's all part of the story."

 

[cstu]

For the Walt Jr. fans

 

[Chase Stuart]

Skipped pages 304-310. Did I miss anything good?

No, but just watch this and you'll be much more satisfied:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3dpghfRBHE&noredirect=1

 

[SlimShady]

Jesse is in jail awaiting trial right now IMO.

probably od'd next to Janes grave

 

[SlimShady]

Would Jesse have shot Walt if he didn't notice Walt was already fatally wounded?

I think so.

no, jesse if you recall, not the murdering type, and conflicted about this man that just saved his life for the 2nd time. No way he pulls, regardless of wound. What he did want, and get, was a true answer for the first time, from walt, and at that moment he lets walt know, btich you're on your own now.

 

[Major]

Would Jesse have shot Walt if he didn't notice Walt was already fatally wounded?

I think so.

no, jesse if you recall, not the murdering type, and conflicted about this man that just saved his life for the 2nd time. No way he pulls, regardless of wound. What he did want, and get, was a true answer for the first time, from walt, and at that moment he lets walt know, btich you're on your own now.

lol...he only murked Gale and Landry. Speaking of Gale, I really wanted to see his karaoke video playing with the closing credits

 

[Raider Nation]

Has "johnjohn" been wiped off the face of the earth?

 

[Abraham]

Rn - what was the title of that thread originally?

I love this board, but when they had a staff purge back in May the moderation went downhill fast.

 

[Raider Nation]

Jesse is in jail awaiting trial right now IMO.

probably od'd next to Janes grave

Speaking of Jane, Holy CRAP is Krysten Ritter gorgeous. Saw her on Talking Bad last night.

I had no idea. That hairstyle they gave her on the show (think Mia from Pulp Fiction) didn't do her any favors.

 

[Raider Nation]

Rn - what was the title of that thread originally?

"Walt dies; Jesse escapes"