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[T Bell]

to beat a dead horse

can you imagine Paul Allen being broke and sick and Bill Gates saying "hey we can get you a job in our accounting dept "

or Robert plant hiring Jimmy page as a roadie because Jimmy needs the money

it's just seems like a big demotion to go from partner to low level employee

Paul Allen helped grow Microsoft.

When Walt left Gray Matter, it was a three-person company worth about $15,000 total, and the three principles may not have even made minimum wage there.

If Walt had rejoined Gray Matter in season two at Elliot's urging, he would have been part of a multi-billion-dollar company with hundreds or thousands of employees, and he would have gotten full health benefits and a real salary.

Trying to paint Gretchen and Elliot as the bad guys for their generous offer to Walt is insane.

This was all about Walt's pride and ego, which is frankly what the entire series was about.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Technically, "Angel" didn't have a dream season. They concluded one season by having the main characters (except for Angel) have their memories of the events removed. However, the following season everyone eventually found out what Angel had done. The events of the season still happened, though.

St. Elsewhere's ending to this day still p****s me off. That was one of my favorite shows of all time and the ending was the strongest example I can think of how not to conclude a series. Truly awful.

Oh, I see you haven't watched Dexter before.

One of my favorite shows. I avoided the thread for most of this season because all of you there hated the season a lot more than I did.

I know, just giving you a hard time. Because that season was turrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible.

 

[packersfan]

to beat a dead horse

can you imagine Paul Allen being broke and sick and Bill Gates saying "hey we can get you a job in our accounting dept "

or Robert plant hiring Jimmy page as a roadie because Jimmy needs the money

it's just seems like a big demotion to go from partner to low level employee

Paul Allen helped grow Microsoft.

When Walt left Gray Matter, it was a three-person company worth about $15,000 total, and the three principles may not have even made minimum wage there.

If Walt had rejoined Gray Matter in season two at Elliot's urging, he would have been part of a multi-billion-dollar company with hundreds or thousands of employees, and he would have gotten full health benefits and a real salary.

Trying to paint Gretchen and Elliot as the bad guys for their generous offer to Walt is insane.

This was all about Walt's pride and ego, which is frankly what the entire series was about.

Yup, but Elliot still had freakishly big ears.

 

[Ghost Rider]

It was Season 1 when Elliot made the offer (Episode 5: Gray Matter), but I agree with all that has been said. Elliot was basically offering Walt a chance back in, and he would have been set, but yeah, Walt's pride and ego would not allow it. Plus, he was not in that deep yet with the cooking to where he couldn't have gotten out of it (this was before even Tuco).

 

[FlapJacks]

to beat a dead horse

can you imagine Paul Allen being broke and sick and Bill Gates saying "hey we can get you a job in our accounting dept "

or Robert plant hiring Jimmy page as a roadie because Jimmy needs the money

it's just seems like a big demotion to go from partner to low level employee

Paul Allen helped grow Microsoft.

When Walt left Gray Matter, it was a three-person company worth about $15,000 total, and the three principles may not have even made minimum wage there.

If Walt had rejoined Gray Matter in season two at Elliot's urging, he would have been part of a multi-billion-dollar company with hundreds or thousands of employees, and he would have gotten full health benefits and a real salary.

Trying to paint Gretchen and Elliot as the bad guys for their generous offer to Walt is insane.

This was all about Walt's pride and ego, which is frankly what the entire series was about.

Not saying they're bad guys, as Walt did accept the buyout. Knowing what a brilliant chemist/scientist/prob;em solver he is, I'm inclined to believe that without Walt, Gray matters might likely not exist and G&E are working mediocre careers. I'm inclined to believe it and know that Walt is emphatically convinced.

The analogy for Walt would be like Jimmy Page accepting a job as Robert Plant's roadie for a real salary and healt benefits knowing that without his riffs, Robert Plant might have wound up selling insurance.

Not saying they are bad, but given the circumstances, it seems, especially to Walt, like a huge step down, and kind of an awkward dynamic.

 

[mad sweeney]

Seriously. Even mere talk or longing for it to have been a dream is a disservice to the show and insult to its creators.

It's the opposite of this. When people write "serious" literature or produce a "serious" film, they expect it to be discussed, picked apart, and analyzed in ways that might never have occurred to them at the time of production. The fact that people approach a television show in that way is the greatest compliment anybody can bestow on the writers and directors.

People who uncritically take everything at face value and rationalize every little inconsistency or implausibility are the ones who are insulting the creators. That sort of attitude is fine for mindless stuff like TWD, but it's not appropriate for this kind of program. Gilligan and his colleagues deserve to be held to a higher standard than that.

Edit: To clarify, there's nothing wrong with just watching the show and enjoying the story and leaving it at that. Shakespeare can be enjoyed that way too. But nobody ever says that it's we're insulting the Bard when we point out that Romeo and Juliet isn't up the standards of King Lear or Othello, or when we talk about multiple ways to explain Hamlet's character.

Discussing, analyzing and picking apart I thoroughly enjoy. Saying you think it was a dream or wishing that it was a dream because it would make the finale more satisfying to you is not same thing.

Of course it is. That's what we mean by "analyzing and picking apart."

Again, for the record, Gilligan clearly did not intend the finale as a dream sequence. The thing with Jesse absolutely nips this in the bud. Moreover, there's no serious precedent for dream sequences anywhere in the franchise. The closest thing I can think of is when Jesse hallucinates and sees the two Jehovah's Witnesses as biker enforcers, but that's not really the same thing and it occurs all the way back in season one. A dream-sequence finale would be wildly out of place for franchise that plays things straight in every other episode.

The only things this interpretation has going for it, that I can tell, is that it provides a bleaker ending, and it resolves all of the events in the finale that pushed a lot of people past the point of suspension of disbelief. It's not the "right" interpretation IMO and I don't think it's even a viable interpretation, but it's a fun idea to bat around.

Walt dies alone, Skylar is still under indictment, Marie is alone, Hank is dead, Walt Jr has no father and probably no mother soon, Holly will be essentially parentless, Jesse has no money no resources and no legitimate marketable skills, Gretchen and Elliot may or may not give the money to Walt Jr, and worst of all Saul is probably managing a Cinnabun, Sure, Walt gets to destroy his blue and kill some enemies but this is hardly a rosy ending for anyone. Everyone's lives that Walt touched are damaged or destroyed.

Walt gave Skyler the location of Hank's body as a bargaining chip with the DEA, so she will probably avoid prison.And Gretchen and Elliot will DEFINITELY give Flynn the money.

I don't get the reasoning behind Skyler avoiding prison by knowing where Hank is buried. First off, if she knows where he is, then her family duty sense will probably make her want to give Marie that closure. Second, Hank and Homie are dead because of a criminal empire that she was an active participant in. A portion of his death falls on he shoulders. Third, they don't have Walt or the Nazis to pin anything on. They're gonna want someone to go down.I just don't see it being a get out of jail free card.

What evidence do they have against Skylar?

I'm not sure what actual evidence they have against her, but there's plenty of circumstantial evidence to start with, beginning with being co-owner and manager of the carwash that she knew full well they couldn't have actually afforded and was the laundering source for Walt's money. Plus Marie knows that she knew about and participated in the illegal activity. Hard to think Marie would stay loyal to Skyler when Sky was holding the location of Marie's dead husband hostage in a deal.

 

[mad sweeney]

Why is it that in almost every TV series, a vocal minority always expects that at some point, we'll hear that the whole thing was a dream? Was there some TV show that did this in the '60s or something and has scarred viewers forever?

Seiously? Google Dallas dream season.

Roseanne too

Also Newhart.

Yeah, but that was hilarious.

 

[Rove!]

Seriously. Even mere talk or longing for it to have been a dream is a disservice to the show and insult to its creators.

It's the opposite of this. When people write "serious" literature or produce a "serious" film, they expect it to be discussed, picked apart, and analyzed in ways that might never have occurred to them at the time of production. The fact that people approach a television show in that way is the greatest compliment anybody can bestow on the writers and directors.

People who uncritically take everything at face value and rationalize every little inconsistency or implausibility are the ones who are insulting the creators. That sort of attitude is fine for mindless stuff like TWD, but it's not appropriate for this kind of program. Gilligan and his colleagues deserve to be held to a higher standard than that.

Edit: To clarify, there's nothing wrong with just watching the show and enjoying the story and leaving it at that. Shakespeare can be enjoyed that way too. But nobody ever says that it's we're insulting the Bard when we point out that Romeo and Juliet isn't up the standards of King Lear or Othello, or when we talk about multiple ways to explain Hamlet's character.

Discussing, analyzing and picking apart I thoroughly enjoy. Saying you think it was a dream or wishing that it was a dream because it would make the finale more satisfying to you is not same thing.

Of course it is. That's what we mean by "analyzing and picking apart."

Again, for the record, Gilligan clearly did not intend the finale as a dream sequence. The thing with Jesse absolutely nips this in the bud. Moreover, there's no serious precedent for dream sequences anywhere in the franchise. The closest thing I can think of is when Jesse hallucinates and sees the two Jehovah's Witnesses as biker enforcers, but that's not really the same thing and it occurs all the way back in season one. A dream-sequence finale would be wildly out of place for franchise that plays things straight in every other episode.

The only things this interpretation has going for it, that I can tell, is that it provides a bleaker ending, and it resolves all of the events in the finale that pushed a lot of people past the point of suspension of disbelief. It's not the "right" interpretation IMO and I don't think it's even a viable interpretation, but it's a fun idea to bat around.

Walt dies alone, Skylar is still under indictment, Marie is alone, Hank is dead, Walt Jr has no father and probably no mother soon, Holly will be essentially parentless, Jesse has no money no resources and no legitimate marketable skills, Gretchen and Elliot may or may not give the money to Walt Jr, and worst of all Saul is probably managing a Cinnabun, Sure, Walt gets to destroy his blue and kill some enemies but this is hardly a rosy ending for anyone. Everyone's lives that Walt touched are damaged or destroyed.

Walt gave Skyler the location of Hank's body as a bargaining chip with the DEA, so she will probably avoid prison.And Gretchen and Elliot will DEFINITELY give Flynn the money.

I don't get the reasoning behind Skyler avoiding prison by knowing where Hank is buried. First off, if she knows where he is, then her family duty sense will probably make her want to give Marie that closure. Second, Hank and Homie are dead because of a criminal empire that she was an active participant in. A portion of his death falls on he shoulders. Third, they don't have Walt or the Nazis to pin anything on. They're gonna want someone to go down.I just don't see it being a get out of jail free card.

What evidence do they have against Skylar?

I'm not sure what actual evidence they have against her, but there's plenty of circumstantial evidence to start with, beginning with being co-owner and manager of the carwash that she knew full well they couldn't have actually afforded and was the laundering source for Walt's money. Plus Marie knows that she knew about and participated in the illegal activity. Hard to think Marie would stay loyal to Skyler when Sky was holding the location of Marie's dead husband hostage in a deal.

hard to say how this plays out. Working in Sky's favor is that getting a conviction might be a challenge and the govt might opto to go with Walt's narrative to save face on potentially losing that case in court..

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Technically, "Angel" didn't have a dream season. They concluded one season by having the main characters (except for Angel) have their memories of the events removed. However, the following season everyone eventually found out what Angel had done. The events of the season still happened, though.

St. Elsewhere's ending to this day still p****s me off. That was one of my favorite shows of all time and the ending was the strongest example I can think of how not to conclude a series. Truly awful.

It's what happens when writers try to get too creative. Which is why BB did it perfect. Everyone says that it seemed to easy. But seriously, if they would have tried some crazy weird ending, I think it would have killed the show.

I agree. The writers on St. Elsewhere got too cute and it blew up in their faces. I think you could make a similar argument for how David Chase ended The Sopranos. He tried to be cute instead of just delivering an actual ending.I think the best way to do it is have an ending. Lost took a lot of heat for its finale (I loved it) but whether you liked it or not at least they crafted an ending to their show. The story began, had a middle and an ending. Do that and I'll respect what you did, even if I may not completely enjoy it. Gilligan seems to have understood that. He delivered an ending. Like it or not, it was an ending. For me, that's how it should be done.

Still waiting for my Hurley and Ben running the island spinoff.

What was married with children dream, all the Jefferson seasons? I never watched st elsewhere.

 

[cstu]

to beat a dead horse

can you imagine Paul Allen being broke and sick and Bill Gates saying "hey we can get you a job in our accounting dept "

or Robert plant hiring Jimmy page as a roadie because Jimmy needs the money

it's just seems like a big demotion to go from partner to low level employee

 

[T Bell]

to beat a dead horse

can you imagine Paul Allen being broke and sick and Bill Gates saying "hey we can get you a job in our accounting dept "

or Robert plant hiring Jimmy page as a roadie because Jimmy needs the money

it's just seems like a big demotion to go from partner to low level employee

Paul Allen helped grow Microsoft.

When Walt left Gray Matter, it was a three-person company worth about $15,000 total, and the three principles may not have even made minimum wage there.

If Walt had rejoined Gray Matter in season two at Elliot's urging, he would have been part of a multi-billion-dollar company with hundreds or thousands of employees, and he would have gotten full health benefits and a real salary.

Trying to paint Gretchen and Elliot as the bad guys for their generous offer to Walt is insane.

This was all about Walt's pride and ego, which is frankly what the entire series was about.

Not saying they're bad guys, as Walt did accept the buyout. Knowing what a brilliant chemist/scientist/prob;em solver he is, I'm inclined to believe that without Walt, Gray matters might likely not exist and G&E are working mediocre careers. I'm inclined to believe it and know that Walt is emphatically convinced.

The analogy for Walt would be like Jimmy Page accepting a job as Robert Plant's roadie for a real salary and healt benefits knowing that without his riffs, Robert Plant might have wound up selling insurance.

Not saying they are bad, but given the circumstances, it seems, especially to Walt, like a huge step down, and kind of an awkward dynamic.

That's being awfully presumptuous. First of all, to base anything upon Walt's perception of his own talents and importance is shaky, because he's narcissistic as hell and not prone to adequately recognizing others' talents.

Second, Grey Matter was a high tech firm and Walt's contributions were decades before. Something was pushing that firm forward in the ensuing years. Gretchen and Elliot clearly did a very good job developing that company.

Walt's no doubt a very smart, talented guy, but you have to remind yourself how skewed his world view is when it comes to his grandiose view of himself in the world.

 

[Gr00vus]

Why is it that in almost every TV series, a vocal minority always expects that at some point, we'll hear that the whole thing was a dream? Was there some TV show that did this in the '60s or something and has scarred viewers forever?

Seiously? Google Dallas dream season.

Roseanne too

Also Newhart.

Yeah, but that was hilarious.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

to beat a dead horse

can you imagine Paul Allen being broke and sick and Bill Gates saying "hey we can get you a job in our accounting dept "

or Robert plant hiring Jimmy page as a roadie because Jimmy needs the money

it's just seems like a big demotion to go from partner to low level employee

Paul Allen helped grow Microsoft.

When Walt left Gray Matter, it was a three-person company worth about $15,000 total, and the three principles may not have even made minimum wage there.

If Walt had rejoined Gray Matter in season two at Elliot's urging, he would have been part of a multi-billion-dollar company with hundreds or thousands of employees, and he would have gotten full health benefits and a real salary.

Trying to paint Gretchen and Elliot as the bad guys for their generous offer to Walt is insane.

This was all about Walt's pride and ego, which is frankly what the entire series was about.

Not saying they're bad guys, as Walt did accept the buyout. Knowing what a brilliant chemist/scientist/prob;em solver he is, I'm inclined to believe that without Walt, Gray matters might likely not exist and G&E are working mediocre careers. I'm inclined to believe it and know that Walt is emphatically convinced.

The analogy for Walt would be like Jimmy Page accepting a job as Robert Plant's roadie for a real salary and healt benefits knowing that without his riffs, Robert Plant might have wound up selling insurance.

Not saying they are bad, but given the circumstances, it seems, especially to Walt, like a huge step down, and kind of an awkward dynamic.

Replace Jimmy Page with "some black guys" and that kind of is what happened.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Why is it that in almost every TV series, a vocal minority always expects that at some point, we'll hear that the whole thing was a dream? Was there some TV show that did this in the '60s or something and has scarred viewers forever?

Seiously? Google Dallas dream season.

Roseanne too

Also Newhart.

Yeah, but that was hilarious.

A comedy obviously has way more leeway when it comes to these things.

 

[dparker713]

to beat a dead horse

can you imagine Paul Allen being broke and sick and Bill Gates saying "hey we can get you a job in our accounting dept "

or Robert plant hiring Jimmy page as a roadie because Jimmy needs the money

it's just seems like a big demotion to go from partner to low level employee

Paul Allen helped grow Microsoft.

When Walt left Gray Matter, it was a three-person company worth about $15,000 total, and the three principles may not have even made minimum wage there.

If Walt had rejoined Gray Matter in season two at Elliot's urging, he would have been part of a multi-billion-dollar company with hundreds or thousands of employees, and he would have gotten full health benefits and a real salary.

Trying to paint Gretchen and Elliot as the bad guys for their generous offer to Walt is insane.

It was both a horrible timing and delivery of the offer. Rather than directly talking to Walt, Elliot attempted to manipulate him. Just as Walt manipulated Jesse countless times. But Elliot wasn't nearly as good at it as Walt. Plus, they were not acting in a fiduciary capacity towards their stockholders and were essentially committing insurance fraud. So, there's that.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Why is it that in almost every TV series, a vocal minority always expects that at some point, we'll hear that the whole thing was a dream? Was there some TV show that did this in the '60s or something and has scarred viewers forever?

Seiously? Google Dallas dream season.

Roseanne too

Also Newhart.

Yeah, but that was hilarious.

A comedy obviously has way more leeway when it comes to these things.

I also believe they were taking a shot at shows who use the "It was all a dream" way out.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Anthony Hopkins' fan letter to 'Breaking Bad' will warm your heartIt’s nice to finally learn what Bryan Cranston keeps in a frame above his mantelpiece. It’s a crisply printed copy of his new email from Anthony Hopkins. It has to be: this kind of hero worship from a legendary actor does not happen many times in a lifetime.

Hopkins crammed all five seasons of Breaking Bad into a two-week marathon, and was so stunned by Cranston’s performance - and the show as a whole - that he felt compelled to write him a charmingly effusive email in which he calls him a ‘great, great actor’.

Highlights include possibly the biggest compliment an actor could get:

Your performance as Walter White was the best acting I have seen
—
ever.
Oh, and a pretty accurate description of Breaking Bad:

From what started as a black comedy, descended into a labyrinth of blood, destruction and hell. It was like a great Jacobean, Shakespearian or Greek Tragedy.
Here’s the full letter:

Dear Mister Cranston.

I wanted to write you this email — so I am contacting you through Jeremy Barber — I take it we are both represented by UTA . Great agency.

I’ve just finished a marathon of watching “BREAKING BAD” — from episode one of the First Season — to the last eight episodes of the Sixth Season. (I downloaded the last season on AMAZON) A total of two weeks (addictive) viewing.

I have never watched anything like it. Brilliant!

Your performance as Walter White was the best acting I have seen — ever. I know there is so much smoke blowing and sickening bull#### in this business, and I’ve sort of lost belief in anything really.

But this work of yours is spectacular — absolutely stunning. What is extraordinary, is the sheer power of everyone in the entire production. What was it? Five or six years in the making? How the producers (yourself being one of them), the writers, directors, cinematographers…. every department —casting etc. managed to keep the discipline and control from beginning to the end is (that over used word) awesome.

From what started as a black comedy, descended into a labyrinth of blood, destruction and hell. It was like a great Jacobean, Shakespearian or Greek Tragedy.

If you ever get a chance to — would you pass on my admiration to everyone —Anna Gunn, Dean Norris, Aaron Paul, Betsy Brandt, R.J. Mitte, Bob Odenkirk, Jonathan Banks, Steven Michael Quezada — everyone — everyone gave master classes of performance … The list is endless.

Thank you. That kind of work/artistry is rare, and when, once in a while, it occurs, as in this epic work, it restores confidence.

You and all the cast are the best actors I’ve ever seen. That may sound like a good lung full of smoke blowing. But it is not. It’s almost midnight out here in Malibu, and I felt compelled to write this email.

Congratulations and my deepest respect. You are truly a great, great actor.

Best regards

Tony Hopkins.

God, what would you write back to that? ‘Dear Tony, thanks for your email…’? It’s nice that Oscar-winning actors can be big ol’ fangirls, too. Heartwarming stuff, eh?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I guess he's getting senile in is old age.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

that email sounds a lot like the earlier one he sent. I think Hannibal Lector is up to something.

 

[Rove!]

that email sounds a lot like the earlier one he sent. I think Hannibal Lector is up to something.

he's going to kill and eat Flynn with a side of pancakes?

 

[T Bell]

that email sounds a lot like the earlier one he sent. I think Hannibal Lector is up to something.

he's going to kill and eat Flynn with a side of pancakes?

Yes, and he can use the crutches as toothpicks. Genius!

 

[Rohn Jambo]

that email sounds a lot like the earlier one he sent. I think Hannibal Lector is up to something.

Setting up for a part on cable, because that is where all the best acting talents go?

 

[shadyridr]

that email sounds a lot like the earlier one he sent. I think Hannibal Lector is up to something.

did hanibal lector actually commit any crimes?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

that email sounds a lot like the earlier one he sent. I think Hannibal Lector is up to something.

did hanibal lector actually commit any crimes?

He was just hungry. You can't deny a guy basic nourishment.

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

Was watching A Knight's Tale last night and realized that the hot girl that makes his armor is Lydia. I always thought she was so hot....

 

[badmojo1006]

I have avoided this thread for the past week and a half, figuring it would be

But, it looks like "Better call Saul" will have Cranston and Paul cameos

 

[Rove!]

I have avoided this thread for the past week and a half, figuring it would be

But, it looks like "Better call Saul" will have Cranston and Paul cameos

I'm not sure how they'll work WW into the story....

Maybe we'll see Mike, Fring and Victor too...

 

[Ghost Rider]

I remember Jesse telling Walt (before Walt's first meeting with Saul) that Saul had gotten Emilio off twice after the cops had him dead to rights, so I could see that being the focus of an episode or two at some point, with Jesse coming into play (since Jesse was working with Emilio prior to Walt's 50 birthday/the pilot).

 

[Premier]

I bet they do an episode where Jesse gets busted for the Chili P. Can't wait.

 

[Major]

i see this thread routinely bumped....what the hell are you guys talking about? I guess I could read the previous posts but that sounds like a lotta work.

I'm in the camp that says the finale kind of sucked. For such an epic series, the finale didn't even come close to something like The Wire or SFU.

 

[shuke]

Anyone worried that Better Call Saul is going to suck? Saul was great comedic relief in a show that was a constant roller coaster of emotions. I can't imagine entire episodes centered around him.

 

[Premier]

Anyone worried that Better Call Saul is going to suck? Saul was great comedic relief in a show that was a constant roller coaster of emotions. I can't imagine entire episodes centered around him.

Nah. In fact if they wire it around the antics of people like mike or gus and show more of their backstory it should be amazing. And BB always had really interesting side characters. That universe just spawned tons of them. I can't wait to see it.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Anyone worried that Better Call Saul is going to suck? Saul was great comedic relief in a show that was a constant roller coaster of emotions. I can't imagine entire episodes centered around him.

yeah, apparently there's more than a few people who share that concern.

I think he can still be comic relief but have more serious clients and cases to play off of.

 

[shuke]

Anyone worried that Better Call Saul is going to suck? Saul was great comedic relief in a show that was a constant roller coaster of emotions. I can't imagine entire episodes centered around him.

Nah. In fact if they wire it around the antics of people like mike or gus and show more of their backstory it should be amazing. And BB always had really interesting side characters. That universe just spawned tons of them. I can't wait to see it.

Oh, so the stories will be more centered around the people that use Saul's services? That would be better.

 

[Premier]

Anyone worried that Better Call Saul is going to suck? Saul was great comedic relief in a show that was a constant roller coaster of emotions. I can't imagine entire episodes centered around him.

Nah. In fact if they wire it around the antics of people like mike or gus and show more of their backstory it should be amazing. And BB always had really interesting side characters. That universe just spawned tons of them. I can't wait to see it.

Oh, so the stories will be more centered around the people that use Saul's services? That would be better.

I have no idea. That's just what I'm assuming. People get themselves into hot water, and then call Saul. I could see where they do something with a different set of characters each season that commit some kind of crime and then loop Saul in to save the day.

 

[General Malaise]

Just learned the lead guy was the dad from Malcom in the Middle. How about that!

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Anyone worried that Better Call Saul is going to suck? Saul was great comedic relief in a show that was a constant roller coaster of emotions. I can't imagine entire episodes centered around him.

I figure it has a better chance of not sucking than any new average tv show.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

It could be like law and order, except with Saul and his guys. New cases every week, same legal and investigation team. Plus some overarching thread/client/circumstance going on throughout the season.

 

[T Bell]

Anyone worried that Better Call Saul is going to suck? Saul was great comedic relief in a show that was a constant roller coaster of emotions. I can't imagine entire episodes centered around him.

I'm not enthusiastic, as much as I love Saul.

 

[bentley]

i see this thread routinely bumped....what the hell are you guys talking about? I guess I could read the previous posts but that sounds like a lotta work.

I'm in the camp that says the finale kind of sucked. For such an epic series, the finale didn't even come close to something like The Wire or SFU.

For the last year Vince Gilligan has been saying that the finale would wrap everything up. What the #### else were you people thinking? Walt's dead and everyone that was close to him has had their lives fundamentally changed for the worse. What else were they supposed to do?

 

[mad sweeney]

Anyone worried that Better Call Saul is going to suck? Saul was great comedic relief in a show that was a constant roller coaster of emotions. I can't imagine entire episodes centered around him.

I'm not enthusiastic, as much as I love Saul.

Could be a more serious Saul and see how he became a bit of a scumbag lawyer from disillusionment. Sort of a reverse Trapper John, M.D.

 

[TheIronSheik]

i see this thread routinely bumped....what the hell are you guys talking about? I guess I could read the previous posts but that sounds like a lotta work.

I'm in the camp that says the finale kind of sucked. For such an epic series, the finale didn't even come close to something like The Wire or SFU.

For the last year Vince Gilligan has been saying that the finale would wrap everything up. What the #### else were you people thinking? Walt's dead and everyone that was close to him has had their lives fundamentally changed for the worse. What else were they supposed to do?

I would have liked to had closure about Jessie's younger brother.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Saul show is gonna rock. So many thugs they can wrap episodes and parts of whole seasons around. Saul's wait room was filled with all kinds of folks, won't be Breaking Bad intense but I'm sure it will be a major hit.

 

[T Bell]

i see this thread routinely bumped....what the hell are you guys talking about? I guess I could read the previous posts but that sounds like a lotta work.

I'm in the camp that says the finale kind of sucked. For such an epic series, the finale didn't even come close to something like The Wire or SFU.

For the last year Vince Gilligan has been saying that the finale would wrap everything up. What the #### else were you people thinking? Walt's dead and everyone that was close to him has had their lives fundamentally changed for the worse. What else were they supposed to do?

I would have liked to had closure about Jessie's younger brother.

He just bought out Grey Matter and is using its technology to redefine the porn industry.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Anyone worried that Better Call Saul is going to suck? Saul was great comedic relief in a show that was a constant roller coaster of emotions. I can't imagine entire episodes centered around him.

I do not have high hopes for it. I understand what some of the other posters have mentioned, and it is possible that could work, but we know that the purpose of this show is nothing but a moneygrab, rather than the actual concept.

I would love it if it is great, but I am skeptical.

 

[Rove!]

Breaking Bread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15CySbMug9w

 

[hxperson]

i see this thread routinely bumped....what the hell are you guys talking about? I guess I could read the previous posts but that sounds like a lotta work.

I'm in the camp that says the finale kind of sucked. For such an epic series, the finale didn't even come close to something like The Wire or SFU.

The Finale of The Wire was good? I thought Season 5 of the Wire as a whole was teh suck and pales in comparison to Season 5 of Breaking Bad.

That said, the rest of the Wire was as good if not better than the rest of BB, IMO.

 

[coyote5]

Breaking Bread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15CySbMug9w

Breakfast!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

i see this thread routinely bumped....what the hell are you guys talking about? I guess I could read the previous posts but that sounds like a lotta work.

I'm in the camp that says the finale kind of sucked. For such an epic series, the finale didn't even come close to something like The Wire or SFU.

The Finale of The Wire was good? I thought Season 5 of the Wire as a whole was teh suck and pales in comparison to Season 5 of Breaking Bad.

That said, the rest of the Wire was as good if not better than the rest of BB, IMO.

I wouldn't go so far to say that it sucked, but the whole thing about McNulty inventing a fake serial killer was a profoundly stupid storyline. That franchise did sort of end on a low point.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

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