I hate to add to this but what was far worse than the original post was the 10+ responses it got from people saying how bad it is. Just let it go people.
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Breaking News - Terrell Owens Rushed to local hospital (1 Viewer)
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Have a great season.Guy.We need a lot less of this here.Jfenwah said:
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
B-Deep
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Man I never thought the "Gado traded to Houston" thread would be trumped.
suicide is a criminal offense isn't it?
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
Lee Harvey Oswald and Elvis, I bet.
ceo3west
Footballguy
To quote Don Henley:
I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry
We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde who
Comes on at five
She can tell you bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
Its interesting when people die-
Give us dirty laundry
Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a
Running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry
Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybodys pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry
I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry
We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde who
Comes on at five
She can tell you bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
Its interesting when people die-
Give us dirty laundry
Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a
Running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry
Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybodys pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry
Penguin
Footballguy
I'm glad I read the last 5 pages to see if someone had responded mentiong suicidal gestures.
People, if you think suicide is as simple as:
1. If the person commits suicide, they wanted to die.
2. If the person attempts suicide, they were faking and wanted attention.
...then you're an idiot. Suicidal gestures are VERY COMMON and just the fact that someone would endanger their own life to a cry for help in itself means that they need serious help. IF this was a suicidal gesture, T.O. is still obviously a danger to himself, and clearly is in need of counseling (at least). To simply brush aside this whole incident because "there are more efficient ways to kill yourself" than what T.O. did is so ignorant it's not even remotely funny.
That is, IF this was a suicide attempt in the first place.
People, if you think suicide is as simple as:
1. If the person commits suicide, they wanted to die.
2. If the person attempts suicide, they were faking and wanted attention.
...then you're an idiot. Suicidal gestures are VERY COMMON and just the fact that someone would endanger their own life to a cry for help in itself means that they need serious help. IF this was a suicidal gesture, T.O. is still obviously a danger to himself, and clearly is in need of counseling (at least). To simply brush aside this whole incident because "there are more efficient ways to kill yourself" than what T.O. did is so ignorant it's not even remotely funny.
That is, IF this was a suicide attempt in the first place.
Drew Rosenhaus arrives
Calvin Watkins reports that T.O.'s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has arrived at Owens' condo. Rosenhaus would not comment. When someone asked if T.O. was OK, an unidentified man shook his head "yes" and closed the door.
http://cowboys.beloblog.com
Calvin Watkins reports that T.O.'s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has arrived at Owens' condo. Rosenhaus would not comment. When someone asked if T.O. was OK, an unidentified man shook his head "yes" and closed the door.
http://cowboys.beloblog.com
Hi PB,Do we know if Texas has the 72 hour rule on suicide attempts? And if so, how strictly it's enforced?
J
Very, very well done. It's too bad that people LOVE this kind of thing, it diverts from their troubles; and that seams to make them happy in many cases.I hope he didn't attempt suicide, because that would be sad. I also hope he does play football, because he is fun to watch.I also hope whatever the trouble may be, he works it out for his well being...
thanks for the info
culdeus
Footballguy
From way way way back in this thread. The rule in Texas is "no immediate harm to self" they give guidelines on what that entails, but theoretically you could be released asap.
Lone Ranger
Footballguy
Who would be stupid enough to take 30+ pills? Definitely a way to get attention or TO was too stupid thinking that taking more will get him back on the field faster. Maybe the boy is mentally unstable. Either way he will be a big BUST this year.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
NOW the real fun begins!!!!!!
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
WOW. Most ignorant post I've seen so far, and while I know that mayn have been removed and I may not have seen all of them, that's STILL saying something. Well done!
PeaceBringer
Footballguy
most states have a rule of that sort, would surprise me if texas did not.
hey joe-as an internist, i am quite familiar with having to admit and observe patients who attempt suicide. usually they are immediately placed on a 72 hour hold (or 5150 which is the legal code). anyone who is deemed a danger to themselves, a danger to others or gravely disabled (i.e. cannot provide food clothing or shelter for themselves) can be placed on one of these holds. a common misconception is that once the hold is started it cannot be revoked. in fact, any physician can terminate the 72 hold at any time once it is believed that the patient is no longer considered a danger to themselves or others or gravely disabled.
i suspect texas is no different than california (wow! i can't believe i just said that). if TO was discharged from the hospital, then the hold has been lifted and he is free to act as any citizen with with civil liberities intact.
1. Joe - I've never wanted to see someone banned before, but he deserves it.2. Can you take the possible attempted suicide off the thread title since there is no credible evidence to support this assumption.3. can we get back to talking about how this affects fantasy football (or real football), oh wait, it doesn't effect it at all, if TO's hand is ok, he'll play this week, if not he'll play against the Eagles next week.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
That is exactly right. If the police report we've seen was at all accurate, there is no way he would have been released today. None.
As a very collateral side note, threads like this are good because you can really dope out who the quality posters are.
Finally, now we will get some honest answers.
witness on smoking gun link saw him take 2, just 2. Rest is a guess based on the date of the bottle and how many were in it.I have hard time believing he only took 5 pain pills from 9/18 til last night, after getting his finger ripped open and reattached with a metal plate. I don't have a hard time thinking the male ego bragged of only taking 5 when he really took more.
Bertha
dickey moe alias
There are ways around the 72 hour "rule" even in confirmed suicide attempts. They are just not released on their own recognizance. But if you have a nurse present and promise that the person will be under observation at all times for the next few days it would usually suffice.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Thanks Joe!This kind of crap has to stop around here.
Blood Farmer
Footballguy
I would assume that they would permit a licenced psychiatrist to sign off with personal responsibility for a patient. But I do not know that for a fact in Texas.
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Ahmad Rashad
Footballguy
No, I'm not. Read the police report. The part about his state and lots of people talking came from his publicist, FWIW.
Harry Beanbag
Sausage King of Chicago
[hijack]I am not a professional athlete nor have I had a sports agent but I am puzzled by Rosenhaus. This guys seemes to be T.O.'s wet nurse, babysitter, confidant, suit case pimp, apologist and nose wiper. Do all agents in pro sports act like this guy does? And does he do this for all of his clients or just T.O. because Drew craves media attention just as much as Ownes craves it? I'm just asking.[/hijack]
mr. furley
Footballguy
this thread is certainly underperforming expectations.
Recommendation: SELL
Recommendation: SELL
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
ceo3west
Footballguy
LMAO
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
The DPD is distancing itself from the report as fast as it can. Period.
PeaceBringer
Footballguy
this is not accurate, it is very possible that if that report is accurate, that he would be released. he would have been assessed by a mental health professional and physician to not be an immediate danger to self/ not holdable, and thus discharged. Given the claims by TO, his reported affect/demeanor and such, from what I hear, even with those events as accurate I can see him being discharged. I could also see how he could be "held" going by the general "psychiatric hold" laws not knowing what they are in texas.
B-Deep
Footballguy
i wouldn't change the topicthere is some evidence it may have been an attempted suicide, although no one is sure.if we change the topic someone will just feel obligated to start a new topic with that info
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Thank you, Joe.
Joe T
Footballguy
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
Joe T
Footballguy
what time specifically? maybe I'll drive down there since its about 2 minutes away...
Red,I said this about four pages back, but it got lost. Fact is nothing supports this as a suicide attempt. if it was he would have been put on a 72 hour hold. And if this was a Vicodin overdose (which is what was reported), vicodin contains acetomenophin(tylenol). For Tylenol overdoses there is a risk of liver failure and patients are usually observed for a much longer period of time (although he supposedly had his stomach pumped and they can check Tylenol blood levels).
culdeus
Footballguy
1. Joe - I've never wanted to see someone banned before, but he deserves it. - Come here often?2. Can you take the possible attempted suicide off the thread title since there is no credible evidence to support this assumption. -
3. can we get back to talking about how this affects fantasy football (or real football), oh wait, it doesn't effect it at all, if TO's hand is ok, he'll play this week, if not he'll play against the Eagles next week. No
