Brian Westbrook (1 Viewer)

[Vintage_Football]

I've been a Westbrook fan for years,...kept him on my team through some hard times,..and i've finally been reaping the rewards. I'm in a PPR league, and i get offers all the time that make me so angry sometimes. I had him up on the block in my dynasty league this offseason, and it seemed like every trade offer i made got rejected or i'd get offers so crazy it irritated me. I won't list all the trades that i was offered, but they were honestly bad offers (not just me *over valuing him*. My side of the story is he's a proven Top-5 back, 2006 - #4 RB, 2007 #1 RB, 2008 - so far #1 RB for what its worth. It seems to me that Westbrook is getting some love for his versitile running abilities, but for fantasy worth, he's been underrated. Does anyone feel like he's being underrated (from fantasy value) in some leagues?

 

[Jon_Moore]

Seems like he's rated #2 or #3 everywhere these days.

 

[Vintage_Football]

Seems like he's rated #2 or #3 everywhere these days.

Not what he's rated as,...but his actual trade value in leagues.

 

[FUBAR]

Seems like he's rated #2 or #3 everywhere these days.

Maybe this week, but before the season most leagues had him go after AD, LT, and even Jackson. One league I'm in, where I drafted #7, he went #6 behind those 3, Addai and Gore. Nobody thought it was a surprise, I was hoping the #6 team would take Brady (he is a Patriots fan). I ended up with Portis, the #6 team is currently in 1st place.

 

[Vintage_Football]

Seems like he's rated #2 or #3 everywhere these days.

Maybe this week, but before the season most leagues had him go after AD, LT, and even Jackson. One league I'm in, where I drafted #7, he went #6 behind those 3, Addai and Gore. Nobody thought it was a surprise, I was hoping the #6 team would take Brady (he is a Patriots fan). I ended up with Portis, the #6 team is currently in 1st place.

See,..i'm in a dynasty, and I KNOW it seems , but i wouldnt want to give him up for Jackson, or LT, or Addai right now. I would give him up for ADP, and fortunetly i have Gore, but i wouldn't give him for Gore anyday. My view is that why would i want to give him up now when he's dominating over these guys? If i traded a Westbrook for Steven Jackson, which i assume just about everyone *unless you think like i do* would do, I'd suffer this year undoubtably. If it takes them 2 years to get to be a quality team to where Steven Jackson can dominate again, i just wasted this year and next year worth of quality points, and contention for the title. So it's hard for me to see why people have him ranked below the likes of ADP, Gore, Jackson, Addai. I'm in a PPR league, so maybe the arguement i'm putting forth isn't as strong for some of you in non-PPR leagues.

 

[SSOG]

Seems like he's rated #2 or #3 everywhere these days.

Maybe this week, but before the season most leagues had him go after AD, LT, and even Jackson. One league I'm in, where I drafted #7, he went #6 behind those 3, Addai and Gore. Nobody thought it was a surprise, I was hoping the #6 team would take Brady (he is a Patriots fan). I ended up with Portis, the #6 team is currently in 1st place.

See,..i'm in a dynasty, and I KNOW it seems , but i wouldnt want to give him up for Jackson, or LT, or Addai right now. I would give him up for ADP, and fortunetly i have Gore, but i wouldn't give him for Gore anyday. My view is that why would i want to give him up now when he's dominating over these guys? If i traded a Westbrook for Steven Jackson, which i assume just about everyone *unless you think like i do* would do, I'd suffer this year undoubtably. If it takes them 2 years to get to be a quality team to where Steven Jackson can dominate again, i just wasted this year and next year worth of quality points, and contention for the title. So it's hard for me to see why people have him ranked below the likes of ADP, Gore, Jackson, Addai. I'm in a PPR league, so maybe the arguement i'm putting forth isn't as strong for some of you in non-PPR leagues.

FWIW, I said last year that I'd rather have Westbrook than Tomlinson in a dynasty league. And that was non-PPR. Rest easy, you're not alone in your insanity.

 

[Browning51]

I had LT, Purple Jesus, Westy, MB3 1-4 this year, good thing I had the third pick!

 

[Tom in Albany]

Seems like he's rated #2 or #3 everywhere these days.

Not what he's rated as,...but his actual trade value in leagues.

What's the difference?

 

[Sam Quentin]

Best RB this year. LT is on the down slope and ADP is an injury waiting to happen.

I can't believe how many people dissed him here for Steven Jackson.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Seems like he's rated #2 or #3 everywhere these days.

Not what he's rated as,...but his actual trade value in leagues.

What's the difference?

A lot. A player's trade value is the most a team in your league is willing to pay to acquire that player. T.O.'s been rated on my dynasty team MUCH higher (#1-3 overall WR) than his trade value has been for over two years now. (e.g.: He's more valuable to me than any deal I've been able to put together involving him).

 

[FantasyTrader]

Best RB this year. LT is on the down slope and ADP is an injury waiting to happen.I can't believe how many people dissed him here for Steven Jackson.

I was one of herd that thought SJax was a tick above Westy in redraft this year. I had Westy at 4th in my rankings. Luckily I never had the 3rd overall pick to prove my point. I'll admit when I'm wrong. Seriously, if the draft was held today - knowing what I know - Westbrook would be my 1st overall pick in redraft.

 

[habsfan]

A lot. A player's trade value is the most a team in your league is willing to pay to acquire that player. T.O.'s been rated on my dynasty team MUCH higher (#1-3 overall WR) than his trade value has been for over two years now. (e.g.: He's more valuable to me than any deal I've been able to put together involving him).

People in my league who don't seem to "get" the concept of VBD pre-draft, suddenly seem to get it once their team is assembled and they're looking to trade. All of a sudden a guy's value seems to get a lot clearer.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Westbrook is looking like vintage Marshall Faulk (2000-2001). Like Faulk, Westbrook has put up elite yardage and receptions. With the Eagles offense looking much improved Westbrook's TD production sure looks like it is about to hit an all-time high.

 

[Kuz]

Best RB this year. LT is on the down slope and ADP is an injury waiting to happen.I can't believe how many people dissed him here for Steven Jackson.

So AP is an injury waiting to happen & Westbrook will 100% play all 16 games.. gotcha..

 

[Sylira21]

Every year (well, at least the last three) it seems like every time I play the team with Westbrook, he scores three TDs and beats me single-handed.

Like last night.

I hate him. Does he score 50 TDs a year now?

*mutter*

 

[coolice]

I wish I picked him instead of S. Jax in my team 1

 

[Browning51]

Every year (well, at least the last three) it seems like every time I play the team with Westbrook, he scores three TDs and beats me single-handed.Like last night.I hate him. Does he score 50 TDs a year now?*mutter*

Draft him, it will change your opinion, I hated him last year too.

 

[Modog814]

He's one of those players that unless you've had him on your team you don't truly realize how much he is worth. He's consistantly nicked up but not very frequently does he actually miss a chunk of time b/c of injury (9 games missed in 6+ years, 4 years of 15 games).

I think the problem with Westy (in regards to value) is that he usually will put up about 150 yards and a TD but it's split between rushing and receiving so people see his rushing line (or receiving line) and think he's good failing to put the two lines together.

He's just one of those guys that I try to get every year because I know they have greater value than perceived because I've actually owned them. (KWIII and Colston last year are other examples of guys who I feel like are greatly undervalued in trade offers)

 

[Sack-Religious]

I think it really depends on the type of league, Westbrook is owned in. The OP is in a dynasty league so his value to the OP's team is likely greater than the team looking to acquire him. They see Westbrook getting older and for whatever reason he's got the "injury prone" tag still attached to him, so other teams will likely give low-ball offers to get him. Therefore, the Westbrook owner in dynasty leagues has no reason to accept or even entertain the vast majority of offers they receive for Westbrook as it's generally not in the best interest of the franchise to do so.

In a re-draft, I think you see Westbrook's value even up a little. The owners know that they only have Westbrook for that season and adjust their offers accordingly.

That being said, after his past 2 seasons of work and his fantastic output so far this season, most Westbrook owners, even in redraft, aren't looking to trade him for the world.

 

[thatguy]

He might be a bit underrated by some in the FF community, and probably a lot by the average NFL fan, but I think most serious FF players are aware of how good (and valuable for our purposes) he is.

Easily a top 3 NFL RB right now, arguments can be made for him being the best. And as others have said, probably RB1 going forward for fantasy purposes.

 

[MDSkinner]

See,..i'm in a dynasty, and I KNOW it seems , but i wouldnt want to give him up for Jackson, or LT, or Addai right now. I would give him up for ADP, and fortunetly i have Gore, but i wouldn't give him for Gore anyday. My view is that why would i want to give him up now when he's dominating over these guys? If i traded a Westbrook for Steven Jackson, which i assume just about everyone *unless you think like i do* would do, I'd suffer this year undoubtably. If it takes them 2 years to get to be a quality team to where Steven Jackson can dominate again, i just wasted this year and next year worth of quality points, and contention for the title. So it's hard for me to see why people have him ranked below the likes of ADP, Gore, Jackson, Addai. I'm in a PPR league, so maybe the arguement i'm putting forth isn't as strong for some of you in non-PPR leagues.

I guess my question is what do you want for him. You have said the only one of the RBs you would trade for him straight up is ADP in dynasty...that makes sense to me, but if I were an ADP owner I would not consider that for a second.So what do you want for him? I don't think that Westy is undervalued even trade-wise, I just think that people that have the players that you would be willing to take for him are probably not willing to get rid of them either.

 

[Colts Win]

I think so.

I drafted him 7th in a start up PPR dynasty league this year.

 

[thatguy]

This thread is pretty enlightening - in all of my leagues it is pretty much accepted that Westbrook is up there with AP and LT.

Last season in a 2 man keeper league, where a player can be kept a max of 2 years before being put back into the player pool for the next draft, I traded my first round pick for 6 weeks of Westbrook's services (he had already been kept for 2 years and was thus not keeper eligible for any team) to a team that was out of it.

IMO that is A LOT to give up for just 6 weeks of a player's services, but IMO it was completely worth it as he is simply that valuable.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Westbrook is looking like vintage Marshall Faulk (2000-2001). Like Faulk, Westbrook has put up elite yardage and receptions. With the Eagles offense looking much improved Westbrook's TD production sure looks like it is about to hit an all-time high.

Last year, Westbrook scored his 12 TDs in seven of Philly's 16 games (missing one game and not scoring in the other eight), with six of his 12 scores coming in just two games. I don't see his scoring being as inconsistent this year, assuming he and McNabb stay healthy. He already has five TDs in two games, and it wouldn't surprise me if he hits paydirt over 20 times when the season is finished.

 

[CaptainHook]

I think this may just be because he isn't considered the main offensive weapon on the team.

It doesn't happen to Addai because he gets that "Colts RB" value.

A similar case to westbrook is MB3, where even as all signs point to him being a complete stud the main public image of that team is TO and Romo.

The rest of the top 10 RBs are all considered THE GUY on their team.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Westbrook is great.

But last night, if a stupid WR doesn't celebrate too early and another reception scores instead of being stopped on the 1 foot line, he gets 1 TD and doesn't get quite as much hype.

 

[SSOG]

Westbrook is great.But last night, if a stupid WR doesn't celebrate too early and another reception scores instead of being stopped on the 1 foot line, he gets 1 TD and doesn't get quite as much hype.

Wouldn't change a thing, though. Westbrook would still be just as much of a stud, whether he was so hyped or not.

 

[Vintage_Football]

Westbrook is great.But last night, if a stupid WR doesn't celebrate too early and another reception scores instead of being stopped on the 1 foot line, he gets 1 TD and doesn't get quite as much hype.

True, there are A LOT of *ifs* out there. Even if you take the two 1-yard TDs out, he was the #4 RB in my league this week. Luckily for Westy, you can't, so he was the overwhelming #1. I think it is really going to be interesting to see if McNabb can stay healthy all year, if so, i do believe Westy can reach 20+ TDs this year, and around 2,000 All Pur Yds.Someone asked what i would take for Westbrook. The answer would be.... RB #6-14 ish and WR #8-14ish I.E. M Lynch and Greg Jennings. I've been offered some crazy trades this offseason for him though. Cadillac and a 1st rnd rookie pick 2009. #4 Rookie pick this year. #6 rookie pick this year and Lee Evans. Some recent offers L Maroney + L Coles. J Lewis + H Ward. Not saying they're all TRASH offers, but none are of the level Westbrook should be obtained for IMHO. Offers i've put on the table: Westbrook + S Holmes for M Barber and #12 Rookie pick this year (wanted DeSean Jackson). Westbrook + M Harrison for Steven Jackson. Westbrook for L Maroney + A Boldin. Westbrook + Steve Smith (car) for Steven Jackson + Chris Chambers. All were rejected. Not saying they're all GOLDEN, but i felt like i came with legit solid offers.Anyone think i've got about the right sense of worth here for PPR Dynasty, or am **I** the one over-valueing him?

 

[thatguy]

Westbrook is great.But last night, if a stupid WR doesn't celebrate too early and another reception scores instead of being stopped on the 1 foot line, he gets 1 TD and doesn't get quite as much hype.

True, there are A LOT of *ifs* out there. Even if you take the two 1-yard TDs out, he was the #4 RB in my league this week. Luckily for Westy, you can't, so he was the overwhelming #1. I think it is really going to be interesting to see if McNabb can stay healthy all year, if so, i do believe Westy can reach 20+ TDs this year, and around 2,000 All Pur Yds.Someone asked what i would take for Westbrook. The answer would be.... RB #6-14 ish and WR #8-14ish I.E. M Lynch and Greg Jennings. I've been offered some crazy trades this offseason for him though. Cadillac and a 1st rnd rookie pick 2009. #4 Rookie pick this year. #6 rookie pick this year and Lee Evans. Some recent offers L Maroney + L Coles. J Lewis + H Ward. Not saying they're all TRASH offers, but none are of the level Westbrook should be obtained for IMHO. Offers i've put on the table: Westbrook + S Holmes for M Barber and #12 Rookie pick this year (wanted DeSean Jackson). Westbrook + M Harrison for Steven Jackson. Westbrook for L Maroney + A Boldin. Westbrook + Steve Smith (car) for Steven Jackson + Chris Chambers. All were rejected. Not saying they're all GOLDEN, but i felt like i came with legit solid offers.Anyone think i've got about the right sense of worth here for PPR Dynasty, or am **I** the one over-valueing him?

No, you are not overvaluing him. Every one of those trades seems reasonable.