Drafting is only half the fun. Talking about the picks is the other half.Grades are subjective folks. Whether Gonzo is an A- or a B is really not that big of a difference.I appreciate the efforts you went through to grade teams and make some commentary; I think thats what will really make this thread interesting for years to come actually once we all have full rosters. Everyone has their own opinions and way of rating players. Not trying to pile on your grades and hope you didnt take it as such, thanks for sharing.
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Good pick. Can take the top off a D14.30 Carolina panthers select Chris givens
Funny. I hadn't even included him in my draft list. And 2 minutes ago thought "I wonder if anyone has drafted Lacy yet..."Instinctive selects Eddie Lacy,RB
Great pick. For some reason I had him crossed off on my list.15.04 Houston selects - Davin Joseph GAnother mauling guard for the run game. Joseph was a pro bowl player in 2011, injury cut his 2012 short but it was early enough that I think he can come back ready this year. Houston is now ready to play ground and pound ball control football.OQB Matt Barkley 8.29RB Matt Forte 6.29WR T.Y. Hilton 13.04 LT Matt Kalil 2.04LG Davin Joseph 15.04C Ryan Kalil 4.29RG Chance Warmack 5.04D NT Terrence Cody 14.29LE Bjorn Werner 10.29 LOLB Damontre Moore 12.29ROLB Brian Orakpo 3.04MLB John Beason 11.04 FS Michael Griffin 9.04CB Darrelle Revis 1.29CB Dee Milliner 7.04ETA: Nate PM'ed

I can take it.Anyone going to be online and can take my player list for pick that is on deck?
Sent, thanks!I can take it.Anyone going to be online and can take my player list for pick that is on deck?
already taken at 9.1315.05 Baltimore Ravens select Kendall Wright, WRNeed another option at WR and think he will go nicely with Jon Baldwin. Both of them are extremely raw but hopefully I can snag some vets later. Offense:QB RiversRB RiceWR1 J. BaldwinWR2 K. WrightTE Fred DavisLT M. NewhouseLG GrubbsC RG RT R. Reiff3-4 DefenseLE R. McDonaldRE DT RubinROLB MLB KuechlyMLB WillisLOLB WoodleyCB1 CulliverCB2 SS ChancellorFS
Yep. I def missed the run on WRs. I think he had the most upside of remaining WRs. Ill add some older guys who realistically would round out a starting lineup.WR1 jon Baldwin might be the scariest thing in this thread![]()
Was surprised he's still here. Given how early a ton of RBs went, it almost immediately became my plan to wait with both of my teams. Lacy fits well with the Broncos, behind a mauling OLine, we'll destroy you on the right side with dives and off tackles, especially with Allen to block. We'll also be able to effectively run play actions with Allen, plus Marshall's experience in short-to-intermediate routes and Schaub's play action numbers (one of the best PA guys in the league)Instinctive selects Eddie Lacy,RB
Solid pick.Sorry about that15.09 - Dolphins select Jimmy Smith, CBOnly 24, has the potential to be a #1CB on any team. Will learn from Peanut Tillman and can develop to become a good future shutdown corner.
Haha thanks... I prefer Stephon Gilmore since he's younger, but can't believe I did not see him not get picked... oh well!Solid pick.Sorry about that15.09 - Dolphins select Jimmy Smith, CBOnly 24, has the potential to be a #1CB on any team. Will learn from Peanut Tillman and can develop to become a good future shutdown corner.
At this point, about as good a pick as we'll see. I do wonder about the bolded though, can't help but think he benefits immensely from the guy on the opposite side.15.11 Cleveland Browns select Brian Robison, DE
Not a flashy pick, but this guy knows how to get to the QB. Top 10 in QB hurries and 8+ sacks the last two seasons.
Offense
4.22 QB Geno Smith
3.11 HB C.J. Spiller
13.11 FB Marcel Reece
1.22 WR A.J. Green
2.11 WR Demaryius Thomas
14.22 TE Tony Gonzalez
5.11 LT William Beatty
12.22 LG Rob Sims
8.22 OC John Sullivan
11.11 RG Louis Vasquez
7.11 RT Gosder Cherilus
Defense
15.11 DE Brian Robison
10.22 CB Derek Cox
6.22 S Reshad Jones
9.11 S Troy Polamalu
I think that this guy can have a VERY nice few seasons to close out his career if he is not counted upon to be "the guy" like he has been in San Diego for the past few seasons.Big difference from that crap he has to work with there to my team which has Vincent Jackson (glad to see you again Antonio) and Justin Hunter at my wideout spots. Plus Chris Johnson in the backfield is better than any RB he has worked with since LaDanian was in his prime.15.06 Colts (gandalas) select Antonio Gates, TE via PMed list
The only issue I'd have with this pick is that your offensive line is going to need help and Gates can't really help with blocking. I'm sure he'd be really great for short passes though since VJax/Hunter seem to be more suited for the deep routes and Romo won't have much time to throw.I think that this guy can have a VERY nice few seasons to close out his career if he is not counted upon to be "the guy" like he has been in San Diego for the past few seasons.Big difference from that crap he has to work with there to my team which has Vincent Jackson (glad to see you again Antonio) and Justin Hunter at my wideout spots. Plus Chris Johnson in the backfield is better than any RB he has worked with since LaDanian was in his prime.15.06 Colts (gandalas) select Antonio Gates, TE via PMed list
Both of my tackles will be fine, so Gates would not be able to help the Guards/Center block anyway.The only issue I'd have with this pick is that your offensive line is going to need help and Gates can't really help with blocking. I'm sure he'd be really great for short passes though since VJax/Hunter seem to be more suited for the deep routes and Romo won't have much time to throw.I think that this guy can have a VERY nice few seasons to close out his career if he is not counted upon to be "the guy" like he has been in San Diego for the past few seasons.Big difference from that crap he has to work with there to my team which has Vincent Jackson (glad to see you again Antonio) and Justin Hunter at my wideout spots. Plus Chris Johnson in the backfield is better than any RB he has worked with since LaDanian was in his prime.15.06 Colts (gandalas) select Antonio Gates, TE via PMed list

Has Robert Turner ever played center? I'm not being sracastic here as I really am not sure. For the Jets he was listed as an OG but really only saw playing time at TE - basically as an extra offensive lineman on short yardage and clock killing formations.And on the topic of dominant offenses, I will match my Niners offense up against anyone...QB: BreesRB: Trent RichardsonWR: Victor CruzWR: Marques ColstonLT: Eric FisherLG: C: Robert TurnerRG: Brandon MooreRT: David Stewart
My linkHas Robert Turner ever played center? I'm not being sracastic here as I really am not sure. For the Jets he was listed as an OG but really only saw playing time at TE - basically as an extra offensive lineman on short yardage and clock killing formations.And on the topic of dominant offenses, I will match my Niners offense up against anyone...
QB: Brees
RB: Trent Richardson
WR: Victor Cruz
WR: Marques Colston
LT: Eric Fisher
LG:
C: Robert Turner
RG: Brandon Moore
RT: David Stewart
Pass Block
45/50
Robert Turner’s (6'4", 308 pounds, six seasons) strength is in his versatility. The center/guard played major minutes for St. Louis in 2012 at both positions. Playing both guard and center, Turner showed good presence in his pass sets and has a quick get-off from his stance. He’s patient, which allows him to pick his spots and not overextend to defenders.
Run Block
31/50
Turner’s patience in the pass game oftentimes shows up in the run game, and that’s not a positive. He has a bad habit of standing up out of his stance, which makes gaining leverage in the run game tricky. If he can gain leverage, Turner can be very good at moving the pile upfield. Otherwise, he’s limited to angle blocking and sealing off for backside cuts.
Overall
76/100
Turner has promise as a center or guard in the Rams’ future based on a very strong 2012. If he can get his pad level down in the run game and continue his excellent pass-blocking trends, Turner will be moving up our list next spring.
I'm obviously not as high on Gaither as you are. Neither are his teammates according to this article: http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/jan/04/acee-jared-gaither-return/You can't count on him to even be out there since he's only started 20 games in the last 4 years.Both of my tackles will be fine, so Gates would not be able to help the Guards/Center block anyway.![]()
I'd disagree with this (at Wayne's current age, not if he was in his prime), but then again I've long thought that Bowe was one of the more over-rated WRs in the league and I think Nelson is probably one of the more under-rated WRs in the league.Bowe, Garcon, and Wayne are better than Nelson, James Jones, and Cobb.
He started nine games at center in 2012.Has Robert Turner ever played center? I'm not being sracastic here as I really am not sure. For the Jets he was listed as an OG but really only saw playing time at TE - basically as an extra offensive lineman on short yardage and clock killing formations.
:grumble: he's been on my short list for a long time now, kept passing on him expecting him to fall further because he's not a starter. Really liked the idea of setting him up with Champ Bailey and Xavier Rhodes this round.Bucs 15.13: ADAM JONES, CBStill talented. Character is overrated.
'ExaltedOne said:RBM is was just here. He said he doesn't want PMs.
I'll email AA
I'm next.Oops i must've looked at the list wrong. sorry bout that'ExaltedOne said:RBM is was just here. He said he doesn't want PMs.
I'll email AAI'm next.
Yeah I considered him but he's really best in the slot.:grumble: he's been on my short list for a long time now, kept passing on him expecting him to fall further because he's not a starter. Really liked the idea of setting him up with Champ Bailey and Xavier Rhodes this round.Bucs 15.13: ADAM JONES, CBStill talented. Character is overrated.