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CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
Steve Young had a higher completion percentage, higher yards per attempt, and a better INT% than Troy Aikman. Joe Montana had a higher completion percentage, higher yards per attempt, and a better INT% than Troy Aikman. I very quickly found two quarterbacks who were much more accurate than him that played during his era. I'm sure there are more. It's one of the few things in this exercise we could look at somewhat objectively. You're entitled to your opinion that if you were building the perfect QB Troy Aikman's accuracy is what you'd want. You're just wrong.Definitely don’t think I said anything close to that. I said two guys from his era were clearly more accurate.
You chose Aikman as your most accurate QB. I just think that’s a clearly biased take, which is fine.
I also saw you post that Emmitt was a better RB than Barry, so you have a track record.
Wait, so that’s not what you said but then you go on to say two guys “were clearly more accurate”, citing their completion percentage as evidence? Do you understand how that is contradictory?
I never said Emmitt was better than Barry. I said that Emmitt was a more compete back than Barry. Choosing between Emmitt/Barry/Walter/Campbell/etc is splitting hairs.
Cherry picking Teddy Bridgewater and Jimmy Garoppolo is irrelevant and had nothing to do with the point I was making.
What you stat nerds always seem to forget is it isn’t like they’re playing the exact same teams under the exact same conditions under the exact same offensive scheme along side the exact same players.
Steve Young played in the west coast offense consisting of short passes and dump offs to the best receiver to have ever played the game in mostly sunny conditions.
Aikman played on the east coast in a run first offense.
NONE of what either of us are talking about defines how accurate a quarterback is.
I didn’t cherry pick anything, most of the guys in the top 20 completion percentage, I wouldn’t consider to be more accurate than Troy Aikman, Joe Montana, or Bart Starr.
IMHO Troy Aikman put the ball exactly where it needed to be with pin point precision.
You disagree and that’s ok. I would never say anything suggesting that “your opinion is wrong”.
It’s a thread asking peoples opinions, wtf would you say that? Weird take.
come on this has to be fishing now. You can point at the weather for the last few weeks of the season but comparing receivers is silly when Aikman had just as great of a wr corp.
Bogart
Footballguy
I completely forgot I was going to put him as Toughness and Roger as Mobility.
Bogart
Footballguy
Yeah, but was thinking of their play while in Dallas. Bledsoe might have a say in arm strength, but not by the time he was in Dallas. Nothing but wounded ducks by then.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Steve Young had a higher completion percentage, higher yards per attempt, and a better INT% than Troy Aikman. Joe Montana had a higher completion percentage, higher yards per attempt, and a better INT% than Troy Aikman. I very quickly found two quarterbacks who were much more accurate than him that played during his era. I'm sure there are more. It's one of the few things in this exercise we could look at somewhat objectively. You're entitled to your opinion that if you were building the perfect QB Troy Aikman's accuracy is what you'd want. You're just wrong.Definitely don’t think I said anything close to that. I said two guys from his era were clearly more accurate.
You chose Aikman as your most accurate QB. I just think that’s a clearly biased take, which is fine.
I also saw you post that Emmitt was a better RB than Barry, so you have a track record.
Wait, so that’s not what you said but then you go on to say two guys “were clearly more accurate”, citing their completion percentage as evidence? Do you understand how that is contradictory?
I never said Emmitt was better than Barry. I said that Emmitt was a more compete back than Barry. Choosing between Emmitt/Barry/Walter/Campbell/etc is splitting hairs.
Cherry picking Teddy Bridgewater and Jimmy Garoppolo is irrelevant and had nothing to do with the point I was making.
What you stat nerds always seem to forget is it isn’t like they’re playing the exact same teams under the exact same conditions under the exact same offensive scheme along side the exact same players.
Steve Young played in the west coast offense consisting of short passes and dump offs to the best receiver to have ever played the game in mostly sunny conditions.
Aikman played on the east coast in a run first offense.
NONE of what either of us are talking about defines how accurate a quarterback is.
I didn’t cherry pick anything, most of the guys in the top 20 completion percentage, I wouldn’t consider to be more accurate than Troy Aikman, Joe Montana, or Bart Starr.
IMHO Troy Aikman put the ball exactly where it needed to be with pin point precision.
You disagree and that’s ok. I would never say anything suggesting that “your opinion is wrong”.
It’s a thread asking peoples opinions, wtf would you say that? Weird take.
You got me. I’m fishing because out of all the players mentioned you guys have a problem with the one I chose for accuracy. I didn’t say he was the best, I just said that he threw a very accurate football.
Two players that were compared to him have a whopping 2-3% difference in their completion percentage were “clearly more accurate”. Never mind both players mentioned played in the WCO which is all about short high percentage passes.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
One of the few guys who might break the all-white monopoly on "highest IQ" while not threatening the near-all-black monopoly on "mobility."
Zow
Footballguy
FWIW I thought about him in terms of accuracy. Also strongly considered Kurt Warner (accuracy, toughness), Mike Vick (mobility), and Marino (arm strength) in my attributes.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I have no problem with Favre earning accolades for his toughness - I think if we knew the truth about pain pills we would be aghast at how blatant overuse of them were back when he played by many of the players, not just him. And I also think he's a dirtball of the highest order. But dude was tougher than snot.
Let's also not forget that Philip Rivers never missed a game. Played with a torn ACL in the playoffs. 240 straight starts. No drug use that we know of. That man was also incredibly durable and tough.
Let's also not forget that Philip Rivers never missed a game. Played with a torn ACL in the playoffs. 240 straight starts. No drug use that we know of. That man was also incredibly durable and tough.
Zow
Footballguy
Agreed. Other honorable mentions:
Brees - accuracy
Tarkenton - mobility
Namath - competitiveness
Flutie - competitiveness/IQ
Montana - competitiveness
Jeff George - arm strength
Cunningham - mobility/arm strength
General Malaise
Footballguy
Pat Mahomes threw an NFL ball 83 yards. My god.
I threw my sons' peewee ball 38 yards and my arm tingled for a week afterwards.
I threw my sons' peewee ball 38 yards and my arm tingled for a week afterwards.
(yes I know this may be a different girth)
