I figure Stacy is bound to get more work, not less with Bradford out, but who knows?
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Buy Low/Sell High Thread (1 Viewer)
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FUBAR
Footballguy
You put him as the top QB in dynasty? That's fine, but it doesn't make him a buy-low. I suppose you could pay less than the #1 QB would usually go for, but there are better buys out there.
FWIW, I'd take Luck, RG3, and probably Stafford and Wilson before Rodgers but nobody will argue with what Rodgers has done.
What are people's feelings about Rice at this point?
I've got him, and I've always like him, but I'm thinking about shopping him for a QB (leaning Romo) now that I'm devastated (cut Krap, cut Luck (stupid move), Foles down, Hoyer down, Cutler down).
I feel like he COULD always turn it around, but nothing has looked great yet.
I've got him, and I've always like him, but I'm thinking about shopping him for a QB (leaning Romo) now that I'm devastated (cut Krap, cut Luck (stupid move), Foles down, Hoyer down, Cutler down).
I feel like he COULD always turn it around, but nothing has looked great yet.
FF Wiseguy
Footballguy
Just traded him away last week, which hurt, as he is a sentimental favorite of mine. I had just traded for him a few weeks prior, losing Justin Blackmon at a sweet keeper price in the process.
Even as his YPC has gone down over the last couple years, it's been the receptions that have kept him in his mid to low RB1 spot. But that just isn't the case this year. He's averaged 4 targets per game, after getting 11 in week 1.
For me, the name brand value far outweighed the production, and the combined factors of age, health, Pierce, and Baltimore's system made me okay with cutting bait.
FF Wiseguy
Footballguy
Are people trying to sell high on Peyton Manning? I know the schedule stays pretty easy for him, but the combination of cold weather and natural regression makes me think now (or maybe after the WAS game) is the best time to get max value for him.
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Yea, that's how I was feeling as well, but he's not getting the targets I wanted.
I'm looking at Rivers (who I traded early >_<
, RG3, Vick, Romo level QBs and maybe a lower RB/WR in a deal myself. What'd you manage to get?I think selling high on Peyton COULD be a good move, but you'd have to have faith in your QB2 or get a lot in the deal IMO.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
There are some big time names out there with struggles, injuries and byes right now - I will just throw some possible buy lows out there, no judgments included:
ADP
Foster
Rice
Rivers
Lesser name but maybe really more of a traditional "buy low", ie someone off most people's radar who could take a step up soon: Fleener
ADP
Foster
Rice
Rivers
Lesser name but maybe really more of a traditional "buy low", ie someone off most people's radar who could take a step up soon: Fleener
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tdhartis
Footballguy
I really like the three bolded, and to a slightly lesser extent AP. As for Rice, if it wasn't for his name value I don't think he would even draw a "buy low" tag, and I haven't seen anything to indicate he's going to turn it around. AP is AP and he can single handedly put the team on his shoulders and get points, where Rice doesn't have that kind of ability and the situation is very important.
I bought low on Foster (hopefully) this week after the injury, and think he's a good target for those that can afford the possibility of him not playing for 2-3 weeks. I shipped off Mathews/Stacy/Harvin for him in a PPR, and think I might have slightly overpaid.
Fleener should see a nice uptick if he can start to actually catch the ball, and he should help to fill the security blanket role and the shorter routes Wayne commonly ran to move the chains. He can be found on the WW in some leagues, and think he is worth spending a priority on this late in the season, and targeting in a trade offer to an owner that probably has another viable option he may value more.
The main reason I like Rivers is because of his great matchups the first two weeks of most people's playoffs (14-15.) He has the NYG followed by DEN, who have terrible pass defenses and will likely be shootouts. Week 16 he has Oakland, which isn't too threatening either.
Good list.
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
buy low
Chris Johnson
CJ Spiller - his December schedule is as easy as it gets for a RB - Falcons, Bucs, Jags, Dolphins, Pats. Fred Jackson is due to pull up lame with his typical mid-season injury, anyways..
Colston - if you can get him 'low' ..he's even a buy-high in my book..
J. Kerley
Sell High
M. Bennett
Zac Stacy
Chris Johnson
CJ Spiller - his December schedule is as easy as it gets for a RB - Falcons, Bucs, Jags, Dolphins, Pats. Fred Jackson is due to pull up lame with his typical mid-season injury, anyways..
Colston - if you can get him 'low' ..he's even a buy-high in my book..
J. Kerley
Sell High
M. Bennett
Zac Stacy
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
IMO you're hugely overvaluing age ranking any of those guys over Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers is 29 -- he's not anywhere remotely close to the end of the road considering the way the league protects QBs today. It's highly likely that he follows the career path of other first ballot HOF QBs like Favre, Manning, Brady, and Brees and is an elite fantasy asset into his mid-30s and beyond.
The young guys look good, no doubt. But the step from good --> HOF level is a huge one. And the step to elite FF QB is just as huge, as it requires not only a great player, but a great system and supporting cast as well. If Luck, etc settle in as 4000 / 30 ballpark Pro Bowl QBs in balanced offenses, the value you pick up on the back end will not remotely compare to the crushing advantage you're giving up in the present. It's a huge bet against the odds, albeit one that a ton of dynasty players mistakenly make all the time -- taking advantage of this is a great way to pick up huge value.
I do agree that Rodgers is probably not a true "buy low," but if a youth crazy guy wants to sell him straight up for Russell Wilson you should pull the trigger on that all freaking day.
That's interesting to me. I recently offered Cameron to the Finely owner for Decker and he scoffed at it. And decided to move forward with cumberland in a 10 team keeper league. For some reason nobody in the league besides me values Cameron.
FF Wiseguy
Footballguy
Yeah, it's pretty tough to get proper value for Cameron right now in redraft. Despite the TD, there is just no faith that with Weeden at QB and Gordon competing for targets that Cameron can maintain his pace from the first few weeks. I've tested the market, and couldn't get anyone to part with anything close to a high WR2 or RB2.
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jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
cameron is hard to gauge now especially since I believe Jason campbell is slated to start sunday. I traded cameron away while his value was still high. I got lucky and traded david wilson away for pierre garcon--so I probably traded him at a pretty good time. If cameron has a big game this week with campbell as qb--I do think there will be a window to sell him high one more time--so I'm thinking he's a wait and see for the moment.
MattFancy
Footballguy
As a Skins fan, I've seen plenty of Jason Campbell over the years. Him starting this week should be great for Cameron. Campbell loved checking down to Cooley during his time in Washington. People keep worrying about Cameron and he keeps producing. He's really only had 1 bad game this year.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I'm trying to move Cameron for either Garcon or Sproles in redraft (non-PPR) to two TE needy teams. One has Gates on BYE and the other has been starting Brandon Myers.
Garcon and Sproles haven't really thrived so far in our scoring system, but I think they both have some great upside to buy into.
Edit: For what it's worth to anyone, my Cameron for Garcon trade was pretty quickly accepted. Was kind of hoping I'd get the sproles end of the deal, but I still think Garcon brings WR2 value.
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dboysrock94
Footballguy
Starting to target all bears players beginning this week, most people don't realize cutler will almost for sure be back by week 11 to 12 if your sitting pretty in your league right now there good buy lows. Also feel like selling McCoy if I can flip him Ina. 2 for 1 for Peterson and something for him maybe try and clip Charles for a 2 for 1. McCoy is a supreme talent but is not nearly as impactful with Vick gone and it's looking like it could be awhile till he is back.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
After that Denver performance is Griffin now a buy low?
I sense some digusted owners out there.
I sense some digusted owners out there.
tdhartis
Footballguy
I think he's a good buy low. I'd also add Cutler to the list for those that can afford to hold him a couple more weeks.
blake
Footballguy
I was also eyeing Cutler. I'm hoping that no one in my league thinks the same way. I think Cutler would be a great stash.
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dboysrock94
Footballguy
I'm not so sure on griffin, he has really only has one great game out of 7. Not saying he isn't great, I just picked him up for Brady straight across haha. But I watched the whole game in Sunday, he was really nervous back there, constantly over threw his wrs. I hate to make comparisons this early but Vince young?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Agree. I bought him for a late 1st and thought it was a) worth the risk with his schedule and b) kept him off someone else's roster. The last thing I want to do is face him on someone else's team week 16 against the Jags.
dboysrock94
Footballguy
I think that gronk is a decent buy low, hopefully Brady can be back in the swing of things shortly and coming out of there bye week 10 they get things figured out. He had a crappy line this weekend but had a td called back on penalty. Him and graham give you a huge advantage and I think anyone that has them will be a contender
tdhartis
Footballguy
Just speculation from the Houston Chronicle. It's based solely on the ribs, so not on anything you're missing.
mere blitzianity
Footballguy
In a dynasty auction league, I just sold him for much more $$ than anticipated. The AJ Green owner wanted the hookup
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I think Brady & Co. are pretty close to putting it together. I'm buying him from some really pissed off owners.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Recently bought T-Rich low.
Recently sold J Nelson high.
Recently sold J Nelson high.
blake
Footballguy
Yes, I'd probably agree with that. I'm continually stunned that FBG's ranks Moreno so high in their Top 200.
Agreed about Andre Johnson, for sure. Not that I disagree about Jones or Gronk, just that I'm targeting Johnson as well in my league.
smapdi
Footballguy
I wouldn't consider moving Cameron myself. He's the current #2 TE in my PPR league. Unless you have Jimmy Graham, I really don't see why you would want to move that type of production. TE is a great position to have a top tier guy because so few teams have that type of production. Cameron gives you a 5 point edge week to week over your opponent.
I also don't think you'll be able to get anywhere close to proper value for him. He just emerged this season & your "average" (non Footballguys) player really isn't too familiar with him. Just the other day, some owner offered me this ridiculous trade of:
SG traded T.Y. Hilton, Ind WR to TD's
SG traded Maurice Jones-Drew, Jac RB to TD's
SG traded Jordan Cameron, Cle TE to TD's
SG traded Dez Bryant, Dal WR to TD's [DEAL-BREAKER]
FOR
TD's traded DeAndre Hopkins, Hou WR to SG
TD's traded Bryce Brown, Phi RB to SG
TD's traded LeSean McCoy, Phi RB to SG
TD's traded Coby Fleener, Ind TE to SG
This is a PPR league and TD's pretty much treated Cameron like a throw in. I didn't know whether to laugh or be offended with how bad that trade offer was
It sucks Hoyer went down but now that Campbell is in there, he's in a much better spot then when Weeden was throwing him the ball. Cameron has had one crappy week- against Buffalo when he went 3 for 36, Hoyer went down on the first drive in that game & Weeden had to come in cold and it showed. A Redskin's fan pointed out above that Campbell loves his TE (ala Cooley) so I'm feeling good about Cameron in the 2nd half.
He has Gordon to stretch the field and pull those safeties off; should have plenty of room to operate. They have no running game with TRich in Indy. I would really need to be blown away to trade Cameron at this point.
dboysrock94
Footballguy
Not so sure selling jordy high was a great idea there schedule gets easy. And he is much more talented than people give credit doesn't hurt he is playing with the best qb in the game
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Also depends what he got/gave up in both cases.
Moreno...................I think anytime you can get a good amount for him, do it. Right now is a great time.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I think if there is ever a time to make a move for Bowe--it's now. He's starting to show signs of life--but not enough to command any real major value. The Chiefs have a bye week coming up--so Bowe owners might be scrambling to adjust their rosters for this--so I'd say to shoot some low ball offers. The Chiefs have 2 matchups versus denver coming up--and I believe one against San Diego--all of which are pretty high scoring teams. This could bode very well for Bowe. Don't get me wrong---I'm not saying to give up anything of solid value for him---as it only makes sense to buy him on the cheap . It could end up being a very low risk but high reward move for some savvy owners.
FF Wiseguy
Footballguy
Cruz, Gordon, Keenan Allen (people still might not believe), V-Jax, Decker, Roddy White. I also think Nelson is a good trade target right now. Owner may be in a panic and take a low offer. At worst, Jordy still has WR2 value. At best, Rodgers comes back sooner than expected and you have an elite WR for the fantasy playoffs.
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How do you guys feel about Foster at the moment?
Was looking at offering Matt Ryan to the Rodgers owner, and was thinking about something like Ryan + Rice for Marshall + Foster (or Le'Veon Bell) to start and work from there. I don't think he'd be too low on Rice, and he has Vick as a backup QB. I haven't been able to watch Foster as much as I like, but I know he pulled up gimp early this week.
I've got Shady and Lacy already, so the loss of Rice wouldn't be huge, especially with him disappointing me.
Was looking at offering Matt Ryan to the Rodgers owner, and was thinking about something like Ryan + Rice for Marshall + Foster (or Le'Veon Bell) to start and work from there. I don't think he'd be too low on Rice, and he has Vick as a backup QB. I haven't been able to watch Foster as much as I like, but I know he pulled up gimp early this week.
I've got Shady and Lacy already, so the loss of Rice wouldn't be huge, especially with him disappointing me.
FF Wiseguy
Footballguy
I'm targetting Foster in one league, but that is based on league considerations. My team is deep but middle of the road, and there is one team that is absolutely dominating everyone. In order to have a chance, I have to take some risks, and I can move some good bench pieces to get him. I think they'll be careful with him this time, and let him sit 2-3 weeks to get fully healthy. I hope to have him for the fantasy playoffs, and feel he was starting to gain some momentum before the injuries slowed him down again.
My team is interesting depth and playoff wise, but if he blows up he'd obviously be better than Rice as a flex (or even Lacy as a RB2). I felt that way too before the injury, but now I'm a bit worried.
I bought low, traded Almo, JT, and Allen for DT and Foster. All bench players except Allen but dt replaced him. Risky but I still have the depth if foster can't go.
Ted Mullins
Footballguy
Not necessarily "low", but I could see Cecil Shorts going cheaper than he probably should considering he has been solid but not great. I think his targets will increase with Blackmon out. Garcon and Torrey Smith also strike me as guys who have been good but should theoretically be getting more TDs so their owners could be frustrated. If you're in good shape record wise, you could also target a good receiver on bye this week from a team that needs to win.
JustinHawkins
Footballguy
Anyone selling T. Rich? Buying him? What kind of trades are you seeing in your dynasty leagues?
